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The Celebrity Traitors Uncloaked S01E01
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00:00Hello there and welcome to the Celebrity Traitors Uncloaked, the official visualised podcast hosted
00:05by me, Ed Gamble. The wait is finally over. 19 celebrities have entered the game to try and
00:11win as much money as they can for charity, all while the faithful amongst them attempt to catch
00:15the traitors, who are working to stab them in the back. And things on Uncloaked will remain mostly
00:21the same, but with some added fun. I got to go up to the traitor's castle in Scotland and
00:26exclusively reveal to the banished and murdered faithful who the traitors are straight after
00:31they left the game. Now, before I go any further, I think it's time for a spoiler warning. If you
00:36haven't watched the first episode of the Celebrity Traitors, then get your eyeballs onto BBC iPlayer
00:40right now. So, what's coming up in our very first episode? I'll be joined by three traitor stars from
00:47Games Gone Past. Wilf from Season 1, Harry from Season 2, and Mina from Season 3. We'll discuss
00:53grave digging, Trojan horses, and that all-important traitor's pick. Plus, we'll get stuck into that
00:59cliffhanger. Who did Alan Carr choose to murder in plain sight? Not a sentence I ever thought I'd say.
01:10Wilf, Harry, Mina, welcome to the show. Straight away, I need a one-word reaction from all of you for
01:17that first episode. Mina, you first, please. Impactful. Wilf? Memeable? Memeable. Is that an
01:24actual word? I don't know, but memeable. I'm going for that. I feel like if you want to coin a new
01:28term on quotes, that's... There you go. Memeable. Memeable. Insane. Insane. Insane. Right, okay. Insane.
01:34Yeah. Impactful. Memeable. Now, in future episodes, we will, of course, be joined by all the murdered
01:40and banished celebs who leave the castle. And even though we didn't get a murder or a banishment
01:44tonight, there's still loads to discuss. So let's start with the traitor's pick, where
01:48Claudia selected Kat, Alan and Jonathan. And I think the tone was perhaps set best by Alan.
01:54I want to be a traitor. Oh, God, Alan. No, no. You will have to stab people in the back.
02:05They'd do it to me. They're showbiz people. I'd do it to them. You know what celebrities are like.
02:11They're two-faced. I love him. I love him so much.
02:14So let's start with Alan. Mina, he clearly wants the job, but do we think he'll be any
02:19good at it? You know what? Sometimes in life, you really want things that probably aren't
02:23best for you. I imagine, like, if you've got... If you can't have dairy, you may still
02:29want cheese on your burger. Yeah. And I feel like that's what we've just watched.
02:32So you're saying Alan is the traitor's equivalent of lactose intolerance?
02:35Yes. Yes. But I love it. I just love the way he said, well, Claudia asked him, do you want
02:44to be a traitor? And he said, yes. And he just went... I just think that was brilliant.
02:47He says that celebs are two-faced, but he's got one face and it's sweating and giggling.
02:53Like, if you're looking for changes of behaviour, Harry, do you think you would have spotted that
02:56if you were at the round table? Do you think if you were a traitor with Alan, you would have
02:59immediately known even before you had the first conclave? I don't know, because everyone
03:03will expect him. Like, that's too obvious. You know, he's already sweating at asking what
03:06he's had for dinner or, like, do you want my glass of rosé? He's already sweating because
03:10he doesn't know what to do. Yeah. So I think it's a perfect cover-up. I also think Alan Carr
03:15would have been the same regardless if he was a traitor or not. I do think your personality
03:20is your personality. So I think he would have been nervous at the thought of who are the
03:24traitors if he was a faithful. So he would have been sweating regardless. Yeah. And that's
03:28what I mean. And to add on to that, it's like he's the perfect choice because he has that
03:33open book about him. You know, like, what you see is what you get with him. He's going
03:36to make the jokes. You're not going to know whether to trust him or believe him, because
03:39he'll make all of them jokes either way. You know, like, when he's joking about being
03:43on Claire's side and, like, he doesn't want to get rid of her yet. Like, he would never.
