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00:00all eyes are on Kuala Lumpur as world leaders gather for the 47th ASEAN Summit so on this hour
00:13we want to discuss what we can expect from this summit both challenges and opportunities
00:20will top the agenda will internal or external issues dominate the meetings among regional and
00:27global leaders we're also looking at what some of the analysts have been discussing leading up to
00:33this summit some analysts call for ASEAN to perhaps rethink their hedging strategy amidst global power
00:40rivalry while others stress that this approach may just be crucial for the bloc's survival to unpack
00:47some of these key questions and what we can expect from the summit we're joined by a professor Farkim
00:52Bank professor of ASEAN Studies International Islamic University Malaysia and director of the
00:57Institute of International and ASEAN Studies thank you so much professor for joining us this morning
01:04want to talk about the ASEAN Summit of course maybe we can start with some of your overall general
01:10expectations what we can expect either challenges or opportunities well thank you very much for that
01:18question well as you know the ASEAN Summit is actually a combination of several summits or even
01:25senior officials meetings and ministerial meetings now over the last one year we have had more than 330
01:35meetings all together all in now the one that usually attracts the attention of people around the world is the ASEAN Summit in May
01:45but then that was also combined with ASEAN Gulf Cooperation and China Economic Summit
01:50followed by the ASEAN Regional Forum which is a gathering of all the foreign ministers from 27 member states
01:57surprisingly including North Korea so in that sense ASEAN is a regional organization that has successfully tried to
02:05enlist states or various stakeholders to come into the region to discuss and to resolve their differences
02:13resolved ideally resolved but as we can see even when president Donald Trump is in Kuala Lumpur on the 26th of October
02:24he will be witnessing the Cambodian Thai
02:28ceasefire which will be formalized in the form of Kuala Lumpur Accord but then as he does that the following day he's actually flying to Tokyo
02:38and then when he's done with Japan he will be flying to the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation meeting in South Korea and that's where he will meet with President Xi Jinping to try to
02:48put an end to any kind of acute trade friction and tension between China and the United States and that's the most complex challenge
02:59a lot of attention of course on President Trump as you mentioned but before we get to that we want to look at some of the internal dynamics
03:09internal issues that perhaps will top the agenda for regional leaders within ASEAN
03:15what do you think will top the agenda for ASEAN leaders?
03:19If one were to go according to what is listed on the preamble of the ASEAN charter that normally begins with we the people of ASEAN
03:29then obviously at the top of the priority should be digital scanning because there have been many victims both in the region and without
03:38and it has actually given ASEAN an excellent branding and value
03:43a bad name especially in light of what has happened in Cambodia resulting in the death of a Korean university or college student
03:54and there is a big uproar in South Korea right now on this particular issue
04:00so within that context digital scamming is actually top of the priority if we go according to the concept of we the people
04:08and we the people would suggest that nationals from ASEAN and also from China, Japan, Korea and 11 strategic dialogue partners
04:19if not the whole world has a stake in making sure that ASEAN remains vibrant, healthy and free from digital scamming
04:28whether it's Cambodia, Myanmar or borders verging on Laos and Indochina
04:34I want to go back to an earlier point you mentioned about the Thailand-Cambodia ceasefire and how this might be formalized through an accord
04:44what can we expect in terms of actually seeing a ceasefire holding through solidifying because as we know talks and negotiations
04:56dialogues between both parties are still going on can we see this being put to an end peace actually maintaining with this formalizing of the ceasefire through an accord?
05:10Well that's an excellent question and then the question also has to be put in the right context in that sense
05:17of all the ceasefire in the world including the armistice that you have in North Korea and South Korea from 1953 onwards
05:24tight as it is you still have violations
05:26so when we look at it from that optic or from that spectrum including the ceasefire in Israel and Gaza
05:35what we have been told and what we have got to know is that there are violations
05:40so even when Cambodia and Thailand can actually resolve some differences
05:45have a very good mechanism in the form of the general border committee
05:50where the generals from both sides will try to mollify and overcome the flashpoint
05:56one cannot completely overrule the possibility the high possibility of violations and incursion
06:06but in the main the ceasefire will still be retained and that is something that we could look forward to
06:15but do not be discouraged when we see any violations of any kind
06:20With President Trump in attendance, how do you think this might influence the dynamics of the ceasefire and the negotiations going on
06:29with Malaysia as well of course playing an important part in the negotiations?
