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Join us as Dr. Karlo Queaño, Chief Geologist of the DENR-Mines and Geosciences Bureau, and Josephine Aleta, Supervising Geologist of DENR-MGB Region 7, explain the causes of the sinkholes in Bogo City following the September 30 earthquake. Learn about the science behind these ground movements, the risks they pose to residents, and the government’s ongoing response to ensure public safety.
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01:29Today, we take a closer look at the stories shaping our communities and our future, going past the surface, the context, the impact, and the conversations that matter.
01:43In every episode, we move past what's trending and examine what the headlines truly mean for everyday Filipinos.
01:51I'm Mildred Galarpe.
01:53And I'm DJ Moises.
01:54Today on Beyond the Headlines, we focus on the sinkholes that have appeared in Bugo City and San Rimeo and the other northern towns following the powerful earthquake that struck northern Cebu on September 30, 2025.
02:10The sudden ground collapses have raised concerns among residents and local officials, prompting calls for a thorough geological assessment and immediate safety measures.
02:22To help us understand what's happening and what might come next, we're joined by Dr. Carlo Cuenio, chief geologist at the DENR Mines and Geosciences Bureau,
02:35and Josephine Aleta, supervising geologist from DENR MGB Region 7.
02:41They will shed light on the causes of sinkholes, the potential risks to nearby communities, and the actions being taken to monitor and mitigate further geological hazards in the area.
02:55Well, we're still reaching out to Dr. Cuenio.
03:02Ano lang ko sa gidaghan nun?
03:06Yes.
03:07Why 70?
03:09Unsa man ka, how big ang ilang na monitor, or unsa po ang pinakagamay, or ang pinakadako?
03:15And are they interconnected?
03:17Potentially, no?
03:18O, kung ano ba saad ka ng, can we say nga, despite the aftershocks, mo na ni sila, or mo continue pa ni sila, o ang collapse?
03:27Saan na siya?
03:28Another thing is, with the Bermans, nga nai, Baguio and everything,
03:36And rain.
03:36And rain, how will this, how will this kung an sa safety sa atong sinkholes?
03:45And is there a required distance from the existing sinkholes that should require no build or evacuation also?
03:59Okay, I think Dr. Carlo is now on the line.
04:04Dr. Cuenio, good afternoon.
04:08Good afternoon po.
04:09Hi, there you go.
04:10So, thank you for, you know, thank you for your time in joining us this afternoon.
04:15Just, we have a few questions regarding the existence of sinkholes.
04:22Yes po.
04:23Itong mga sinkholes in Northern Cebu, is this something normal?
04:28Or is 70 an average number?
04:32Or are we above?
04:34Or under normal?
04:35Well, ito po po, when you talk about normal po, geologically, somehow it's normal in the sense po, sinkholes develop in limestone areas, lalo na kung flat yung terrain po.
04:48So, unfortunately, many areas in Cebu, not just for Northern Cebu, but as well as the western and eastern flank of Cebu, and even the southern part, are underlined po ng limestone.
05:02Kaya, even before the earthquake, may mga sinkholes na po na-identify ang DNR mines and geosciences bureau po.
05:09So, geologically, it's normal.
05:11But as to the number of sinkholes in Northern Cebu right after the earthquake, this shows na yung the limestone composition of the Cebu soil talaga?
05:23Yes po.
05:24Kasi po yung sinkholes po, nade-develop po yan sa mga limestone nga po.
05:28Kasi ang limestone, they are actually soluble.
05:30Nade-dissolve po siya unti-unti ng tubig ulan, which is slightly acidic.
05:34So, kung may fracture po tayo sa surface, dun papasok yung tubig, tapos magigipong kapapalakin yung mga butas sa ilalim.
05:42Kaya nga po tayo mga underground caves.
05:44And eventually, kapag hindi na na-support yung ibabaw, magigipong magko-collapse and it becomes sinkhole.
05:50In fact nga po, even before the earthquake, we have identified hundreds of sinkholes sa buong Cebu po.
05:57When you said, Doc, about fractures, does this also mean that the fractures were created or were they triggered by the earthquake?
06:11Actually, fractures can be triggered by earthquakes.
06:15But remember, especially for the Philippines, it's quite normal for rocks to be fractured because we are in a seismically active area.
06:24So, we experience a lot of earthquakes.
06:28So, of course, there are situations that it's not just about earthquakes, earthquakes that causes fractures.
06:33So, that's the reason why for Cebu, when you have a relatively flat terrain, then it's underlined by limestone and if the limestone is fractured,
06:42then it's very prone to what we call sinkhole formation and eventual, of course, ground subsidence.
06:48And then you've mentioned, but just to also manage perception from the general public,
06:53you've mentioned that even before the earthquake, there were already sinkholes that were discovered.
07:01Actually, it's more than 100 sinkholes identified.
07:04We're not just complete for assessing the inventory of sinkholes all throughout Cebu,
07:10but we have done a significant work already in the southern half of Cebu.
07:16And we've also started in northern Cebu even before the earthquakes.
07:21So, the maps that are, which we call car subsidence maps,
07:27we have already available there.
07:29And we have already also relayed the reports to the LGUs concerned.
07:34So, given what you are seeing ba, based on the ongoing assessment,
07:39not just in the northern part of Cebu, but the entire province,
07:45are we seeing a pattern as of today that a lot of them are surfacing from the north?
07:53Or is it insufficient data for us to make a conclusion?
07:59Actually po, the trend right now is that it's actually just in the limestone area.
08:03So, there's no some sort of a bias if it's distributed in the north or if it's distributed in the south.
08:09In the first place, we are not yet done with the inventory of all the sinkholes in the northern part.
08:14But what is very, very clear is that when you talk about sinkhole formation in Cebu,
08:19not just in Cebu, but also in Bohol, as well in Negros,
08:22or in other areas in the Philippines that are underlined by limestone,
08:26especially if these limestone are relatively young or not so compacted,
08:29then sinkhole is quite a common, it's becoming a common geological feature.
08:37With the kind of composition, soil composition in Cebu or even the Philippines,
08:43how safe then are high-rise buildings?
08:47Actually po, when you talk about sinkholes, which is a very good question,
08:50because when you have underground caves or butas or caverns or vugs,
08:56what engineers do is that they implement what we call grouting.
09:02Grouting is so that they fill in the void to avoid or to minimize ground subsidence or eventual ground collapse.
09:11So there are some engineering measures to actually mitigate that kind of problem.
09:17The problem though is for the small entities or mga like for houses.
09:24Kasi nga, siyempre, grouting is not cheap.
09:27It's very, very expensive.
09:28And that's the reason why it's important to map out all these sinkholes,
09:31to map out all those caverns or underground caves.
09:34And as much as possible, we avoid these areas for construction po.
09:39And then going back to the northbound,
09:43the question is in the context of whether there are certain places that are more prone compared to the others.
09:51So if I'm going to look at the breakdown of the 70 new sinkholes that are found in northern Cebu,
09:59Bugo, which is the epicenter, has actually 16.
10:03And then Sanrem, which is not the epicenter,
10:06actually has the highest number, which is 40.
10:11Apo.
10:11So as I have said po, kasing nga, ho, it's not just the earthquake.
