00:00We'll do what we always do.
00:01We'll start at the beginning.
00:02How did you get into the adult industry?
00:05So I was on a good one, which is having fun, experiencing life.
00:14I had a salon job working behind a chair, cosmetologist.
00:20Really fun, but very routine.
00:25You had your same clients.
00:26You woke up.
00:27You went to work.
00:28What did you do specifically?
00:30I have my cosmetology license, and then I have my barbering license.
00:34So I did women's cuts, women's colors, men's cuts, pretty much everything.
00:41Okay, so hair.
00:42Hair, yeah.
00:43Basically, anything that has to do with hair, I did it.
00:45But it was so—I knew what I was doing every day, and I didn't love that.
00:52I wanted something crazy.
00:53I wanted to do more, but I loved making people feel good about themselves.
00:56And I knew that as soon as that person was leaving my chair, that they felt better about
01:00themselves, whether it was confidence or just—they felt better when they left.
01:04So I always wanted to have some sort of career in making people feel good about themselves.
01:10I love that.
01:11And then suddenly, I'm in porn, making people feel even better about themselves.
01:17But it's kind of like a two-part thing, I guess.
01:20I saw Riley Reid on my Instagram, like, for you page or whatever—explore page.
01:28I was like, oh my god, this girl's so cute.
01:29Didn't know what a porn star—I mean, I knew porn stars existed, but I didn't know she was a porn star.
01:33So I called her on one of her things, and I was like, like, shit, you're hot.
01:37And she ended up messaging me and was like, you're not real.
01:41You're a catfish.
01:42And I was like—
01:43When was this?
01:472018, I think.
01:48I mean, so she was big by then.
01:51Yeah, I'd say, like, early—or end of 2017, early 2018.
01:56Okay.
01:56Probably.
01:58And she was like, you're not real.
01:59Send a picture with a shoe on your head so I could tell you're not a catfish.
02:02And I was like, the fuck?
02:04Who is this girl?
02:05And then my ex-boyfriend was like, oh my god, you don't know who that is?
02:09That's Riley Reid.
02:10Like, you're talking to, like, a famous porn star.
02:12And I was like, yeah, sure, okay.
02:14And then I went to go send a picture with a shoe on my head.
02:16And by the time I went to send a picture with a shoe on my head, she had a shoe on her head.
02:21And I was like, who the fuck is this?
02:23What is happening?
02:24Am I just making my best friend?
02:25Like, what?
02:26This is weird.
02:27And then she realized I was real.
02:28And she's like, you're so cute.
02:30And I was like, you're so cute.
02:31She's like, my birthday party is in LA.
02:33You should come.
02:34And I was like, uh, I just graduated high school and I am broke as shit.
02:39Don't know how that's going to work.
02:40So then I was talking to one of my other friends who had a premium Snapchat.
02:45She was like, yeah, you just send dudes, like, pictures of your feet or your tits.
02:48And, like, they'll send you money for it.
02:50I was like, okay.
02:52So then I started doing that and very quickly realized that you can make money off Snapchat at a rapid pace.
02:59Especially during, like, that time, like, 2018.
03:02Yeah, that's when, like, Fan Centro was like, yeah.
03:04That was, like, popping.
03:05Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:06So I did that.
03:08And then I ended up going to her birthday party.
03:10And then, so it was like, here's a little bit of porn.
03:13And then here's porn.
03:15Yeah.
03:15I went there and I was like, this is actually porn.
03:17What I was doing was not porn.
03:18That was just, like, a girl trying to get some fucking money.
03:21Yeah.
03:21Like, this is crazy.
03:23So I ended up going to her birthday party.
03:25Everything was great.
03:26I was like, holy shit, she's so fun.
03:28Came back home.
03:29I was still working my salon job.
03:31And then, of course, for a little extra money, doing my thing on my premium Snapchat.
03:36And then her birthday rolls around again and was like, hey, come to my birthday party again.
03:42And at this point, and I was starting to dabble in the OnlyFans.
03:45That's when it was starting to pop off, like, 2019-ish.
03:48So now I had my premium Snapchat and my OnlyFans.
03:52So I was like, yeah, I'm coming.
03:53Hell yeah.
03:54So I ended up flying out for her birthday again.
03:56And this time I stayed a little bit and was like, do I want to move out here?
04:00This seems fun.
04:02And talked to her about it all.
04:03And she was like, well, you love what you do now.
04:06So, like, it's up to you.
