Trying to figure out whether Mike McDaniel or Chris Grier are better at their job and if that gives either an advantage in not losing their job this year.
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00:20beginning at 9 a.m.
00:22Brendan Tobin, Alejandro Solana, Omar Kelly,
00:27and the aforementioned Chris Perkins.
00:30We'll all be on talking Dolphins and Chargers,
00:35leading up to a 1 p.m. kickoff.
00:38So David Fioronis and the Sun Sentinel does a Dolphins Q&A.
00:42Here's the question, and this obviously is what I think is on most Dolphins fans' mind.
00:48Any sense of or whispers of Stephen Ross doing anything?
00:53I don't know how much I can blame Mike McDaniel for the disaster of a roster
00:58that Chris Greer has built in seven or eight years,
01:00and having to game plan an offense for a quarterback who can't get hit?
01:06I mean, and this is what David Fioronis writes.
01:10And by the way, it's an interesting way of phrasing that question, right?
01:13That guy is phrasing the question kind of the opposite of what you were suggesting, Solana,
01:19which is everyone wants to get rid of McDaniel, this guy emailing the Sun Sentinel
01:23is really phrasing it the other way, which is, hey, Chris Greer, terrible, and Tua, too fragile.
01:31No coach could coach up an offense with that kind of fragility at the quarterback position.
01:39So here's what David Fioronis writes.
01:42The word remains that Dolphins owner Stephen Ross plans to be patient with Mike McDaniel
01:47as nothing new has come out since then.
01:50Now, that was leaked in national reports heading into the September 18th loss at Buffalo.
01:56The Dolphins were 0-2 going into that Thursday night loss.
01:59They were competitive against the Bills, defeated the Jets in week four,
02:03then lost to Carolina, blowing the 17-point lead in an epic, embarrassing collapse.
02:08As I wrote Monday, coming off the crushing defeat, again, this is David Fioronis writing,
02:14patience could start to wear thin very soon if there's another loss to a bad team.
02:21And Fioronis says, I'm eyeballing week seven at Cleveland.
02:25Or if there's another blowout loss, like was witnessed in the home opener against Indianapolis,
02:32the opener against Indianapolis, as soon as this Sunday against the Chargers, even.
02:36I understand some only blame Greer and not McDaniel, or vice versa.
02:43But I see the two as tied at the hip and mutually responsible.
02:49Greer took over as the lead football decision maker for the franchise at the start of the rebuild in 2019.
02:56The roster appeared to be on a positive trajectory with a budding young core
03:00and winning seasons under Brian Flores in 2020 and 2021.
03:05Flores was fired, and he included the Dolphins in a large-scale lawsuit against the league
03:10claiming racism in hiring and retention practices while alleging tanking and tampering practices by the organization.
03:17So McDaniel was then the man appointed to lead the next phase of the rebuild
03:22when Greer went all in with acquisitions of the likes of wide receiver Tyreek Hill,
03:28cornerback Jalen Ramsey, left tackle Teron Armstead, an edge rusher Bradley Chubb, and more.
03:35The 2022-23 seasons resulted in playoff appearances, but they were disappointing in the grand scheme
03:41considering the talent on the roster.
03:43The roster structure, with Greer largely guided by McDaniel, has proven flawed since.
03:52The tandem has not successfully built a strong offensive line that can stay healthy,
03:59has a young defensive line getting exposed early this season,
04:03and deploys a secondary of all new faces, including a cornerback's unit comprised of players
04:09who were not even rostered to start training camp.
04:13If you ease up on McDaniel criticism because of the quarterback's limitations,
04:16you must also acknowledge McDaniel went to bat for him when it was time to negotiate a contract extension.
04:23They should all go down together if and when the franchise goes in a new direction,
04:28which should be with a fresh, clean slate of new minds.
04:35I can't argue with anything David said. I'm with it.
04:39You want a chicken and egg, McDaniel and Greer and all of that stuff.
04:43If he wanted a track meet, Greer gave him a track meet.
04:47The track meet didn't work. You gave money to a lot of fast people, you forgot about the fat people.
04:52You go fast, you can't get fat.
04:54This is what McDaniel wanted to cook, and Greer went out and got the ingredients for him,
05:01but he didn't get the best ingredients.
05:03And you have to, like you say, what would that Flores wouldn't do?
05:09They kept using the same word. He wouldn't do it in the franchise.
05:11This is collaborative, but in collaborations, Greer has to push back some.
05:17Hey, I know you like fast people, but don't you think we need some third and short humans on this team as well?
05:24They need to collaborate like that.
05:25David said they're tied at the hip. I do agree on that.
05:29The question that I hear everybody ask is who's, you know, who's to blame if you rank them?
05:33Who is better at their job, Greer or McDaniel?
05:38I would say Greer's better at his job because as a head coach, you're supposed to have control of the locker room and the play caller.
05:45He put himself in that. You're supposed to call a good offense, have control of the locker room, make good decisions, you know, have your team disciplined.
05:53We're still getting pre-snap penalties. People were coming as of last year.
05:57Nobody cared if they got fined coming late. No respect in the building.
06:01Like, and his play calling is that we're not doing any of the fun stuff we used to do.
06:05We're not scoring 20, you know, 30 points a game anymore.
06:09We're in the teens now.
06:10And he brings up another point. When Tua went down, McDaniel was a deer in headlights last year.
06:18So there's a lot. I think McDaniel, out of the big three, we call them, or the little three, because they're not very good at their job right now.
06:25Greer, McDaniel, and Tua, I think Greer is worse at his job.
06:30I think, I mean, I think McDaniel's the worst, Greer's the second worst, and Tua's the best of the worst of those three.
