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Hustlers Gamblers Crooks - Season 2 Episode 4 -
The Crooked Ref
The Crooked Ref
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00:00When you sign a contract as an NBA referee, it's in there that says you can't place a bet of any kind.
00:07I would give him the information, he would place the bet, we'd split the money 50-50.
00:11Me and Tim used a secret code, so I knew right away that it was the away team that was going to win that night.
00:18And I was involved in the biggest scandal in sports betting history.
00:23I was the number one manufacturer of fraudulent credit cards in the entire United States.
00:30I was a leader in one of the most dangerous motorcycle clubs in America, and I went on a high-speed police chase where I chased the cops.
00:39These credit cards were my Vincent Van Goghs. This was my masterpiece.
00:45He had known what I'd been doing with these picks.
00:48He was going to expose me to the NBA. Deep down, I knew I was screwed.
00:53We live outside of the law, and if something happens to us, we're going to take care of it on our own.
00:56We were winning every game. You know, we were getting paid.
01:01We were making a lot of money.
01:02I never checked the price of anything. I just went and got it.
01:08My name's Jon Boziak, and I made roughly $4.2 million producing fake credit cards.
01:21I had a very eventful youth.
01:35Single mother. You know, my dad was kind of in and out throughout my life.
01:40I had a little brother that I grew up with, and we pretty much just raised ourselves.
01:46Art has always been a part of my life.
01:48My oldest memory I have is just drawing on pencil and paper.
01:53Street art has always been my main influence behind everything I do.
01:59We spray-painted everything we could.
02:02Freeway signs, stop signs, security's chasing you, the cops are getting called.
02:06So it was exciting, especially when you're younger, you know, 15, 16 years old.
02:10Once I graduated, I had to figure something out.
02:18So it was like, what am I good at? And it was art.
02:22That's when I decided to go to the Art Institute.
02:25I majored in graphic design and media arts.
02:28So I would just hang out on campus, and I would go to classes that I wasn't even signed up for.
02:33You know what I mean?
02:34Like, I would go to classes that I didn't even have to go to attend.
02:36I would just go sit in the classes.
02:39I graduated with a 3.59.
02:41Surely there's a company that'll hire me as a graphic design artist.
02:44Well, that turned out not to be the case.
02:46You know, what do you do? What do I do?
02:48I just hit the internet.
02:48In the early 2000s, there were forums for basically every kind of crime you could imagine.
02:58And when I found the forum for credit card fraud, I don't know why.
03:02I just felt like that was something that I could do.
03:04I'm proficient with graphic design.
03:05I understand computer systems.
03:07So when they started explaining exactly how you do it, I was like, this I get, this I can do.
03:14Basically, what this entails is anytime you go to a website,
03:17you put in your credit card information.
03:19All of that information is stored on a server somewhere.
03:22And what people do is they hack this information and they resell it
03:25to people that, you know, obviously want to commit crimes with it.
03:30And so what happens is, is you order these numbers online
03:33and you need a physical piece of plastic with a magnetic strip on it.
03:37It could be a hotel room key.
03:38It could be a gift card.
03:40It could be anything.
03:41Anything with a magnetic strip on it, you can write a credit card information to.
03:44You need a MSR 206 reader writer, which is just a little piece of equipment
03:49that you slide the card through.
03:50And it's got two magnetic thingies on the inside that encode the information.
03:54And then you need, obviously you need the numbers.
03:58You encode them physically to the card.
04:03And then you go out to the store and you just swipe the card as if it were your own.
04:07If somebody uses your credit card, 100% of the time you always get your money back.
04:13I wasn't stealing from people.
04:14I was stealing from banks.
04:15And that I have no problem with.
04:17I remember the first time I did it, I think it was food.
04:20I think I just went into like a restaurant.
04:21And it went right through, no problems.
04:30That was when I kind of went back out and I sat in the car and I'm like, holy smokes.
04:33There's something to this.
04:35If you have the cojones to go out and do it.
04:39When you encode these numbers to these cards, you're using somebody else's debit card information
04:44on a random card.
04:45This works with small purchases, but you try to purchase something, anything over $300.
04:49There are security protocols that they have to follow in order to process the sale.
04:55One of which being that they have to look at the physical card and make sure that the
04:58last four digits of the credit card match what's actually being swiped on the POS machine.
05:03That's eventually what led me to going on and finding plastic vendors.
05:09And you would tell them what numbers to emboss on the front of the card.
05:13Now I'm able to go and I'm able to card the larger stuff.
05:16Then I could kind of chase after the big money.
05:18It was kind of like just like the wild, wild west.
05:22And I would do it every day.
05:25You know, because it's exciting walking into a store with five debit cards in your wallet
05:29and you don't have to think about the price of anything.
05:31It's like winning the lottery.
05:33I wake up every morning and I just think about what can I buy today?
05:40Going into a supermarket, I'm just putting everything in the basket.
05:42I got two baskets.
05:43I got two baskets in the store.
05:45You know, I got every cereal I want.
05:47I'm getting steaks.
05:48I'm getting, you know, every prime rib.
05:50So I was going to Foot Locker and Champs every other day and getting three or four pairs of
05:54sneakers.
05:54And you can just live a completely different life now.
05:57Something occurred to me that I either heard or somebody had told me.
06:05It was when the gold miners were out west and they were out there mining gold and it was
06:11the 49ers.
06:12Everybody was going out there.
06:13It was the gold rush.
06:14The guys out there making all the money were the guys selling the pickaxes, not mining
06:18the gold.