04:07Like, I'm not going to tell you this is the way to go.
04:09Like, you have to make your own decisions.
04:11I was like, okay.
04:12So I was like, I'm not going to go with full porn.
04:15I don't think I want to do it.
04:16Like, I'm having fun with what I'm doing.
04:18My parents will fucking kill me.
04:20I'm not going to do that.
04:21Did your parents know you were doing, like, the Snapchat OnlyFans thing?
04:24Yeah.
04:25Okay.
04:25They did.
04:28Here we go again, bouncing around.
04:30In high school, I sent my sister's ex-boyfriend a nude.
04:39Didn't know it was her boyfriend.
04:40And my sister found it on her boyfriend's phone and sent it to my mom and dad.
04:46And that's how they found out I was going to be a whore.
04:51My sister released that information.
04:55But also, like, that on her boyfriend's part, not mine.
04:58I didn't know.
04:58I thought it was just user 15789 wanting a picture of my tits.
05:04How did I know?
05:05Oh, so he was on your Snapchat.
05:06Yes.
05:07Oh, I thought, like, you knew him from school or something.
05:11No.
05:12Oh.
05:13How was I supposed to know?
05:14Yeah.
05:15That wasn't my fault.
05:16That was his fault.
05:17Oh.
05:18But I was the bad guy.
05:19And they still continued to date after.
05:21Wow.
05:22For a little bit.
05:22Did he know that you were her sister?
05:25Yeah.
05:25He was, like, at family dinners.
05:27Oh, that's weird.
05:29And I thought I was just, like, sending user 5789 a picture of my tits.
05:34Oh, my God.
05:35Oh, that's weird.
05:36It's, like, a small world sometimes.
05:38Yeah.
05:39But it's not.
05:39It is.
05:41Oh, my God.
05:41So that whole thing happened.
05:44Then I go back home after the second birthday party stayed for a little bit.
05:48Told my mom.
05:49I was like, yeah, I'm going to do porn.
05:50She was like, no, you're not.
05:52And I was like, yeah, I'm going to do it.
05:54I'm going to get a U-Haul tomorrow.
05:55Pack everything I have in a U-Haul and I'm going to drive to California.
05:58She was like, absolutely not.
06:00Like, me and your dad will never talk to you again.
06:01I was like, all right.
06:02That's fine.
06:03I went and got the U-Haul.
06:05Packed everything I had and drove from Pittsburgh to California.
06:10Wow.
06:10Yeah.
06:11And I rented a room in, like, a shared Airbnb.
06:14Mm-hmm.
06:15Ooh.
06:17Rough.
06:17Really rough.
06:18I stayed there till, like, two weeks-ish.
06:22And then I was like, yeah, I'm going broke staying at this Airbnb.
06:24And I want to put money down for an apartment.
06:27I was like, this isn't working anymore.
06:29So then I ended up staying out of my car slash U-Haul that I had rented out.
06:34So I'm, like, waking up in the morning, putting on my clothes in the U-Haul, sleeping in my car.
06:38And then finally, I found a, like, really shitty apartment that would take me.
06:44Yeah.
06:44And started.
06:47And then COVID happened.
06:48And I was like, fuck.
06:50I want to-
06:50Did you get an agent?
06:51Or were you just, like, self-booking?
06:52I was just doing my OnlyFans and premium Snapchat.
06:56And then COVID happened.
06:57And I literally, a week or two before everything fully shut down, had my first meeting with Spiegler.
07:02Oh, my God.
07:03I was like, I'm ready.
07:04I'm going to do it.
07:05And Spiegler's like, okay, perfect.
07:07We're going to start booking things.
07:08Like, we'll get the ball rolling.
07:10COVID happened.
07:11Crickets.
07:12And I was like, it's a sign.
07:14Maybe I wasn't supposed to go all in.
07:17And I wasn't supposed to book and shoot crazy pornos.
07:20So I took a step back.
07:21Still did my OnlyFans, premium Snapchat.
07:24And I was like, no.
07:25I don't feel like a porn star unless I'm doing X, Y, and Z.
07:29Like, I feel like these girls won't give me the cred I am.
07:35One, if I'm not doing all, working for everyone.
07:39So I was like, no, I'm going to do it.
07:41Spiegler's like, okay, let's do it.
07:43And then my first scene actually ended up being with browsers.
07:46My first ever porno was with browsers.
07:49So full circle to be contracted when that was my first scene.
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