The Celebrity Traitors Uncloaked UK Season 1 Episode 1

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00:00Hello there and welcome to the Celebrity Traitors Uncloaked, the official visualized podcast hosted

00:05by me, Ed Gamble. The wait is finally over, 19 celebrities have entered the game to try and

00:11win as much money as they can for charity, all while the faithful amongst them attempt to catch

00:15the traitors, who are working to stab them in the back. And things on Uncloaked will remain mostly

00:21the same, but with some added fun. I got to go up to the traitor's castle in Scotland and

00:26exclusively reveal to the banished and murdered faithful who the traitors are straight after

00:31they left the game. Now, before I go any further, I think it's time for a spoiler warning. If you

00:36haven't watched the first episode of the Celebrity Traitors, then get your eyeballs onto BBC iPlayer

00:40right now. So, what's coming up in our very first episode? I'll be joined by three traitor stars from

00:47Games Gone Past. Wilf from Season 1, Harry from Season 2, and Mina from Season 3. We'll discuss

00:53grave digging, Trojan horses, and that all-important traitor's pick. Plus, we'll get stuck into that

00:59cliffhanger. Who did Alan Carr choose to murder in plain sight? Not a sentence I ever thought I'd say.

01:10Wilf, Harry, Mina, welcome to the show. Straight away, I need a one-word reaction from all of you for

01:17that first episode. Mina, you first, please. Impactful. Wilf? Memeable? Memeable. Is that an

01:24actual word? I don't know, but memeable. I'm going for that. I feel like if you want to coin a new

01:28term on quotes, that's... There you go. Memeable. Memeable. Insane. Insane. Insane. Right, okay. Insane.

01:34Yeah. Impactful. Memeable. Now, in future episodes, we will, of course, be joined by all the murdered

01:40and banished celebs who leave the castle. And even though we didn't get a murder or a banishment

01:44tonight, there's still loads to discuss. So let's start with the traitor's pick, where

01:48Claudia selected Kat, Alan and Jonathan. And I think the tone was perhaps set best by Alan.

01:54I want to be a traitor.

01:58Oh, God, Al.

02:00Oh, no.

02:01You will have to stab people in the back.

02:05They'd do it to me. They're showbiz people. I'd do it to them. You know what celebrities are like.

02:11They're two-faced.

02:12I love him. I love him so much.

02:14So let's start with Alan. Mina, he clearly wants the job, but do we think he'll be any

02:19good at it?

02:19You know what? Sometimes in life, you really want things that probably aren't best for you.

02:24I imagine, like, if you've got... If you can't have dairy, you may still want cheese on your

02:30burger.

02:30Yeah.

02:30And I feel like that's what we've just watched.

02:32So you're saying Alan is the traitor's equivalent of lactose intolerance?

02:35Yes.

02:37Yes.

02:37But I love it. I just love the way he said, well, Claudia asked him, do you want to be

02:44a traitor? And he said, yes. And he just went... I just think that was brilliant.

02:47He says that celebs are two-faced, but he's got one face and it's sweating and giggling.

02:51Like, if you're looking for changes of behaviour, Harry, do you think you would have spotted

02:56that if you were at the round table? Do you think if you were a traitor with Alan, you

02:59would have immediately known even before you had the first conclave?

03:02I don't know, because everyone will expect him. Like, that's too obvious. You know, he's

03:05already sweating now asking what he's had for dinner or like, do you want my glass of

03:08rosé? He's already sweating because he doesn't know what to do. So I think it's a perfect

03:12cover-up.

03:13I also think Alan Carr would have been the same, regardless if he was a traitor or not.

03:18I do think your personality is your personality. So I think he would have been nervous at the

03:23thought of who are the traitors if he was a faithful. So he would have been sweating

03:26regardless.

03:27Yeah. And that's what I mean. And to add on to that, it's like he's the perfect choice

03:32because he has that open book about him. You know, like what you see is what you get

03:35with him. He's going to make the jokes. You're not going to know whether to trust him or

03:39believe him because he'll make all of them jokes either way. You know, like when

03:42he's joking about being on Claire's side and like he doesn't want to get rid of

03:45her yet, like he would never. It's like people are just going to see him as being

03:49him.

03:49Yeah.

03:50And then so it's easier for him to keep that secret that he actually is a

03:53traitor.

03:53But you're saying this, right? But I'm imagining Kate Garroway, if she did what she

03:58did to Cat Burns and held the hands and go, are you a traitor?

04:02Yeah.

04:02I can't imagine him reacting in a way where she wouldn't believe he's a traitor.

04:06Yeah.

04:06Well, he'd laugh and sweat.

04:08Yeah, he'd laugh.

04:08And everyone will think that's just him. That's what I'm saying.

