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The top focus of this episode of Super 6 is on the Enforcement Directorate's (ED) allegations of a cash-for-jobs scam in Tamil Nadu, implicating DMK Minister KN Nehru.
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00:00Hello and welcome. Good evening. You're watching Super 6 here on India Today.
00:04I'm Akshita Anandakopalo. The next one hour, all the top stories of the day coming your way.
00:10Let's begin with a quick glimpse of what to expect on this edition of Super 6.
00:14We'll be focusing first on the big political fight in Tamil Nadu over an alleged cash-for-vote scam
00:20that the enforcement director claims is unearthed.
00:24And so it's asked the Tamil Nadu police to go ahead and register a case based on what they've actually found.
00:30Is there any truth to this allegation of a massive, nearly 800 crore cash-for-jobs scam taint?
00:37The DNK has responded, referring to it as all false charges.
00:41We'll be getting you all the details about this alleged scam and what the political reactions are of the same.
00:47Also coming up on the show at 6.30 this evening.
00:50The footage of President Draupadi Mumu soaring sky-high in steel.
00:56She flew the Rafale today and what a powerful visual that.
01:00The Supreme Commander of our forces showing off the power, the might of the Rafale.
01:06We're going to be getting you those stunning images of our President.
01:10What a proud moment it is for all of us.
01:12Of her taking that sortie on board the Rafale and also the symbolic messaging involved to Pakistan.
01:17I'm Akshita Nanda Gopal. Here are the top 10 stories of the day.
01:25Congress MP Rahul Gandhi in his first rally in Bihar lashed out a Prime Minister Modi with a Natchega attack,
01:31saying if you tell Modi to dance, he will even dance for votes.
01:35He said this at a public rally in Bihar's Darbanga.
01:38Delhi Chief Minister Rekha Gupta hit back, saying people of the Maha Thakbandhan can do anything for votes during elections.
01:45Home Minister Amit Shah, also in battleground Bihar, launched a blistering attack on the Maha Thakbandhan.
01:53Hitting out at their RJD in Congress, Shah asked what did Lalu do for Bihar,
01:58accusing both parties of being steeped in scams and corruption.
02:02AIMIM Chief Asaduddin Oesi has accused Maha Thakbandhan of sidelining Muslims,
02:10saying essentially that there is no representation.
02:13They just we are the one asked about the same evaded questions.
02:16The most powerful picture of the day was from the Ambala airfield station.
02:24President Draupadi Mumu taking a historic sortie in a Rafale fighter jet
02:29and later posing with squadron leader Shivangi Singh.
02:32The same pilot about whom multiple Pakistani handles falsely claimed
02:36that she had been captured by Pakistan during Operation Sindhu.
02:40The much-awaited cloud-seeding operation by IIT Kanpur in Delhi has been put on hold for today.
02:50Due to low moisture levels over Delhi NCR, the team will resume operations once humidity improves
02:55as the capital continues to gasp under worsening air pollution.
02:59After yesterday's cloud-seeding, there was no artificial ring.
03:02Pro-Khalistani terrorist group Six for Justice has threatened to shut down Diljit Dosanjah's concert
03:10scheduled for 1st November in Australia.
03:13This after the singer was seen touching the feet of Amitabh Bachchan on the show Kaunbanega Kropati.
03:18The K-gang alleged that Amitabh Bachchan publicly incited mobs during the anti-Sikh riots.
03:23The Enforcement Directorate has alerted the Tamil Nadu police to a suspected large-scale cash-for-job scam in the state.
03:33The alleged scheme came to light during ED raids linked to a bank fraud case involving a real estate firm
03:39and a relative of DMK Minister K.N. Nehru.
03:42The minister has now alleged conspiracy.
03:46Mega DMK vs. Opposition face-off over farmers in Tamil Nadu.
03:50AIADMK's EBS, the BJP, TVK Chief Vijay.
03:53They've now hit out a Chief Minister, Stalin.
03:56This after Stalin put out a post recently of meeting filmmakers of the very popular film Bison.
04:04Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Chandrababu Naido undertook an aerial survey
04:07to assess the damage of Cyclone Manta packing winds of up to 110 km per hour.
04:13The storm unleashed heavy rains and squally winds in the coastal districts
04:17but the impact of the cyclone, fortunately, has been very minimal.
04:22US President Donald Trump has said that the USA is figuring out a trade deal with India
04:27as the two sides continue to hold talks on the proposed trade pact.
04:31While speaking at the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation CEO Summit in South Korea,
04:36Trump added that he had great respect and love for Prime Minister Modi.
04:47Thank you for listening.
