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Levi's Denim, Campaigns Drive Higher Sales
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00:00
How is the consumer doing?
00:03
Well, thanks for having me, Carol and Bailey.
00:05
It's great to be here again.
00:08
You know, we had a real strong quarter,
00:10
four consecutive quarters of high single-digit growth
00:13
and record gross margins,
00:16
as well as the fact that we were able to raise up full-year guidance,
00:20
as well as gross margin and EPS expectations.
00:25
Overall, as a company, we're a stronger
00:28
and a higher-performing company defined by accelerated growth,
00:33
expanding margins, and higher return on invested capital.
00:36
To your question about the consumer,
00:38
the consumer is largely being resilient.
00:42
You know, our products are really well segmented.
00:45
You know, we have BlueTab,
00:47
which is our premium high-pinnacle product,
00:50
and that's doing well.
00:52
We've introduced that in the U.S.
00:54
So far, so good.
00:55
We have a RedTab product that is basically marketed to consumers
01:00
who earn between $100,000 and over,
01:04
and that's, you know, based on our results, really done well.
01:06
And then we have, you know, a signature product sold through Walmart
01:11
that, again, had a banner quarter,
01:13
and that's for, you know, lower-income consumers.
01:16
So consumer strength is really strong.
01:19
That's where we were able to raise the full-year guidance,
01:21
and our product pipeline hasn't been stronger.
01:23
Now, if you go outside the U.S.,
01:26
an international business was up in the high single digit,
01:29
and so Asia had a strong quarter, consumer strong.
01:33
Europe had a decent quarter, consumer in a better place,
01:36
and so is Latin America.
01:38
Well, I'm just going to lay it out for you.
01:39
I think I bought my first pair of Levi's in a long time,
01:42
just a couple of months ago.
01:43
And my daughter, who's 22, so much younger than me,
01:46
has been buying Levi's for a while.
01:47
So, Bailey, I mean, they're back.
01:49
I go into the store in downtown in the village, and, yeah, it's packed.
01:54
Well, you get a partnership with Beyonce,
01:56
all the marketing you guys are spending in terms of targeting both young and older generations.
02:00
But, Harmeet, I want to ask about tariffs.
02:03
So Levi expects tariffs from China about 30 percent,
02:07
but increased expectations to 20 percent from the rest of the world.
02:10
Where are you sourcing your jeans materials?
02:12
Is it more – are you more exposed to that doubling in terms of
02:17
are you getting materials from Vietnam in place of China?
02:21
Yeah, so overall, we're taking a holistic approach
02:24
as we are able to offset the tariff impact.
02:29
You know, as you think about this here,
02:30
we raised guidance in the top line and the bottom line and gross margin.
02:34
So, you know, we've been able to withstand that.
02:36
To your specific question, Bailey,
02:38
we source about 1 percent we import into the U.S. from China,
02:45
a little over a percent from India.
02:47
Most of – and Vietnam is in the mid to high single digits.
02:52
So most of our imports are from the Southeast Asian countries.
02:55
Think Bangladesh, think Pakistan, and the rest of Asia.
03:02
The way we think about our supply chain, it's fairly well diversified.
03:07
We import from about 20 countries into the U.S., 60 percent of our businesses outside the U.S.
03:13
And so we're well positioned to mitigate and offset tariffs.
03:18
And the way we're thinking about the holistic approach,
03:21
given that volume is driving a big piece of our, you know, revenue momentum,
03:27
and we have tenured vendor relationships, we're working with our vendors,
03:33
we're looking at different cost efficiencies across our organization,
03:37
as well as, you know, being very thoughtful about pricing.
03:41
So let me just ask you, though, you guys did – you know, you mentioned you raised your full-year outlook.
03:46
You did warn that tariffs are starting to bite.
03:50
Profitability, too, measured by gross margins, improved.
03:52
So these are the good stuff, but, again, that tariffs are starting to bite.
03:56
Harmeet, can you tell us what that means, the bite of tariffs?
04:01
When, when, how much?
04:04
You know, any color around that.
04:06
Sure.
04:07
So, you know, overall, you know, we were able to raise top-line and bottom-line guidance,
04:12
despite absorbing tariffs.
04:13
And so we are able to mitigate it.
04:16
To the question about tariffs, you know, tariffs were introduced on Liberation Day.
04:23
We normally buy our products, you know, six months in advance.
04:26
And so, you know, we are working through, you know, our efforts.
04:32
And we've got different levers to kind of position it.
04:36
So you take quarter three, the quarter we just reported.
04:39
Gross margins are record.
04:41
So we're able to offset tariffs because we've got other things working for us.
04:45
You know, as we grow our women's business, our direct-to-consumer business,
04:49
and international, all of which are accretive to gross margins
04:54
and allow us to, you know, mitigate and offset some of the tariff exposure.
05:00
Quarter four, we did guide gross margins to be slightly down versus a year ago.
05:05
And had it not been for tariffs, you know, we would have grown gross margins.
05:09
But overall, as we think about the year, we'll report, again, another year of record gross margin.
05:15
So we're working on levers for 2026.
05:18
The good news is we'll end the year stronger.
05:21
And we believe we're well-positioned to have another strong year in 2026.
05:27
And, Carol, we've talked with a good friend, Peter Atwater, for quite some time about that K-shaped recovery
05:31
where people who are well-off are doing much better than those really in the bottom quintile.
05:37
Harmeet, when you look at your goods, when you look at the ability to raise prices from the impact of tariffs,
05:43
which products are you able to more easily raise prices where you aren't going to see consumers push away?
05:48
And how are you thinking about that strategy as it relates to, say, the genes that you do sell through a Walmart
05:54
where you don't have that gross margin going direct to consumer?
05:56
And you do have likely, at least when we look at the data, a consumer who's feeling the pinch of inflation, broadly speaking.
06:03
Yeah. And so the first thing, Bailey, to your question, is our products are well-segmented
06:09
depending on the income profile of different consumers.
06:13
I talk blue tab, red tab, and Signature.
06:17
Signature is what's sold into the lower-income consumer.
06:22
We've been very thoughtful about pricing.
06:24
We're leading with product innovation rather than price.
06:27
And so we're doing what we can to maintain our price point.
06:31
It was evident in quarter three.
06:33
Signature, for example, I think is up in the low double digits for the year.
06:36
As we think about our other products, the good news for us is our product pipeline has never been stronger.
06:45
We're leading with loose and baggy while at the same time selling a lot of slim and skinny, both for him and her.
06:53
You know, we've got wonderful, you know, waist-up products.
06:57
Think trucker jackets, think linen shirts, et cetera, et cetera.
07:01
And so as a company, we're making this pivot to be more of a denim lifestyle retailer going forward.
07:10
Our past was all about denim.
07:12
Our future is going to be about denim lifestyle.
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