04:11Yeah, but I think Mina's point is that he would do that whether he was a

04:15traitor or not.

04:16Do you reckon?

04:16Yeah.

04:17And people, I think people expect Alan Carr to be a laugh and to giggle

04:20throughout everything.

04:21So I think it would have been worse if he'd gone suddenly serious.

04:24Yeah.

04:25Yeah.

04:25So we'll see how it goes for Alan.

04:28Jonathan Ross was also picked another huge personality.

04:32Wilf, talk us through how you think the dynamic will play out between the

04:35traitors.

04:35Is it good to have two loud voices in the traitors?

04:38No, I think Jonathan's going to take lead.

04:41Kat's going to let him take the lead and let him think that he's in the lead.

04:46And Alan's going to be like the first person to throw under the bus if they need

04:50to.

04:50Hence why they said, you picked the flower.

04:53It's more obvious that like you could touch people's faces.

04:55Yeah.

04:55I think Jonathan Ross as well.

04:57He's doing the job that he's done for so long.

04:59He knows people.

05:00He probably knows a lot of them more than other people know each other.

05:03So I think he's going to lead the pack.

05:07What about Kat Burns though?

05:08Yeah, she's going to be amazing.

05:09She's going to be sick.

05:11Kat is in there with two big personalities.

05:13Yeah.

05:13And it's obviously slightly quieter, but it's clearly thinking about the game and

05:17clearly has a game plan.

05:18And Kat is a massive fan of the show.

05:20Yeah.

05:21She's a massive, being a massive traitors fan, I think in itself is an advantage

05:25because you've watched it, you've tried to analyse it.

05:29And I don't think you have to be allowed to be a traitor.

05:31If anything, being quiet is a good thing.

05:34Well, Harry, you were like the quieter one out of your traitors because you had

05:37Paul and Ash in there.

05:38I was going to say like it was kind of, because I never had seen the traitors when

05:42I went on the show.

05:43So I thought that was my advantage.

05:44I didn't really know what was going on.

05:45So half the time I was a bit like, oh, I just let these two do it.

05:47You know, like I didn't know what was going on.

05:49But at the same time, I was also very much like her, quiet because like she said,

05:53the loud ones are what attracts you to them.

05:55But then not being too quiet, I think she's going to get that perfect balance.

05:58And that's the hardest thing with the game is you have to be quiet,

06:00but not too quiet.

06:01And then you have to be loud, but not too loud.

06:03So you need to find that perfect balance in the middle,

06:05which I think she's going to find.

06:07So prior to Claudia's picks, were these the three that you're expecting to see

06:11as traitors or was there anyone you thought might have been better in the turret?

06:14I thought Tom Daly would have made it.

06:17Yeah, we're saying that to you.

06:17I mean, he's straight into the game, isn't he, Tom?

06:19You can tell he wants to get involved.

06:21Yeah.

06:22Really wanted to see Nico as well, because obviously he's a prankster.

06:25And it would have been fun to see him playing pranks on people,

06:28I guess, like during the tights.

06:29That would have been cool.

06:30I think during it, when we, before we watched it,

06:33we all thought we wanted Cat Burns to be, we all agreed.

06:36We was like, we really want Cat Burns to be a traitor.

06:38And then when we seen Alan's interview,

06:42we were like, he has to be a traitor.

06:44He has to be one.

06:45It's going to be the best.

06:46And when he got tapped, we all started screaming.

06:48Because he got tapped.

06:49We're like, yes, this is going to be the best.

06:50It's very exciting.

06:51That's where you want to see him.

06:54Alan floundering is the funniest Alan.

06:57So a few words from each of you then on Jonathan, Cat and Alan.

07:01Out of 10, how strong a traitor's team is this?

07:04Wilf, let's start with you.

07:05I'm going to say 10,

07:08just for the fact that everybody brings something different to the table.

07:12And Alan's a good sacrificial lamb for now.

07:15I know it sounds really bad, but if you needed to,

07:18you'd be able to crumble him.

07:19You'd have so much evidence.

07:20I'm sorry.

07:23What about you, Mina?

07:24I feel like 10 was a really high number,

07:26but now I also want to give them a 10.

07:27I'm going to go with a 9.

07:29I think they are going to work together.

07:31I don't see anyone throwing anyone under the bus anytime soon.

07:34I think Alan's going to be a great traitor.

07:37He reminds me of a girl in the American one

07:40who also was a little bit flustered and all over the shop.

07:44She made it to the final.

07:45So I feel like they're going to work well together.

07:47I think they will recruit before any one of the three of them is banished.

07:52And Harry?

07:53I would give it a strong 8.

07:55I think 8's, for one, my favourite number, actually, by the way.

07:58One fact.