10:14Earthquake is a triggering mechanism po,
10:17to cause the ground collapse and the formation of the sinkhole.
10:20But this is just one of the mechanisms po.
10:23So it doesn't have to have, you don't actually need an earthquake really to form a sinkhole.
10:28But of course, the earthquake could hasten the process.
10:33When you have already an existing vagues or cavities underneath, even before the earthquake,
10:39and if the earthquake comes, then that could cause the eventual collapse.
10:43So it would hasten the process.
10:46And then given the disparity then of the number, for the lack of a better word,
10:51can we say that San Remigio is an area of focus compared to that of Bugo in the context of sinkholes?
10:59Can you repeat the question?
11:01I could hardly hear it from my end.
11:03Sorry.
11:03Given the difference in terms of the number of sinkholes that were found after the earthquake,
11:09can we already say that San Remigio is an area of focus in the context of sinkhole compared to locations such as Bugo?
11:20I would not say that as early as.
11:23Because first of all, we need to know what is in the subsurface.
11:26And that's the reason why the Mines and Geosciences Bureau of the DNR is also conducting what we call a geophysical survey
11:33or a ground, specifically ground penetrating radar, to identify these cavities below the surface.
11:41So these cavities are very important so that these are areas that would have that potential to develop these sinkholes
11:48and eventual ground subsidence.
11:49Okay, now I think in San Remigio, I know MGB and DNR, are you done with the assessment now for the province of Cebu?
12:05Not yet.
12:06In fact, we sent another team because you're the first team.
12:09So we brought another team and so far, they have actually identified, this new team identified 24 new sinkholes in Bogositi and San Remigio.
12:22It's not just about the sinkholes, but we're also identifying, together with the females, the earthquake-induced landslides
12:29because these kind of landslides can be remobilized in the form of rain-induced landslides,
12:34especially when another weather disturbance comes in.
12:37Yes. In relation to that statement, Doc, is sa Vermont, sa Cebu, dito talaga, I mean, dito yung most of the typhoons napapasok
12:50the last quarter of the year.
12:54So how, ano yung relationship ng weather disturbance, I mean, storms for that matter,
13:00and the existing sinkholes and yung mga earthquake-induced landslides?
13:06Actually po, in relation to the weather disturbance, ano po, kung pababa siya, I'm not so confident about that
13:14because what happened right now is because of the climate change, it's really difficult right now
13:18to forecast where the weather disturbance or a typhoon would be crossing.
13:25Ano po, but kung yung sama earthquake na, that's the reason why we are very concerned of that.
13:30It's not just about the Cebu, but all other parts of the Philippines because there are a lot of unstable areas
13:36that we have identified that need attention regardless if this is earthquake-induced or not.
13:42So, of course, we want to focus on the efforts for Cebu and Davao because at this point in time,
13:48these are the populations that really need the assistance because, obviously,
13:53it will be a cascading hazard, right, from earthquake and then when you have weather disturbance
13:58that could also hasten, might hasten the dissolution process.
14:02Yes.
14:02So, ganun po.
14:03So, that's why we have a team right now in Cebu to assist the local government units po.
14:10And then, what are we advising the houses that are near these sinkholes?
14:19Yes, po.
14:19Well, first of all, they have to monitor their area.
14:25One, there are indications of a possible ground subsidence and sinkhole development.
14:30If they see their flooring, parang they're developing some depression, and then they see their walls tilting
14:37and even the trees tilting, even though that their ground is relatively flat,
14:43then that can be an indication that there might be some sort of a set of cavities doon po sa ilalim.
14:49And that is a very good indication of sinkhole.
14:52Also, during rain, pagmay rains, if there are rains, and if they see some ponded areas,
14:57that can also indicate some depression where there are potential sinkholes.
15:02So, as much as possible, if you see that, then they have to really inform the DNR Minds and Geosciences Bureau
15:10to check on their side.
15:12But, of course, when they see a sinkhole, let's just not construct on a sinkhole
15:17and do not throw trash in the sinkhole or even fill in the sinkholes.
15:22How about distance from the existing sinkhole?
15:27Safe.
15:27Yeah.
15:28Ano yung safe zone from existing sinkholes for public to room around or to construct new houses or buildings?
15:36Ano yung safe distance?
15:38Whether small or big sinkholes?
15:41Okay.
15:42We're looking, it's not just about houses.
15:44Kasi depende sa structure na yan.
15:46Like for light structures, what we are recommending right now,
15:49okay, when I say light structures, mga one-story, yung mga bahay, basically, you know,
15:54it's 10 meters from the edge of the deformation or ground of instability.
16:00When I say that, kasi you can have a sinkhole and then immediately beside it would be some cracks.
16:07Diba?
16:08Pwede ko kasi may fractures or some sort of a depression.
16:11Yung edge ng depression or cracks, then you measure about 10 meters.
16:16That is the current buffer zone that we are putting right now.
16:18Okay.
16:19And then, Doc, how, like,
16:23Feebocs earlier explained to us si Dr. Bakulkul
16:27that continue pa talaga yung aftershocks in the next three months after the quake.
16:33Yes, po.
16:34Kasi yung, it's Feebocs and Mines and Geosensus Bureau
16:38who will give out the report when we can start rehabilitation, constructions, and everything.
16:45Yes, po.
16:46Yes, po.
16:46So, when, when, when is the, do we have a timeline?
16:50Like, when is the safe time for people to start building or your rehabilitation effort?
16:57Actually, po, we are working under the arm of the Office of Civil Defense under the NGMC.
17:02So, the Office of Civil Defense is coordinating all the efforts of the government.
17:07Because when you talk about rehabilitation, recovery, it's a whole government approach.
17:12Kasi nga po, like, for example, when you talk about relocation, you need to identify lots.
17:16But at the same time, there should be a provision for livelihood.
17:20Kasi otherwise, if there's no livelihood, people will just go back.
17:23So, it's not an easy task.
17:25And the MGB, be it, or as well as Feebocs, are not capable of doing that alone.
17:30That's why we are working under the arm of the Office of Civil Defense,
17:34particularly the NGMC or the National Disaster Risk Reduction Management Council, po.
17:38Okay.
17:39Now, at least with the limited knowledge that I have, Doc Ba, the sinkholes, they vary in sizes.
17:47Some are smaller compared to the others.
17:51Can you educate layperson like me, or like us, about what is the technology that's being used
18:00to assess whether the size of the sinkhole is already the size, or this is a sinkhole that is yet to grow bigger?
18:09Yeah.
18:09Or it's a progressing movement.
18:14Maybe I would just start first what a limestone is because many of our kababayan doesn't know.
18:19So, limestone, essentially, is used as a raw material for cement, which Cebu has a lot.
18:25So, kapag namatay, for example, po yung mga coral reefs, we are surrounded by coral reefs,
18:30when they die, and then they get exposed on the surface, they would form a rock called limestone.
18:37So, yun po siya.
18:38And limestone, as I have said, is very prone to dissolution by acidic waters.
18:44So, yung acidic waters, yung rainwater is lightly acidic.
18:47That's why we do have all of this.
18:49Now, in order to identify or to know whether a sinkhole has that capability of growing further,
18:55it is important for us to know what is in the subsurface.