06:20For some reason, that little factoid always stuck with me.
06:23And I realized that going into a store to swipe credit cards, that's for the peons.
06:28The guys who are actually making the money, the kingpins, those are the guys making the
06:31plastic.
06:32Because I figured if I could just make these cards and sell them, then I could remove
06:36all of the risk from myself as much as I possibly could with, you know, maximizing profits.
06:41I found the exact printer that the banks used.
06:46I found the correct hologram vendor from China.
06:52I found a machine that punches the numbers into the card.
06:57I have a graphic design major.
06:59These credit cards were my Vincent Van Gogh's.
07:01This was my masterpiece.
07:03I worked harder on making these credit cards than I've ever worked on anything else my entire
07:07life.
07:11This is what's called an embossing machine.
07:13Now, in order to emboss a card using this machine, it kind of works like an old dial
07:17telephone.
07:18The dial here on top allows you to select your numbers and your letters.
07:22On the front of the machine, you've got a feed slot that you place the plastic card into,
07:27making sure that it is secure.
07:29And we're just going to run just through and emboss just some normal numbers for you real
07:33quick.
07:33It automatically moves over each time, so you don't have to do anything with it.
07:46Pull out our card.
07:48And we have a perfectly spaced and perfectly embossed credit card.
07:52So the next step of the process, after you have your numbers punched perfectly into the
07:56card, is it goes to the tipping machine.
07:58The tipping machine is a hot foil machine that either puts gold or silver leafing onto
08:03the numbers on the card, allowing you to have a better polished product.
08:07Now you're ready to swipe.
08:08You're ready to spend.
08:09And you're ready to go out into the store and commit some fraud.
08:12Once I had a card that was indistinguishable from those that were issued from a financial
08:24institution, I knew that I had a marketable product.
08:27Then from there, it was just marketing and it was customer service.
08:30I would advertise on these forums and I realized that I'm going to be dealing with people all
08:34over the world.
08:35So I literally used to sleep with my laptop next to my bed open and with the volume all
08:40the way up.
08:40I would answer all of my customers I could within five or 10 minutes.
08:44And that was something nobody else did.
08:47When it came to ship, I would just throw them in an envelope and fire them off through USPS.
08:51And one of my customers got the cards and he's like, listen, man, he's like, I can hold
08:56them in the light and I can see your fingerprints on the cards.
08:59So then I was like, oh, maybe I do need to figure out a better process.
09:05So I came up with a pretty genius idea for mailing credit cards.
09:09So I would go on eBay and I would find the listing for like 10 or 15 modems that just
09:13don't work or are missing parts.
09:15I'd buy all of those, take the insides out and I would hide the cards inside the modems,
09:19put them back in the box and I'd vacuum seal them like they came from the store.
09:22And I figured out how to scam shipping centers by making fake labels so I wouldn't have to
09:27pay for shipping.
09:28Scan into their system as a label that's been already paid for and say, can you add this
09:32to your outgoing mail?
09:33They'd scan it and that'd be it.
09:34A normal busy week for me was anywhere between 500 and 1,000 cards.
09:42So then I would just have people pay me through Western Union.
09:44Either that or I accepted Bitcoin.
09:46I was making anywhere between 100 and $150,000 a month.
09:51I was buying Cadillacs, eating out three times a day.
09:54I was flying private.
09:55I never checked the price of anything.
09:59If I wanted it or if I needed it, I just went and got it.
10:02Yeah, there was nobody else doing what I was doing.
10:04I was the number one manufacturer of fraudulent credit cards in the entire United States.
10:14I was with a girl.
10:16I had met her in Fort Lauderdale.
10:18We started dating.
10:20And then we had a baby.
10:22She wanted to move to South Carolina.
10:24And we got a townhouse.
10:27I started making cards, you know, printing them.
10:29I set up a little lab up there.
10:30I was printing and sending cards out.
10:31But the thing is about South Carolina is that there were only two stores to send you words out from.
10:36You have to set up a box.
10:37So you have to come in with a driver's license and you have to, you know, give them your name.
10:41So I just told somebody his identity.
10:43Whenever I had packages come in or I was packages mailing out, everything was always in the name Ryan Pearson.
10:51This is the craziest shit in the world.
10:52The owner of the shipping store opened one of my packages and went in and found the cards that I was sending out.
11:00He contacted the Postmaster General.
11:02He contacted the Secret Service.
11:04The Secret Service then set up a sting on me.
11:06They sent me an email that I had a package at the store where I had my mailbox and to come pick it up.
11:11And they just waited outside for me every single day for a week, eight hours a day, waiting for me to pick up my package.
11:17I had no idea what was about to happen.
11:19I fell right into their trap.
11:26I walked right in there with my just like it was a normal day.
11:29And I got to give it to the old man.
11:34He played it cool.
11:36Usually I pick up if something's wrong.
11:38Like if somebody's acting kind of weird, like my intuition immediately picks up on it because it's just been a defense mechanism of survival my entire life.
11:45It's being able to read people within a split second.
11:47And I had no idea.
11:48Like the old man, it was just like another day, another dollar.
11:55And then I go to walk out the door and here come two people walking in, plain clothes, but I seen a badge and a gun.
12:02And they were like, Ryan Pearson?
12:04And I was like, oh, and I was like, yeah.
12:06And they're like, well, we need to talk to you about what you've been sending out of here.
12:10I was like, what are you talking about?
12:11You're sending out of here.
12:12And they're like, listen, we have the package.
