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00:00a small portion of the population that says pump the brakes how can you determine that drake may
00:07is is looking like the best quarterback in the league so uh but i appreciate the sentiment from
00:12greg olson he's already climbed i mean he's climbing the ranks the power rankings usa today
00:17in the last three hours dropped their going into week six nfl quarterback power rankings he was six
00:23last week he's five this week um so he's getting he's he's getting the attention of everybody that
00:28he's he should be you know i mean the people above him to wiggies point the best um one of the best
00:35teams the lions which you've been on since the beginning um so it's jared goff then it's josh
00:41allen patrick mahomes matthew stafford then drake may i mean i i think like you know as far as
00:48young quarterbacks in the league right now i think drake may is obviously up there and and he looks
00:55good he's continuing to do a good job he looks like he's headed in the right direction i mean
01:00greg olson is right he made some insane throws and he you know i give steph diggs as much credit on the
01:07on on the throw that he is referring to as i do drake may because broken play and steph diggs is uh
01:14veteran enough to to keep running and get himself open but um i mean just but why do we ever want to
01:22pump breaks what's the point of it i don't know they played really well in the second half drake
01:27may was spectacular they won a game that was their signature win in biggest regular season win since
01:35brady left i think it's people who didn't like to pick and want to be right about it sometimes when it
01:40comes to that but it's just in this context like what did they do sunday night that they will have a
01:45hard time replicating nothing at all nothing at all it was it was very kind of vanilla like that's
01:52the thing you can expect even more from this team drake may the last four games in the second half of
01:58those games on third and fourth down is a perfect 14 of 14 for 188 yards and two touchdowns
02:07this guy when it matters most on third and fourth downs in the second half of games he has been
02:13perfect and that's why i said and even on the other side what did what didn't buffalo do that they can
02:23like do extremely different the second time you play them because i thought josh allen had a a good
02:28game i i thought that you know wasn't a game where they had a whole bunch of turnovers we go he's
02:34probably not gonna turn the ball over like you know the humble that that football the way did
02:40right but they had what they had three turnovers i mean there's a chance josh allen throws you an
02:45interception when you play them again yeah right so they they had three turnovers and technically you
02:49had two you just happened to fall on one of them yeah and so i look at it wasn't one of those games
02:54where like you the pittsburgh game we go all right new england's not going to turn the ball over five
02:58times when you look at the buffalo bills there there are a few things that they can change but
03:03it wasn't like something that and this is why i always say they didn't go out there and lose that game
03:09new england went out there and beat them and their game plan against josh allen was the best they've
03:14had on him it was so good like every time the patriots played him in the last four or five years
03:20he was breaking contain he'd be running along the line of scrimmage looking for a guy if nobody was
03:26open he'd run for 12 yards on a back breaking third and eight like that the way that they contained
03:32him in that pocket and bothered him and got him angry when do you see josh allen showing any negative
03:37emotion on the field and then even when he gets out of the pocket and gets to the sideline he can't
03:41cut it up field because they they have the spy on him and they're containing him and they're forcing
03:46him to make a pass and be perfect and you get you know plays like christian gonzalez breaking up the
03:51pass on khalil shakir and that's just being plastered on that wide receiver you know when when josh allen
03:57does break the pocket and he extend those plays and those are off script plays and you as a defensive
04:02back and ty will tell you this and even rabel said you got to make sure you're staying plastered
04:07to those wide receivers don't get the peeking in the backfield and possibly losing those guys but
04:12here it is here's the perspective in a text from rhode island on the subaru of new england text line
04:20one good game in two seasons slow the roll folks what do you mean one good yeah he's had good games
04:28the team around him has had some real stinkers and and the ones that he's had good games but
04:34that wasn't drake's first good game did he not watch the panthers game or the miami game just this
04:38season like the two of the last three games prior to this one it was great in both of those great he
04:44hadn't come back in the fourth quarter to lead a team on a game-winning drive in his career
04:50and we were having fun with mac jones fourth quarter guru and drake may hadn't done it he did it was
04:58awesome like that was one of those wins where it makes you believe that there's the chance that
05:04this team is really heading in the direction you thought it would wiggy text for you i am your number
05:08one fan oh good morning talita but come on 11 penalties for 90 yards and four turner four turnovers
05:17is not something the bills do generally it was three turnovers and the patriots had eight penalties
05:22right 93 yards right you you had more penalty yardage than they did so what i'm saying is when
05:28if you watch that bills game it wasn't a game where you go all right the bills lost it they had control
05:35of it they lost it they had too many turnovers turnovers led to to touchdowns it wasn't one of