03:47It's like, people are just going to see him as being him. Yeah. And then, so it's easier
03:51for him to keep that secret that he actually is a traitor. But you're saying this, right?
03:55Yeah. But I'm imagining Kate Garroway, if she did what she did to Cat Burns and held
04:00the hands and go, are you a traitor? Yeah. I can't imagine him reacting in a way where
04:05she wouldn't believe he's a traitor. Yeah. Well, he'd laugh and sweat. And everyone will
04:09think that's just him. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. But I think Mina's point is that he
04:13would do that whether he was a traitor or not. Do you reckon? Yeah. And people, I think
04:18people expect Alan Carr to be a laugh and to giggle throughout everything. So I think
04:22it would have been worse if he'd gone suddenly serious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see how
04:26it goes for Alan. Jonathan Ross was also picked. Another huge personality. Wilf, talk us through
04:33how you think the dynamic will play out between the traitors. Is it good to have two loud voices
04:37in the traitors? No. I think Jonathan's going to take lead. Cat's going to let him take the
04:43lead and let him think that he's in the lead. And Alan's going to be like the first person
04:49to throw under the bus if they need to. Hence why they said, you picked the flower. It's
04:53more obvious that you can touch people's faces. Yeah. I think Jonathan Ross as well. He's
04:57doing the job that he's done for so long. He knows people. He probably knows a lot of
05:01them more than other people know each other. So I think he's going to lead the pack.
05:07What about Cat Burns though? Yeah. She's going to be amazing. She's going to be sick. Cat is in there
05:11with two big personalities. Yeah. And it's obviously slightly quieter, but it's clearly
05:15thinking about the game and clearly has a game plan. And Cat is a massive fan of the show. Yeah.
05:20She's a massive, being a massive traitors fan, I think in itself is an advantage because you've
05:26watched it. You've tried to analyse it. And I don't think you have to be allowed to be a traitor.
05:31If anything, being quiet is a good thing. Well, Harry, you were like the quieter one out of your
05:36traitors because you had Paul and Ash in there. I was going to say like, it was kind of,
05:40because I never had seen the traitors when I went on the show. So I thought that was my advantage.
05:44I didn't really know what was going on. So half the time I was a bit like,
05:46oh, I just let these two do it. You know, like I didn't know what was going on. But at the same
05:49time, I was also very much like her quiet because like she said, the loud ones are what attracts you
05:54to them, but then not being too quiet. I think she's going to get that perfect balance. And that's the
05:58hardest thing with the game is you have to be quiet, but not too quiet. And then you have to be loud,
06:03but not too loud. So you need to find that perfect balance in the middle, which I think she's going to find
06:07prior to Claudia's picks with, were these the three that you're expecting to see as traitors,
06:11or was there anyone you thought might have been better in the turret? I thought Tom Daly would
06:16have made it. I mean, he's straight into the game, isn't he Tom? You can tell he wants to get involved.
06:21Yeah. Really wanted to see Nico as well, because obviously he's a prankster and it would have been
06:26fun to see him playing pranks on people, I guess, like during the turret. That would have been cool.
06:30I think during it, when we, before we watched it, we all thought we wanted Cat Burns to be,
06:35we all agreed. We was like, we really want Cat Burns to be a traitor. And then when we seen Alan's
06:41interview, we were like, he has to be a traitor. He has to be one. It's going to be the best.
06:45And when he got tapped, we started screaming because he got tapped. We're like, yes,
06:49this is going to be the best.
06:50It's very exciting. It's so good. That's where you want to see him. Alan floundering
06:55is the funniest Alan. So a few words from each of you then on Jonathan, Cat and Alan. Out of 10,
07:02how strong a traitors team is this? Wilf, let's start with you. I'm going to say 10,
07:08just for the fact that everybody brings something different to the table. And Alan's a good sacrificial
07:13lamb for now. I know it sounds really bad, but if you needed to, you'd be able to crumble him.
07:19You'd have so much evidence. What about you, Mina? I feel like 10 was a really high number,
07:26but now I also want to give them a 10. I'm going to go with a nine. I think they are going to work
07:30together. I don't see anyone throwing anyone under the bus anytime soon. I think Alan's going to be
07:35a great traitor. He reminds me of a girl in the American one who also was a little bit like
07:42flustered and all over the shop. She made it to the final. So I feel like they're going to work
07:46well together. I think they will recruit before any one of the three of them is banished.