18:59Obviously, we do not see the subsurface, but we can indirectly investigate it by using what we call geophysics.
19:08So, we run an instrument, one of which is the ground-penetrating radar, that allows us to identify these potential cavities or vugs
19:18that could translate or could translate later into a sinkhole and potential ground subsidence.
19:24So, yun po.
19:25So, even with a sinkhole, underneath a sinkhole, there can be additional fractures around it or beneath it,
19:32and that can, again, translate to a bigger sinkhole po.
19:38Okay. Related pa din dyan sa explanation, Doc.
19:41So, pwede ma-explain mo further the process by which ground-shaking dun sa Bugo Bay Fault Earthquake
19:49triggered so many subsidence, do many, yung naglabasan lahat yung mga sinkholes.
19:56Yes, po. Kasi nga, the ground-shaking, which is as a result of that earthquake, a fault movement,
20:03okay, the Bugo Bay Fault, no?
20:05It's already, ano, it's basically just triggered it.
20:09What do I say by triggered?
20:11Kasi dun sa mga areas that already collapsed, obviously, there were cavities before.
20:16Hindi palang siya bumibigay yung sa surface niya.
20:18So, especially if the layer between the cavity o yung butas at saka sa ibabaw ay madipis na,
20:27the more that is actually prone to collapse.
20:29So, ground-shaking can initiate that collapse.
20:33And that's what we see right now, di ba?
20:35So, there are a number of ways of triggering a formation of a sinkhole,
20:39the natural dissolution is one, the enlargement of the cavities,
20:42and of course, the earthquake, which is the ground-shaking.
20:45So, with the aftershocks, like what we experienced last Monday,
20:50there's a magnitude 5.8,
20:53mag-i-influence ba siya on the stability or the growth of more existing sinkholes?
21:01Well, there's that possibility because one shaking event can cause just a fracturing, di ba?
21:06Then another ground-shaking can cause further instability.
21:10Then the third ground-shaking now, third or fourth, whichever, point lang,
21:17is that whenever there's a ground-shaking,
21:21the tendency of that is just to weaken the rock, di ba?
21:24The stability of the surface.
21:26So, eventually, mag-collapse yan kapag there would be succeeding yung mga aftershocks.
21:31But again, that would really depend on the properties ng bato,
21:34and secondly, kung gano'ng kapakapal na titirang bato between dun sa cavity at saka dun sa taas.
21:40Okay, Doc, kasi sabi mo, Cebu is really a limestone, majority is limestone talaga siya.
21:48Are there ongoing assessments or plans to predict where new sinkholes might form
21:54or existing ones that might collapse or might worsen?
22:00Well, at this point in time, in terms of forecasting or identifying exactly when it would happen,
22:06that would be very, very difficult.
22:08Just like an earthquake, we don't know exactly when it would happen,
22:11but we know it's going to happen.
22:14That's the reason why when we do this kind of hazards,
22:17it's important that we cascade the results immediately
22:19and inform them of the potential risk that they face
22:23because we don't exactly know when it's going to happen.
22:28It can be within 3 years, 10 years, or even hundreds of years.
22:32But the point is that other than just telling them their situation,
22:36we also educate them of what to look out for
22:39that indicates the ground subsidence or the ground instability,
22:46which I actually mentioned a while ago.
22:48So, these things would not work if our information is not cascaded to the locals.
22:54So, the locals, the citizens, it's important that they are educated about it.
22:59Yes.
22:59So, how is your office, the Mines and Geoscensus Bureau,
23:03working with LGUs to manage land-use plants,
23:07especially for the affected northern Cebu,
23:12and enforce a rezoning in high-risk areas?
23:15There was also a question.
23:18Who will recommend and who will declare a noble zone?
23:22Should it be the LGU or kayo?
23:25Actually po, lahat naman po na lands ng LGU are required to come up with a comprehensive land use plan,
23:32and then they need to revise it,
23:33and they are also required to utilize different types of geo-hazards maps.
23:37It's not just about sinkhole.
23:39There are a lot of geo-hazards.
23:40We have earthquakes, ground rupture, landslides, and so on and so forth.
23:47So, it's really up for the LGUs to come up with a land use plan,
23:51and with their land use plan,
23:53with using and or maybe superimposing the geo-hazards,
23:56then they can actually seek the comments or the guidance coming from the science agencies,
24:04including FIBOX, as well as the Minds and Geosciences Bureau.
24:08So, from there, we can actually,
24:11it's actually recommended because of the science agencies.
24:15So, at the end of the day, with all of this information,
24:18it's really up for the LGUs to whether to implement it or not.
24:21But, of course, in high-risk areas,
24:24we strongly encourage that they declare an area,
24:30a no-build zone, if it's really necessary,
24:32in the form of ordinance.
24:34Kasi ordinance po, that would make it legal.
24:37Yes.
24:37Like, in the case of San Rimejo,
24:40na ang dami talagang sinkholes.
24:42Majority of them are there.
24:44Yeah, ang big cluster siguro or nandun located.
24:48During ba sa land-use development ng isang LGU,
24:53kinukonsult din ba yung like FIBOX or the Minds and Geosciences Bureau
24:59as to the, you know, saan yung safe and other pa areas?
25:04Yes po.
25:04Well, yes po.
25:06In fact po, we have a formal information education campaign
25:09wherein a set of geologists and GIS,
25:12they go to a particular LGU and provide an IEC
25:17including their risk exposure map.
25:19That is an opportunity for the LGUs
25:21to actually revisit their land-use plan.
25:26So, there are a number of ways of doing it
25:28through our IEC.
25:29But in the same way,
25:30at the same time,
25:31there are some LGUs
25:32who contact the DNR-MGB for assistance.
25:37Ano yung IEC po?
25:38So, ganun po yun.
25:39Ano po?
25:40What is IEC?
25:42Information education campaign.
25:43Okay, sorry.
25:44So, pumupo tayo is I,
25:45at least one day when we go there,
25:47we show them the map,
25:48we show them their exposure,
25:50we tell them what their implication would be.
25:53So, yung mga ating mga disaster managers
25:55at saka yung mga planners po natin,
25:57ang mga LGUs,
25:58they attend,
26:00and then they show their,
26:01from the hazards,
26:03from their understanding of their hazards,
26:05then they now check their land-use.
26:07Kasi nga po,
26:08we are not here for the MGV
26:10as a science agency,
26:11we are not there to actually dictate,
26:13but to guide them.
26:14Yes, understand.
26:15Kasi siyempre,
26:17alam naman po natin,
26:18sila ang mas nakakaintindi
26:20ang pangangailangan
26:21ng kanila mga nasasakupan po.
26:23Okay.
26:24My question actually is,
26:26this time,
26:27closer to home, no?
26:29And then,
26:29I know you've answered this earlier,
26:32but can you elaborate further
26:34about what kind of geotechnical
26:38or subsurface studies
26:40that are required
26:42before putting up
26:44a high-rise building
26:46in Cebu City?
26:48Okay po.
26:49Actually po,
26:50there is a DNR
26:52Administrative Order
26:532000-28.