05:17and we'll begin with an update on the aftermath of cyclone month I made
05:22landfall last night and what's been the situation well fortunately we've seen
05:27minimum casualties are quite a bit of damage being reported but as far as loss
05:32of life is concerned our report suggesting only two lives were lost now
05:37remember there was a time when during cyclones you'd see hundreds of lives
05:41being lost fortunately because of better preparedness better warning systems
05:46perhaps and then immediately the administration kicking into action you
05:50no longer see those kind of off situations because thousands are
05:52evacuated even before the cyclone and the Pradesh Chief Minister Chandrababu
05:56Naidu also took up an aerial survey today to assess the damage after cyclone
06:00montha the storm unleashed heavy rain and gusty winds in coastal states and
06:05on the Pradesh and Odisha in particular but we have seen the impact fortunately
06:10to be minimal the Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister has confirmed that two people
06:14have died in the state but has also highlighted the precautionary measures
06:17have minimized the overall damage now the chief ministers instructed ministers and
06:23officials to visit affected areas assist damages across departments and summit
06:28detailed reports to the center
06:29I am right now opposite the Machlipatnam bus stand where the restoration process is ongoing a tree which has been
06:49uprooted at this particular junction blocking the whole road is being moved by the JCB now here the JCB is being used as a restoration process
06:57after this huge tree had fallen on this road and this road was blocked partially after which now the JCB is clearing off
07:06several other you know incidents where barricading that were placed in here have been displaced during the heavy winds that have taken place
07:16many temporary and permanent sheds have fallen to the ground and several other incidents here in Machlipatnam
07:22Sir what is the current situation landfall in this particular land a very big task yesterday what is a situation any loss of life or restoration work how is it going
07:41yes yes due to the collective efforts of SP sir as well as collectors sir we prepared well for this month
07:49to fund and we are able to clear where are the where the road obstructions by the trees fell down around 200 about trees were fell down on the roads as well as current poles entire night this relief was have been going on and we are able to clear all road blockages by now and now it is the
08:11it appears it appears to be normal situation in Machlipatnam
08:14zero deaths that is our motive that is how we work only two or three were reported second thing we have to reduce the total loss only fields there are historical problems in the fields all drainage is not going freely
08:41so many problems we are going to work it out we're at the kakinada port on the deep side where you can see this is the search and rescue operations that are currently underway and in the search and rescue operations what we are getting to learn from officials is that seven members had gone inside to rescue their boats and bring it back safely back to the docks but unfortunately one person has gone missing since yesterday evening and this is a search and rescue teams that are currently out here and carrying out a
09:11these search and rescue operations since late evening yesterday remember cyclone tufan you know this tufan montha had already said that the landfall will be expected later in the evening yesterday with the impact that has braced in across various locations here in coastal Andhra Pradesh it definitely looks like kakinada has also been affected more likely if you can see local administration police and NDRF teams have also joined here in the search and rescue that has been
09:41is scheduled for today as well the next 24 hours the next 24 hours also likely looks like coastal Andhra Pradesh will be receiving a lot of rainfall but government officials and police and other officials do say that they are well prepared and are ensuring that whatever happens the public safety is their utmost priority that's all you can see out here as well NDRF teams who are also going ahead for continuing their search for you know search and rescue as it continues on
10:11they are frequently affected by the cyclones every and each cyclone so a little bit of disaster is every time done basically 95 percent are all completely fishermen people and they are worried about their livelihoods so they get out into the sea to save their boats that's the reason
10:24Okay let me bring in Abdul Bashir who's joining us from Machilipatnam to get us a sense of what really was the impact of the cyclone Abdul you've been out there through the night tracking the movement of the cyclone it brought with it of course extremely harsh strong winds and rainfall but what we're seeing on the ground is that as far as damage to life is
10:54It's concerned it's concerned it's been controlled because of the kind of preparedness that we saw on ground
10:58Well yes Akshita after the preparedness had begun day before yesterday thousands of people were relocated from low-lying areas warnings were given SMS alerts were sent to people and people on the higher areas or higher places were asked to be alert not to move out unnecessarily
11:23Fishermen were asked not to venture into the sea and regular control room that was set up in the disaster management where real-time monitoring was going on
11:31Police disaster and all the agencies including NDRF SDRF had been working for the past 24 hours till today afternoon wherein they had continuously been monitoring the situation and then fortunately in Machilipatnam what we are learning is that
11:46According to the officials no loss of life has been reported in Machilipatnam but yes damage to the properties more than 200 trees have fallen down or uprooted
11:55Dozens of poles have fallen down and power supply the car the you know disruption in power supply electricity was removed for more than 24 hours
12:03and other the restoration process however has been completed almost done but yes people are having a sigh of relief after this
12:11Storm the cyclone monta had hit or made a landfall in Machilipatnam with a disastrous wind that had been
12:18Blowing for more than three but it's great to see it's great to see that because of greater awareness preparedness
12:24We've seen the response to the cyclone being apt and so because of that minimum casualties being reported
12:32I want to bring in also Apoorva Jayachandran who's been reporting from Kakinada for us on the situation Apoorva things have come down now
12:40Post to the cyclone chief minister Naidu is also there conducted an aerial survey was on the ground
12:45What's your sense really of what happened in the cyclone Apoorva?
12:49have we ensured that there was you know minimum damage minimum loss of life of property as a result of better preparedness?
12:59Well Akshita definitely because you know we've seen several cyclones especially in Amir Pradesh you know be it the 1996 cyclone or you know cyclone Hoodput
13:08where we saw the chief minister Nara Chandra Babu in their station in Vishakhapatnam or even last year the Buddhumeru plus that we had seen
13:16that had devastated Vijaybada and several other areas in and around Anipal Asia as well.
13:20But one thing that has remained consistent is the kind of work that has been put in by the officials.
13:26Even when we were on ground, yes, we have a job of reporting, we have to cover these stories and all of that.
13:32But these officials, they were there 24-7.
13:35They were in fact stationed since the last 48 hours.
13:39And even come rain or winds, whatever it is, at the beaches, where the beaches were close to the public,
13:45there was continuous monitoring by police officials who were stationed there.
13:49And that's made, of course, a big difference.
13:51It's visible on the ground in the aftermath images also that we're seeing from Andhra Pradesh.
13:55Thanks, Abdul. Thanks, Apoorva, for getting us those updates.
13:59Apoorva and Abdul braved the storm to get you all of these updates on the movement of Cyclone Manta.
14:05This, perhaps, has become a template to the country, which is great to see,
14:08that we're better prepared for these kind of storms and calamities.
14:11All right, let's move on and get you our top story here on Super 6,
14:15which is the big political fight in Tamil Nadu over an alleged cash-for-jobs racket.
14:21Why are we calling it alleged?