07:52And Harry? I would give it a strong eight. I think eight's for one my favourite number,
07:57actually, by the way. And two, I just think they're an amazing team and they all seem to
08:02have taken their place. And they're going to be a strong team who works as, like you said,
08:06Jonathan Ross will be that. The leader, Cat Burns is the chilled one. So they're not going to be
08:10fighting for like a position. I just don't think that what would have made it a 10 for me is that
08:14maybe there's a fourth traitor in there or someone who's going to be the backstabber. I want to see
08:19someone getting rid of the traitors inside of the traitors. It's all about the backstabbing,
08:24but I don't see any of them backstabbing each other. Now, there are, of course, 16 other players
08:29in the game, all with different skill sets and talents. And Stephen Fry was able to pick out one
08:34person in particular when they first arrived in the castle. Because you were famous for barging
08:40into places and pretending to be things you aren't. How do you know that? Oh, I have a sticky
08:46memory. Wow. Stephen Fry knows who I am. The one thing which I wanted was to be kind of unknown to
08:53everyone. Now, everyone's going to see me as a conniving prankster. A tricky thing for Nicker,
08:59because I think he was really relying on people not knowing who he was in there. But it turns out
09:04Stephen Fry loves YouTube. We're going to see him popping up in a Mr. Beast video.
09:08Can we just say, describing your memories? I've got a sticky memory. Yeah, keep it clean, Stephen.
09:16Brilliant. But yeah, Nico, I think he's going to really surprise us. I think he's going to be a
09:22really good faithful. When we first started speaking, just before we started watching the show,
09:28we was like, he's going to cause havoc because that's just who he is. But I think he's going
09:31to really surprise people just for the fact of he is where he is because he's super intelligent as
09:37well. He's mad intelligent. I don't think anybody should dumb that down just because he does pranks.
09:41But I think he's going to surprise people and be quite a good faithful and get evidence and put
09:45it together. I think that's going to be a surprise. We'll see the true him, which will be nice to see.
09:51Yeah. Do you think he's coming across as trustworthy so far?
09:55Yeah, 100%. It's kind of weird seeing him not his like energetic, pranky self or trying to get
10:00something out of someone. I think the whole situation has sort of taken him back. And now
10:04he knows he's not a traitor. He needs to sort of be like, OK, I'm in this game now to try and find
10:08out who it is. So we've got a few comedians in the group. We've got Lucy Beaumont, Joe Wilkinson,
10:12Nick Muhammad, and of course, Traitor Alan. Meena, do you think humour plays an important part in
10:17disarming people in there? Yeah, I think being funny, making people laugh in the hardest of
10:23moments really helps you form those relationships. Nick is my favourite person ever.
10:29Yeah, he's lovely. When he was doing the mission, that little puzzle was the sexiest thing I've ever
10:34seen. He was just, he was working so, it was like, and then the key just appears. I thought,
10:40I said to these two, that was the sexiest thing I've ever seen in my life. It's brilliant.
10:47Well, I'll let Nick know next time I see him.
10:51Also, the humour thing, right? You talk about the humour. Well, Alan Carr, when he goes,
10:56all right, must have took her back to the Vegas days, pulling that lever like that,
11:01you know, and made everyone laugh. It's such a good way to cover up.
11:03Do you think that puts people off thinking you're a traitor?
11:06A hundred percent.
11:07And also like, for us, it's good because we know how long you're there for and like,
11:11you're connecting with people and the connections you build. Obviously, they might have connections
11:15that they built outside of it, which is different to us. But when you're in there and it's so intense
11:19and it's so high pressure on your shoulders and everyone's stressed, the people who make you laugh
11:24are the people you want there by your side. They give you an escape of what's actually going on.
11:28And okay, like I don't have to stress for a bit or this pressure's gone because they're making me laugh.
11:32Yeah.
11:33So they're the people that people will want around them. So then that really helps being the funny one.