07:58And two, I just think they're an amazing team

08:01and they all seem to have taken their place.

08:04And they're going to be a strong team who works.

08:06Like you said, Jonathan Ross will be that leader.

08:08Cat Burns is the chilled one.

08:10So they're not going to be fighting for a position.

08:12I just don't think...

08:13What would have made it a 10 for me is that

08:14maybe there's a fourth traitor in there

08:17or someone who's going to be the backstabber.

08:18I want to see someone getting rid of the traitors

08:20inside of the traitors.

08:22So you're on, though.

08:22It's all about the backstabbing,

08:25but I don't see any of them backstabbing each other.

08:26Now, there are, of course, 16 other players in the game,

08:30all with different skill sets and talents.

08:32And Stephen Fry was able to pick out one person in particular

08:35when they first arrived in the castle.

08:38Because you were famous for barging into places

08:41and pretending to be things you aren't.

08:43How do you know that?

08:44Oh, I have a sticky memory.

08:47Wow.

08:48Stephen Fry knows who I am.

08:50The one thing which I wanted was to be kind of unknown to everyone.

08:54Now, everyone's going to see me as a conniving prankster.

08:58A tricky thing for Nico,

09:00because I think he was really relying on people

09:02not knowing who he was in there.

09:03But it turns out Stephen Fry loves YouTube.

09:06We're going to see him popping up in a Mr Beast video.

09:09Can we just say, describing your memory as...

09:11I've got a sticky memory.

09:12Yeah, keep it clean, Stephen.

09:13Yeah, I was like, OK, mate.

09:17Brilliant.

09:17But yeah, Nico, I think he's going to really surprise us.

09:20I think he's going to be a really good faithful.

09:23When we first started speaking,

09:26just before we started watching the show,

09:28we was like, he's going to cause havoc.

09:29Because that's just who he is.

09:31But I think he's going to really surprise people

09:33just for the fact of he is where he is

09:35because he's super intelligent as well.

09:38He's mad intelligent.

09:39I don't think anybody should dumb that down

09:40just because he does pranks.

09:41But I think he's going to surprise people

09:43and be quite a good faithful

09:44and get evidence and put it together.

09:46I think that's going to be a surprise.

09:49We'll see the true him, which will be nice to see.

09:51Yeah.

09:51Do you think he's coming across as trustworthy so far?

09:55Yeah, 100%.

09:56It's kind of weird seeing him

09:57not his energetic, pranky self

09:59or trying to get something out of someone.

10:01I think the whole situation has taken him back

10:03and now he knows he's not a traitor.

10:05He needs to be like, OK, I'm in this game now

10:07to try and find out who it is.

10:09So we've got a few comedians in the group.

10:11We've got Lucy Beaumont, Joe Wilkinson,

10:12Nick Muhammad and, of course, Traitor Alan.

10:15Mina, do you think humour plays an important part

10:17in disarming people in there?

10:19Yeah, I think being funny,

10:21making people laugh in the hardest of moments

10:24really helps you form those relationships.

10:28Nick is my favourite person ever.

10:30Yeah, he's lovely.

10:30When he was doing the mission,

10:32that little puzzle,

10:33it was the sexiest thing I've ever seen.

10:35He was just,

10:36he was working so far.

10:37It was like,

10:38and then the key just appeared.

10:40I thought, I said to these two...

10:41Mina was blown away.

10:42That was the sexiest thing

10:43I've ever seen in my life.

10:46It's brilliant.

10:47Brilliant.

10:48Well, I'll let Nick know

10:49next time I see him.

10:51Also, the humour thing, right?

10:53You talk about the humour.

10:55Alan Carr, when he goes,

10:57all right, must have took her back

10:58to the Vegas days,

10:59pulling that lever like that,

11:01you know, and made everyone laugh.

11:02It's such a good way to cover up...

11:03Do you think that puts people off

11:05thinking you're a traitor?

11:06Yeah, 100%.

11:07And also, like, for us,

11:08it's good because we know

11:09how long you're there for

11:10and, like, you're connecting with people

11:12and the connections you build.

11:13Obviously, they might have connections

11:15that they built outside of it,

11:16which is different to us.

11:17But when you're in there

11:18and it's so intense

11:19and it's so high pressure

11:21on your shoulders

11:21and everyone's stressed,

11:23the people who make you laugh

11:24are the people you want there

11:25by your side.

11:26Because they give you an escape

11:27of what's actually going on

11:28and, okay, like,

11:29I don't have to stress for a bit

11:30or this pressure's gone

11:31because they're making me laugh.

11:33Yeah.

11:33So they're the people

11:33that people will want around them.

11:35So then that really helps

11:37being the funny one.

11:39There's loads of actors

11:40in the group

11:40too.

11:41We've got Ruth, Tamika,

11:42Mark, Celia.