12:14We have one of your packages you've sent out.
12:16We know what's going on.
12:16So we went in the back office.
12:18I remember sitting in the chair and they were like, what's your name?
12:20Because we looked Ryan Pearson up and you're not Ryan Pearson.
12:23And at this point in my mind, I'm like, what do they know?
12:26They're like, how long have you been doing?
12:27How long have you been sending these cards out?
12:28And I minimized.
12:29I told them I've only been doing it in a couple months.
12:31Just I make these things in my bedroom.
12:33I don't have anybody else working with me.
12:35Because they thought for sure that this was some giant crime ring.
12:39They didn't believe me that it was just me.
12:41They fingerprinted me.
12:42And then they had me sign a waiver saying that they could come to my home.
12:46and search and seize anything that was used in the commission of the crime.
12:55They drove me to my condo.
12:56And I sat in the living room on the couch with one guy watching me
12:59while the other guy went through the whole apartment.
13:01They took all my printers, they took my laptops, they took all my debit cards.
13:07Everything gone.
13:08$960,000.
13:10Gone.
13:11So I knew I was s***ed.
13:12I knew this was the end of the line for me.
13:13I was charged with manufacturing a fraudulent transaction device,
13:20possession of a fraudulent transaction device,
13:22mail fraud, wire fraud, and aggravated identity theft.
13:27Maximum sentence I was looking at was about 25 years.
13:30Between 2005 and 2009,
13:32I made roughly $4.2 million
13:35manufacturing fraudulent credit cards.
13:37And here I am facing 25 years in prison at 27 years old.
13:44And I sat in Pinellas County Jail for like three and a half months.
13:47Then my lawyer came back and told me that we have an offer
13:50from the prosecuting attorney.
13:52They're offering 24 months.
13:53I was absolutely flabbergasted.
13:56And I was like, what happened?
13:57She was like, the worker at the shipping store?
14:00There's a protocol they're supposed to follow.
14:02The postmaster general is the only one with the authority
14:05to open mail that's been, postage has been paid for.
14:08The old man at the shipping store, he didn't follow protocol.
14:11And because of that, they had to dismiss all of the charges
14:14except for the aggravated identity theft,
14:17which I did have my face on someone else's driver's license.
14:19I wasn't necessarily physically harming people,
14:24but I understand that it is a very large inconvenience.
14:27The people always get their money back.
14:29So at the end of the day, really, it's the banks taking the loss.
14:33And my attitude is, f***ing banks.
14:35So I don't feel bad at all about stealing
14:37from financial institutions at all.
14:40I'm going to be completely honest with you.
14:41If I could do it all over again, I would do it again.
14:43I would 100% absolutely do it again.
14:47My name is Tim Donaghy.
14:48I'm a former NBA ref.
14:55I was involved in the biggest scandal in sports betting history.
15:01I'm from Havertown, Pennsylvania.
15:05Growing up, I loved basketball.
15:07I played basketball every day.
15:09You know, we went out in the mornings
15:10and played sports all day and all afternoon in the summer,
15:13and that's how we occupied our time.
15:15My name's Tommy Martino,
15:18and I'm Tim Donaghy's best friend.
15:23Timmy and I had a lot in common,
15:25but the main thing we had in common
15:27was the fact that we were both tenacious basketball players.
15:30He would always hack the s*** out of me.
15:35He would cheat during the game playing me just to beat me.
15:38He would do anything to beat me.
15:39He would foul me
15:40and act like he never fouled me.
15:44But I ended up beating him anyway.
15:45I'm sure if you ask him that question,
15:47he's going to tell you he beat me.
15:48He liked to say that I cheated because I always beat him.
15:53Tommy was, you know, not big in stature,
15:56but had a heart of gold and was a very tough kid.
16:00He was definitely somebody that I could rely on and count on.
16:03So, you know, in a way, he was like a brother,
16:06somebody that would have your back if you needed it.
16:08My dad was a top college basketball referee,
16:15and I used to go to a lot of the games with him.
16:17I learned a lot about officiating at a young age.
16:21Because of that, after college,
16:23I started to pursue a career as an NBA basketball referee.
16:28You had to put your whole heart and soul
16:30into studying those rule books.
16:34Be in the best shape that you could possibly be in
16:37to be able to run up and down the court
16:39with the greatest athletes in the world.
16:41I was 26 years old when I got hired.
16:45And my first game was a preseason game in Chicago
16:48with, you know, Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls.
16:51And it was one of the top accomplishments
16:53and greatest moments of my life.
16:58And when you become an NBA referee,
17:00you go in there and you're going to enforce those rules
17:02based on how they're written in the rule book.
17:04And unfortunately, you find out very quickly
17:06that that's not the way it goes.
17:08And I think sometimes the rules are enforced
17:11based on the names on the front and the back of the jerseys.
17:13And you have to basically learn the game within the game
17:17in order to survive.
17:19There was a situation where, in Philadelphia,
17:21I made a traveling call against Michael Jordan.
17:2420,000 people booed me.
17:31And, you know, it was a particular spin move
17:33that they wanted called against players in the NBA that year.
17:39In my opinion, they want that called,
17:41but not on somebody like Michael Jordan.
17:43These star players are definitely put in a better position.
17:46And I think the NBA was influencing games.
17:50There were meetings to where the league would come in
17:52and have a representative tell you
17:54what they wanted you to concentrate on that night.
17:56That was going to put a certain team
17:58at an advantage or disadvantage.