06:35That again is a very pertinent question and I have to commend you accordingly
06:38The reason I started on that note is because as you may be aware
06:44Trump is one of those presidents in the United States of coming from the West
06:48who somehow has this affinity for generals
06:52and as long as he knows that this ceasefire is managed by the generals from both sides
07:01there will be some kind of invisible chain of command
07:04between Washington DC and Bangkok and even Phnom Penh
07:09that the generals are supposed to get to the responsibility of ensuring that there are no arms exchange of fire
07:19So hopefully bullets will not be traded
07:22and as that goes further and further in producing the necessary momentum and critical mass
07:28in elevating the chances of peace
07:32more and more victims that have been affected by the conflict in July and August
07:38will start relocating back to their residents
07:42from reliable sources that has been happening since August
07:46but it has to happen in a large or in a larger number
07:50because 300,000 people, 160,000 from Cambodia, 140,000 from Thailand
07:58have been affected by that conflict
08:01With President Trump, of course, another crucial question that we have to address
08:09is to do with the US tariffs
08:11but apart from that, another concern that comes to mind is the crisis in Gaza
08:16Just recently, Malaysia says it will leverage its upcoming meeting with the US President Donald Trump
08:22to deepen bilateral ties and broaden strategic cooperation in trade, security and humanitarian efforts
08:29particularly stressing on Gaza
08:31How do you think this will play out?
08:34Well, when it comes to Gaza
08:36before October 7, 2023
08:40from what I could gather from the lives of Professor Norman Finkelstein
08:44at least 600 humanitarian trucks have to be at the border
08:50in order to provide the necessary food
08:53It doesn't mean that 600 is enough
08:55but that's the minimum each day
08:58Now, how many trucks will be allowed to enter Gaza
09:03to provide the necessary assistance
09:05that is subject to the politics and the volatility of the situation on the ground
09:11Coming back quickly to ASEAN
09:14and what the Prime Minister of Malaysia, Dato Sri Anwar
09:18can do on this particular issue
09:21I think as and when he has a successful US-ASEAN summit
09:27on the evening of the 26th
09:28he can actually implore or even kindly request
09:35that President Donald Trump put more attention
09:37on increasing the number of humanitarian aid and trucks
09:41that can go into Gaza
09:43to make the ceasefire sustainable and permanent
09:46That's what to do with Gaza
09:49but what about the question of US tariffs?
09:52How do you think ASEAN will address this?
09:55Before this, a lot of analysts were concerned whether ASEAN can act in unison
10:00to put on a united front when discussing the US tariffs
10:04Do you think there's still room for negotiations or dialogue regarding this?
10:09Or is this considered case closed?
10:12I would say that this is not possible
10:14a united stance
10:16because the intra-regional trade of ASEAN itself is 23%
10:21Now if we were to confine intra-regional trade of ASEAN
10:26to say three specific countries
10:28that would be Singapore, Indonesia and Malaysia
10:30where the intra-regional trade then shoots up to about 80%
10:35which is extremely high
10:36then there is a likelihood of those three countries
10:39not the whole of Southeast Asia
10:41trying to negotiate for a standard tariff
10:45but then having said so
10:47President Donald Trump has mentioned that
10:50tariff is the most beautiful word in the English dictionary
10:53and in spite of what we may do
10:57there is still a baseline tariff of 10%
11:00that has been imposed on Singapore
11:02in the case of Malaysia
11:03we have been imposed with a tariff of 19%
11:06and the best scenario that we can look for
11:10when we have a discussion with President Donald Trump
11:13or United States
11:13is to have that 19% reduced
11:16so that we can trade on an equal basis
11:19together with Singapore
11:21and ideally with Indonesia too
11:23On that point of tariffs
11:26and of course the tariff wars between the US and China
11:30a lot of analysts have also been questioning
11:34whether ASEAN should maintain
11:36the type of hedging strategy
11:37that it's been employing within
11:41or amidst this power rivalry
11:43do you think that there needs to be a rethink?
11:46What are your thoughts on this strategy?
11:48Is it crucial for the bloc to survive?
11:51Well as and when I speak to policy makers
11:53from Malaysia and different parts of ASEAN
11:55I have this impression that
11:57they don't necessarily consider hedging
12:00as a realistic or practical strategy
12:03in the sense that politics
12:06between their countries
12:09our country
12:09and Washington D.C.