11:44Wilf, do you think

11:45the ability to mask

11:46your true thoughts

11:47and feelings is of use

11:48or is being genuine

11:50a bit more of an effective strategy?

11:52I just think

11:52trying to be as genuine

11:54as possible

11:54is going to go further.

11:55I remember Maddie.

11:57As soon as we found out

11:58she was an actress,

11:58we were like,

11:59yeah, she's acting

12:00the whole thing.

12:00She's not a real person.

12:02So I think if they try

12:03to become a character,

12:05they're going to know,

12:05aren't they?

12:06And I think it's just best

12:06trying to be as genuine

12:07as possible.

12:08I think we had an actor

12:09but she didn't know

12:10she was an actor.

12:11Charlotte, remember?

12:12She said she was Welsh

12:13and she wasn't.

12:14That's acting.

12:14That is acting.

12:16Let's go back

12:16to the start of the episode

12:17when the celebs

12:18were chauffeured up

12:19to the Traitor's Castle

12:20but when they arrived,

12:21Claudia decided

12:21to do something

12:22a little bit different

12:23to kick things off.

12:24So players,

12:26good luck.

12:28It's time to save yourselves

12:29in

12:30three

12:32two

12:33one

12:35dig.

12:39I was like a T-Rex

12:41or a kangaroo

12:42but then I tipped forward

12:44and I was like that.

12:49Right, Celia,

12:51I'm going to help you first.

12:52Why?

12:53Nick, did you find

12:54your own shield?

12:54No.

12:56So shields in this game

12:57can be a help

12:58or a hindrance.

12:59Do they bring

13:00unwanted attention sometimes?

13:02Yeah, if you give it up

13:03like Charlotte did

13:04and now people think

13:05she's potentially a traitor

13:06because she,

13:07like, it's just insane.

13:09You're damned if you do,

13:10you're damned if you don't

13:11with this game.

13:12I would always try

13:13for a shield.

13:14Whether you're a traitor

13:15or a faithful,

13:16always try for a shield.

13:17It's just how you play it,

13:19isn't it?

13:19Yeah.

13:19It can always be a double bluff

13:20just like everything

13:21in this game.

13:22A shield can be

13:23the best thing

13:23but also the worst thing

13:24depending on how you play it.

13:26You know,

13:26if you give it up

13:27straight away

13:27then all it takes

13:28is someone to say

13:29well that's odd

13:29but if you win it

13:30it's like,

13:31well,

13:31we need to go for it

13:32because I don't want

13:33to be murdered tonight.

13:34Also six shields.

13:35I was going to say

13:36when they said six shields

13:37I was like,

13:38wow, that's a lot of shields.

13:38Six shields

13:39and then a murder

13:39in plain sight.

13:40So not only are you

13:41trying to find

13:41someone's murder

13:42in plain sight,

13:42you've got to have

13:43in your head

13:43that six of them

13:45you have to avoid.

13:46But one of them

13:47is a traitor.

13:48Yes, that's true.

13:49And Charlotte's

13:50gave hers back

13:51so really

13:51we're down to four now.

13:53Celia, by the way,

13:53I would be so scared

13:54of her if I was a traitor.

13:55No, same.

13:55Because I remember

13:56Nanny McPhee, right,

13:57that was like

13:57the scariest thing

13:58when I was growing up

13:59as a kid.

13:59I remember I used

14:00to have nightmares

14:00because she was

14:01the stepmum

14:01who was nasty stepmum.

14:03She's sort of like

14:03someone you want

14:04on your side

14:05because I feel like

14:06if she's got a hunch

14:06or she's going for someone

14:07they're going down.

14:09So I would be

14:09best mates with her

14:10100%.

14:11Also, she's just got

14:12that rebellious quality

14:13where she will do

14:14the opposite

14:15of what everyone else does

14:16just because she feels

14:16like it

14:17which is dangerous.

14:18Definitely.

14:19Harry, though,

14:19to your point

14:20I don't know

14:20if I'd want to be

14:21friends with her.

14:22My bestie Nick

14:23was helping her

14:24dig up a shield

14:25and then she was like

14:26suss.

14:27They hadn't even

14:27got to the castle.

14:29Nobody's even

14:29been a traitor.

14:30She was like

14:30I don't trust him.

14:31I was like

14:31wow, okay.

14:33Nick selflessly

14:34came to help me

14:36in my grave

14:38before he didn't

14:39look for his shield

14:40and I'm thinking

14:41he's absolutely

14:42adorable

14:43or

14:44is he up to

14:45something?

14:47I just love him.

14:48We know what you

14:49think, Mina.