14:22Because right now, the Enforcement Directorate has alerted the Tamil Nadu police to a scam.
14:29They say that they've unearthed while looking into another case.
14:33Now, there also are allegations that politicians are involved in this alleged scam.
14:38Let me break down for you first exactly what this cash-for-jobs showdown is all about.
14:47After the RJD's land-for-jobs scam in Bihar,
14:51Tamil Nadu now faces a cash-for-jobs bombshell.
14:55The Enforcement Directorate has raised the alarm
14:58over a massive scam in the municipal administration and water supply department,
15:03uncovered during raids linked to a bank fraud case involving TVH real estate,
15:09and a relative of a DMK minister, K.N. Nehru.
15:13The EDA described the 2024-2026 recruitment as rigged,
15:19with some candidates getting early access to exam information,
15:23and the bribe money moving through Hawala channels.
15:26Around 150 candidates are said to have brought their way in,
15:30with several officials and politicians allegedly in the mix.
15:35EDA claims candidates allegedly paid 25 to 35 lakh as bribes
15:40to grab government posts, including assistant engineers,
15:44junior engineers, town planning officers.
15:47These jobs were handed over by Chief Minister M.K. Stalin himself on August 6th this year.
15:56The ED has asked the Tamil Nadu police to register an FIR to kick-start a full-blown probe.
16:05Meanwhile, the AIA-DMK is firing back,
16:08claiming corruption is deep-rooted in the DMK,
16:11and reaches all the way to the Chief Minister.
16:14Looks like the entire net of politicians of DMK,
16:20staffs of the government, and many are involved.
16:24And ED had sent a letter to the DGP asking him to file an affair
16:28so that they can proceed with the investigation.
16:30Clearly shows how corruption is deep-rooted in this DMK.
16:34The BJP also trained guns at the Stalin government,
16:37and demanded CBI probe into the matter.
16:40TVK too accused the DMK government of playing with the lives of the people,
16:58adding that bribes decide jobs in Tamil Nadu, not merit.
17:01The AD pushes for action, the police holds the key,
17:07and the state graces for what could be one of its biggest scams yet.
17:13With Ramoth Madhav, Bureau Report, India Today.
17:16And we've got a reaction coming in from the Stalin government
17:26on this allegation from the Enforcement Directorate
17:29that there's a massive cash-for-jobs scam in Tamil Nadu.
17:33Tamil Nadu Minister K.N. Nehru, linked to this alleged scam,
17:37has spoken out, claiming all of this is a conspiracy by the central government.
17:42K.N. Nehru, who is the minister in charge, essentially, of this particular department,
17:48it's the MAWS department.
17:51So the minister now has spoken out,
17:53saying that this is an attempt to defame the DMK government.
17:56Remember that the Enforcement Directorate said
17:58that the way they found out about the scam
18:00was when they were actually going ahead and investigating
18:02a money-laundering aspect,
18:04and in which they were looking into one particular real estate firm
18:08that was linked to the department and to a relative of the minister.
18:13I want to bring in Ramoth Madhav.
18:14He's joining us live from Chennai with more details on this.
18:17Ramoth, what's been the response of the DMK?
18:19What does Mr. K.N. Nehru have to say?
18:24Well, Akshita, first and foremost thing is that
18:26this is a huge allegation that has been brought out
18:28by the Enforcement Directorate,
18:29where they claim that they've been for one investigation,
18:31but found details about another major job-for-scam,
18:34I mean, cash-for-job scam.
18:36This is the second one when it comes to the DMK government,
18:38where earlier one involving Sendhil Balaji
18:41is already under investigation.
18:43This is where EPS, TVK and various leaders have come forward
18:45claiming that this scam has called close to Rs. 800 crores,
18:49and now K.N. Nehru, the minister, has come forward
18:51and said that since AIDMK period,
18:54close a lot of jobs were vacant,
18:55and that is why they had to go ahead
18:57and conduct the program like this and bring in.
18:59And he claims that not even one candidate has gone ahead
19:01and find any kind of discrepancy against it,
19:03and he has called it a conspiracy.
19:05However, the ED letter categorically says
19:07that they have digital evidence for nearly 150 candidates
19:11who were involved in getting the job this way
19:13had paid nearly 25 to 35 lakh rupees based on the job.
19:17So that is why it is starting out to be a huge issue
19:19where EPS now is demanding an FAR, Akshita.
19:22So the allegation that's come in from the opposition
19:24is that this is a scam that runs up to the tune
19:26of about 800 crores.
19:28But mind you, these are all allegations right now.
19:31Thanks, Pramod, for joining us with those details.
19:33Let's get you more reactions coming in.
19:41And you've got AIDMK chief EPS now also wading in,
19:46demanding an FIR in this particular case.
19:49He's called it a cruel betrayal of Tamil Nadu's youth,
19:52referring to the fact that cash was paid
19:54allegedly for opportunities, for job offers,
19:57for an awful letter to be handed over to so many people.
20:01The ED, after alleging that there is a cash for job scam,
20:05has triggered a big political storm,
20:07with Edipati Pariniswamy now demanding
20:09that there be an FIR and an investigation.
20:12Let me bring in on this broadcaster our panel for the evening.
20:18We've got Ramakrishnan Rajagopal,
20:20our spokesperson of the Tamil Nadu BJP,
20:22a retired IAS officer.
20:24Our Sumansi Raman, political analyst,
20:26is also with us,
20:26and Darni Dharan, spokesperson of the DNK.
20:32All right, good evening to all of you.
20:34Thank you very much for your time.
20:35I'd like to begin with Dr. Sumansi Raman.
20:37What do you make, Dr. Sumansi Raman of these allegations that have been made?