18:00And they weren't telling you to fix the game,
18:01but a lot of times we walked out of those meetings saying,
18:04you know, I think they want the Lakers to win tonight
18:06or they want the Mavericks to win tonight.
18:08and you know that they're grading you
18:10based on what you go out and call.
18:12And if they told you that they wanted you
18:13to concentrate on a certain player
18:15traveling in the post, then, in my opinion,
18:18if you made that call, you know, you'd get a good grade.
18:21A good grade would get you advancement in the playoffs.
18:23And each round could mean $20,000 extra for you.
18:27So there was a lot of incentive for you to do
18:29what the league wanted you to do.
18:35I was over at the country club
18:37and a buddy of mine just said,
18:38hey, you know, who do you think is going to win
18:40these NBA games?
18:41I knew who was refereeing the games
18:42and I knew teams had advantages and disadvantages
18:45based on what we discussed in that morning meeting.
18:48And I rattled off three games to the guy.
18:55The next day he called me and he said,
18:57man, is it that easy?
18:58And I said, what do you mean?
18:59He goes, all three of those games won.
19:04From that point on, we had our deal.
19:06I would give him the information.
19:07He would place the bet.
19:09We'd split the money 50-50.
19:15When you sign a contract as an NBA referee,
19:17it's in there that says you can't place a bet of any kind.
19:20It was something that really none of us followed.
19:23A lot of us went to the casinos.
19:25A lot of us gambled on the golf course.
19:27I loved the action of every shot
19:30meaning something in a golf match
19:32or the flip of the card.
19:33So it was something that I quickly became addicted to.
19:36And not only did I go up to the line,
19:38but I jumped over the line and crossed it
19:40in a way that I shouldn't have even been near.
19:44We bet on and off for about three years.
19:46Maybe I won $20,000, $25,000 at that time.
19:49I think if anyone found out that I was feeding the information
19:52to a buddy of mine, I would have definitely lost my job.
19:58So I met Jimmy Batista in grade school.
20:02He went to the same grade school I did.
20:04He lived up the street from me, up the hill from me.
20:08Jimmy Batista was a professional gambler
20:10and I believe also had connections to organized crime.
20:13Hey, how you doing?
20:14One day out of the blue, I get a call from him.
20:16He goes, Donaghy's in trouble.
20:18He's betting on his own games.
20:20We have to meet up with him, word's out on the street,
20:22and I'm afraid he's going to lose his job.
20:24I said, You got it.
20:25The date came.
20:26I didn't know what was going on.
20:27I thought I was helping Timmy out.
20:30I was in Philadelphia to referee a game.
20:32Tommy said that he was going to come down
20:34and take me out to dinner and got a big surprise
20:36from that big fat dickhead Batista walked in.
20:39We immediately sat down and that's when he said
20:42that he had known what I'd been doing.
20:43And he was getting those plays behind my back
20:46and he wanted to continue to get those plays
20:48or he was going to expose me to the NBA for gambling
20:51or worse yet, have somebody visit my wife and kids in Florida.
20:55I felt like my life was, you know, flashing in front of me,
20:58went into the bathroom, threw some cold water on my face.
21:01I said, Tim, what the f***, dude?
21:10At this point, I didn't know that Donaghy was betting games,
21:13so I didn't know that Batista was doing it
21:15so he could give him the games.
21:17So I was like, holy f***, man.
21:19Tommy followed me in there and I said,
21:21Tommy, what the heck are you doing bringing him down here?
21:23I didn't know Batista that well,
21:25but what I knew of him, he was just a total scumbag.
21:27So it was just a situation where nothing ever good
21:31comes from anyone that's around him.
21:35You know, I agreed with Batista to give him the picks
21:39for the rest of the NBA season for $2,000 per correct pick.
21:43Donaghy says, okay, take the Celtics.
21:49And the next night, Celtics kicked the Sixers' ass.
21:53The next night, Batista met me and threw me five grand.
21:58Two for Donaghy, three for me.
22:08I was the middle man in all this.
22:09Without me, it doesn't happen.
22:11I started working with Tim to try to get the games
22:14in a discreet way to pass it along to Batista.
22:18When I was on the road, I would just call Tommy
22:21if I had some good information on a game
22:22after the morning meeting and basically relay to him
22:26not the information, but what team was going to win.
22:29Me and Tim used a secret code.
22:31If it was the home team that Timmy wanted us to take,
22:34it was my brother Chuck, because he stayed at home,
22:37never got married.
22:38My brother Johnny got married, moved to New Jersey.
22:40He was the away team.
22:41So Donaghy would call me up and say,
22:43hey, I told Johnny today.
22:44So I knew right away that it was the away team
22:48who was going to win that night.
22:49I would call Batista.
22:51I would tell Batista the game,
22:52same way, to Johnny or Chuck.
22:55What about Johnny?
22:56And then Batista would give me the point spread.
22:59Thank you for the info, Tommy.
23:01And then I'd call Donaghy back,
23:03and I would have to disguise the point spread.
23:05So if the point spread was like seven and a half,
23:07I would have to say, like, somebody's address
23:09so that we would, you know,
23:11not get detected by the feds.
23:14Betting the spread and gambling is
23:20when you pick a team that is either favored
23:23by a certain amount of points
23:24or giving a certain amount of points.
23:27If the Lakers are favored by six,
23:30if the Lakers win by more than six,
23:32then you win the bet.
23:35If they win by less than six,
23:36then you lose the bet.
23:39If they win by six, it's a tie.