14:52I think he

14:53thought

14:53she deserves

14:54one for whatever

14:55reason

14:55so he thought

14:57let me help you

14:58but then I think

14:58in doing that

14:59she's now got

15:00this thing in the

15:01back of her head

15:01where why have

15:02you done that?

15:03Why you and not

15:04the other people?

15:05So sometimes

15:06being nice

15:07isn't

15:08It doesn't work out

15:08but then also

15:09it might

15:09I think creating

15:10alliances is

15:11definitely what you

15:12need.

15:12I always say this

15:13like one of the

15:14best pieces of

15:14advice is going

15:15into the traitors

15:15is you have to

15:16trust someone

15:16just hopefully

15:17not the wrong

15:17person

15:18because building

15:19alliances is

15:19what you need

15:20because if you're

15:21there alone

15:22when you have

15:23thoughts of who

15:24it is

15:24there's no one

15:25to back you

15:25there's no one

15:26to jump on

15:26your bandwagon

15:27but also if you

15:27come under fire

15:28if you have no

15:29team around you

15:30you're a goner.

15:31The strategy

15:31when we went in

15:32was we've seen

15:33groups forming

15:34it was just like

15:35murder someone

15:36from the group

15:36like just get rid

15:37of the alliance

15:38if you're faithfuls

15:39and the traitors

15:40are watching you

15:40create this alliance

15:41they're like

15:41I'll just break it up

15:42do you know what

15:43I mean

15:43just get rid of it

15:44I think the added

15:45complication of the

15:46celebrity traitors

15:47is a lot of the

15:48players know each

15:49other already

15:49Mina do you think

15:51this is going to

15:51make things harder

15:52for the traitors?

15:53100%

15:54if you already know

15:56somebody

15:56I think in your

15:58head you're like

15:58I'll know when

15:59they act different

16:00so you're going to

16:01second guess people

16:02and I think the

16:03faithful will actually

16:05knock each other

16:06out without realising

16:07because of that

16:07I mean one thing

16:08it does rule out

16:09is any secret

16:10relationships that

16:10are going to be

16:11revealed

16:11if it turns out

16:13Alan Carr

16:13Stephen Fry's son

16:14that would be

16:16amazing

16:16I think it'd be

16:19I'd just murder

16:20my closest allies

16:21straight away

16:22if I was a traitor

16:23and I was friends

16:24with people in there

16:24get rid of them

16:25can I move couches?

16:27like you would

16:28because then it

16:29just takes people

16:30out

16:30would he really

16:31just get rid of

16:32his really good

16:32friend?