20:41We have to again reiterate that at this point,
20:44these are mere allegations, but serious ones.
20:47Yeah, I think, Akshita, what...
20:50I mean, the ED is not an agency that generally inspires a great deal of confidence,
20:54going by their track record in the past.
20:57But here is a case where they claim
20:59they have 230 pages of evidence which have been submitted.
21:03Now, we don't know what is in these 230 pages
21:07and who are the people who have been named.
21:09But I think that at the very least,
21:12it warrants an inquiry.
21:13Now, if there is nothing to hide,
21:15there is no problem.
21:16But for the ED to get involved,
21:19they need a predicate offence FIR.
21:21So that is the reason why this FIR,
21:24they have returned to the DGP of police
21:25asking for the FIR to be registered.
21:28I don't expect the state government to register an FIR.
21:31They will probably drag it out.
21:34Maybe somebody will go to court
21:35or, you know, to force the registering of an FIR.
21:39But from a perspective of cash for jobs,
21:42it's an old, old story in Tamil Nadu.
21:45If you recall, Mr. Sendhil Balaji,
21:48that is also a cash for jobs scam.
21:50And in fact, that is during the AADMK period.
21:52Yes.
21:52So that is not even during the DMK period.
21:54That is largely during the previous government's term
21:56when Mr. Sendhil Balaji was accused.
21:59So this is not new to Tamil Nadu.
22:01But honestly, Akshita,
22:03I don't have a great deal of confidence
22:05that the ED will actually carry these out
22:08to its logical conclusion.
22:10We have seen, you remember the Delhi liquor scam
22:13where there was so much of hullabaloo.
22:16And the moment the Delhi elections were over,
22:18everyone has forgotten what has happened there at all.
22:21So there are many such cases.
22:23I could go on and on about the number of cases
22:25where they made noise
22:27and then they completely forgot about it.
22:29Okay.
22:29Here, an FIR must be registered
22:32and the matter must be investigated.
22:34I don't think there can be any two opinions on that.
22:37If there is nothing to hide,
22:38what is the problem?
22:39Dhani Dharan,
22:40your opening comments on these serious allegations,
22:43I know that the DMK has come out
22:44to refute them,
22:45but would you be open
22:47and would you be willing to go ahead
22:49and order an investigation
22:50into these allegations
22:52by the Enforcement Directorate?
22:55Yes, you said it's an allegation, right?
22:57Anyone can allege anything on anybody.
22:58No, but this isn't an individual allegation.
23:00So who is allegeing?
23:01Do they have credibility?
23:02So ED neither has credibility,
23:03not the locust and I.
23:04I speak to a lot of business houses.
23:07They have told me
23:08that ED officers up until the top
23:10are blackmailing them,
23:11saying on the prediction
23:12that they will arrest them
23:13if they don't pay them,
23:14bribe money.
23:15Two ED officers in Tamil Nadu were caught
23:17having 20 lakhs, right?
23:18Same thing happened in Rajasthan.
23:20So that is the credibility of the ED.
23:21What is the conviction rate of ED?
23:230.1%.
23:250.1%,
23:26which means
23:261,000 cases,
23:27only one case
23:28is able to get conviction.
23:29Out of 197 cases
23:31filed against politicians by ED,
23:3495% are against
23:35the opposition rule leaders.
23:36Even those opposition rule leaders,
23:38if they join BJP,
23:39the cases disappear.
23:40That is the credibility.
23:41So why will I act
23:42based on an allocation
23:43on an organization
23:44which neither does
23:45does not have even
23:46constitutional authority
23:47to do this,
23:48at the same time
23:49has no credibility.
23:50Why will anyone act?
23:51Why is the Modi government
23:52not acting against ED officials?
23:53ED is involving
23:54in harassing business people
23:56by taking bribe.
23:58So ED's bribe should stop.
23:59I will go further
24:00and see what happened
24:00to the Madras High Court.
24:02On the Tasma case,
24:03Justice Lakshmi Narayanan
24:05imposed a fine of 30,000
24:06on the ED
24:06and was told
24:08to stop the proceedings
24:08against two gentlemen,
24:10Mr. Vikram and Akash Bhaskaran.
24:12Why?
24:12And they said
24:13going inside the house
24:14and doing an investigation
24:15was wrong.
24:16Okay, fair enough.
24:18No, Dhani Dhani,
24:18you have given me
24:19a list of reasons
24:20as to why
24:20the ED's allegations
24:22right now
24:23cannot be the basis
24:24for an investigation.
24:25Mr. Rajagopal,
24:26what's your counter to that?
24:27You've heard from
24:28Mr. Dhani Dhani
24:29when he says that,
24:29look,
24:30the credibility of the ED
24:31is under question,
24:32so why should we
24:32take them seriously?
24:34No, it's not a question
24:35of the ED's credibility here.
24:39The ED has made
24:40a reference
24:40to the state police.
24:42Now, normally,
24:43such cases
24:44will be investigated
24:46or inquired into
24:47by the Vigilance Department
24:48of the state government.
24:50Now, the Vigilance Department
24:51has a certain process
24:52by which,
24:53you know,
24:54they complete many formalities
24:56before registering a FAR,
24:58particularly when a minister
24:59is involved.
25:00And therefore,
25:01I don't think the process
25:02will get completed
25:03within the limited time
25:05that we are going to see
25:06before elections.
25:07So, it's very important
25:08that in this case,
25:10if somebody has to
25:11investigate this case thoroughly,
25:14it has to go to the CBI.
25:16And that is the reason
25:16why the Tamil Nadu state
25:17BJP chief
25:18has requested
25:19that a CBI probe
25:20be initiated.