11:38Um, there's loads of actors in the group too. We've got Ruth, Tamika, Mark, Celia. Um, Wilf,
11:44do you think the ability to mask your true thoughts and feelings is of use or is being genuine a bit
11:50more of an effective strategy?
11:51I just think trying to be as genuine as possible, it's going to go further. I remember Maddie.
11:56As soon as we found out she was an actress, we were like, yeah, she's acting the whole thing.
12:00Yeah. She's not a real person.
12:02Yeah.
12:02So I think if they try to become a character, like they're going to know, aren't they?
12:06And I think it's just best trying to be as genuine as possible.
12:08Yeah.
12:08I think we had an actor, but she didn't know she was an actor, Charlotte.
12:11Do you remember? She said she was Welsh and she wasn't.
12:13That's acting.
12:14That's acting, yeah.
12:16Let's go back to the start of the episode when the celebs were chauffeured up to the Traitor's Castle,
12:20but when they arrived, Claudia decided to do something a little bit different to kick things off.
12:25So players, good luck. It's time to save yourselves in three, two, one, dig.
12:36I was like a T-Rex or a kangaroo, but then I tipped forward and I was like that.
12:50Right, Celia, I'm going to help you first.
12:52Why?
12:53Nick, did you find your own shield?
12:54No.
12:56So shields in this game can be a help or a hindrance.
12:59Do they bring unwanted attention sometimes?
13:01Yeah, if you give it up like Charlotte did, and now people think she's potentially a traitor,
13:06because it's just insane. You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't with this game.
13:12I would always try for a shield. Whether you're a traitor or a faithful, always try for a shield.
13:17It's just how you play it, isn't it?
13:19Yeah.
13:19It can always be a double bluff, just like everything in this game.
13:21Yeah.
13:22A shield can be the best thing, but also the worst thing, depending on how you play it.
13:26If you give it up straight away, then all it takes is someone to say, well, that's odd.
13:30But if you win it, it's like, well, we need to go for it, because I don't want to be murdered tonight.
13:34Also, six shields.
13:35Six is a lot.
13:36I was going to say, when they said six shields, I was like, wow, that's a lot of shields.
13:38Six shields and then a murder in plain sight. So not only are you trying to find someone to
13:41murder in plain sight, you've got to have in your head that six of them you have to avoid.
13:46Yeah, but one of them is a traitor.
13:48Yes, that's true.
13:49And Charlotte's gave hers back, so really, we're down to four now.
13:52Yeah.
13:52Celia, by the way, I would be so scared of her if I was a traitor.
13:55No same.
13:55Because I remember Nanny McPhee, right, that was like the scariest thing when I was growing up as a kid.
13:59I remember I used to have nightmares because she was the step-mum who was nasty step-mum.
14:03She's sort of like someone you want on your side, because I feel like if she's got a hunch
14:06or she's going for someone, they're going down.
14:08Yeah.
14:09So I would be best mates with her, 100%.
14:11Also, she's just got that rebellious quality where she will do the opposite of what everyone
14:15else does just because she feels like it, which is dangerous.
14:18Definitely.
14:19Harry, though, to your point, I don't know if I'd want to be friends with her.
14:22My bestie, Nick, was helping her dig up a shield.
14:25And then she was like, sus.
14:26Yeah.
14:27They hadn't even got to the castle.
14:28Yeah.
14:28Nobody's even beaten a dragon.
14:30She was like, I don't trust him.
14:31I was like, wow, okay.
14:33Nick selflessly came to help me in my grave before he even looked for his shield.
14:40And I'm thinking, he's absolutely adorable.
14:43Or is he up to something?
14:46I just love him.
14:48We know what you think, me.
14:52I think he thought, she deserves one for whatever reason.
14:56So he thought, let me help you.
14:58But then I think in doing that, she's now got this thing in the back of her head where,
15:02why have you done that?
15:03Why you and not the other people?
15:04Yeah.
15:05So sometimes being nice isn't...
15:08It doesn't work out.
15:08But then also it might.
15:09I think creating alliances is definitely what you need.