26:55That administrative order
26:57requires all project proponents,
27:00private or government,
27:02to conduct
27:03an engineering,
27:04geological,
27:05and geohazards assessment
27:06as an additional requirement
27:08for the issuance
27:09of an environmental
27:10compliance certificate.
27:11So we're talking about
27:13big projects here,
27:14for example,
27:14the resorts building.
27:17So if you're able,
27:18so the proponent
27:19would have to
27:20hire a private geologist
27:22to come up with
27:23this kind of assessment
27:24and report,
27:25okay,
27:26so that this report
27:27would now be reviewed
27:28by the Minds and Geosciences Bureau.
27:30The essence of that kind
27:32of administrative order
27:33is to identify
27:36and understand
27:37the physical conditions
27:39that would affect a project.
27:40For example po,
27:41kung flood-prone area,
27:43then you should,
27:44anong gagawin mo
27:45doon sa building mo?
27:46Maybe yung first floor,
27:47yung second floor,
27:48gawin mo nyo lang parking,
27:49tapos doon na lang
27:49kayo sa taas.
27:50If there are sinkholes
27:52in that area,
27:53baka you need actually grouting
27:54so that you can address
27:56that kind of physical conditions.
27:58So there are two things
27:59that we want to address
28:01in an environmental
28:01compliance certificate.
28:03One is,
28:04what is the impact
28:05of the project
28:06doon sa environment?
28:07And in the case
28:08of Dow 2028,
28:09what is the impact
28:11of the physical conditions
28:12on the project itself?
28:14So meron po tayong
28:16ganung batas.
28:16Yeah, so mandatory na pala to.
28:19There's already an
28:19compliance to
28:22for getting an ECC, right?
28:24Yes po.
28:25Yes po.
28:26Doc, may nagtanong,
28:28possible po ba
28:29na magiging underground caves
28:31yung ibang mga sinkholes?
28:33Opo naman.
28:34Opo.
28:35Actually ho,
28:36kaya po tayo may
28:36kuweba sa Palawan,
28:38sa Cebu,
28:39sa Bohol.
28:40It's because of that.
28:41Oho.
28:43Another thing pala,
28:44ang Cebu City,
28:45we're very dependent,
28:47not Metro Cebu,
28:48we're very dependent
28:49on water underground
28:52for our source,
28:53for our, you know,
28:54water supply.
28:55How will the
28:58yung over-extraction
29:00of water,
29:02you know,
29:03further the
29:04contribute to
29:05sinkhole problems?
29:08Actually ma'am,
29:09yung ating
29:10groundwater extraction,
29:11that could also
29:12initiate ground subsidence.
29:13Kung mas mabilis po
29:14ang extraction natin
29:15kaysa replenishment
29:16ng groundwater,
29:17that would cause
29:18ground subsidence din po.
29:20Okay, so that has been
29:22demonstrated elsewhere.
29:23No?
29:24I think, yeah.
29:24But in the same way,
29:25po, siyempre ho,
29:26we have to be also
29:27be careful when our
29:29groundwater is hosted
29:30by limestone.
29:31Because yung,
29:32sinasabi ko nga po,
29:33di ba,
29:34nadi-dissolve siya
29:34ng rainwater,
29:36so medyo malalaki-laki
29:37yung butas niya.
29:37So, in terms of the way
29:39it filters water,
29:40hindi siya as effective
29:42as other types of rocks.
29:44So that's why
29:45we have to be very careful
29:47when we manage water there.
29:49Kaya nga,
29:49huwag tayo magtatapo
29:50ng basura,
29:51mga ganyan, no?
29:52And we have to be
29:53very careful with
29:54what we are draining.
29:55Doon sa surface
29:58at papunta sa ilalim
29:59because limestone aquifers
30:01or nag-host ng groundwater
30:04is very much prone
30:06to contamination.
30:07Yun.
30:07So,
30:09yung,
30:10it's very concerning
30:11if households,
30:13hindi
30:13yung,
30:15yung
30:15households na,
30:17yung bottomless
30:18septic tanks.
30:19Yes, that's why.
30:20Ito talagang pupunta
30:21dun sa aquifer.
30:22So, like drips.
30:23Yeah, so.
30:25Oho,
30:26yun po.
30:27So,
30:28my,
30:29my next question,
30:30doc,
30:30has something to do
30:31still with
30:32kanang sky rise.
30:33And the context
30:34of the question
30:34is,
30:35and the context
30:37of the question
30:38is really on
30:39educating the viewers,
30:41no?
30:41Because we can also
30:42see that
30:43Cebu skylines,
30:44they're expanding
30:45towards
30:47reclaimed areas,
30:49no?
30:49Like south road
30:50properties, no?
30:51And so,
30:52from a
30:53geological
30:55standpoint,
30:56how different
30:57are the risks,
30:58no?
30:59Compared to
31:00limestone
31:01zones, no?
31:02When they are
31:03building in
31:04reclaimed areas.
31:06Aha.
31:07That's a very
31:07challenging
31:09question,
31:10I would say,
31:10because it really
31:11depends on how
31:12you reclaim it
31:13as well.
31:13Because it's not
31:14just a matter
31:15of geological,
31:16but you have
31:17to also be
31:18sensitive about
31:18the needs
31:19of the province
31:20or the LGUs,
31:21especially in
31:22a fast-growing
31:23community
31:25or very fast
31:26unpopulation
31:27there are
31:28situations that
31:29you really need
31:29to expand.
31:30So that's the
31:31reason why
31:31in terms of
31:32reclamation,
31:34we have to
31:35undergo a series
31:36of assessments
31:38and that would
31:39be part of
31:39the issuance
31:40of the ECC.
31:41So the ECC
31:42process po.
31:43Kaya nga,
31:44it's not as
31:45easy,
31:45it's not
31:46something that's
31:47easy to
31:48answer
31:50because
31:50every project
31:51may have
31:52an environmental
31:53impact.
31:54Example,
31:54when we talk
31:55about Cebu,
31:56I know you
31:57are very sensitive,
31:58Cebu is known
31:59also as dive
32:00sites,
32:01di ba po?
32:01Sa mga coral reefs,
32:02maganyan.
32:03Yan po yung mga ganyan.
32:05Pero when we do
32:05have this kind
32:06of development,
32:07it can affect
32:07the coral reefs.
32:09That's why
32:09we need to
32:11conduct nga yung
32:12mga cost-benefit
32:13analysis,
32:14impact,
32:15and everything
32:15to sa tourism.
32:16So it's more
32:17of a holistic
32:18approach po yan.
32:19So it's not
32:20just a matter
32:20of a geological
32:21perspective.
32:22Okay.
32:23Doc,
32:23I think it's
32:24a challenging
32:24question.
32:25Yes.
32:26How safe
32:27is limestone
32:29as a filling
32:30material
32:31for a
32:33reclamation
32:33project?
32:35Filling
32:36material?
32:37Yes.
32:37Yun yung ginagamit
32:38na finifil.
32:40Kasi sabi mo,
32:41limestone is
32:42kind of
32:42not stable.
32:43Soluble siya,
32:44di ba?
32:44In other
32:47countries,
32:47traditionally,
32:49the ideal
32:50way of doing
32:50it,
32:51for example,
32:52sabihin natin
32:52sa isang area,
32:54is yung
32:54reclamation
32:55natin na material
32:55kukunin dun sa
32:56dagat,
32:57sa malayong
32:57parte ng
32:57dagat.