12:11and Beijing are extremely volatile
12:13so regardless of what strategy
12:16that you put in
12:16the practicality and the occasions
12:21demand everyone to be extremely flexible
12:24so it's not necessary to hedge
12:28but everyone should exercise more flexibility
12:31in trying to negotiate
12:33for the best outcome
12:34and of all the relationships out there
12:37the one diet
12:39the one relationship
12:40that is critical
12:42to the economy and security
12:44world order
12:45is actually the Sino-Chinese
12:48my apologies
12:49the Sino-US relationship
12:51if ASEAN can get
12:53that relationship is right
12:55and I'm referring to the whole of ASEAN
12:57all 10 or 11 member states
12:59then hopefully
13:01that can become a cushion
13:02to whatever is destructive
13:05manifestation that we can see
13:09from China and the United States
13:11I want to move on to another
13:14maybe internal issue
13:16that will potentially be
13:17on top of the agenda for ASEAN
13:19talking about the crisis in Myanmar
13:23now Malaysia has conveyed ASEAN support
13:25for an election in Myanmar
13:27this December
13:28Can we expect any progress?
13:30any advancements
13:31to do with the Myanmar crisis
13:32in the summit this time around?
13:35well
13:35Prime Minister Dato Sri Anwar Ibrahim
13:38has the local stand-eye
13:41as the group chair
13:42even after the expiration
13:44of the ASEAN chairmanship
13:47he is still seen as a statesman
13:49so in that sense
13:50he can engage
13:51Senior General Min Aulang
13:53Myanmar
13:54the leader of the junta
13:56or what is also known as
13:58Tatmadaw
14:00in Myanmar
14:00however
14:02based on the
14:04information that I have
14:07Senior General Min Aulang
14:08is one of the most
14:09hard-hated person
14:10in the region
14:12and is unlikely
14:13to make him
14:14concede
14:15on
14:16any
14:18issues
14:19regarding the general election
14:20Myanmar
14:21he will continue
14:22from January
14:23December 28th
14:24onwards
14:25and in all likelihood
14:27the election
14:28could be
14:31pervasively
14:32fraudulent
14:33and that would lead to
14:37the collapse
14:38of the very legitimacy
14:40that
14:41Senior General Min Aulang
14:43is looking for
14:44with that in mind
14:46should ASEAN leaders
14:47act with perhaps
14:48more urgent
14:49with more
14:51I guess
14:54assertiveness
14:55definitely
14:58as it is right now
14:59the coup happened
15:00on February 1st
15:012021
15:01and over the last
15:03a few years
15:03at the very least
15:05we have the Jakarta
15:06consensus
15:06and the key to the
15:08Jakarta consensus
15:08is to have a ceasefire
15:09now
15:11we cannot expect
15:13a general
15:13ceasefire
15:14all over
15:15Myanmar
15:16because the
15:17Tatmadaw
15:18or General Min Aulang
15:19has not really
15:20controlled the whole
15:21Myanmar
15:22he has merely
15:23controlled
15:2430%
15:25of the whole
15:26country
15:26and that's one of the
15:27reasons why
15:28the general election
15:29comes into question
15:30because when you do
15:31not controlling the
15:32whole country
15:32how can you
15:33introduce and
15:34enforce a free
15:35and fair
15:36general election
15:37now within
15:38the context
15:39of what I just
15:40said
15:41what am I actually
15:42inferring is the
15:43the fact that we
15:44have been
15:44cohabiting
15:45and coexisting
15:47with a very
15:48questionable
15:48leader and
15:50regime in
15:50Myanmar
15:50over the last
15:52four years
15:52and if that
15:54is the best
15:55or the
15:56least worst
15:57that scenario
15:58we have to
15:59live up to
16:00or work with
16:02then there's
16:04none other
16:04choice
16:05because politics
16:06is not about
16:07the perfect
16:07world
16:08that having
16:09been said
16:09discussions
16:11have been
16:12ongoing
16:12that instead
16:13of a special
16:14send to
16:15Myanmar
16:15that served
16:16only one year
16:16maybe that can
16:17be extended to
16:18three years
16:18to give more
16:19leeway and
16:20tenure to that
16:21person to
16:22convince Myanmar
16:23to correct
16:24itself
16:25I don't want
16:26to talk about
16:27the Philippines
16:28chairmanship of
16:29ASEAN next
16:30year but
16:30before we go
16:31on that
16:32with the
16:32Philippines
16:33mind with
16:34Myanmar
16:34context how
16:35do you think
16:36the conflict
16:38the crisis in
16:39Myanmar will
16:39play out with
16:40Philippines
16:41the helmet of
16:42ASEAN
16:42chairmanship in
16:432026
16:44if maritime
16:47incident is a
16:48security concerns
16:50to the
16:50Philippines