16:33see I'm against it

16:34you guys are so

16:35different from me

16:36I know

16:36just because

16:36I think like

16:37I'm just saying

16:40though

16:41that's when you

16:43leave people in

16:44who are random

16:45that's when they

16:45start throwing out

16:46random accusations

16:47and if they don't

16:47know you

16:48they could wake up

16:49one day and go

16:50I think it's him

16:50and create a lie

16:51about you

16:51and then it's like

16:52well if you have

16:53someone in there

16:53who knows you

16:54it's like you know

16:55I wouldn't do that

16:55to you

16:55you know like

16:56we can work

16:56together through this

16:57so if you have

16:58friends in there

16:59I would keep them

16:59close

17:00but keep your

17:00enemies closer

17:01but like I would

17:02keep my friends

17:03in there for a bit

17:03because it's so

17:04early on

17:04just get rid of

17:05people who are

17:05random who you

17:06don't really have

17:06a connection to

17:07because they won't

17:08try and notice

17:08the change

17:09now Jonathan Ross

17:10is obviously a

17:11very famous

17:12interviewer and

17:13broadcaster

17:14do you think

17:15Wilf that his

17:16interview skills

17:17and his listening

17:17skills are going

17:18to help him in the

17:19game

17:19I think that's

17:19what he did

17:20say he did say

17:21that as well

17:21didn't he that

17:22when you're

17:23interviewing people

17:23it's a lot of

17:24listening right

17:25but will he share

17:26that information

17:26with the others

17:27that's what makes

17:28me think is

17:29going to be his

17:30strength is being

17:31able to take

17:32extract things

17:33from people

17:34like you do

17:34when you interview

17:35but is he going

17:36to share that

17:36with the other

17:37traitors if he

17:37gets bits of

17:38knowledge here

17:39that they're

17:39looking at

17:40maybe Kat Burns

17:40someone mentions

17:41her and he gets

17:42that out of

17:42someone does he

17:43go back to the

17:44traitor and tell

17:44them I'm not sure

17:45he will

17:45Alan said that

17:46he'd have no

17:47problem backstabbing

17:48people even you

17:49know people that

17:50he knows obviously

17:51in there is it

17:53difficult Harry to

17:53remove emotion

17:54from the gameplay

17:55not really it's a

17:56game the game's a

17:58game they're all

17:58there for a reason

17:59and that's to play

18:00the game for us it

18:01would have been a lot

18:01easier don't get me

18:02wrong because we

18:02didn't actually know

18:03each other yes so it

18:04was very easy to take

18:05the emotion away from

18:06it because it's like

18:07I've known these

18:08people for however

18:09long we've been

18:09playing the game

18:09when there's people

18:10at home who love

18:11me you know like I'm

18:12here for them I

18:13personally found it

18:13quite hard as the

18:15weeks got on to

18:16remove the emotion

18:17from it because as

18:18much as Harry heartless

18:20Harry over here

18:20saying I've got

18:22people at home these

18:23people mean nothing

18:23to me those people

18:24became my family so

18:26then it got a bit

18:26harder to kind of

18:27separate the game and

18:29the emotions then

18:30also you don't know

18:30how they feel because

18:31Claudia has so much

18:32aura about her and

18:33sets the scene

18:34they're like for us

18:35it's like when you go

18:36there oh this is cool

18:36it's like TV show

18:38whatever and then as

18:38soon as she walks

18:39into the room it's

18:39like oh it's actually

18:40going down and I

18:42think that's what's

18:42going to happen to

18:43them obviously we've

18:43just seen episode one

18:44and they think this is a

18:45bit of a laugh like

18:46we're on the traitors

18:47blah blah blah as

18:48soon as someone's

18:48murdered someone gets

18:49banished and they have

18:50their first round table

18:51that will all change

18:52stop it that's the

18:55thing that Claudia

18:56brings to the game

18:57that's when you're

18:58going to see the real

18:59switch yeah that's

19:00when we're here after

19:01episode one we've seen

19:02a lot but we haven't

19:03seen enough so when

19:05the first round table

19:05happens the first

19:06breakfast and pretend

19:07Alan Carr pretending

19:08he hasn't murdered

19:09someone it's going to

19:10be amazing but that

19:12part is where you're

19:13really going to be

19:14able to go yeah

19:15actually Alan's great

19:17or Alan's bad or

19:18this or that that's

19:19where you're going to

19:19be able to do it

19:20from the first

19:20breakfast it's going to

19:22be the first sort of

19:22sign of how they're

19:23going to go so at the

19:24end of tonight's

19:25episode the traitors

19:25were tasked with

19:26murdering their first

19:27faithful but with a

19:29twist it had to be in

19:30plain sight

19:31to do this you must find

19:51the poison black lily

19:53somewhere in the castle

19:54you must find this deadly

19:57flower rub your hands

19:59with the poison pollen

20:01and touch the face of

20:04the faithful you want

20:06to murder

20:06Will Van Harry you

20:08were both involved in

20:09murders in plain sight

20:10what's going to be going

20:11through their heads as

20:12they build up to do

20:12this

20:13ours was a kiss of

20:14death so and ours was

20:16like in the middle of

20:17the series I think so

20:18for me it was like I've

20:20not kissed one person

20:21so all of a sudden I'm

20:22going to kiss someone

20:23yeah it's not for me

20:24like so me and Amanda

20:25were like look you do

20:26it it's just more if I

20:27do it it's a bit more