23:42And he told me if the point spread
23:44was six points or less,
23:46it was a lock.
23:47We would win.
23:48He can influence the game.
23:50If the spread in the newspaper was five points,
23:53and I knew we were going to crack down
23:55on certain things that the Houston Rockets
23:57were doing in the previous games,
23:59and Yao Ming was traveling in the post
24:02and setting illegal screens
24:03that would take away several scoring opportunities
24:06for the Houston Rockets,
24:07and that team's going to be put out at disadvantage.
24:09And it worked out great.
24:13We won about 70% to 80% of the time.
24:17We were winning.
24:19I think he was influencing the game
24:21whichever way we needed it.
24:23We were doing so good,
24:25and we were winning at such a great clip.
24:27Tommy would travel,
24:28or I was getting ready to do a game.
24:30He'd show up in a brown paper bag
24:32with the money just like in the movies
24:33and throw it on the bed,
24:35and we'd go out, and we'd have a blast.
24:36We'd go out, have a great dinner,
24:39go out to the nicest club.
24:46I made a total of $26,000 or $27,000.
24:50I think that was in a three-month period.
24:52Dunaghy says it was $30,000,
24:54which is full .
24:55But I know what I gave to Dunaghy,
24:57and it was between $100,000 and $120,000.
25:00We were winning every game,
25:02and, you know, we were getting paid.
25:03I thought at the end of the season
25:06it would be over,
25:07and Tommy would be able to control Batista
25:09and get him off my back,
25:10and everything would be done,
25:11and I definitely had no idea
25:13that the walls were closing in.
25:19I remember being on the beach
25:22in South Beach, Miami,
25:23and my phone gets an unavailable call.
25:28And I know unavailable calls aren't good.
25:33I know that.
25:34I answered the phone,
25:35and he said,
25:36hey, this is the FBI.
25:39Where are you?
25:39When are you coming home?
25:40And that's when they started asking me questions
25:42about Timmy.
25:44And that's when I knew we were
25:45.
25:46When Tommy told me, you know,
25:49the FBI had been to his house,
25:51my heart sank.
25:53Deep down, I knew I was screwed.
25:54I went to an attorney,
25:56and he ended up calling
25:57the United States attorney
25:59who was on the case.
26:00He said, listen,
26:01you give Tim Donaghy a message for me.
26:03You tell him we know what he did,
26:05we know who he did it with,
26:06and we know everything about this.
26:08He's better off coming to us
26:10before we come arrest him
26:11because if he doesn't come to us,
26:13not only is he going to lose his job,
26:15but he's going to go to jail
26:16for a long, long time.
26:17I thought that that was basically a promise
26:19for me to stay out of jail,
26:21so I got on a plane with two attorneys
26:23and went and met with them.
26:24I thought Jimmy Bautista
26:28was making a lot of small personal bets.
26:31I had no idea that Bautista
26:32was betting millions and millions of dollars
26:34and making millions and millions of dollars
26:36for people in these picks.
26:38He was charged by the FBI,
26:41so Bautista was going down,
26:43and Martino and I
26:45were going down with him.
26:47I think the NBA wanted it to go away
26:49because Donaghy started saying,
26:51I'll wear a wire,
26:52and I'll wear it in the locker rooms,
26:53and I'll prove to you
26:55that the NBA's doing this.
26:57I think it was a situation
26:58where the United States Attorney
27:00was trying to protect the integrity
27:01of the NBA
27:02as if everything I was saying wasn't true.
27:05And in fact, it was true,
27:06in my opinion.
27:09A lot of people want to say,
27:10well, you know,
27:11the games have to be fixed,
27:12but the FBI and the NBA
27:14went over all the game tapes
27:16and said that I never fixed the game,
27:18and I had one of the highest call percentages
27:20of any referee on the staff,
27:21so it's not like I was going out there
27:23and fixing the games.
27:24I think I was just going out there
27:26and calling what the league wanted to call,
27:28and that's what we did.
27:28If Tim tells you that he wasn't influencing the games,
27:33I think it's not true
27:34because we won at a 80% clip.
27:37He used to tell me that
27:38if a guy's foot was close to the inbound line
27:40and we needed the call,
27:42he would make that call.
27:43I pled guilty to gambling and wire fraud
27:52and was sentenced to 15 months.
27:56I was ultimately convicted of wire fraud
27:59and sentenced to a year and a day.
28:04It was very troublesome to me
28:06that I took responsibility for my part in this,
28:09but yet the NBA acted like I was one bad apple
28:12that did this by myself
28:14and they had nothing to do with it.
28:15You know, no doubt about it,
28:16it was David versus Goliath
28:18and me taking on the NBA,
28:20what I said versus what they said.
28:24We think we have here
28:26a rogue, isolated criminal.
28:30There's been some speculation
28:30that we knew that Donaghy
28:32was betting this season
28:34and nevertheless let him work.
28:36That's not true.
28:37This is not something that
28:39is anything other than an act of betrayal.
28:42I don't want to blame anyone
28:44for the stupid choices that I made,
28:46but, you know, the bottom line is
28:47I'd be in the NBA going close to my 30th year
28:51with guys that I grew up with,
28:53but I threw it all the way.
28:55It's something that I really regret.
28:57My name's Justin DeLoretto.
29:25Everybody calls me Mooch.
29:26And I was a leader
29:28in one of the most dangerous
29:29motorcycle clubs in America.