16:51maybe what
16:52they can do
16:53is to try
16:54what has
16:55done
16:56in Myanmar
16:56in the case
16:57Myanmar
16:58for example
16:58there is no
17:00general ceasefire
17:01as I mentioned
17:02earlier but
17:02there is a
17:03month-to-month
17:04ceasefire
17:04that has been
17:06agreed between
17:07Senior General
17:07Min Aulang and
17:08Prime Minister
17:09Dr. Sri
17:09Anwar Brahim
17:10and that has
17:11been deemed
17:11and regarded
17:12as a progress
17:13by the way
17:14of ASEAN
17:15if Philippines
17:18and China
17:19can have
17:20that kind
17:21of month-to-month
17:22avoidance
17:25of incidents
17:26at sea
17:26that can
17:28also become
17:29a form of
17:29confidence
17:30building measure
17:31but it's up
17:32to the two
17:33countries to
17:34decide whether
17:35that is the
17:35proper
17:36mode of living
17:37to move
17:37forward
17:38so that
17:40Philippines
17:41can be a
17:41decent and
17:42stable chair
17:43rather than
17:44allowing all
17:46the daily
17:47and monthly
17:48incidents to
17:49impinge on
17:50the agenda
17:50of Philippines
17:53as a group
17:53chair
17:54throughout the
17:55year of
17:562026
17:57On that
17:59notes
17:59discussing
18:00the South
18:01China Sea
18:01discussing
18:02what's
18:02happening
18:02in Myanmar
18:04with Thailand
18:04and Cambodia
18:05just to reflect
18:07on what
18:07I guess
18:08I've been
18:08discussing
18:09with
18:09analysts
18:09over the
18:10last year
18:10with
18:11Malaysia's
18:11chairmanship
18:12of ASEAN
18:13I've been
18:14hearing a lot
18:14from experts
18:15about the
18:15need for
18:16ASEAN
18:16to rethink
18:17its strategy
18:18to rethink
18:19some of
18:19overall
18:20model and
18:21concepts
18:21especially
18:22with the
18:22consensus
18:23model
18:23some
18:24pointing out
18:25that's it
18:25maybe
18:25sort of
18:26hindrance
18:26to
18:27it's acting
18:28more
18:29aggressively
18:29or faster
18:30on certain
18:31issues
18:31you
18:32produce
18:33an article
18:34recently
18:34describing
18:35that
18:35this
18:35very
18:36patience
18:37ice
18:37perhaps
18:38its own
18:39strength
18:39for ASEAN
18:40How are you?
18:41see ASEAN
18:42balancing unity
18:43with the need
18:44for more
18:44decisive action
18:45I guess
18:46this is a
18:46question that
18:47we always
18:47discuss
18:48when it
18:48coming to
18:49ASEAN
18:49boots
18:49you
18:50think that
18:50this is a
18:50time for
18:51ASEAN
18:51to think
18:52about that
18:52when you
18:56have too
18:57many leaders
18:57flying in
18:58and these
18:59are leaders
19:00coming from
19:01the likes
19:02of Brazil
19:03Italy
19:04United States
19:06then obviously
19:08it's a
19:08potpourri of
19:09different
19:09diplomatic
19:10culture
19:10and if we
19:12were to
19:12very focused
19:13thank you
19:14questioning
19:15the very
19:16mechanism
19:17that has
19:17allowed ASEAN
19:18to go
19:19forward
19:19over the
19:20decades
19:21then that
19:22maybe
19:22too much
19:23on the
19:24agenda
19:24of the
19:24respectively
19:25leaders
19:25but that
19:26having been
19:27said
19:27the
19:28analysts
19:29that you
19:29have
19:29spoken to
19:30may have
19:30misconceived
19:31or misunderstood
19:32the concept
19:34of consensus
19:35because European
19:36Union also
19:37function on
19:38the concept
19:39of consensus
19:40too
19:40the 27
19:41member states
19:42that form
19:42European Union
19:43does focus
19:45on consensus
19:46as a
19:46basis of
19:48the decision
19:48making
19:48mechanism
19:49we are
19:50ASEAN
19:51do that
19:52but we
19:53do that
19:53to the
19:54degree
19:54that we
19:55are
19:56extremely
19:56concerned
19:57about
19:57non-intervention
19:59when in
19:59fact non-intervention
20:01should be
20:01understood
20:02based on
20:02two pillars
20:03one
20:04no member
20:05states of
20:05ASEAN
20:06shall
20:07support the
20:08opposition
20:08movement
20:09of another
20:09country
20:11seconds
20:12no member
20:13states of
20:14ASEAN
20:14shall also
20:15overtly or
20:17covertly
20:17criticize the
20:18military
20:18alliance
20:19of another
20:20country or
20:21another member
20:22state
20:22given that
20:24two pillars
20:24in place
20:25non-intervention
20:27is not a
20:28taboo
20:28actually
20:28in fact
20:29behind the
20:30scene
20:30ASEAN
20:31leaders
20:32do
20:33quote unquote
20:36intervene in
20:37the affairs of
20:38one another
20:38but in a
20:39very discreet
20:40manner
20:41and the
20:41same can be
20:42said about
20:42European Union
20:43too
20:43you mentioned
20:45something interesting
20:46How are you?