32:58The reason
32:59for that
33:00is that
33:00if we put
33:01in materials
33:02that are
33:03different
33:04ang composition
33:05nya doon
33:05sa surroundings,
33:06it can alter
33:08the chemistry.
33:09And altering
33:10the chemistry
33:10of the water
33:11can have
33:12an impact
33:12on the
33:13biodiversity
33:13or ecosystem.
33:14So yun yung
33:15ideal.
33:16But
33:16limestone
33:17as a
33:18reclamation
33:20material
33:21is not
33:23as appropriate
33:24as other
33:26kinds of
33:27rocks.
33:28So that's
33:28the reason
33:28why
33:29reclamation,
33:29although I
33:30believe
33:30that reclamation,
33:32yung mga
33:32engineers naman,
33:33I'm sure
33:34they're doing
33:34geotechnical studies.
33:36But as
33:36an engineer,
33:37they should
33:37also understand
33:39how the
33:42substrate
33:43or reclamation
33:44would react
33:45in the future.
33:46Kasi
33:46sa geotechnical
33:48nag-test tayo
33:48ng bato.
33:49So pag-test
33:50ng bato,
33:50yun yung
33:51results
33:52natin
33:52ngayon.
33:52But in
33:53the future,
33:54pwede
33:54mag-deteriorate
33:55yung
33:56bato.
33:56So yung
33:59geotechnical
33:59result may
34:00not be
34:01applicable
34:02anymore.
34:03But I
34:03believe
34:04that the
34:05engineers
34:05and
34:05scientists
34:06are actually
34:06working
34:07together.
34:08So may
34:08limitations
34:09di naman
34:09siguro
34:10yung
34:10why
34:11they're
34:11using
34:11limestone.
34:12I do
34:12not
34:12know.
34:12I'm not
34:13in
34:15authority
34:15to say
34:16bakit
34:17limestone
34:18ginamit
34:18inyo.
34:19I do
34:19not
34:19know.
34:19But to
34:20be realistic
34:21about it,
34:22when we
34:22talk about
34:23science,
34:24limestone
34:24as a
34:25reclamation
34:25material
34:26is not
34:27as good
34:28as other
34:28types
34:29of rocks.
34:30Okay.
34:31So,
34:32well,
34:33as to
34:33its stability
34:34and everything
34:34that has
34:35science
34:36will answer
34:36that.
34:37But,
34:37ito yung
34:39like,
34:41if you
34:42use the
34:42limestone,
34:43kasi
34:43nagiging
34:44alien siya
34:45dun sa
34:45area.
34:48Kasi
34:48tubig yun,
34:48diba?
34:48Tubig-dagat.
34:50Although
34:50limestone
34:51is parang
34:52dagat din
34:52sila galing
34:53kasi
34:53they're
34:54dead
34:54corals
34:55na nag-form
34:55ng ganun.
34:56But,
34:57hindi
34:58masyadong
34:59na-explain
34:59yung
35:00effect
35:00on the
35:01biodiversity
35:02ng isang
35:03area.
35:04Yes,
35:04po.
35:04Pero,
35:05again po,
35:05ma'am,
35:06let me
35:06also add,
35:07in many
35:09cases,
35:10when they
35:11encounter
35:11kahit
35:11reclaimed
35:12area,
35:13yung
35:13mga
35:13engineers,
35:14they
35:14design
35:14the
35:14foundation.
35:15Sometimes,
35:16if
35:16nga,
35:16liquefiable
35:17siya,
35:17liquefaction
35:18prone,
35:18because
35:19ganyan
35:19yung
35:19mahinay
35:19substrate
35:20niya,
35:21binabipass
35:22nila
35:22yung
35:23mahinang
35:24mga
35:25bato
35:25or layers
35:26sa ilalim,
35:27tapos,
35:27pina-found nila
35:28doon sa
35:29mga
35:29mas matitibay
35:30na bato.
35:31Kasi,
35:31it doesn't mean
35:31naman po,
35:32pag limestone
35:32ang nasa
35:33ibabaw
35:33na nakikita
35:34nyo,
35:34sa ilalim
35:34ay limestone
35:35pa rin.
35:36So,
35:37hindi ganun po.
35:38So,
35:38sa geology,
35:39like Cebu,
35:40sa central part
35:41ng Cebu,
35:41iba po yung
35:42bato doon.
35:43Tapos,
35:44sa western
35:46at saka eastern,
35:47iba rin limestone
35:48doon.
35:48Pero,
35:48if you drill
35:49at a certain
35:50depth,
35:51siguro,
35:51you might
35:51encounter
35:52the older
35:52rocks
35:53na hindi
35:53limestone.
35:55So,
35:55ganun po siya.
35:56It's not a safe.
35:56But again,
35:57the decision
35:58in terms of
35:59reclamation,
36:00effect on the
36:00environment,
36:01biodiversity
36:02versus the
36:03needs
36:03of the LGUs,
36:04of course,
36:05that would be
36:06a province-wide
36:07decision po.
36:08Okay.
36:09So,
36:09ito din.
36:10Kasi mayroong
36:11ongoing
36:11reclamation,
36:12but
36:13ang province
36:15of Cebu
36:15has ceased
36:16quite a number
36:18of quarry
36:18operations.
36:19So,
36:20ma-affected talaga
36:20yung reclamation.
36:22Just going back
36:23to the 24
36:24more sinkholes
36:25na discovered,
36:26this is after
36:27yung 70
36:27natin,
36:28Doc?
36:29Yeah,
36:30this is the
36:30additional 24 po.
36:32This is on top
36:33of what was
36:34identified
36:34previously
36:35by the
36:35first group.
36:36Okay.
36:37So far,
36:38saan ito ang
36:39distribution ng
36:4024?
36:40Are they all
36:41in one place?
36:43No,
36:43hindi naman po.
36:44Hindi naman po.
36:45But I don't have
36:45the map with me
36:46right now.
36:47Okay,
36:47okay,
36:47okay,
36:48Doc.
36:48Okay,
36:49so that's what's...
36:51Parang
36:52geology 101
36:52talaga itong
36:53nangyari
36:53this afternoon.
36:54So,
36:54very,
36:55very maganda
36:56yung mga
36:56insights
36:57na nakuha
36:58namin
36:58sa'yo,
36:59Doc.
36:59but
37:00yun lang,
37:01clarify,
37:01ano lang,
37:02na yung
37:03LGU
37:04cannot really
37:05proceed
37:05without yung
37:06sa report nyo.
37:09Yes po,
37:10ideally po,
37:11ideally po,
37:12because our
37:13report serves
37:14as an important
37:15input to the
37:16plans of the
37:16LGU.
37:18They can proceed
37:18if they want to,
37:19of course,
37:20basta na
37:22sa legal bounds
37:23po tayo,
37:23but you know,
37:24science,
37:24information,
37:25is something
37:26that really
37:26needs to be
37:27considered
37:28when we talk
37:29about
37:29long-term
37:30planning
37:30or long-term
37:31sustainability po.
