00:00So one thing I do want to talk about before we get into your backstory and everything, just because we're fresh off of it, at least now.
00:06I mean, if you're a Patreon member and you're watching live, this will make sense to you in the moment.
00:12If you're not and you're watching this when it's released, it'll be weeks later.
00:16So maybe it's old news, but to us, it's new news.
00:19So we're talking about it now.
00:21So Anora swept the Oscars last night.
00:24Yes.
00:24Which we're in the sex work community very excited about.
00:28So Anora was directed by Sean Baker, who has always been very much an ally of the sex work community.
00:35His movies are indie, and a lot of them revolve around the adult industry and sex work.
00:41And what was really great about Anora winning lead actress Best Editing, Best Screenplay, and Best Picture, which is amazing.
00:51Basically everything.
00:52And Best Directing.
00:53Oh my gosh, can't forget that.
00:54Was the fact that not only did Sean Baker go up on stage and thank the sex work community and thank them for their stories and call himself an ally, so did the lead actress who won.
01:10Who's adorable.
01:11Who's so adorable.
01:12Everyone across paths.
01:13Yeah, I mean, how much of an ally are you?
01:16Mainstream acting, come over here.
01:18Her name's Mickey.
01:20I'm blanking on her last name now.
01:22I just had it.
01:22I know.
01:23I think it's two M's.
01:24It is.
01:24It's like Mickey something.
01:26Sorry.
01:27Mickey Madison.
01:28Yeah.
01:28That sounds like a poor name, kind of, to be honest.
01:32Come on, Mickey.
01:33Come on over.
01:34Come on over.
01:35But for me, like, that was really cool because, you know, I mean, we've always been like the black sheep of the entertainment industry, right?
01:44Like porn, like we've always been looked down upon by Hollywood.
01:48And to see, like, to be legitimized and recognized on the stage at the Oscars, the biggest night in Hollywood, like for me, I felt like it was a really big step.
01:59Like, what do you think about that?
02:00I feel like we always joke and say that AVN's like the porn Oscars.
02:04So, like, actually be getting, like, talked about at the Oscars.
02:08It's like, oh, that's a real little goosebump moment.
02:11Okay, go us.
02:12Yeah.
02:13I mean, do you think that, like, sex work is starting to be recognized as real work?
02:20Like, are we becoming more mainstream?
02:22Absolutely.
02:22But I think a lot of it is, like, getting glorified still that it's super easy and, like, I feel like this could get me canceled.
02:33But the OnlyFans Only girls kind of ruin the mainstream porn girls image because they're like, oh, I imply I don't show anything, which is fine.
02:45Do your imply, but don't promote that you're doing full-blown sex work because that's not risky modeling.
02:51Shut up.
02:53So, actually, that brings up an interesting question that somebody asked me, and I actually didn't know how to answer that.
03:00What is sex work specifically?
03:03I feel like being completely vulnerable and being your truest self, naked and afraid on the internet, that is sex work.
03:12So, for you, it sounds like it means that when you're doing something that you're kind of, like, you're taking chances, right?
03:19Going all in.
03:20Yeah.
03:20Absolutely.
03:20You're risking the potential for stigma that'll follow you around for the rest of your life.
03:26Yep.
03:28Relationships that'll be difficult to enter.
03:31Losing relationships, even.
03:33Losing relationships, being ostracized from society, from your family, from friends.
03:37So, for you, like, that's what, like, being in sex work means.
03:40Sex work is going all in.
03:40Absolutely.
03:41Absolutely.
03:42Interesting.
03:43Because I was trying to define it by, like, what specifically do you do, right?
03:46Like, does it mean you're modeling naked?
03:49Does it mean you're showing your vagina?
03:52Does it mean you're showing your butthole?
03:54Does it mean you're masturbating?
03:55Like, so many.
03:58But for you, it's, like, the risk that you take, right?
04:00Yeah, the risk.
04:01Like, the, yeah, like, what the results are in terms of what comes after.
04:08That makes sense.
04:09I never looked at it that way, but that makes sense.
04:11Now I'm looking at it your way, and I'm like, wait, am I saying it wrong?
04:14But no.
04:14Well, I do it as in the risk.
04:17That's what makes me a sex worker, is I'm risky.
04:19And I do it all.
04:21Yeah.
04:21Except for a gangbang.
04:22I haven't done that yet.
04:23Oh.
04:24Yet.
04:24But you did a blowbang.
04:26Yeah, I did.
04:26Which you won an AVN award for.
04:28I did, I did.
04:29Which was awesome to see you go up on stage.
04:32And I loved your quote at the end where you thanked your boyfriend.
04:36For letting me suck dick on the internet.
04:38Shout out to you, babe.
04:39Thank you again.
04:40And you were actually, you were quoted again later on.
04:45Oh, yeah, by Anna.
04:46Yeah.
04:47She's like, and like Ryan said, thanks to my boyfriend.
04:50And I'm like, yes, thank you, boyfriends.
04:53Because it's hard.
04:53These boys that we call our boyfriends, like, I've had definitely my fair share of boyfriends
04:59that later on are like, me or your job.
05:01And I'm like, my job?
05:04Yeah.
05:04What do you mean?
05:05Yeah.
05:05This isn't even in the same category.
05:07Obviously, my job.
05:08Yeah.
05:09Love you.
05:09Bye.
05:10What makes you decide to pick your job first?
05:13Because at the end of the day, my job's never going to make me choose between the two.
05:19Like, I could have both, I guess.
05:23And if I don't have the boyfriend, I'll still be able to take care of myself with my job.
05:28Where if I only have my boyfriend, guess what?
05:30I'm not going to be able to take care of myself financially.
05:32Yeah.
05:33Then you're very much reliant on him.
05:34Exactly.
05:35No one wants to be reliant on a person.
05:37Well, you should never be reliant on a person.
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