20:47described when
20:48you know you
20:48have too many
20:49leaders flying
20:50in it becomes
20:50this kind of
20:51potpourri us
20:52you said of
20:53diplomacy and
20:54power play
20:55and I guess
20:56how much like
20:57we've been
20:57discussing
20:58this hour how
20:59a lot of us
21:00attention has
21:01indirectly been
21:02diverted to
21:03you know
21:04President Donald
21:05Trump of
21:05course becoming
21:06the focus of
21:09media and
21:10analysts and
21:11observers
21:11How are you?
21:13think important
21:14is it for
21:15ASEAN to
21:15control the
21:16narrative to
21:17ensure that
21:18you know
21:19it's the
21:19focus should be
21:20on them and
21:21on how they
21:22navigate these
21:22issues and not
21:23necessarily
21:24catering or
21:25kowtowing to
21:25these global
21:26powers
21:26do you think
21:28this is a
21:28time for
21:29ASEAN to
21:30sort of
21:30centralize and
21:31control them
21:32narrative at a
21:33time when
21:33The world is watching.
21:34towards them
21:35the concept
21:37of centralizing
21:38the narrative
21:38would probably
21:39be too strong
21:40in the sense
21:41that the
21:43region of
21:43ASEAN practice
21:44what is known
21:45as guided
21:45press in
21:47other words
21:48the media is
21:49free to report
21:50on anything
21:51that they like
21:52but then inside
21:53to a certain extent
21:54of decorum
21:55and property
21:56and the reason
21:58why can we have
21:58this is very frank
21:59and candid
22:00dialogue is
22:01precisely because
22:02we are allowed
22:03and we are
22:04encouraged to
22:05think deeply
22:06and freely
22:06on issues
22:08that impact
22:08the nation
22:09the region
22:10and the world
22:10given the fact
22:12that there is
22:14a large
22:14collection of
22:15leaders that
22:15are coming
22:16this
22:16I think
22:17what they
22:17will be
22:17most impressed
22:18ice
22:19the
22:21freedom
22:23for the
22:23leaders
22:24to engage
22:25the media
22:26freely
22:27I know
22:28for a fact
22:28that the
22:29Thai PBS
22:29for instance
22:30would be
22:30interviewing
22:31President
22:31Lula
22:31of Brazil
22:33and when
22:34he feels
22:34that there
22:35is it
22:36censorship
22:36in Asia
22:37as badly
22:37as what
22:38the West
22:38tends to
22:39think
22:39I think
22:40he will
22:40return a
22:41very happy
22:41man
22:41and if
22:43Astro
22:43Cloudy
22:44were to
22:44interview
22:45any
22:45top
22:47leaders
22:47that fly
22:47this
22:48and
22:49they
22:50cute
22:50away
22:50believing
22:51that
22:51there
22:51special
22:51been
22:51no.