15:12I always say this, one of the best pieces of advice going into the traitors is you have
15:16to trust someone, just hopefully not the wrong person.
15:18Because building alliances is what you need.
15:20Because if you're there alone, when you have thoughts of who it is, there's no one to back
15:25you.
15:25There's no one to jump on your bandwagon.
15:27But also if you come under fire, if you have no team around you, you're a goner.
15:31The strategy when we went in was we've seen groups forming.
15:34It was just like murder someone from the group, like just get rid of the alliances.
15:38If you're faithfuls and the traitors are watching you create this alliance,
15:41they're like, I'll just break it up.
15:42Do you know what I mean?
15:43Just get rid of it.
15:44I think the added complication of the celebrity traitors is a lot of the players know each
15:49other already.
15:50Mina, do you think this is going to make things harder for the traitors?
15:53One hundred percent.
15:55If you already know somebody, I think in your head, you're like, I'll know when they act
16:00different.
16:00So you're going to second guess people.
16:02And I think the faithful will actually knock each other out without realising because of that.
16:07I mean, one thing it does rule out is any secret relationships that are going to be
16:11revealed.
16:12If you say that.
16:12If it turns out Alan Carr, Stephen Fry's son.
16:15That would be amazing.
16:18I think it'd be, I'd just murder my closest allies straight away.
16:22If I was a traitor and I was friends with people in there, get rid of them.
16:24Can I move couches?
16:26No, no, no.
16:27You would because then it just takes people up.
16:30Would he really just get rid of his really good friend?
16:33See, I'm against it.
16:34You guys are so different from me.
16:36I know.
16:36No, just because I think, like, I'm just saying, though, like, that when that's when
16:43you when you leave people in who are random, that's when they start throwing out random
16:46accusations.
16:46And if they don't know you, they're just they could wake up one day and go, I think it's
16:50him and create a lie about you.
16:51And then it's like, well, if you have someone in there who knows you, it's like, you know,
16:54I wouldn't do that to you.
16:55You know, like, we can work together through this.
16:57So if you have friends in there, I'd keep them close, but keep your enemies closer.
17:01But like, I would keep my friends in there for a bit because it's so early on.
17:04Yeah.
17:04Just get rid of people who are random who you don't really have a connection to because
17:07they won't try and notice the change.
17:10Now, Jonathan Ross is obviously a very famous interviewer and broadcaster.
17:14Do you think, Wilf, that his interview skills and his listening skills are going to help
17:18him in the game?
17:19I think he that's what he did say.
17:20He did say that as well, didn't he?
17:21That when you're interviewing people, it's a lot of listening, right?
17:25But will he share that information with the others?
17:27That's what makes me think is going to be his strength is being able to take, extract
17:33things from people like you do when you interview.
17:35But is he going to share that with the other traitors?
17:37If he gets bits of knowledge here that they're looking at, maybe Cat Burns, someone mentions
17:41her and he gets that out of someone.
17:43Does he go back to the traitor and tell them?
17:44I'm not sure he will.
17:46Alan said that he'd have no problem backstabbing people, even, you know, you know, people that
17:50he knows obviously in there.
17:52Is it difficult, Harry, to remove emotion from the gameplay?
17:55Not really.
17:56It's a game.
17:57The game's a game.
17:58They're all there for a reason.
17:59And that's to play the game.
18:00For us, it would have been a lot easier.
18:01Don't get me wrong.
18:02Because we didn't actually know each other.
18:03Yes.
18:04So it was very easy to take the emotion away from it.
18:06Because it's like, I've known these people for however long we've been playing the game,
18:09when there's people at home who love me, you know, like I'm here for them.
18:12I personally found it quite hard as the weeks got on to remove the emotion from it.
18:17Because as much as Harry, heartless Harry over here, saying, I've got people at home,
18:22these people mean nothing to me, those people became my family.
18:25So then it got a bit harder to kind of separate the game and the emotions.
18:30Then also, you don't know how they feel because Claudia has so much aura about her
18:33and sets the scene.
18:34They're like, for us, it's like when you go there, oh, this is cool.
18:36It's like TV show, whatever.
18:38And then as soon as she walks into the room, it's like, oh, it's actually going down.
