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00:00does this mean this is the list numbers haven't changed unlike the hurricane uh there the five
00:06names had been leaked before and so this is something that the markets have been absorbing
00:10for a couple of weeks so i don't think it's going to have a whole lot of impact on people's thinking
00:15at the moment until we get much closer uh messen said he's going to hold another round of interviews
00:21and that may lead to some further leaks about who he likes or doesn't like and he suggested that
00:26after thanksgiving he would send a couple of names to the president to choose from there's a lot of
00:33thought that the president already knows who he wants he's just not telling us so uh doesn't look
00:38like it'll take too long for him to settle on someone and the president said on air force one
00:42on his way to asia that he expected to make a decision in december so uh of the five the two
00:49kevins uh and uh chris waller mickey bowman and rick reader um one of those is likely the next
00:56either the most powerful person in the world or the second most powerful person in the world depending
01:01on who you're talking to i mike a lot to ask when it comes to these individuals and these names all
01:07familiar to us and to the bloomberg audience of course but in terms of policy are there big policy
01:12differences between them and the way they think about the role of the federal reserve there's uh
01:18probably less division um among them in terms of uh whether they fight inflation hard uh most of them
01:26are hawkish uh the biggest difference is in other ways that the fed operates there's a a couple of them
01:34uh including kevin warsh um and mickey bowman who've suggested we get rid of the system that they use
01:41now which is called the floor system go back to the corridor system which is where the fed intervenes
01:47on a daily basis to move the uh the the benchmark rate around like we used to have in uh until
01:54basically uh 2000 or early 2000s during the financial crisis when they changed to this new system
02:00which is what most of the world uses but there are people who would like to make that change which would
02:04be a massive change on wall street because the whole infrastructure has grown up around it and i can
02:09see a lot of people on repo desks going over my dead body you'll change it um but uh that and then
02:17there are there's disagreements among how um how broad the fed's power should be in terms of uh lending
02:24to financial institutions and in terms of doing things like qe uh going forward you know what's
02:31interesting is fed decisions obviously influenced a lot by the fed chair no doubt about it we've talked
02:37with you before about the voices that really count at the u.s central bank having said that it is a
02:42group so um i don't know are we silly to think okay there will be still discussions around the table
02:49and still a lot of fed governors that have been there for years oh sure that's exactly what you'll get at
02:56least for a number of years while most of the current cast is on board uh at the fed um you will
03:05maybe get somebody who wants to cut rates more quickly but they'll get pushback from from people
03:12and a lot of this is just depends on the diplomatic skills of the chair the whole thing with the chair
03:19is that they talk to everybody so they have a pretty good idea where everybody sits as they go into
03:24the room and the theory is you try to pull people towards the most acceptable decision and get as much
03:32consensus as you can there's always going to be sometimes sometimes some dissents but try to get
03:37as much people many people on board as you can so sometimes the chair comes in with a absolute vision
03:43of what needs to be done and sometimes they come in with a divided fed like we have now and the chair
03:48is going to kind of reflect back the the plurality or majority view and try to get people into one corner
03:55or another does the process typically play out like this are the names floated months ahead
04:01no this has been very unusual we've not had anything like it in my memory which goes back to
04:07when alan greenspan was selected uh and i know that what happened a couple of fed chair before that
04:14there's never been sort of a beauty contest like this uh there were some names leaked early in terms of
04:22who would uh replace ben bernanke bernanke came from the bush staff and as cea chair and he had already
04:29been on the fed so people were kind of expecting him but uh with janet yellen um she was chosen
04:36because she was sort of a very obvious candidate for a democratic president to appoint but then when
04:42it came time to donald trump he decided she was too short and jay powell looked like a central banker and
04:48so he said that's what the president has said okay to help determine his decision both of them were
04:55qualified uh but uh so we don't know for sure who who is the handsomest among this group and to be
05:02fair he's regret he has said he has regretted his decision to pick jay powell but sure i'm curious
05:07also mike about this idea of a shadow fed chair because there was talk about this a few months ago
05:12is doing this in public right now does it undermine the power of jay powell or will it if we get a pick
05:18or an announcement in the next few months well it could um it depends on when we get the announcement
05:24in part because they have to go through the confirmation process and generally anybody who
05:29is nominated for a senior job in the administration in any administration shuts up as soon as they're
05:35nominated because you don't want to make anybody mad up on capitol hill and not get voted uh for
05:40so uh they'd be quiet for a while and i suppose this is in theory for the seat that stephen myron
05:47uh holds now which would be a 14-year seat which is why they'd want to put the chair in that
05:52and so they'd want by the end of january if they can to get somebody confirmed so after that though
06:00then you know it's going to be up to the personality of the chair the the incoming chair whether they want
06:08you know it's going to publicly break with the actual chair
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