22:52censorship
22:52at
22:52all
22:53again
22:53they
22:54will
22:54be
22:54very
22:55much
22:55encouraged
22:55by
22:56that
22:57culture
22:57and also
22:58rule of
22:58law
22:59Professor we are
23:00coming towards
23:01the end
23:01we have
23:01just about
23:02one minute
23:02or two
23:02boots I
23:03did you say
23:03we want
23:04to talk
23:04briefly
23:05about
23:05how
23:06this
23:06summit
23:06ice
23:07also
23:07making
23:07way
23:08for
23:08the
23:08Philippines
23:09chairmanship
23:09of ASEAN
23:10this
23:102026
23:12and
23:12then
23:13marking
23:13the end
23:14of
23:14Malaysia's
23:15chairmanship
23:15just
23:16some
23:16brief
23:17thoughts
23:17how about
23:18Malaysia
23:18special
23:19done
23:20a
23:21rather
23:21wonderful
23:21job
23:22of
23:22navigating
23:22many
23:23issues
23:24and
23:25conflicts
23:25throughout
23:26this
23:26year
23:26and
23:27how
23:27it
23:27makes
23:28way
23:28for
23:28the
23:28Philippines
23:29this
23:292026
23:30well
23:31first
23:31of all
23:31allow me
23:32to
23:32just
23:33make
23:33a
23:34slight
23:34correction
23:34it's
23:35note
23:35just
23:35Malaysia
23:35that
23:36special
23:36done
23:36a
23:36wonderful
23:37job
23:37it's
23:37actually
23:37the
23:37media
23:38of
23:38Malaysia
23:38that
23:39special
23:39also
23:39done
23:40very
23:40well
23:40and
23:40I
23:40think
23:40you're
23:41parts
23:41of
23:41that
23:41whole
23:42process
23:43now
23:43the
23:43reason
23:44why
23:44I
23:44feel
23:44that
23:45there
23:45ice
23:45a
23:45need
23:46to
23:46I am
23:46that
23:46ice
23:46because
23:47when
23:47we
23:47move
23:48into
23:48the
23:48Philippines
23:49the
23:49media
23:50this
23:50Philippines
23:50ice
23:50much
23:51more
23:51rambunctious
23:52than
23:52the
23:52one
23:53that
23:53we
23:53have
23:53this
23:54Malaysia
23:54or
23:54this
23:54other
23:55parts
23:55of
23:55the
23:56region
23:56and
23:57President
23:58Ferdinand
24:00Marcos
24:00would have
24:01to
24:01convince
24:02the
24:03media
24:04this
24:04the
24:04Philippines
24:05to
24:05gate
24:05the
24:06narrative
24:06right
24:06because
24:07event
24:07although
24:08he/she/it
24:08the
24:08group
24:08chair
24:09of
24:09ASEAN
24:10hey
24:13different
24:14countries
24:15and
24:15member
24:16states
24:16this
24:17order
24:17to
24:17cute
24:17to
24:18the
24:18middle
24:19way
24:20so that
24:20speak
24:21and
24:22I
24:22wish
24:22Philippines
24:23all the
24:23best
24:23boots
24:24that
24:24having
24:24been
24:24said
24:25the
24:25role
24:25of
24:26Malaysia
24:26hasn't
24:26ended
24:26because
24:27Thailand
24:27and
24:28Cambodia
24:28continue
24:29to
24:29pine
24:29for
24:30Malaysia
24:30and
24:31event
24:31the
24:32United
24:32States
24:33role
24:34including
24:34China
24:35Japan
24:35to
24:36form
24:36more
24:37defense
24:38attache
24:39and
24:39peace
24:40observers
24:40to
24:41survey
24:42their
24:42borders
24:42so
24:43this
24:44will
24:44be
24:44a
24:44long
24:44and
24:45ongoing
24:45process
24:46plenty
24:48of
24:48stuff
24:48to
24:48look
24:48forward
24:49to
24:49this
24:49the
24:49coming
24:50days
24:50and
24:50plenty
24:51more
24:51we'd like
24:51to
24:51discuss
24:52boots
24:52that
24:52ice
24:52all
24:52the
24:52time
24:52that
24:53we
24:53have
24:53with
24:54Professor
24:54Farr
24:55thank you
24:55so
24:55much
24:55that
24:56ice
24:56Professor
24:56Farr
24:56King
24:57Bang
24:57Professor
24:57of
24:57ASEAN
24:57Studies
24:58International
24:58Islamic
24:59University
24:59Malaysia
24:59thank you
25:00you
25:00so
25:00much
25:00Professor
25:01for
25:01joining
25:01us
25:01today
25:02to
25:02tell
25:02us
25:03a
25:03little
25:03beet
25:03about
25:03what
25:03we
25:03can
25:03expect
25:04from
25:04ASEAN
25:05some
25:05of
25:05the
25:05challenges
25:05and
25:06opportunities
25:06that
25:07we
25:07can
25:07expect
25:08this
25:08the
25:08coming
25:08days
25:08that
25:09ice
25:09all
25:09we will
25:09see you
25:10again
25:10this
25:10the
25:11coming
25:11days
25:11us
25:11we
25:11provide
25:12updates
25:13on
25:13the
25:1347th
25:14ASEAN
25:14Summit
25:15at
25:15the
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