18:41Yeah.
18:41And I think that's what's going to happen to them.
18:43Obviously, we've just seen episode one and they think this is a bit of a laugh,
18:46like we're on the traitors, blah, blah, blah.
18:47As soon as someone's murdered, someone gets banished and they have their first round table.
18:51That will all change.
18:52It gets so good.
18:53Stop it.
18:54That's the thing that Claudia brings to the game.
18:57That's when you're going to see the real switch.
18:59Yeah, yeah.
18:59That's when we're here after episode one.
19:02We've seen a lot, but we haven't seen enough.
19:04So when the first round table happens, the first breakfast and pretend Alan Carr pretending
19:08he hasn't murdered someone, it's going to be amazing.
19:12But that part is where you're really going to be able to go, actually, Alan's great or Alan's bad
19:17or this or that.
19:18That's where you're going to be able to do it from the first breakfast.
19:21It's going to be the first sign of how they're going to go.
19:23So at the end of tonight's episode, the traitors were tasked with murdering their first faithful,
19:28but with a twist.
19:29It had to be in plain sight.
19:31What is this?
19:44Traitors.
19:45Tonight, you must murder in plain sight.
19:49To do this, you must find the poisoned black lily somewhere in the castle.
19:56You must find this deadly flower.
19:58Rub your hands with the poisoned pollen.
20:02And touch the face of the faithful you want to murder.
20:07Wilf and Harry, you were both involved in murders in plain sight.
20:10What's going to be going through their heads as they build up to do this?
20:12Ours was a kiss of death.
20:14So, and ours was like in the middle of the series, I think.
20:18So for me, it was like, I've not kissed one person.
20:21So all of a sudden, I'm going to kiss someone?
20:23Yeah.
20:23It's not for me.
20:24Like, so me and Amanda were like, look, you do it.
20:26It's just more, if I do it, it's a bit more suss.
20:28And I don't want the responsibility of doing it.
20:31So yeah, I just pushed on to Amanda.
20:33Amanda Merda Deimos.
20:35And that was it, mate.
20:36The funniest thing about it all, though, is that we, for example, understand the paranoia.
20:41It's actually like, because you think everyone knows what's going on.
20:43Yeah, but they don't.
20:44As soon as you walk in, you see that letter.
20:45Like Alan did, it's like, oh gosh, what's going on here?
20:48Yeah.
20:48And then when they come out, I can only imagine how they're feeling.
20:51Like, you're so paranoid that everyone knows what you're up to.
20:53Yeah.
20:53That's why they're pacing up and down.
20:55But actually, someone seeing you is like, they're just seeing you like normal.
20:58Walking.
20:58But you don't see it from that point of view.
21:00They are getting harder as well.
21:01Yeah, yeah.
21:01I think you're touching someone's face.
21:03How do you even build up to that?
21:05Yeah.
21:05It's like, you go up to Celia Emery and go, got your nose.
21:07Is that...
21:07Yeah.
21:08That's a good idea, though.
21:09Yeah.
21:09Because no one would think that's a bit weird.
21:10Until she loses her nose.
21:11They would definitely think that was weird.
21:13Yeah.
21:14Yeah, or just go up to Claire Baldy and go, boop.
21:17It's a really hard one.
21:18Yeah, it's a different one.
21:19Like I said earlier, I do think they have got lucky that it's right at the start of the game.
21:24Yeah.
21:24Even though there's so many people in the castle, it's like for Alan, for example,
21:29he's doing it now.
21:29So he's sort of taking the hit now.
21:31And it makes sense, like we've said, he would be the one out of all three to do something like that.
21:36And because he's doing it so early on, that could help him in the future,
21:40because he can then say to the other two, I've done my bit.
21:42Now it's down to you two, and it's only going to get harder from here.
21:45Do you think the decision is going to be impacted by who Alan knows?
21:49Because obviously, there are relationships within the castle.
21:52This is obviously, it has to be a crime of opportunity, doesn't it?
21:55Yeah, I think this is the time where Wilf's killing your friends thing makes sense,
21:59because that's the only person that I think you can get away with this so early towards.