37:33I'm actually
37:33down to just
37:34my last two
37:35questions,
37:36Doc,
37:36and so my
37:37second to the
37:37last question
37:38actually is,
37:39this is ready
37:40for our
37:40viewers,
37:41so how
37:42will everyone
37:44stay informed
37:45and to
37:46stay safe?
37:47Because
37:48this
37:49publicity
37:50might
37:51eventually
37:51wither
37:52as the
37:54aftershocks
37:54would reduce
37:55and we
37:56know that
37:56we always
37:56move from
37:57one controversy
37:57to the
37:58next.
37:58But how
37:59do we
37:59stay
37:59informed?
38:01Okay,
38:01well,
38:02first of
38:02all,
38:03we have
38:03to learn
38:03from our
38:04experiences.
38:05We have
38:06to be
38:06more
38:06observant
38:07of what
38:07we see
38:07in the
38:08surroundings
38:08because
38:09what we
38:09see
38:09can be
38:10some
38:10sort
38:11of a
38:11lesson
38:11for us.
38:12So if
38:13we see
38:13an area
38:13as a
38:14landslide
38:14prone,
38:15obviously
38:15you have
38:16to see
38:17what is
38:18in that
38:19slope
38:19that made
38:20it
38:21like
38:21landslide
38:23prone.
38:23So you
38:24can always
38:25consult the
38:25Mines and
38:26Geosciences Bureau
38:26for that
38:27by looking
38:28at our
38:28website
38:28because we
38:29have already
38:30IEC
38:30materials
38:31that inform
38:32the different
38:33stakeholders
38:34of what
38:35would make
38:35an area
38:36unstable.
38:37So this
38:37is regardless
38:38of a
38:38landslide,
38:39regardless
38:40if this
38:40is about
38:41karst
38:42or maybe
38:42a flooding.
38:43So there
38:44are various
38:45avenues by
38:46which we
38:46could actually
38:46learn.
38:47Hazards
38:48Hunter is
38:48there,
38:49which was
38:49developed by
38:50DOST
38:50Feebles.
38:51They can
38:51also consult
38:52that.
38:53But obviously
38:54there are
38:55some
38:55limitations
38:55when we
38:56talk about
38:56maps
38:57because
38:57it depends
38:58on the
38:59scale
38:59of the
38:59map.
38:59Anong
39:00ibig
39:00ko
39:00sabihin?
39:01Apag
39:01nakasakay
39:02kayo
39:02ng
39:02aeroplano,
39:03sa taas
39:04po tayo,
39:05hindi
39:05natin
39:05makikita
39:05yung
39:06bubong.
39:07Pag
39:07unti-unting
39:07nagla-land
39:08yung
39:08aeroplano,
39:09unti-unting
39:09na
39:09nating
39:10nakikita
39:10yung
39:10bubong.
39:11So
39:11ang
39:12point
39:12ko
39:12lang po,
39:12the
39:13details
39:13that
39:13you
39:13see
39:14on
39:14the
39:14map
39:14depends
39:22but
39:23also
39:24teaching
39:24them
39:25how
39:25to
39:25read
39:25maps
39:26is
39:26another
39:26thing.
39:27That's
39:27the
39:27reason
39:27why
39:28the
39:28DNRMGB
39:29makes
39:30sure
39:31that
39:32the
39:32reading
39:33of
39:33maps
39:34is
39:34one
39:34of
39:34the
39:35components
39:35in
39:35the
39:36IEC
39:36po.
39:39And
39:40then
39:40for
39:41those
39:41who
39:41are
39:42living
39:44or
39:44are
39:44planning
39:45to
39:46invest
39:46on
39:47high-rise
39:48developments,
39:50should
39:50they
39:50be
39:51concerned
39:51about
39:52this
39:53sinkhole
39:53developments
39:54or
39:54should
39:55they
39:55stay
39:55reassured?
40:00I
40:01cannot
40:01answer
40:01that
40:02question
40:02because
40:03I
40:03didn't
40:04know
40:04how
40:05the
40:05building
40:06is
40:06more
40:08of
40:08confidence
40:08level
40:09given
40:10the
40:11requirements
40:12that
40:12developers
40:13are
40:13actually
40:14asked
40:14to
40:15comply
40:15and
40:15they
40:16comply.
40:18If
40:18they
40:19are
40:19able
40:19to
40:19comply
40:20if
40:20they
40:21have
40:21it
40:22undergo
40:22that
40:23Dow
40:242000
40:252010
40:25the
40:26EIA
40:26process
40:27maybe
40:28maybe
40:29but
40:29again
40:30it's
40:31not
40:31for
40:31me
40:31to
40:32actually
40:32answer
40:33because
40:33you
40:33know
40:34the
40:35recent
40:35events
40:36about
40:37the
40:37buildings
40:38the
40:39measures
40:40that
40:40were
40:40implemented
40:41but
40:42I don't
40:44want to
40:44touch
40:44on that
40:44issue
40:45anymore
40:45this
40:46is
40:47my
40:47last
40:47question
40:48doc
40:48yes
40:49I
40:49know
40:49the
40:50challenges
40:51then
40:51MGB
40:52in
40:53conducting
40:54all
40:54this
40:55mapping
40:55for
40:56hazard
40:57areas
40:58actually
40:59the
41:00challenge
41:00here
41:00right
41:01now
41:01for
41:01us
41:01to
41:02be
41:02frank
41:02about
41:03it
41:03we
41:03need
41:03more
41:04geologists
41:04we
41:04need
41:05more
41:05plantilla
41:06because
41:07for
41:07example
41:08in
41:08the
41:08regional
41:09offices
41:09we
41:09only
41:10have
41:10like
41:10eight
41:10geologists
41:11working
41:13and so
41:14if you're
41:14dealing
41:14with
41:15region
41:156
41:15you
41:15do
41:15have
41:15a
41:16lot
41:16of
41:16islands
41:16and
41:17you
41:17need
41:17to
41:17deal
41:17with
41:18different
41:18hazards
41:19so
41:19landslide
41:20flood
41:21cars
41:21not
41:21to
41:22mention
41:22that
41:24there
41:24are
41:24other
41:24activities
41:25such
41:26as
41:26groundwater
41:26exploration
41:27so
41:28plantilla
41:28is
41:29something
41:29that
41:29is
41:30very
41:30important
41:31for
41:31the
41:31MGB
41:32but
41:32at
41:33the
41:33end
41:33of
41:33the
41:33day
41:33of
41:33course
41:34challenge
41:37then
41:37is
41:38sustainability
41:38information
41:39I do
41:41hope
41:42I encourage
41:42the
41:42LGUs
41:43na
41:44i-upload
41:44siya
41:45i-pass
41:45on
41:45information
41:46sa
41:46susunod
41:47na
41:47officials
41:48because
41:48you know
41:49every time
41:50that there's
41:50an election
41:50baka
41:51mawala
41:51din
41:52then