29:35You know, as a child,
29:36I remember my dad having motorcycles
29:37because generally I remember
29:39they were loud
29:39and me and my brother
29:40were riding like power wheels
29:41and big wheels
29:42and all those things.
29:43It was the era
29:43where we rode bicycles all over town.
29:45We kind of always had that
29:46like out on two wheels
29:47spending time together.
29:48So I think I've been hooked
29:49to that really early.
29:50I fell in love with motorcycles pretty quick
29:58and then I got obsessed.
29:59I mean, riding motorcycles is a rush.
30:01It's just you out there.
30:02Nothing.
30:02There's nothing surrounding you.
30:03There's no protection.
30:04It's just you can literally see the road
30:06flying by as you're going.
30:08There's a lot more risk or danger
30:10if you make one little mistake
30:11than there is in a car.
30:12or like you can't be texting
30:13or eating like you're focused.
30:19I joined the Mongols in 2007
30:21and one of the things
30:22I knew about the Mongols
30:23is they have a rule
30:23that no members are allowed
30:24to fight each other.
30:25They say that there's nothing
30:26two brothers can't sit down
30:27and talk out.
30:28And so that resonated huge with me.
30:30I mean, the whole goal
30:31of being in a motorcycle club
30:32is the brotherhood,
30:33being there for each other
30:34and doing things together.
30:36And then you start spending time
30:37on the road with these guys
30:38and we live outside of the law.
30:39We don't ask cops for help.
30:40We don't press charges.
30:41and if something happens to us,
30:43we're going to take care
30:44of it on our own.
30:44These kind of things
30:45are all in place
30:46to like keep the brotherhood intact.
30:47There's a rival club
30:48and you're there to protect
30:49your brother or defend your club.
30:51You're expected to do that.
30:52So there's definitely
30:53a danger piece
30:54that comes with that too
30:54is you're expected to die
30:56for your brothers essentially.
30:59The Mongols are one of the biggest
31:00national clubs at this time.
31:01So it was like I just joined
31:02the big leagues.
31:04And I remember part of me
31:05being just ecstatic,
31:05like I'm a Mongol now.
31:06This is what's up.
31:07And the other part being like,
31:08man, if there's any Hells Angels here,
31:09they're going to shoot at me.
31:11It's super well known
31:13that the Mongols
31:13and Hells Angels have,
31:14you know, been at it
31:15since the 70s.
31:16I mean, for years.
31:18And it's pretty much
31:18on site between the two.
31:20If a Hells Angel sees a Mongol,
31:21he's likely going to try
31:22and attack you
31:23and then vice versa.
31:25There's all sorts of ideas
31:26of what started that war.
31:27One of the biggest things
31:28is the Hells Angels
31:29were the big dominant club
31:30in California.
31:31And the Mongols
31:31started feeling like
31:33Southern California
31:34was more their area.
31:35And so they started
31:36shooting each other.
31:37Well, the Hells Angels
31:38started killing Mongols.
31:39They shot the president
31:41and vice president
31:42off their motorcycles,
31:43killed them both.
31:44And then at the funeral,
31:45they had a car with a bomb in it
31:46and blew it up.
31:50Well, the Mongols
31:50were starting chapters
31:51in new states
31:52around the country.
31:54I wanted to start
31:54the very first chapter
31:55in Oregon.
31:56We were brand new
31:57to this state
31:57where there was only
31:58four other clubs before.
32:00Territory plays a big role
32:01in the motorcycle scene.
32:02And moving into new areas
32:03could be really dangerous.
32:04The other clubs
32:05didn't want us there.
32:05So those four clubs
32:07banded together
32:08to essentially say
32:09they were going to push us out,
32:10which means with violence, right?
32:11And because I was in leadership,
32:12I was the number one target.
32:15At that time,
32:16I'm getting ready
32:17to drive to Portland.
32:18I'm by myself.
32:19I'm going down
32:19our long quarter-mile driveway.
32:21And here comes
32:22an all-black SUV
32:23coming towards me.
32:26They see me
32:27and they stop.
32:29So we kind of have this,
32:30I want to say stare-off,
32:31except that we couldn't see
32:32through the windshield.
32:35So they kind of started
32:37to turn around.
32:39Now I'm following them.
32:40We're going to the end
32:40of the driveway.
32:42My heart rate was elevated
32:43and this is one of those moments
32:45where I had that internal talk
32:46where I was like,
32:46should I just ignore
32:47and go left?
32:49Well, they took a right.
32:50And for whatever reason,
32:51I chose to take a right
32:52and follow them south.
32:55And at this point,
32:56I speed up
32:56because I want to get next to them,
32:57look in the window,
32:58see is it someone I recognize
32:59that they look like bikers
33:00or are they an older couple
33:02that got lost?
33:04There you are.
33:05There you are.
33:06Every time I sped up
33:07to get next to them,
33:07they would take off.
33:10And so now,
33:11obviously I'm wondering
33:12what's going on.
33:13And they started like
33:14actively eluding me,
33:15going in and out of traffic.
33:17We're just north of Salem
33:18and the rival gang.
33:19The Gypsy Jokers had a clubhouse
33:20right off this exit.
33:23Like, Oregon was
33:24the Joker's territory
33:25and they did not want
33:26Mongols in it.
33:27All of a sudden,
33:27this SUV,
33:28it gets off on that exit.
33:29So now I'm getting ready
33:30for a biker war.
33:31So I follow them
33:32off the exit.
33:33Well, the Gypsy Jokers
33:34clubhouse was down
33:34on a couple side streets
33:35on a cul-de-sac.
