00:00Tony says, we said that it's two a time,
00:02but it's actually tank for cam time.
00:05I don't like this.
00:05I mean, I'm very, I'm very, you know.
00:09Can I, can I ask one more question?
00:12Everybody can ask one more question.
00:18If everything stays the same and you get rid of two
00:21and bring in another quarterback,
00:22does that make things better?
00:25Does he play every game?
00:28Yes, but I can't promise you that.
00:31I'm just, you know, but he's not going to be injury prone.
00:36Yes.
00:37He's not going to come into the league.
00:39See, so, um.
00:44I mean, you can't, I guess you can't promise me health,
00:47but I'm just saying like.
00:48So in effect, we're saying that all these problems
00:54are basically on tour.
00:57They're not indirect in an indirect way.
01:02Well, here's the thing that's, that sucks about it.
01:04Okay.
01:04Everybody who was apprehensive about giving the extension,
01:07there were plenty of people.
01:08I don't want to act like nobody was against giving
01:10the extension.
01:12The biggest concern was head health.
01:14And the thing that you were frustrated with
01:17and that we became frustrated with is that he is sitting
01:21here telling you that for five weeks, he was fine,
01:24but the dolphins couldn't afford to have him out there
01:27and have a Cincinnati situation happen again,
01:29which he's at.
01:30He goes, I feel like this is all drawn back to Cincinnati.
01:32And what's going to happen the next time?
01:36If there is a next time, is he allowed to play
01:39when he feels fine?
01:40Or do we always have to go down for a month?
01:43Like what's, and I just don't know how,
01:45how do you live life like that as a franchise?
01:49Here's how you have to do it.
01:53If you're healthy, you play.
01:56If you're not, you don't.
01:58But they've already.
01:59And people as simple as that.
02:00But they've already.
02:01But they've already bucked against that, Leroy.
02:04They did the look good thing.
02:06And what's this, but they're gonna, but here's the thing.
02:09And I get what you're saying,
02:10cause I'm not disagreeing with you,
02:12but we've already seen what they do
02:15because they had so much criticism
02:17the first time that it happened.
02:19It's always gonna go to look good.
02:22And how do you operate normally like that?
02:24Cause it's always gonna deter,
02:25to us sitting here telling you angrily
02:28at reporters last week, he's fine.
02:30I felt fine.
02:32I've been fine.
02:33I knew he was okay when they allowed him to travel.
02:36Right.
02:37Because if you have a concussion
02:38and you have symptoms of a concussion,
02:40the last thing they want you to do is travel across
02:43in a plane cause of the pressure.
02:45Sure.
02:46So I don't, again, I get the dilemma.
02:57I get it.
02:58I understand it.
03:00But the fact of the matter is,
03:03if you're healthy and you want to play,
03:06you should be able to play
03:08until which case you are not cleared to play.
03:11And everybody needs to have that attitude
03:14because what ends up happening is situations like this.
03:22And now like, look,
03:23I can understand if you say he's clear for play,
03:26we're gonna give him one more week.
03:28Right.
03:29I understand it.
03:29That happened to me.
03:31But to go four weeks when you didn't have to
03:37for whatever reason,
03:39like you're putting yourself in a bad spot
03:43because like you said,
03:45the next time, what, the season?
03:47Right.
03:48You've already like, so-
03:50The precedent is set.
03:51From the beginning, I have said,
03:54let the professionals and the doctors
03:58tell you when Tua is healthy.
04:01Don't you try to make decisions
04:03based on what looks or feels good.
04:08Let's hear from Mike McDaniel.
04:10He was asked about meeting with Steven Ross after the loss.
04:16And this is what he said,
04:17Steven Ross's message was to him.
04:19Here was Mike McDaniel.
04:21Hey, he's like every fan and coach.
04:24My knee jerk is to,
04:27is to, you know, apologize for the result
04:32regardless of, you know,
04:33how the game and my position within it go.
04:40And he's very,
04:43he knows how the people that he's hired
04:46that he really believes in.
04:49And so he's very supportive.
04:52And that was very similar to what last night was.
04:56I think he's also supremely competitive.
05:00So, you know, he doesn't like to lose,
05:03but, you know, he's kind of,
05:06we're definitely aligned in that
05:10it's the process and evaluating that.
05:16You smell that?
05:18Smell it?
05:20Something's burning.
05:23Smells like hot seat.
05:25You think?
05:26You smell that Marcos?
05:27Why so?
05:29Smells like jokey jokes and smack.