22:04100%.
22:04So it's going to have to be, whether he wants you or not, somebody that he knows,
22:07somebody that he's met before or worked with or interviewed,
22:10and it's just going to have to be them.
22:11That's it.
22:12But also, shout out to Jonathan as well, because he didn't just let him do it.
22:15You know, Pat sort of took her back.
22:17He went and took the lid off and stuff, and that was perfect.
22:20Because again, he's not doing too much, but not doing too little.
22:23So he's freed up the opportunity for him to go in and rub a leaf.
22:26But again, if someone saw you doing that, you'd have to spend the rest of the time in the castle,
22:30just like rubbing everything.
22:31I didn't.
22:32I never thought I said to shout out to Jonathan, because he got everyone out of the way.
22:35He even opened the lid.
22:36So he set the pathway for him to do it, instead of just being like, you've got to do it.
22:41Yeah, he was helpful.
22:41I never thought this morning when I woke up that I would come here and be talking
22:44about Alan Carr touching other celebrities' faces.
22:48It's just such a random.
22:49That's the traitors for you.
22:50Let's talk about the mission.
22:52It was epic in its scale, as you might expect from the traitors.
22:55But it wasn't able to pass without causing some drama.
23:00Well, we can start trying.
23:01Mercutius.
23:06No.
23:06Oh, shit.
23:07I've locked it in and I didn't mean to.
23:08You've locked it in.
23:09What?
23:10No.
23:10What?
23:11What?
23:11Why?
23:12Why did...
23:12I didn't realise I locked it in.
23:14What was it?
23:14Sorry.
23:15I thought, oh, we can guess lots of numbers.
23:18So while they're working that out, I'll just stick a number in.
23:21I think it was like a combination lock and you can start trying lots of numbers.
23:24Anyway, that was it, because the lever didn't go back up again.
23:27I feel so sorry for her.
23:30I feel so bad for her.
23:32I mean, it's very...
23:33This is a TV exclusive.
23:34Claire Balding doing something wrong.
23:35Oh, honestly.
23:38So Tom Daly, Joe Muller and Claire Balding, obviously all from the world of sport.
23:42Deeply competitive people.
23:44Harry, is competitiveness something that you think you need in the game?
23:47Definitely.
23:48I think it's something you need in life.
23:49You should want to go there and want to win.
23:51And obviously them being athletes and like world-class athletes as well and Olympian
23:55is what's going to make them really competitive and want to win.
23:59That also brings in the teamwork too.
24:01And like you've seen in that mission,
24:02they all took a lead in a certain different type of role in that mission.
24:06And again, that's going to help because Tom Daly, for example, being a faithful,
24:10you know, any of them being, they're all faithfuls.
24:12That will help because as a traitor, if you see that Tom Daly running all the way back to,
24:17if I'm a traitor, I can't be asked to do that.
24:19So I'm going to keep him in so he can do that every mission.
24:21Yeah.
24:21Early on through the missions,
24:23the only way to save yourself is to be the best at the missions.
24:25That's how, that's how people feel at the beginning, later on different,
24:29but at the beginning, I think showing yourself.
24:30Do you think it puts you in the spotlight a bit though as well, being competitive?
24:33Being a bit too competitive as Claire displays in that mission is also the downfall of some people.
24:39So she was obviously so like excited and desperate for the team to get to the end of that mission
24:46that she didn't even read the little plaque that was in front of her.
24:49She pulled that, which locked in the answer,
24:51which then meant somebody had to sacrifice a shield for them to proceed.
24:56Automatically, people are like, that's traitor behavior.
24:58Yeah.
24:58And it was so innocent because she was doing it to help,
25:01but I think she was just too competitive in that moment.
25:03Mm.
25:03It's like that whole, again, are you doing too much?
25:07Mm.
25:07The whole way through the traitors, whether it's about being a traitor, being a faithful,
25:10being competitive, trying to take the lead, you've got to find that perfect balance.
25:14Yeah.
25:14And it's the same with the competitiveness.
25:15If you're doing too much, people realize that and use it against you.
25:18Yeah.
25:18If you're doing too little, you're not doing enough.