33:37But you could see it
33:37from a main road.
33:38I wasn't about to follow
33:39these dudes down a cul-de-sac
33:40and get stuck.
33:43So I pulled into a gas station
33:44where I could see
33:45the clubhouse.
33:47Well, they pull up
33:48to the Gypsy Jokers clubhouse.
33:51And they cracked their window
33:53just far enough
33:53that I could see a hand.
33:55And he did this to me,
33:56pointed like a finger gun at me.
33:58It became very clear
34:01at this point
34:02that these were not
34:02lost people
34:03that took a wrong turn.
34:05I wasn't sure
34:06if this was Gypsy Jokers,
34:07if this was Hell's Angels.
34:09All I knew
34:09is they were there
34:10to hurt me.
34:16There's no doubt
34:17that star players
34:18needed to be treated differently.
34:20In the NBA,
34:21there was a lot of times
34:22where Charles Barkley
34:23was very difficult
34:24to deal with.
34:25One time,
34:26I ended up calling
34:27a technical foul on him.
34:29And he said he didn't do
34:30what I felt that he did.
34:32And the coach
34:33was giving me a hard time.
34:34And after it was over,
34:36in the locker room,
34:37I showed the tape
34:37to the coach.
34:38And he said that I was right.
34:40And he went in
34:41and said something to Barkley.
34:42And when I was in the shower,
34:44Barkley came into
34:45the referee's locker room,
34:46took all the Gatorades
34:47out of the cooler
34:48and dumped a big bucket
34:49of ice water
34:50over my head
34:51in the shower
34:52and ran out laughing.
34:53And two other referees
34:55in the locker room
34:56at the time said,
34:57you can turn him in
34:58and he'll get suspended.
34:59He'll get fined
35:00or you can let it go
35:01and he'll be your buddy
35:03for life.
35:03So I ended up
35:04letting it go.
35:05And every time I saw him,
35:06he always gave me
35:07a wink and a nod
35:08and really never
35:08bothered me again.
35:13And my heart was racing
35:14and waiting for a door
35:15to open anything
35:16so I could see
35:17who they were.
35:17They turned around
35:18and they started going
35:19back towards the interstate.
35:20And so now I'm thinking
35:21they know I'm not at home,
35:22so are they going
35:22back to my house?
35:23So I had to make sure
35:24that they weren't there
35:25for me
35:25and that my family
35:26was going to be safe.
35:26When I get back
35:27on the interstate south,
35:28we're back in this chase.
35:31And so now I'm locked in.
35:32Every time I try
35:33to get next to them
35:34to get an ID,
35:34they would weave
35:35in and out of traffic
35:35or speed up.
35:39And I noticed
35:40they were heading
35:40towards Eugene,
35:41which was a major city.
35:42We had a chapter there.
35:43That's when I called
35:44the Eugene brothers
35:44and told them
35:45that I needed their help
35:46identifying who this car was
35:47and laid out the plan
35:48where I wanted them
35:49to sit on the side
35:49of the road
35:50and I would tell them
35:50when to merge with traffic
35:51and let's get next
35:52to these guys
35:52and see if we could
35:53see who they were.
35:59Yeah, all right.
36:00No, no, I see you guys.
36:01All right, yeah, yeah.
36:02And so as we get into town,
36:03we were in communication
36:04and I'd say,
36:05okay, we're coming up
36:05on the overpass.
36:06These guys get on the interstate.
36:07So now we've got cars
36:08and motorcycles
36:09chasing this SUV.
36:10It got to the point
36:12where we started realizing
36:13that these guys
36:13aren't going to pull over.
36:14So then our next idea is,
36:15well, let's box them in.
36:18As we're driving,
36:19we're all on the phone
36:19and we're communicating
36:20back and forth.
36:22And by now,
36:23we're close enough
36:23where to say,
36:24okay, you're on the front right,
36:25you pull in front.
36:25And once he pulls in front,
36:26you get next to him.
36:27So we just kind of
36:28orchestrated it on the fly.
36:29And so it was easier
36:30to get the cars
36:31kind of around him.
36:32Well, the car
36:33that was in front of him,
36:33our car,
36:34got in front and slammed
36:35on their brakes
36:35because he was trying
36:36to stop them.
36:40All of their lights
36:41turned red and blue.
36:42Instantly, we realized,
36:43these dudes are cops.
36:46We just pulled over
36:47the law, right?
36:48So now it went from
36:49these are enemies
36:49to these are cops.
36:51And so everyone
36:52I was with took off.
36:54More than anger,
36:55I had questions.
36:56Why didn't they identify
36:57themselves as cops?
36:57Why did they run from me?
36:59Why didn't they hit
36:59their lights sooner?
37:00Like, I just had all these
37:01questions more than anything.
37:04I pull into a shop
37:05shopping mall,
37:06like a big parking lot.
37:07The SUV turns around
37:08and it faces me,
37:08but it kept its distance
37:09and no one would
37:10get out of the car.
37:11So we had this weird,
37:12like, stare-off.
37:13So I'm sitting there
37:13for a minute
37:14and I look in my mirror
37:15and there's about 13 cops
37:17surrounding me,
37:17maybe more.
37:18I mean,
37:18it was just a dozen cops
37:19all around my car,
37:20guns out,
37:21telling me to get
37:22out of the car.
37:23So obviously I comply,
37:24but I'm nervous.
37:27And finally,
37:28one of the two guys
37:29gets out of the car
37:30and it's an ATF agent.