25:21I'm sure somebody
25:22will go to the High Court
25:23on this matter
25:23because the process
25:25is a fairly long process.
25:27No, sure.
25:28But Mr. Rajagopal,
25:29the question that's asked here
25:30is whether even the allegations
25:32at this point
25:32should be taken seriously
25:34or not
25:35because it's been leveled.
25:36The DMK says
25:37by an agency
25:38that's itself accused
25:39of being compromised.
25:41No, that's the real point.
25:43I mean, the point is
25:43in case somebody
25:45is alleging something,
25:46somebody has to enquire into it
25:47to find out
25:48whether that allegation
25:49is correct or not.
25:50I don't think
25:50the Vigilance Department
25:51will be able to enquire into it
25:53and get orders
25:54of the chief minister
25:54on this
25:55within the next
25:56four or five months.
25:57It's definitely
25:58not going to happen.
25:59And if the minister
26:00is involved,
26:01it's definitely not going to
26:02see the light of the day
26:03at all.
26:04So, if something concrete
26:06has to happen
26:07before the elections,
26:08it is important
26:09that this probe
26:09be done by
26:10an independent agency.
26:12So, therefore,
26:13I think this matter
26:14has to be enquired into
26:15because it's a serious matter.
26:16It concerns
26:16the youth of the state.
26:18It's a serious matter
26:19because it concerns
26:20the future of the department.
26:21The department
26:22is recruiting
26:23town service engineers.
26:24I mean,
26:24these are town planning people
26:25who are going to be there
26:26for the next 30, 40 years.
26:28Now, 35 lakhs
26:29may not appear
26:29to be a big amount
26:30for an engineer
26:31who's being recruited
26:32for the town planning department.
26:33But, at the same time,
26:36if recruitments
26:36are going to be done
26:37on the basis of corruption,
26:39on the basis of bribes
26:40being paid to ministers
26:41and their kin,
26:43then I think
26:43it's a very serious matter.
26:44No, of course.
26:44It's a serious, serious matter.
26:46And like Suman S. Raman
26:47highlighted,
26:48unfortunately,
26:48not the first time
26:49we've seen something
26:50like this in Tamil Nadu.
26:51Mr. Darni,
26:52go ahead.
26:52I'll come in to you,
26:53Mr. Raman,
26:54just a minute.
26:55Firstly and foremost,
26:56it's only an allegation
26:57and what is very important
26:58to note here
26:58is that ED has come
27:00and said this, right?
27:01So, what is the
27:02local standing for ED?
27:03Why is the ED doing?
27:03We all know ED acts
27:04in a partisan manner.
27:05I can speak for days
27:06that ED acts
27:07in a partisan manner.
27:08So, with the election
27:09around the corner
27:09to cast aspersion
27:10on the government,
27:11ED is going to come up
27:11with such allegations.
27:12But my question is,
27:13why has none of the applicants
27:15or none of them
27:16who failed to get a job
27:17or none of them
27:17in the job
27:18have gone to the court
27:19or filed complaint, right?
27:22The right procedure is
27:23if anyone feels
27:25there's a corruption
27:25has happened allegedly,
27:27they should go to the court
27:28and the court
27:28will take the matter.
27:30A partisan organization
27:31which is very, very clear.
27:32No, but hasn't the ED?
27:33The ED has followed
27:35due procedure here.
27:36Dhani Dharan,
27:37they follow due procedure
27:38which is that
27:38they've asked
27:39the Tamil Nadu police
27:39to go ahead
27:40and register a case.
27:41They've gone ahead
27:42and provided
27:42a 200-page-plus dossier
27:45right now on this also.
27:46No, but it depends on who
27:47200 pages.
27:48We have to see
27:49what the 200 pages is, right?
27:50You can write nonsense
27:51for 200 pages,
27:52400 pages.
27:52I read a lot of books
27:53every day.
27:54Complete garbage
27:54for 200, 400 pages.
27:56But what is there
27:57in the 400 pages matters.
27:58And I am saying,
28:00why should the ED
28:01get involved in it?
28:02What is the local standard
28:03for the ED?
28:04A partisan organization
28:05which job is to help
28:07the BJP party.
28:07Are you suggesting
28:09that the ED
28:11as an agency
28:12should kind of
28:13look the other way
28:14if they find
28:15an allegation of a scam?
28:18But not ED.
28:19I am saying
28:20the people who are affected
28:21should come.
28:22Or the support.
28:23Anyone can order, right?
28:25I can come and say
28:26that, for example,
28:28my dear friend
28:28Sumansi Raman
28:29has stolen 10 crores
28:31and filed some 200 pages
28:33where I write some nonsense
28:34and submit.
28:36Should the police
28:37start investigating
28:37him?
28:38No, I think
28:38but there is a difference
28:39between an individual
28:40and the ED.
28:40Yes, Dr. Raman.
28:42Akshita, my point
28:43is very simple.
28:44These 232 pages
28:46according to the ED
28:47and again,
28:47we have not seen
28:48those 232 pages
28:49are supposed to be
28:51having evidence
28:52of conversations
28:54between individuals
28:55and is supposed
28:57to be having
28:57a money trade.
28:59Now,
28:59are these transactions
29:01genuine?
29:02Have they happened?
29:03Are they linked
29:04to this case?
29:05Is something
29:05without an inquiry,
29:06how will you know?
29:07Let us assume
29:07ED is a partisan agency.
29:09Let us assume
29:10that they are doing
29:10it for political reasons.
29:12The bottom line
29:13is are these 232 pages,
29:15the material contained
29:16in them,
29:17factual or not?
29:19How will you know
29:20that unless you
29:20have an inquiry?