06:36But Tua being the best of the worst, doesn't McDaniel get credit for that?
06:40He was brought here with a goal, and that goal, not the only goal, but that goal was to turn Tua into a formidable quarterback in this league.
06:49He accomplished that. I would argue nobody has failed more in their time as, you know, a professional in whatever space they're doing right now than Chris Greer.
07:01Think about it. He had Brian Flores. Couldn't collaborate with him either.
07:06They couldn't win the playoffs. They couldn't make the playoffs. So he failed there.
07:11And then now with Mike McDaniel, he's failed again. And you look at his draft history, he's failed more than he succeeded.
07:19Mike McDaniel in four years, two playoff appearances, and in the one season he hasn't made the playoffs, his quarterback was unavailable for six of 17 games.
07:28I would argue Chris Greer's failed more than Mike McDaniel.
07:31I don't know where I stand on either of it because I think it is such a gray area as to who has failed more.
07:41So Lana makes a good point, though. Mike McDaniel got the absolute best out of Tua we had ever seen.
07:48There was a blink of an eye where we were like, that's an elite quarterback in the NFL.
07:53That had something to do with Mike McDaniel. I think bottom line, though, by David Fironis, his answer, I'm I'm very much with him.
08:01You cannot change out one or the other. It has to be both.
08:07And I don't know what if it was done in phases. What if Stephen Ross, what if they do have an embarrassing loss this season?
08:15Maybe it's this Sunday. What if Stephen Ross cuts one, keeps one for the remainder of the season with the intention of getting rid of him at the end of the season?
08:25Or do you need to do it both at the same time?
08:31Tear off the bandaid. Just get rid of it all.
08:34Tear off the bandaid because either way, Chris Greer is gone.
08:38Now Mike McDaniel knows what's he like. What's he going to do for the for the last six weeks of the season?
08:43You get rid of Mike McDaniel. Now, is Chris Greer draft prepping?
08:47You know, what's he sitting around the building doing knowing that he's on the way out, like just rip off the bandaid until that point.
08:55I think y'all talk me into it. Honestly, I think tool has to go to get to rip that bandaid off like the Broncos did with Russ.
09:02If we're going to read and no, let's not say reset, rebuild.
09:06We're going to tear it down to the ground. We're pouring foundation for the cement again.
09:10If you get rid of the head coach, the GM and the quarterback, a hurricane came through your house blew away.
09:15If we're pouring cement again, whoever's pouring that cement, let's not have any roots in the way.
09:21Let's reset it all the way.
09:22I can't for the life of me understand why Chris Greer is still working as the general manager.
09:29If the ultimate and inevitable decision will be to let him go, because as we currently stand,
09:35if you could be finding the next wave of general manager, the next person to run this organization,
09:41they could come in and with eight, nine, 10 weeks, at the very least, observe the players
09:47that are currently rostered, realize who they want to keep, who they don't want to keep,
09:52who they believe to be talented enough to be part of the next era of Miami Dolphins football.
09:59And the longer you keep Chris Greer at the helm to me, the more I think Chris Greer is going
10:06to skate by on this one, fellas. Chris Greer is going to skate by. He's already set the table
10:11for McDaniel to be the fall guy. And I'm very concerned with that, because if Chris Greer is still
10:17here at the end of the season, you wasted a lot of time for somebody else, at the very least,
10:24to start the search for somebody else that could be analyzing the players currently on the team.
10:29And I'm going to just let y'all know now, I'm just, and I'm not, do with what you want.
10:35If you clear house mid-season and players know they're playing, like they're on a three-month
10:42tryout, these games are going to start getting ugly. Guys are going to get selfish. They're not
10:48going to be locked in like, oh, we have to gung-ho go to the playoffs. They're going to be trying to
10:52get their stats up because they know that they can get their ass shipped out of here.
10:55They're playing for themselves instead of for the team.
10:58This new GM, when he walked, let's say his name is Willie Jackson. When Willie walks down
11:03in the locker room, he's not walking around finding his guys. He's walking around finding
11:07guys to get rid of. He's walking around finding guys that he can replace because I'm taking
11:12over this team mid-season because y'all couldn't win no damn games. I'm not keeping all y'all
11:17bastards around.
11:18Well, all of them playing for the team got them a loss in Carolina after a 17-point lead,
11:24so who cares? It's going to get ugly if this happens.
11:27Bro, you've won one game. You've avoided the absolute pits or the depths of the NFL
11:33world, which is not winning a game. You've already avoided it. Who cares the rest of the
11:38way? I know this is doom and gloom stuff, and I know we try to stay away from that.
11:43I realize that. But guys, we're literally at the point where Crowder's saying, get rid
11:47of all three. Your quarterback, your head coach, your general manager. Everybody seems to
11:52be in agreement. The three most important pillars of your organization need to be replaced.
11:58Shouldn't we now be saying, hey, 1-16 is probably the best case scenario for this team?
12:06Yeah, but how are you going to accomplish that?
12:08That's, I mean...
12:09No, no, no. I'm not saying you accomplish. I'm just saying, like, that's kind of the best
12:14case scenario now.
12:15Yeah, I mean, that's always, obviously, that yin and yang thing of being a fan of a team,
12:21knowing that doing worse is going to be beneficial in the long run, but then you're going... It's...
12:28Like, that, to me, is that impossible equation that fans are always asked to come up with.
12:33You know, the Marlins ask it of their fans almost every season, and it's untenable. It is,
12:40but they are constantly asking you, hey, go through the pain right now because we're going
12:46to be better later on. I would submit to you this. If you did want to keep Chris Greer,
12:54they're really just a backup quarterback away, in my opinion.
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