37:31I had met this ATF agent
37:32once before
37:33when he warned me
37:34that the other clubs
37:35in Oregon
37:35were out Mongol hunting
37:36and there was a threat
37:37on me and the Mongols.
37:38And he was walking up
37:39towards me shaking his head
37:40saying,
37:40Mooch, Mooch, Mooch.
37:42He was joking around.
37:43He was laughing about it.
37:44He's saying,
37:44hey man,
37:45that was a game
37:45of cat and mouse.
37:46We were just going to see
37:47how long you'd follow us,
37:48see who'd run out of gas first.
37:49Like, he was making it a joke.
37:50And he goes,
37:51but I don't see you
37:52doing anything wrong.
37:53They're probably going to
37:53cut you loose here
37:54in a minute.
37:54and the next thing you know,
37:56I'm in the back
37:57of a police car
37:58going to jail.
38:03And in the interrogation,
38:05I asked all sorts of questions.
38:06Why didn't you identify yourself
38:07as law enforcement?
38:08How come you didn't call me
38:09if you have my phone number?
38:10Like, all those things.
38:11And then they got up and left
38:12and said,
38:13well, we're going to book you.
38:14And I said, for what?
38:15Initially, they said
38:16attempted assault.
38:17And I said, okay,
38:18what a joke, right?
38:19I'll be out in the jails.
38:20We're all overcrowded.
38:21Attempted assault.
38:22Sure, I'll be kicked out
38:22in the morning.
38:23And I'm sitting there
38:24in the room
38:24getting ready to see a judge
38:25and they slide my indictment
38:27under the door
38:27and had attempted
38:28to commit kidnapping,
38:29conspiracy to commit kidnapping,
38:31all against federal agents.
38:32Since I forced them
38:33to move from one direction
38:34to another,
38:35from going from the center lane
38:36to the fast lane,
38:37that that was kidnapping
38:37because I made them go
38:39in a direction
38:39they didn't want to go.
38:40I was facing the rest
38:41of my life in prison.
38:44They had offered me
38:44a plea bargain.
38:45If I pled guilty
38:46to the unlawful use
38:47of a weapon,
38:48I would do two years
38:49in prison.
38:50But I was absolutely innocent.
38:52You know,
38:52I didn't do anything wrong.
38:53and I really wanted this
38:54to come out in court.
38:55So I denied the plea bargain
38:56and I took it to trial
38:57and ended up being found
38:59not guilty
38:59of all the felony charges
39:00and I was found guilty
39:01of menacing
39:02and reckless driving.
39:03So, you know,
39:04I did the two months
39:05leading up to it.
39:05A day after being sentenced,
39:07I was released
39:07due to jail overcrowding
39:08and my sentence
39:09was commuted
39:09to road crew
39:10and community service.
39:12I went on a high-speed
39:12police chase
39:13where I chased the cops
39:14and basically
39:15got away with it.
39:16So I served
39:21a full 24 months.
39:23Prison time for me
39:23was actually
39:24relatively easy.
39:25I did a lot of art.
39:26I tattooed in prison.
39:27You weren't supposed
39:28to tattoo in prison
39:28but I tattooed in prison
39:29anyway.
39:30And I realized that
39:31tattooing was my calling
39:33and that's what
39:34I'm supposed to be doing.
39:35So now I'm a professional
39:36tattoo artist.
39:38As long as I'm breathing
39:39and I'm not in prison,
39:40there's always going
39:41to be a future.
39:42So you can't really
39:42think about the past.
39:43You can't let the past
39:44affect who you are now.
39:45You work on yourself
39:46every single day
39:47and that's just
39:48what life is.
39:49It's just day by day
39:50and step by step.
39:56So when I was in jail,
39:58I was a barber there.
40:01I honed my skills there.
40:05And I'm a barber
40:06ever since.
40:06I'm booked solid
40:07tomorrow night,
40:08Friday night,
40:09and Saturday.
40:10Swamped.
40:11Haircuts every 15 minutes.
40:14I think Batista
40:15and his crew
40:16made millions of dollars
40:17per game
40:18and I was getting
40:18$2,000 per correct pick.
40:20You would like to think
40:21I had a million dollars
40:22buried somewhere.
40:23I'd like to tell you
40:24that I did,
40:24but unfortunately I don't.
40:27I'm in real estate.
40:27I have several rental properties
40:29and basically a landlord.
40:32I think when you take
40:33accountability for
40:34something that you do wrong,
40:36people tend to
40:37understand more,
40:39but just the stigma
40:40of it always around
40:42and that's what people
40:42want to talk about
40:43can be tough.
40:44Everybody makes mistakes.
40:46Some people's mistakes
40:48are for the world to see.
40:49With hard work
40:50and determination,
40:52you can get through things
40:53and you can get back
40:54to where you want to be.
40:57I'd spent 15 years
40:59of my life in that club
41:00and decided it was time
41:01for me to leave the Mongols
41:02and move on with my life.
41:04After leaving the club,
41:05I got really focused
41:06back on my work.
41:07I'm a social worker.
41:08I do multi-systemic therapy
41:09for teens that are on
41:10parole probation,
41:11so I get to give back.
41:12We're trying to help kids
41:12stay out of the system
41:13or navigate the system
41:14when they're in it.
41:16Young Me was always
41:17about this reputation
41:18of tough guy, right?
41:19I wanted to be known
41:20as a tough guy.
41:21And with everything
41:21I've been through
41:22and where I am now in life,
41:23I just want to be known
41:23as a good guy.
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