41:52back
41:55to
41:55zero
41:55tayo
41:56so
41:56what
41:56I am
41:57saying
41:57is
41:57that
41:57when
41:58it
41:58comes
41:58to
41:58disaster
41:59management
41:59just
42:00don't
42:00think
42:01of
42:01FIVOS
42:01just
42:02don't
42:02think
42:02of
42:02MGB
42:03or
42:04maybe
42:04Pag-asa
42:05because
42:05disaster
42:06management
42:06is a
42:07whole
42:07government
42:07approach
42:08that
42:08also
42:09requires
42:10the
42:10full
42:10cooperation
42:11of
42:12all
42:12stakeholders
42:13when
42:14you
42:14said
42:14plantilla
42:16available
42:19or
42:19we're
42:20having
42:20a
42:20difficulty
42:21hiring
42:21of
42:22geologists
42:22it's
42:23more
42:24of
42:24the
42:24limited
42:24plantilla
42:25ideally
42:27right
42:28now
42:31for the
42:31entire
42:31MGB
42:32how many
42:32people
42:32let's
42:34let's
42:34let me
42:35just
42:35inform
42:36you
42:36like
42:36for
42:36example
42:36for
42:37the
42:37central
42:37office
42:38we
42:38have
42:38at
42:38least
42:3920
42:39na
42:40COS
42:40so
42:41yun
42:42wala
42:42kami
42:42plantilla
42:43but
42:44again
42:44it's
42:45not
42:46easy
42:47to
42:47answer
42:48that
42:48kasi
42:48depende
42:49rin
42:49kung
42:49what
42:49regions
42:50are
42:50we
42:50talking
42:50about
42:51but
42:51definitely
42:52we
42:52need
42:52more
42:53technical
42:54people
42:54to
42:57have
42:57a
42:57good
42:58decision
42:58kailangan
42:59science
42:59back
43:00or
43:00data
43:00driven
43:00talaga
43:01so
43:01we'll
43:03try
43:03to
43:04cascade
43:04that
43:04to
43:05the
43:05decision
43:07makers
43:09kasi
43:09na
43:10highlight
43:11ang
43:12requirements
43:13ng
43:13importance
43:14ng
43:14science
43:15when
43:15things
43:16like
43:16this
43:16happen
43:17and
43:17just
43:17like
43:18sa
43:18FIVOX
43:20they need
43:21something
43:22like
43:22300
43:23seismic
43:24radars
43:24but
43:25right
43:25now
43:25we
43:26have
43:26120
43:27plus
43:27and
43:28for
43:28us
43:28to
43:29complete
43:29the
43:29300
43:30needed
43:31for
43:31us
43:31para
43:31maka
43:32forecast
43:32or
43:33maka
43:33send
43:33right
43:33away
43:34information
43:35of
43:35an
43:35earthquake
43:36it's
43:37like
43:37in
43:37the
43:37next
43:3740
43:38years
43:38so
43:39by
43:39the
43:39time
43:39complete
43:40na
43:40natin
43:40yung
43:40300
43:41outdated
43:41na
43:42yung
43:42technology
43:42doc
43:43ok
43:45so
43:46doc
43:47thank
43:47you
43:47any
43:47last
43:48message
43:48for
43:48our
43:49viewers
43:49sa
43:51lahat
43:52po
43:52ng
43:52ating
43:52mga
43:53kapwa
43:53Pilipino
43:54lagi po
43:55tayo
43:55maging
43:55mahanda
43:56gaya po
43:57na sinasabi
43:58ko
43:58dati
43:58failure
44:00to prepare
44:01is preparing
44:02to fail
44:02marami po
44:03salamat
44:03thank
44:04thank you
44:04dr
44:04quenio
44:05ok
44:07so
44:07that
44:07was
44:08dr
44:08carlo
44:09quenio
44:10ng
44:11mgb
44:12manila
44:12pero
44:12ano yung
44:1324
44:14new
44:14follow up
44:15lang
44:15na
44:15taon
44:16niya
44:16ang
44:16pilan
44:16ni
44:16asan
44:17ni
44:17dapita
44:17ang
44:1724
44:1875
44:19plus
44:2024
44:21that's
44:21almost
44:22100
44:22already
44:22this
44:23is
44:23on top
44:24of
44:24the
44:24early
44:25198
44:26dj
44:27before
44:31there's
44:32an
44:32mg
44:32report
44:33that
44:33says
44:33to
44:34date
44:34ang
44:34mgb
44:35post
44:35disaster
44:35assessment
44:36then
44:36documented
44:3714
44:38in
44:38in
44:39bugo
44:39incidents
44:40in
44:40or
44:40from
44:41the
44:41198
44:42sinkholes
44:43that
44:43were
44:44previously
44:44assessed
44:46in
44:46bugo
44:46and
44:47san
44:47rimeo
44:48before
44:48the
44:49earthquake
44:49that
44:50was also
44:54the context
44:54of the
44:55question
44:55whether
44:55san
44:58rem
44:58for
44:58example
44:58is
44:59already
44:59an
45:00area
45:00of
45:00focus
45:01but
45:01the
45:02term
45:02that
45:02he
45:02used
45:02is
45:02high
45:03risk
45:03but
45:04he
45:04did
45:04not
45:05still
45:05conclude
45:07it is
45:08a
45:08high
45:09risk
45:09area
45:09at
45:10this
45:10time
45:10I
45:11worry
45:12and
45:12concentrate
45:13in
45:13one
45:13area
45:14one
45:14city
45:14just
45:16to be
45:16safe
45:17there's
45:20a
45:21nearby
45:21fault
45:21line
45:22when
45:23it's
45:23moving
45:24when
45:25you
45:25invest
45:26at
45:27mga
45:27balay
45:28dj
45:28and
45:31that's
45:32also
45:32one of
45:33the
45:33reasons
45:33why
45:33I
45:33raised
45:34kaganina
45:34incidentally
45:35the
45:36epicenter
45:36is
45:36in
45:37Bogo
45:37but
45:38the
45:38concentration
45:39of
45:39the
45:40sinkholes
45:40are
45:40in
45:40San
45:41Rem
45:41and
45:42the
45:42difference
45:43between
45:44the
45:44figures
45:44are
45:45actually
45:45big
45:4650%
45:47correct
45:4740
45:48and
45:4816
45:49so
45:5050%
45:51yun
45:52so
45:52pasalamatan
45:53ni
45:53Arnel
45:54Beltran
45:54nga
45:54nang
45:55hutan
45:55nanto
45:55kadina
45:56si
45:56Rico
45:58Cabije
46:00o
46:01si
46:01Corsino
46:01Quilosia
46:02manis
46:02le mga
46:03uban
46:03nga
46:03is
46:04joining
46:04us
46:05right
46:05now
46:05for
46:05our
46:06discussion
46:06so
46:07I
46:08think
46:10BBM
46:10is
46:11coming
46:11to
46:11Bugo
46:12tomorrow
46:13for a
46:14visit
46:14siguro
46:15but
46:17before we
46:19even think
46:20of
46:20OCD
46:22they are
46:22now
46:23on
46:23rebuilding
46:25and
46:28rehabilitation
46:29so
46:30the
46:30areas
46:32like
46:34like
46:34city hall
46:39so
46:40it's
46:41within
46:41near
46:45the
46:45fault
46:45line
46:45or
46:46dilly
46:46dilly
46:47build
46:47build
46:47so