05:31Can I, can I,
05:33why wouldn't Mike McDaniel be on the hot seat?
05:35Just smells like it, dude.
05:37No, but why?
05:39Two and five.
05:40Oh, so.
05:43Hasn't won a big game?
05:44Here's what I've heard.
05:47He's been a coach for two and a half years.
05:49Long-winded.
05:50He's been a head coach for two and a half years, relax.
05:53But here's what I would say about that.
05:59Is that
06:01if you can't look at all the circumstances
06:06in which you are two and seven,
06:08and you only put it on the coach,
06:11then you're going to be switching coaches a lot
06:13because there are going to be circumstances
06:18that a coach has no control over.
06:21You understand what I'm saying?
06:23Yeah, I mean, this owner has switched coaches a lot.
06:28All right.
06:31Tell him, Zeus.
06:32Okay, like I'm done giving like,
06:34I'm trying to be like realistic about it,
06:37but clearly I'm dealing with people that don't.
06:40I've seen this cycle.
06:43I'm telling you, it doesn't turn around quickly.
06:48It just doesn't.
06:52Let's just say Stephen Ross
06:53got his feet up on the couch, you know?
06:55Perusing these surfing channels,
06:58and he puts on Rat McAfee.
07:01Rat McAfee has on Bill Belichick.
07:04And he goes, I can get him if I want.
07:07Like, he's just thinking to himself.
07:08You don't think that crosses his mind?
07:13I mean, I don't.
07:15If you change-
07:16I don't want it.
07:17I don't want it.
07:18If you change quarterbacks, do you have to change coach?
07:21I don't know.
07:22I guess that's up to Belichick.
07:23You gotta get the thoughts of him.
07:27But I'm just asking Bill, you know,
07:28like we've seen him go after the big star before,
07:31the big star coach.
07:33He's done this multiple times.
07:34He tried to fly across for Harbaugh.
07:37He got caught tampering for Sean Payton.
07:39He's in this situation now.
07:41Like, you don't think there's a chance
07:43that he's like channel surfing
07:45and he's thinking to himself,
07:46man, haven't gotten to waddle since last October.
07:50And then he's thinking to himself, Belichick.
07:55I don't want Bill Belichick.
07:56I just want to be clear to the fans out there.
07:57I'm just asking, do you think he thinks that?
08:00No.
08:02Like, there has to be, throughout this whole operation,
08:08there has to be a voice of reason.
08:10So that means that somebody has to sit down
08:13and talk to Steven Ross and the coaching.
08:16Why are we here?
08:19And you have to evaluate those answers,
08:23whatever they think those reasons are, okay?
08:27First of all, in the last, you can go back a year.
08:31I've never seen a team with more injuries
08:34with players they paid a lot of money to.
08:36Yep.
08:37So that limits who you can bring in.
08:43Then a guy comes back
08:45who you're not paying a boatload of money,
08:47but he is a pivotal part of the defense
08:50and gets hurt again.
08:53So now you're searching again.
08:56So, like, what,
08:59I try to think of it this way,
09:02and this is how I look at it.
09:03The same question I asked you about too.
09:06With all the injuries that have gone on, on this team,
09:10if I changed the coach, would it have mattered?
09:13This year, I would say no.
09:15I don't think it's as much of a coach.
09:16So, saying I want to fire a coach,
09:20when as of right now,
09:22as of right now, based on who has been playing
09:25the first seven games,
09:27and who's been out, and who's been injured,
09:31saying I'm going to change the coach,
09:34you're not making yourself any better
09:36because you don't know.
09:37Rich people like to do things
09:38that just make them feel better though, just on a whim.
09:41Okay, but I'm trying to stay in reality here,
09:47because owners do things because they got a lot of money
09:50and they think differently.
09:52But fans just think change is better.
09:55And I'm saying, if there's another coach
09:57that you could have had in the first seven games,
10:01like what coach would you have had?
10:03Well, I guess it looks like, but Leroy,
10:05the way we could look at it though is,
10:07this is a team that had questions last year,
10:09but had a good record, okay?
10:12And it ended up falling apart.
10:13Yes, in part because of injuries,
10:14but they didn't really do anything to address that
10:16in the off season.
10:17They just kind of said, run it back, baby.
10:19Agreed.
10:20It's only gotten worse.
10:22The roster has gotten worse.
10:23The injuries have gotten worse.
10:25So at what point do you think Lady Luck's
10:27gonna be on my side and all injuries and health
10:30are gonna be in the right spot?
10:32Or is it just, this is what this roster is.