25:20Wilf, do you think this could be a problem for her?
25:22Yes.
25:23We call it invisible biscuits in my life.
25:27What?
25:27People look for...
25:28So basically, people are looking for crumbs of evidence that don't actually exist.
25:32Right.
25:32Right.
25:33So it doesn't exist.
25:34There is no evidence.
25:35Yeah.
25:35At the beginning of the game, really.
25:37Mm-hmm.
25:37So any little thing that happens, people jump on it, and it becomes that herd mentality thing.
25:42So someone will go, oh, yeah, Claire did it.
25:44Yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:45Because they've got no other evidence on anything else.
25:47Mm-hmm.
25:47So they will just go on whatever they can possibly find.
25:49I love that.
25:50Do you mind if we use invisible biscuits on Cloak moving forward?
25:53We can use that, yeah.
25:54So look, this is a big question so early on, but do we have any predictions on who might make the final?
25:59Harry, let's start with you.
26:00I'm going against the grain.
26:02Yeah.
26:02My man, Alan Carr.
26:03Yeah.
26:04Yeah.
26:04I just think he's going to be so bad, he's good and great.
26:06And I will happily pass him the crown if he does it.
26:09What about you, Mina?
26:10I think Tom Daly. I think Tom's going to get recruited as a traitor. Well, I hope he does,
26:15because I think he would be really good at transitioning from faithful to traitor, like Charlotte last year.
26:23I think Kat's going to make it to the final. I think my boy Nick's going to make it to the final.
26:29Are you saying traitors or faithful?
26:31Oh, traitors every day. Yeah.
26:33What about you, Wilf? Who do you think is going to make the final?
26:35Nick, I think he's got, he seems like he's got a really calm, nice persona and he'll be really good at missions.
26:40It seems he's got quite a high IQ, but that's not known to everybody, apart from doing that puzzle.
26:46But everybody's threatened by Stephen Fry because he's mad intelligent.
26:51Does anyone else think that Stephen Fry is coming across like a teenage goth?
26:55A teenage goth?
26:56I see what you mean.
26:57Because in the car, everything he says is just, I know the game's about death, but like they're in the car.
27:01And they're like, oh, it's so impressive. Oh, look, the castle. And then he went, but what awaits us is a blizzard of horror.
27:11And then they're looking at the portraits being like, oh, I was so excited to be here.
27:13He's like, it's a pity they'll all be covered in red dresses soon.
27:16Yes.
27:17Yes.
27:17He is basically narrating the show as we go along.
27:20He really is. He's very good at that.
27:22Picking up books off the shelf going, diseases of the chest.
27:26And the thing is, they went back from the mission.
27:28And everyone's looking for traitors. And he's like, I want to see how many people died in Hamlet.
27:32Yes.
27:32Yeah, he was not sleeping until he knew that.
27:35Well, we've run out of time here, but don't worry.
27:38The chat will continue on BBC Sounds in our extra bonus episode.
27:42We're going to learn more about post-castle life with Mina, Harry and Wilf.
27:45And the three of them will also be temporarily taking over traitor duties.
27:49And we'll decide who to befriend, who to kill and who to recruit.
27:53It's all in the bonus episode of the Celebrity Traitors Uncloaked in your BBC Sounds app right now.
27:58Find that in your app store, or you can scan the QR code below if you're one of the cool kids.
28:03And here's something fun for the new season.
28:05I'm in it.
28:06Not just on Uncloaked, but I actually feature in this series of the Celebrity Traitors as a fun Easter egg.
28:11Or Easter egg, if you like.
28:14See if you can spot me.
28:15We'll be back again tomorrow night after episode two, where some of our celebrity cast will be joining me to unpack all the latest goings on in the Celebrity Traitors castle.
28:23A massive thanks to Wilf, Harry and Mina for joining in the fun.
28:28I'm Ed Gamble. Stay faithful.
28:35New drama with Amy, Lou Wood and Saran Jones.
28:38A quirky Manchester rom-com new film club on iPlayer.
28:42And taking the plunge with strangers, new couples stranded on Honeymoon Island Australia.
28:47Press Red to watch now.
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