46:48I
46:49would
46:50like
46:50to
46:50believe
46:50that
46:51it's
46:51near
46:54the
46:54fault
46:54line
46:54although
46:54the
46:55limited
46:55photo
46:56that
46:56I saw
46:56about
46:57the
46:57post
46:58I
46:58also
46:58don't
46:59know
46:59what
46:59was
46:59the
46:59motivation
47:00of the
47:00photo
47:01but
47:01it
47:01actually
47:01aesthetics
47:02but
47:03what I
47:04showed
47:04under
47:05the
47:05architectural
47:06or
47:07the
47:07engineering
47:07I
47:07had to
47:08look
47:08the
47:08work
47:09I
47:09will
47:09look
47:10better
47:11I
47:11saw
47:12the
47:12structure
47:15even
47:20if
47:21sufficient
47:21for
47:23example
47:23I
47:24go
47:24to
47:24the
47:25fault
47:25line
47:25before
47:27building
47:27the
47:27city
47:28all
47:28there
47:28near
47:29the
47:29fault
47:29line
47:30given
47:34the
47:34building
47:35code
47:35if
47:38build
47:40compliance
47:41to
47:42Obo
47:42survive
47:44of
47:45intensity
47:46or
47:46magnitude
47:478
47:47intensity
47:488
47:48intensity
47:498
47:50it's
47:51something
47:51and
47:52it's
47:54not
47:54necessarily
47:55about
47:56putting
47:57unnecessary
47:57spotlight
47:58on the
47:59structure
47:59but
48:00it's
48:00a
48:01demonstration
48:01supposedly
48:02in the
48:04context
48:05of
48:05lead
48:05by
48:05example
48:06so
48:07if
48:07we
48:07expect
48:07structures
48:08to be
48:09sturdy
48:10and
48:10compliant
48:11gober
48:11it's
48:22a good
48:23way
48:23for
48:23government
48:24to
48:24reassure
48:25the
48:25citizens
48:26by
48:27also
48:27the
48:28integrity
48:29the
48:29structural
48:29integrity
48:30of
48:31the
48:31structures
48:32that
48:32were
48:33government
48:33seats
48:34it creates
48:36a negative
48:37impression
48:37kung
48:38una
48:38silang
48:38naliki
48:39compared
48:41to
48:41the
48:41others
48:41kato
48:422013
48:43earthquake
48:44in
48:44buhol
48:44ang
48:45nahitabu
48:45sa
48:45buhol
48:45kaya
48:46mo siya
48:46gbiti
48:46kaya
48:47ang
48:47pika
48:47side
48:48ni
48:48saka
48:48ang
48:48pika
48:49side
48:49ni
48:49ubos
48:50na
48:50ba
48:50sagha
48:51na
48:51nga
48:51observations
48:52or
48:53mga
48:53subsidence
48:54or
48:54pagsaka
48:55in
48:56northern
48:56Cebu
48:56we
48:57covered
48:57that
48:57kaya
48:58i
48:58think
48:58when
48:58we
48:58interviewed
48:59director
49:01de
49:01kol
49:02kol
49:02we
49:02asked
49:03man
49:03about
49:03san
49:04remeji
49:04san
49:05remeji
49:05san
49:06san
49:06nga
49:06ni
49:06saka
49:07tubig
49:07sa
49:07pier
49:08yes
49:09and
49:10then
49:10ni
49:10recede
49:11ang
49:11sabugo
49:12so
49:14there
49:15na
49:15movement
49:15and
49:16we
49:16asked
49:17if
49:17it
49:18was
49:18temporary
49:18and
49:19he
49:19said
49:19that
49:19it's
49:19already
49:20permanent
49:20permanent
49:20di
49:22man
49:22siya
49:22spud
49:22mo
49:23buhal
49:23mahal
49:24mo
49:24siguro
49:24kong
49:24siso
49:25okay
49:27na lang
49:27itong
49:27permanent
49:27kaysa
49:28musiso
49:29high tide
49:31low tide
49:32mag-usap
49:33pusa
49:33bang
49:33high tide
49:33low tide
49:34paglaro
49:35DJ
49:35that's scary
49:37kaya
49:38mag-skarito
49:38ito
49:39nga
49:39ligu-ligu
49:40kanya
49:41nga
49:41nga
49:41mag-skarito
49:42nga
49:42nga
49:42nga
49:42nga
49:43nga
49:43nga
49:43nga
49:43nga
49:44nga
49:45nga
49:45nga
49:46nga
49:47nga
49:47nga
49:48nga
49:48nga
49:48nga
49:49nga
49:50nga
49:50nga
49:50nga
49:50nga
49:50nga
49:50nga
49:50nga
49:51nga
49:51nga
49:52nga
49:55atong
49:56maayong
49:57opinion
49:58or
49:58decision
49:58is
49:59guided
49:59na
49:59sa
50:00right
50:00information
50:01na
50:01atong
50:01makuha
50:02so
50:02subarita
50:03visit mo
50:04sa
50:04mines
50:05and
50:05geosciences
50:06website
50:06follow
50:07mo
50:07sa
50:07sunstar
50:08para
50:08padayon
50:09ang
50:09mga
50:09saktong
50:10informasyon
50:11ng
50:11atong
50:11mahatag
50:11ninyo
50:12so
50:13ugma
50:13mga
50:13higala
50:14atong
50:14atangan
50:15si
50:15engineer
50:16lloyd
50:17adlawan
50:18sa
50:18finally
50:19last
50:20week
50:20mga
50:20feeling
50:22well
50:23siya
50:23so
50:23iniingon
50:24itong
50:24iyang
50:24ipadadiri
50:25that
50:25he's
50:26coming
50:26here
50:26tomorrow
50:27friday
50:28to
50:28explain
50:28what
50:29happened
50:29to
50:29the
50:30azela
50:30property
50:31development
50:32and
50:33i actually
50:33wish him
50:35well
50:35so
50:35that
50:35he
50:36will
50:36feel
50:36well
50:37tomorrow
50:37to
50:38explain
50:39to
50:39explain
50:40finally
50:40i think
50:41deserve
50:41lang
50:42san
50:42po
50:42ang
50:42mga
50:42tao
50:43for
50:43an
50:44explanation
50:44so
50:45at
50:45this
50:45time
50:46daghan
50:46yung
50:46concern
50:47sa
50:47young
50:47health
50:48i hope
50:48he
50:48will
50:49really
50:49take
50:49care
50:49of
50:49himself
50:50so
50:53hope
50:54to
50:54see you
50:55tomorrow
50:55engineer
50:56Adlawan
50:56and that
50:57wraps up
50:57the edition
50:58of beyond
50:59the
50:59headlines
50:59we hope
51:00today's
51:00conversation
51:01helped
51:02shed light
51:03on the
51:03bigger picture
51:04behind
51:05the story
51:05and we'd like
51:06to thank
51:06our guest
51:07dr.
51:08Carlo
51:08Quenio
51:09for helping
51:09us
51:10connect
51:10the dots
51:11in ways
51:11that matter
51:12I'm
51:13Mildred
51:14Galarpe
51:14and I'm
51:14DJ
51:15Moises
51:15thank you
51:16and good
51:17afternoon
51:42and makes
51:44be
51:45rarpe
51:50a
51:50a
51:50a
51:53e
51:55a
51:59a
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52:02a
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