10:35It's brittle.
10:36It's not built for it.
10:37And it doesn't work.
10:38Cause it hasn't felt like it's worked
10:40since the middle of last year.
10:42Not just this year.
10:43That's when injuries started, yes.
10:45So I don't, so when do you have that assessment?
10:50When do you really take stock of that?
10:52I don't know.
10:53At some point you do, but you also have to,
10:59like, you also have to identify
11:03what part of this would be different with other people
11:07and what part of this wouldn't be when you make changes.
11:12Yeah, I just feel like once we do that,
11:15like the philosophy of the roster building
11:16does have to get a little different, doesn't it?
11:20Um, yeah, but then if you do that,
11:23you know you're gonna take a big hit
11:25and it's gonna be a couple of years
11:26because you're not gonna be able to necessarily
11:30just dump money and bring new money in.
11:34You're gonna have all these hits.
11:36So now you're talking about another
11:38maybe two or three year process.
11:40Right.
11:41And let's keep in mind,
11:42you've had a winning record the last three years.
11:44Yeah, well.
11:45I mean, I'm just, that's reality.
11:48So if I say all the things that you're saying are accurate
11:53and we make the changes and make these changes
11:56and try to turn over the roster,
11:58are you willing to wait another three years?
12:00Well, here's what I don't wanna do.
12:02I'm gonna tell you right now.
12:03I'm not moving the goalposts on this season.
12:06So let's just say the Dolphins do have a turnaround.
12:08Yeah.
12:09Let's say they get it to nine and eight.
12:12Let's say they get it to 10 and seven.
12:13Let's say they just run it off
12:15and they still get blasted in the first round.
12:17I'm not going back retroactive and saying,
12:19oh, you guys fixed your record from the start of the season.
12:22What a great run.
12:23Like you're not the 2016 heat where I'm gonna take a,
12:26oh, you ended up 41 and 41.
12:28No, you're still,
12:29you still had the expectations
12:31of finally winning a playoff game this year.
12:33The record's the record.
12:35So then why, if the record is the record,
12:38why are we making or wanna make all these changes
12:42before the season's over with?
12:44I'm just telling you.
12:44I just said, if the season,
12:46if they run out the season and don't win a playoff game,
12:49you're gonna treat the record like the record.
12:50Well, that works both ways.
12:52It's two and seven.
12:54Why don't you say,
12:55let's just see what the record is at the end of the year.
12:56I'm just saying, even if it's most optimistic,
13:00you still need, like at the point of this,
13:01we do need to know
13:02are the Dolphins ever gonna contend with this core.
13:05Yes.
13:06Because.
13:07Absolutely.
13:08Absolutely.
13:10And we don't know.
13:11And I feel like, you know,
13:12if they walk in and they get stone-cold stunted on Sunday
13:15by the Bills yet again.
13:17Here you go.
13:17Here, I love this.
13:18This is the difference between a fan and reality.
13:21What the hell is Leroy talking about?
13:23Sometimes you gotta just cut bait.
13:25McDaniel cannot coach, period.
13:27It's the same mistakes over and over.
13:30We have to wait anyway,
13:31because this team is not built right.
13:34But if you just cut bait,
13:38you have to realize the financial hit
13:41that you're gonna take,
13:42that could destroy you for the next three or four years,
13:45or two or three years.
13:47That also has to come into effect.
13:49So even though you may be turning the team over,
13:52you may hold on to players
13:53because you don't want to take that hit.
13:55So that has to be considered.
13:58You can't just, see, fans think,
14:01if a player's not playing well and you just gave him money,
14:03just cut him, just trade him.
14:05No, even if you trade a player,
14:07you take a big financial hit.
14:10So now you could have 70,
14:13you could be the Denver Broncos,
14:18and just eat $70 million,
14:21but you've paid three or four guys 30 plus million.
14:25So how much money would you eat?
14:27Half of your salary cap?
14:30You can't just do that.
14:32He did just sell like 10% of the dollars.
14:34It has nothing to do with the team.
14:36It's a salary cap sport.
14:38I don't believe that.
14:40See, like-
14:41Salary caps, Fugazi.
14:42You can, you have the conversation with them.
14:45I'm so bleeping done because I'm speaking reality.
14:49You're speaking nonsense
14:50and these clowns aren't smart enough to realize it.
14:53So the hell with all of you.
14:55Take a break.
14:56No, I'm serious.
14:57I'm done.
14:58I'm not saying another bleeping dolphins thing
15:00because you guys are morons, all of you.
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