29:22See,
29:22this is not a question
29:23of a political party
29:25making an accusation.
29:26Now,
29:27there may be
29:27a logical explanation
29:28for those transactions
29:29which may not
29:31be indicated
29:32scam?
29:32We don't know.
29:33The challenge is here,
29:34Mr. Raman,
29:35you've got on one side
29:36the DMK saying,
29:37look,
29:37this is the ED
29:38leveling an allegation,
29:39there is no need
29:39to take it seriously.
29:40On the other,
29:40the BJP saying
29:41that we need
29:42a CBI investigation
29:43which the DMK
29:44will never agree to,
29:45saying agencies
29:45compromised.
29:46Where do we find
29:47ourselves here?
29:48Forget the ED.
29:49Let's assume ED
29:49is partisan.
29:50They have submitted
29:51232 pages.
29:53Release those 232 pages.
29:55Does it contain
29:56actionable evidence?
29:58Does it contain
29:59money trail?
29:59Is there another
30:00explanation for the
30:01money trail?
30:02Is there a logical
30:03explanation?
30:04What are the seizures
30:05that they have made
30:05during these raids?
30:07So,
30:07how are they linking
30:09them to this case?
30:10Nothing is known now
30:11and yet we are saying
30:12that there is no need
30:13because ED is biased.
30:15Let's assume ED is
30:16biased.
30:17But are these facts,
30:19are these allegations
30:20factual or not?
30:21Are these 232 pages
30:23right or not?
30:24Serious enough
30:25for an investigation
30:26essentially.
30:27But Mr. Rajagopat,
30:28one point,
30:29one point that
30:30Dhani Dharan has
30:31raised here is that
30:32look,
30:33where's the trail
30:33of a scam?
30:35If this is indeed
30:36true,
30:36what the ED has
30:37alleged,
30:37where are the
30:38victims?
30:38Why have they
30:38never spoken out
30:39before?
30:40I think that's a
30:41point which I
30:42wanted to counter.
30:43Now,
30:44nobody who's been
30:45recruited is going
30:46to raise this
30:47issue because
30:48he would lose
30:48his job in case
30:49he raises this
30:50issue.
30:50But those who
30:51are rejected,
30:52yeah.
30:53And those who
30:54have rejected,
30:54who have been
30:55rejected,
30:55probably have not
30:56been approached
30:57for payment of
30:58this money,
30:58one,
30:59or it is quite
31:00possible that
31:01even though they
31:02have paid,
31:03they are maybe
31:04under some sense
31:04of fear that
31:06action could be
31:06taken against
31:07them or a police
31:08case could be
31:08registered against
31:09them in case
31:10they come up
31:11with the
31:11information.
31:12You see,
31:12we must
31:12understand that
31:13what is being
31:14asked for is
31:15only a FIR and
31:16not a chart
31:16sheet.
31:17There's a lot
31:17of difference.
31:18A FIR is only
31:19a first information
31:20report.
31:21But the point is
31:22that once a FIR
31:23is registered,
31:24the ED will come
31:24into the scene
31:25and start looking
31:26at the money
31:26trail.
31:27Then the case
31:28could be
31:28established.
31:29The economic
31:30offence could be
31:31established.
31:31The money trail
31:32can be established.
31:32But here,
31:33I'm sure the FIR
31:34will be delayed
31:35deliberately because
31:36even though a
31:37prima facie case
31:38may be seen,
31:39they will
31:40definitely not
31:41register a FIR
31:42because they know
31:42that once a FIR
31:43is registered,
31:44automatically the
31:45ED will come
31:47into the picture.
31:48So the predicate
31:49offence will have
31:50to be registered
31:50first.
31:51Now, therefore,
31:52it looks like
31:53somebody else will
31:54have to come in
31:54and register a FIR
31:55because the case
31:56is against a
31:57senior minister
31:58of the government.
31:59We are all aware
32:00that the agency
32:01which is called
32:02as True Value Homes
32:03is a real estate
32:04agency which has
32:05been engaged in
32:06building construction
32:06and raising of
32:07flats and
32:08real estate
32:09for a long time.
32:11And it's very,
32:12very closely
32:13connected with
32:14that minister.
32:14So therefore,
32:15I don't expect
32:16that the state
32:16police will be
32:17able to do
32:17much in this.
32:19There is a
32:19process which is
32:20there.
32:20First, the
32:21Vigilance
32:21Department has
32:22to send a
32:22report.
32:23So in such
32:23a circumstance,
32:24Dhani Taran,
32:25your response,
32:26you know,
32:26when Mr.
32:27Rajagopal says
32:28that it looks
32:28unlikely that
32:30there will
32:30actually be
32:31any sort of
32:31investigation or
32:32registration of
32:33an FIR.
32:34Look, you may
32:35say that these
32:35are just
32:36allegations, but
32:37they are very
32:37serious.
32:37When we talk
32:38of cash for
32:39jobs, that's
32:39something that's
32:40rocked Tamil Nadu
32:41before and it's
32:42something that's
32:42very sensitive
32:43because we're
32:43talking about
32:44youngsters, we're
32:44talking about
32:45opportunities being
32:46perhaps taken away,
32:48stolen away from
32:49them.
32:49So is the DMK open to
32:51an investigation or
32:52not?
32:52them.
32:53See, firstly, I will
32:54go under, but Mr.
32:57Suman Siraman, when
32:58he says the 230
33:00pages could be
33:01released by the
33:02Tamil Nadu
33:02police, I'm
33:03saying the ED
33:03has sent the
33:04documents, ED
33:05can release it to
33:06the public, public
33:07can have a look at
33:09it, anyway, the
33:10public document is a
33:11public organization,
33:12people deserve to
33:13know.