20:28sus and I don't want

20:29the responsibility of

20:30doing it like so yeah

20:33I just pushed it on to

20:33Amanda Amanda Merda

20:34Deimos and and that

20:35was it mate

20:36the funniest thing about

20:37it all though is like

20:38we for example

20:39understand the paranoia

20:40it's actually like

20:41because you think

20:42everyone knows what's

20:42going on

20:43as soon as you walk

20:44in you see that letter

20:45like Alan did it's like

20:46oh gosh what's going on

20:48here yeah and then

20:48when they come out I

20:49can only imagine how

20:50they're feeling like

20:51you're so paranoid that

20:52everyone knows what

20:53you're up to

20:53yeah that's why

20:54they're pacing up and

20:54down but actually

20:55someone's seeing you

20:56is like they're just

20:57seeing you like normal

20:58but you don't see it

20:59from that point of view

21:00they are getting harder

21:01as well

21:01yeah yeah

21:02how do you even

21:04build up to that

21:05it's like you go up

21:06to Celia Imre

21:06and go got your nose

21:07yeah that's a good

21:09idea though

21:09because no one would

21:10think that's a bit

21:10weird until she

21:11loses her nose

21:12they would definitely

21:12think that was weird

21:13yeah or just go up

21:15to Claire Bordy

21:15and go boop

21:16it's a really hard one

21:18yeah it's a difficult one

21:19like I said earlier

21:20I do think they have

21:21got lucky that it's

21:23right at the start

21:23of the game

21:24even though there's

21:25so many people in the

21:26castle

21:27it's like for Alan

21:28for example

21:29he's doing it now

21:30so he's sort of

21:30taking the hit now

21:31and it makes sense

21:32like we've said

21:33like he would be

21:34the one out of all

21:34three to do something

21:35like that

21:36and because he's

21:37doing it so early on

21:38that could help him

21:39in the future

21:40because he can then

21:41say to the other two

21:41I've done my bit

21:42now it's down to you two

21:43and it's only going

21:44to get harder from here

21:45do you think the

21:46decision is going to

21:47be impacted by who

21:48Alan knows or

21:50because obviously

21:50there are relationships

21:51within the castle

21:52this is obviously

21:53it has to be a crime

21:54of opportunity

21:55doesn't it

21:55I think this is the

21:56time where Wilf's

21:58killing your friends

21:59thing makes sense

21:59because that's the

22:01only person that I

22:02think you can get

22:02away with this so

22:03early doors

22:04so it's going to

22:05have to be whether

22:05he wants you or not

22:06somebody that he

22:07knows somebody

22:08that he's met

22:08before or worked

22:09with or interviewed

22:10and it's just going

22:11to have to be them

22:11that's it

22:12but also shout out

22:13to Jonathan as

22:13well because he

22:14didn't just let him

22:15do it

22:15you know

22:16Pat sort of took

22:17the lid off

22:19and that was perfect

22:20because again

22:21he's not doing

22:22too much

22:22but not doing

22:23too little

22:23so he's freed up

22:24the opportunity

22:24for him to go in

22:25and rub a leaf

22:26but again if someone

22:27saw you doing that

22:27you'd have to spend

22:28the rest of the

22:29time in the castle

22:30just rubbing everything

22:31that's what I'm saying

22:33to shout out Jonathan

22:34because he got

22:34everyone out of the way

22:35he even opened the lid

22:36so he set the pathway

22:38for him to do it

22:39instead of just being

22:40like you've got to do it

22:41yeah he was helpful

22:41I never thought this

22:42morning when I woke up

22:43that I would come here

22:44and be talking about

22:45Alan Carr

22:45touching other

22:47celebrities faces

22:47that's just such a random

22:49that's the traitors for you

22:50let's talk about the mission

22:52it was epic in its scale

22:53as you might expect

22:54from the traitors

22:55but it wasn't able to pass

22:57without causing some drama

22:58well we can start trying

23:01no oh shit I've locked it in

23:08and I didn't mean to

23:09no why

23:12why did I didn't realise

23:13I locked it in

23:14sorry

23:15I thought oh we can guess

23:17lots of numbers

23:18so while they're working

23:19that out

23:19I'll just stick a number in

23:21think it was like a

23:21combination lock

23:22and you can start

23:23trying lots of numbers

23:24anyway that was it

23:26because the lever

23:26didn't go back up again

23:27I feel so sorry

23:30I feel so bad for her

23:31I mean it's very

23:33this is a TV exclusive

23:34Claire Balding

23:34doing something wrong

23:35oh honestly

23:36so Tom Daly

23:39Joe Muller

23:39and Claire Balding

23:40obviously all from

23:41the world of sport

23:42deeply competitive people

23:43Harry is competitiveness

23:45something that you think

23:46you need in the game

23:47definitely

23:47I think it's something

23:48you need in life

23:49you should want to go there

23:50and want to win

23:51and obviously them

23:52being athletes

23:53and like world class

23:54athletes as well

23:55and Olympian

23:55is what's going to

23:57make them really

23:58competitive and want to

23:59win

23:59that also brings in

24:00the teamwork too

24:01and like you've seen

24:02in that mission

24:02they all took a lead

24:03in a certain different

24:04type of role

24:05in that mission

24:06and again that's going

24:07to help because

24:08Tom Daly for example

24:09being a faithful

24:10you know any of them

24:11being they're all

24:11faithfuls

24:12that will help

24:13because as a traitor

24:14if you see that

24:15Tom Daly running all

24:16the way back to

24:16if I'm a traitor

