00:00Our policy on Palestine issue as well as many other issues is actually coming from our constitution.
00:08The first preamble, the first sentence actually said that independence is the ineligible right of all countries.
00:18So independence issue, colonialism issue is actually what really part of our thinking.
00:26So we support these two-state solutions, which also means that Palestinians have the right to be free, to be feared.
00:35Where do you see the role that Indonesia can play in securing peace after the ceasefire has now been agreed?
00:42As everybody sees that we have been invited to a peace talk, actually it's a peacemaking stage.
00:54And we see a lot of countries to be part of that peacemaking.
01:00So Indonesia is there, so it means our contribution is there, is real.
01:05And we can even go further to provide peacekeepers.
01:10The president has talked about 20,000 peacekeepers?
01:13Yeah.
01:14Is that a concrete plan?
01:15Yeah, if it's required, you know, we are ready.
01:20We have to look at the track record, the history.
01:25Indonesia has sent peacekeepers since 1952.
01:29It shows that we have a real commitment.
01:32Now, since 1952 until today, we have sent somewhere around 60,000 peacekeepers around the world.
01:42And now we are one of the top 10 providers of peacekeepers around the world.
01:48So we have the numbers, we have the tools, and it just depends on what are the political decisions at the regional level, at the global level.
01:59Then if they decided, alright, countries need to bring peacekeepers, then, you know, we are ready to bring.
02:07The president also floated the idea of relocating refugees, Palestinians that could come to Indonesia on an island.
02:16Is that realistic?
02:17No, that's a discussion, I think, in the past.
02:19It should be part of the general discussions.
02:21Indonesia, of course, respect the right of return of all Palestinians.
02:27So I think any movement of Palestinian people should be based on the agreement or based on international law.
02:37Now, some observers have said Indonesia has shifted a bit more towards the United States.
02:41We've seen the president talking to President Trump on a summit in Egypt on very friendly terms, but also on the Palestinian question.
02:49On the other hand, you have just announced that you want to buy fighter jets from China.
02:54Where does Indonesia stand at the moment in the Chinese-US rivalry?
02:59U.S. and China separately, they have signed a treaty of amity and cooperation with ASEAN.
03:06So there is legal obligations by the U.S. and by China towards Southeast Asian countries, including Indonesia, to remain peaceful to us.
03:18So I think that is the key issue.
03:20We hope that the U.S. and China keep the general communications, keep talking among themselves.
03:29They need to manage their competitions so that they will not going to be escalated into something that is much more untenable in the future.
03:43So I hope that the U.S. and China has expanded into this world.
03:44So, I hope to keep the general communications, I hope to see you on the next day.
03:48So back to this one, I hope to see you in the next week.
03:50So I hope to see you tomorrow.
03:52I hope you are the person who will not participate and enter in the future.
03:55I hope you are the person who will not participate in this way.
03:57So we're really encouraging you to see you at the same time in the future.
03:59So you will be the person who is willing to stay in the future.
04:00I hope you will not participate in this year.
04:01So we'll be the person who will be the person Ichetis and I should have that one or two more speak for you.
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