33:14And secondly...
33:14No, but Danid
33:15in the moment is
33:16released, you will
33:17immediately say ED
33:18leaks are going out
33:19to the media.
33:20You can openly
33:20come and say we're
33:21going to release
33:22this document so
33:23that people can
33:23see.
33:23That's the point
33:24number one.
33:24The second point
33:25is anyone can go
33:27and find a public
33:27interest litigation
33:28on this matter and
33:29the court can look
33:30into the merits
33:30and then come...
33:32No, but my
33:33question is will the
33:33DMK be willing to
33:34have an inquiry into
33:36this?
33:36Are you open to an
33:37investigation?
33:38I am saying if
33:39there are merits, we
33:41will.
33:42Why would we want
33:42corruption?
33:43But my point is
33:43there is no scam
33:44that has happened
33:45in this.
33:45The minister has
33:46come out and
33:46explained and no
33:47one who's
33:48participated in the
33:48process has
33:49complained.
33:50And again, whatever
33:51my BJP spokesperson
33:53spoke was all
33:54assumption.
33:55They may not come
33:56because they're in
33:57the job.
33:57They may not come
33:58because the others
33:59are in fear or
34:00they don't know
34:01what happened.
34:01It's all assumption.
34:03I am saying the
34:03exams genuinely
34:04happened and they
34:05were genuinely
34:05recruited.
34:06And that is why
34:07there is no one
34:07coming and
34:08complaining.
34:09You are saying
34:09no, they are
34:10threatened or they
34:11are not...
34:11It's all assumption.
34:12How do you know
34:13the truth?
34:13I can come and
34:14tell anything.
34:16I can come and
34:17allege.
34:17I can allege
34:19something on the
34:20BJP spokesman.
34:21But where is the
34:22proof?
34:23Okay.
34:23Okay.
34:23Final comment.
34:26Final comment from
34:26Mr. Sumansi Raman.
34:28Final comment.
34:29Mr. Sumansi Raman,
34:30you know, looking at
34:30the timing of this,
34:32the fact that these
34:32allegations have come
34:33to the fore just
34:34months before an
34:36election, that's what
34:37also leads to all of
34:38the questions about
34:39whether this is a
34:39political conspiracy.
34:41Look, Akshita, I
34:42have no, not an
34:44iota of doubt that
34:45based on the past
34:46track record, the
34:47ED is a partisan
34:47organization.
34:49Right?
34:49So I, and they
34:50play, they dance to
34:51their tune of the
34:52masters at the
34:53center.
34:53So I have no
34:54hesitation in
34:56voicing that.
34:58Having said that,
34:59here is an
34:59allegation that the
35:00ED has made.
35:01Now, is there
35:03evidence in it or
35:04is there, if there
35:05is no evidence, what
35:06should be the
35:06argument?
35:07look, we are
35:08clean, nothing has
35:09happened, please go
35:10ahead and we will
35:11file an FIR, our
35:12vigilance department.
35:13Actually, it makes
35:14more sense for the
35:15state government to
35:15file an FIR and
35:17say and drag the
35:18investigation out
35:19rather than refuse to
35:21file an FIR and
35:22allow the court to
35:23get involved and
35:24maybe order a CBA
35:25inquiry.
35:26So actually, if I
35:26was a state
35:28government person, I
35:30would probably say
35:31file an FIR, give
35:32it to the
35:33vigilance department,
35:34let them take their
35:35own sweet time with
35:36the investigation, drag
35:37it out till after
35:37the election.
35:38That would be a
35:39good strategy for
35:40the state government
35:40to follow.
35:41I don't know if
35:41they will follow
35:42that, but that
35:43would make more
35:44sense for them.
35:45Well, I'll only
35:46say away from
35:46political strategy
35:47that we hope we
35:48get to the truth
35:49of what's happened,
35:50whether there was
35:51any scam at all
35:52or not.
35:53Thank you very
35:54much.
35:54Thank you very
35:55much, gentlemen,
35:55for joining me
35:56here on India
35:57today.
35:58We will continue
35:59to, of course,
35:59track the story
36:00very, very closely
36:01because now with
36:03the enforcement
36:03directorate submitting
36:04this 200-page
36:05dossier, we'll
36:07have to see if
36:07there is a
36:08formal investigation
36:09or not into
36:10these allegations
36:11of a cash-for-job
36:12scam in
36:13Tamil Nadu.
36:14I'm slipping
36:14into a short
36:15break here on
36:15Super 6.
36:16I am, however,
36:17going to give
36:17you these images
36:18of Tamil Nadu
36:19Chief Minister
36:19M.K.
36:20Stalin in
36:20Tenkasi today
36:21in a moment of
36:23interaction with
36:24girl students
36:24actually trying
36:25his hand at
36:26Salambu.
36:28Doing quite a
36:28good job
36:29anyway.
36:29Enjoy.
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39:00President Murmu also posed with squadron leader Shivangi Singh, the same fighter pilot about whom multiple Pakistani social media handles falsely claimed that she had been captured by Pakistan during Operation Sindhu.
39:14Squadron leader Shivangi Singh had earned her qualified flying instructor badge at Tambaram in Tamil Nadu on Tuesday.
39:23Later in the visitor's book, the president noted,
39:26The sortie on the Rafale is an unforgettable experience for me.
39:30The first flight on the potent Rafale aircraft has instilled in me a renewed sense of pride in the nation's defence capabilities.
39:38Draupadi Murmu has become the first president to fly the Rafale jet.
39:42She had taken her maiden sortie in Sukhoi 30 Mark 1 fighter aircraft in 2023.
39:52Bureau Report, India Today.
40:22Gurmu was taking that sortie in one of those jets.