24:17I can't be asked to do

24:18that

24:18so I'm going to keep

24:19him in

24:20so he can do that

24:20every mission

24:21early on through

24:22the missions

24:23the only way to

24:24save yourself

24:24is to be the best

24:25at the missions

24:26that's how people

24:27feel at the beginning

24:28later on different

24:29but at the beginning

24:30I think showing yourself

24:31do you think it puts you

24:31in the spotlight

24:31a bit though

24:32I think being a bit

24:34too competitive

24:34as Claire displayed

24:36in that mission

24:37is also the downfall

24:38of some people

24:39so she was obviously

24:40so like excited

24:42and desperate

24:43for the team

24:44to get to the end

24:45of that mission

24:46that she didn't even

24:47read the little plaque

24:48that was in front of her

24:49she pulled that

24:50which locked in the

24:51answer

24:51which then meant

24:52somebody had to

24:53sacrifice a shield

24:53for them to proceed

24:55automatically people

24:56are like

24:57that's traitor behavior

24:58and it was so innocent

24:59because she was doing

25:00it to help

25:00but I think she was

25:01just too competitive

25:02in that moment

25:03it's like that whole

25:05again

25:05are you doing too much

25:07the whole way

25:08through the threat

25:08is whether it's

25:09about being a traitor

25:09being a faithful

25:10being competitive

25:11trying to take the lead

25:12you've got to find

25:13that perfect balance

25:14and it's the same

25:14with the competitiveness

25:15if you're doing too much

25:16people realize that

25:17and use it against you

25:18if you're doing too little

25:19you're not doing enough

25:20Wilf do you think

25:21this could be a problem

25:21for her

25:22yes

25:22we call it

25:25invisible biscuits

25:26in my life

25:27people look for

25:28so basically

25:29people are looking

25:30for crumbs of evidence

25:31that don't actually exist

25:32right

25:32so

25:33it doesn't exist

25:34there is no evidence

25:35at the beginning

25:36of the game

25:36really

25:37so any little thing

25:38that happens

25:39people jump on it

25:40and it becomes

25:41that herd mentality thing

25:42so someone will go

25:43oh yeah Claire did it

25:44yeah

25:44because they've got

25:45no other evidence

25:46on anything else

25:47so they'll just go

25:48on whatever

25:48they can possibly find

25:49do you mind

25:50if we use

25:51invisible biscuits

25:51on cloak moving forward

25:53we can use that

25:53yeah

25:53so look

25:54this is a big question

25:55so early on

25:56but do we have

25:57any predictions

25:57on who might

25:58make the final

25:59Harry let's start

26:00with you

26:01I'm going against

26:01the grain

26:02my man Alan Carr

26:03yeah

26:04I just think

26:05he's going to be

26:05so bad

26:05he's good

26:06and great

26:06and I will happily

26:08pass him the crown

26:09if he does it

26:09what about you Mina

26:10I think

26:11Tom Daly

26:12I think Tom's

26:13going to get

26:13recruited as a traitor

26:14well I hope he does

26:15because I think

26:16he would be

26:17really good

26:18at transitioning

26:19from faithful

26:20to traitor

26:21like Charlotte

26:21last year

26:22I think Kat's

26:24going to make it

26:24to the final

26:25I think

26:27my boy Nick's

26:28going to make it

26:29to the final

26:29are you saying

26:30traitors or faithful

26:31oh traitors

26:32every day

26:32yeah

26:33what about you

26:34who do you think

26:34is going to make

26:34the final

26:35Nick

26:35I think he's

26:36he's got

26:37he seems like

26:37he's got a really

26:38calm nice persona

26:39and he'll be

26:40really good at missions

26:41it seems he's got

26:41quite a high IQ

26:43but that's not

26:44known to everybody

26:45apart from doing

26:46that puzzle

26:46but everybody's

26:48threatened by

26:48Stephen Fry

26:49because he's

26:50mad intelligent

26:51does anyone else

26:52think that

26:52that Stephen Fry

26:53is coming across

26:54like a teenage goth

26:55I see what you mean

26:57because in the car

26:57everything he says

26:58is just

26:59I know the game's

27:00about death

27:00but like

27:00they're in the car

27:01and they're like

27:02oh it's so impressive

27:04oh look the castle

27:05and then he went

27:05but what awaits us

27:06is a blizzard of horror

27:07and then they're

27:11looking at the

27:12portraits being like

27:13oh I'm so excited

27:13to be here

27:14he's like

27:14it's a pity

27:15they'll all be

27:15covered in red

27:16glasses soon

27:17yes

27:17he is basically

27:18narrating the show

27:20as we go along

27:20he really is

27:21he's very good at that

27:22picking up books

27:22off the shelf

27:23going diseases

27:23of the chest

27:24and the thing is

27:27they went back

27:28from the mission

27:28everyone's looking

27:29for traitors

27:30and he's like

27:30I want to see

27:31how many people

27:31died in Hamlet

27:32yes

27:32well we've run

27:36out of time here

27:37but don't worry

27:38the chat will continue

27:39on BBC Sounds

27:40in our extra bonus episode

27:41we're going to learn

27:42more about post-castle

27:44life with Mina

27:44Harry and Wilf

27:45and the three of them

27:46will also be

27:47temporarily taking

27:48over traitor duties

27:49and we'll decide

27:49who to befriend

27:50who to kill

27:51and who to recruit

27:52it's all in the

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28:15we'll be back again

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28:17after episode 2

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28:22in the celebrity

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