40:24Secondly, that picture with squadron leader Shivangi Singh.
40:27So, the picture with Shivangi Singh that Pakistani social media had claimed had been taken prisoner of war, captured and taken prisoner of war by Pakistan during Operation Sindhu,
40:38when Pakistan claimed it had downed a Rafale, you know, it just completely, that lie has been called out and not by India clarifying or giving any facts that Pakistan desperately sought,
40:50but by just putting squadron leader Shivangi Sharma out there in public domain, Shivangi Singh in public domain, that's point one, point two.
40:58She was in Tambaram, she's become a QFI qualified flying instructor, she was always in India, none of the aircraft anywhere crossed the LC or the IB to hit across.
41:07Now you're using beyond visual range missiles and the kind of weapons and systems India used, none of our fighter jets crossed across and were shot down.
41:17Pakistan actually relied on a series of half-truths and absolute lies that are systematically being called out.
41:24One lie has been called out now, other lies will be called out very soon, but not because India wants to clarify.
41:31As Chief of Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal AP Singh said, let them keep guessing and let them assume that they've shot down whatever number of aircraft they claim they have.
41:40Let them factor in those many less aircraft because Operation Sindhu remains on.
41:45And in case Pakistan starts believing its lies, then next time it'll be caught by a bigger surprise.
41:51Because do keep in mind, like you and I and Shivani have reported so extensively, Akshita, the fact remains Operation Sindhu is not just about targeting nine terrorist training camps,
42:01it's also punching holes through Pakistan's radar and air defense systems and then bombing 11 Pakistani air bases by the time.
42:10And that's something that President Draupadi Murmu's flight also signifies.
42:13India had complete air superiority over Pakistan 10th of May.
42:18If Pakistan wasn't flying its air force anymore, imagine a country with 11 of its air bases bombed, six of its radars out of action.
42:26Can it fight a war? It cannot.
42:28So those are Pakistan's lies that are systematically being called out by the Nari Shakti of India.
42:34And this is very, very smart messaging by President Murmu, you know, using this occasion to send multiple messages across to Pakistan on Operation Sindhu.
42:43So Shivani, I'll bring you in because, you know, the biggest takeaway for me from those images is just how much pride you feel and how inspiring it is to see a woman president there in a G-suit, fully suited up, taking that sortie in a rafal.
42:58Certainly, Akshita, it's a different feeling, especially we can connect to that feeling being women.
43:06And after Defense Minister, Prime Minister, all the chiefs, it was the turn of the president to be among the heroes of Operation Sindhu.
43:13And this particular sortie was a remarkable sortie in multiple manner, not only because it proved the operational capability of Indian air forces from Ambala Air Base that happened to be one of the strategic locations from where the rafals were launched during Operation Sindhu,
43:31but also in terms of busting the lie, fake narrative of Pakistan by posing proudly with the squadron leader Shivangi Singh, to which Pakistan was claiming that she was captured, she was the prisoner of war.
43:44And India did not clarify in panic, remember, Akshita.
43:48These are the pictures that are emerging automatically.
43:51Earlier this month, we also saw squadron leader Shivangi Singh getting that badge, the qualifying badge in Tambaram.
43:59Then we see her with the president.
44:01So this is not how India is giving a clarification, but automatically the lie, the fake agenda of Pakistan is getting busted.
44:09And also a very strong and stern warning for Pakistan that India's Rafal jets, India's operational capabilities and India's operational alertness is on a high.
44:20Operation Sindhu is still on.
44:22And the president, the president, the supreme commander, not only acknowledging the heroes of Operation Sindhu, but also carrying that gratitude from the nation to these heroes who are part of Operation Sindhu.
44:34And, you know, the messaging of being the supreme commander of the forces and being there with them, sending across a message from the Rafal, from the skies, amazing, truly.
44:44Thanks very much, Shivani, for joining us with those details.
44:46Thanks to Gaurav as well.
44:47Let's cut across to a news break coming in.
44:56And there's been an explosion reported in Handwara village in Jammu and Kashmir in which four boys, children, have been injured.
45:04Here's what we know right now.
45:05The blast took place when a group of children were playing cricket.
45:09This was in an open field.
45:10The police have cordoned off the area.
45:12There's an investigation right now underway to ascertain the nature of the explosion and the source of the blast.
45:19Meir Farid is joining me with more details.
45:22So on this, Meir, what do we know at this point?
45:24Is this a suspected terror attack?
45:26Well, this is a mysterious blast, Kshita, as far as the police forces are concerned.
45:34They are right now not confirming the nature of the blast.
45:37But most probably, our sources say, it could be an old piece of ordinance, an unexploded shell with which these kids were fiddling and it exploded.
45:46Now, four children have been injured and two of whom are said to be in a critical condition.
45:51They have been shifted to SKIMS, which is a speciality hospital in Srinagar.
45:56And right now, police teams are at the location.
45:58It's an open field.
45:59They were playing cricket.
46:00And we know this area is not very far away, although it's some distance away from line of control.
46:05But there could be a case where there was an unexploded ordinance, an artillery shell most probably, with which they were fiddling and it exploded.
46:13Now, nature of the blast is being ascertained.
46:16But as of now, the police have said that it's not a terror attack.
46:20All indications suggest that it was a piece of ordinance, probably an old rust shell which you're fiddling with, and it exploded, causing these burn injuries.
46:29Akshita?
46:29Unfortunate incident.
46:30Two boys, as Mir tells us, are critical at this point.
46:34So our prayers with them, with their families.
46:36Thanks, Mir, for joining us with those details.
46:39And with that news break, I'm wrapping up this edition of Super 6.
46:42Thanks very much for tuning in.
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