05:42those games where you looked at and you go all right new england they caught a break they got lucky
05:47and they took advantage of that opportunity they just knowing them outplayed them but do you feel
05:52that way about pittsburgh's win over over new england i feel like pittsburgh's win over new england was
05:59you did a tremendous job against aaron rogers you choked that away that's a loss that you gave away
06:06okay to pittsburgh you out gained them in yards pittsburgh didn't beat you you gave that game away
06:12this is walter from boston hey walter hey guys um i brable's always been pretty good against josh
06:21josh allen teams but i was gonna say my favorite thing about drake may besides his talent is he's
06:27not gonna get douchey like just the way he is and a movie wiggy i can't believe you forgot this one
06:32that's a boston movies the equalizer equalizer one but have a good day yep equalizer one and two
06:38you love denzel yeah he's such a great actor i gotta watch his move as high as to the lowest
06:43if you were rich first thing that you would do you told me was hire denzel to just perform for you at
06:49home sit yeah so denzel specific roles or like would you want him to show up in the in the uh pilot
06:55outfit uh from that no no i'm like just like certain scenes like gladiator i mean hey shine would hire
07:02someone to kick him in the nuts in the dungeon while watching drake may film
07:05i would just hire drake may just grab me a beer denzel but i want you to do it as alonzo from
07:12training day but no um yeah the equalizer forgot about that another great movie yeah but then i mean
07:20then you get the art it's weird like that guy is saying well you know mike rabel is uh exceptional
07:27holy coaches exceptionally well against josh allen so that's uh well the next four games luke it's a
07:32flash in the pan the next four games i think are going to be critical these are four games that you
07:37should win yep and if you're able to do that then i think that's when people will start to say okay
07:43the patriots are for real right it is you beat a very good team in buffalo and then people are going
07:50to be like pump the brakes but if you go out there in the next four games and you don't have to blow out
07:54your next four opponents but those are all four games that you should win if you go out there and
07:58win those four football games heading into the tampa bay game people are now going to be like okay new
08:04england is for real could this be well i think a super bowl um pre-match-up i mean but don't you
08:11think like you just heard greg olson don't you think that there people believe they're for real now
08:16no no i think people are impressed about i'm not talking about people here who are you know
08:24naturally question everything and don't want to give mike rabel any credit don't want to give
08:29drake may credit don't you think around the league oh nationally yeah i think so i don't grab the
08:34sportsbooks have them at minus 200 minus 200 to make the playoffs yeah but i i think when they look
08:40at that bills game i think that you still have people that say it was a sloppy game by buffalo
08:44and that's why the patriots won i was talking to some bills fans yesterday about it and they
08:49you know said all through the game they didn't feel good about it because buffalo is making mistakes
08:53they don't usually make yeah i don't think anybody believes the patriots are better than the bills
08:57but what that game showed you was that you have the up you have the ability to actually close and
09:04come back in the fourth quarter and you can compete what what rabel needs when you're a new coach
09:09instilling a culture is you need to have some evidence that's successful to get the buy-in from
09:14everybody and that's what that was that week greg the whole week we talked about it yesterday
09:18he said this is our opportunity we're going to be in prime time embrace it every player in that
09:25locker room that talked about it talked about the excitement to play in that game on that stage
09:29and then in the biggest moments they outperformed the bills if they if they win the next four games
09:35don't will you will you think that people will be like okay the next time they play the bills
09:40at home that game's going to be for the the the team that's going to win the division yes
09:46and that's the way i feel like so that's why these next four games are that critical because if you
09:51win these next four games then people will say all right even if you lose to tampa the division is
09:57going to come down to when you play buffalo at home because you should beat the rest of the teams
10:02that you're supposed to beat and if you're able to beat buffalo at home if buffalo has to come here
10:08in the playoffs don't you think new england can beat them i also think that it's going to be
10:13important watching the next four if steph diggs keeps it going keeps it rolling or if that was
10:18kind of like just a game a comeback revenge game for steph diggs and then you go into a game against
10:23the saints and you get a steph diggs that's okay but not you know it looks like he's getting better
10:27yeah he had 100 against carolina i agree i agree in the right direction who do you guys want after
10:31the patriots get the bye who do you guys want to play in that second round of the playoffs
10:35i don't know but is it but do you not see it i'd love to stop on yeah yeah but is it not possible
10:41though if they go 12 uh if they win their next 12 then they should write yeah but if i asked the
10:4722 in a row no no but if i asked the room a simple yes or no question i don't think the patriots are
10:52going to sweep the bills this year you would agree with me you would agree with me that they win
10:57their next four games yes you would agree with me that they probably maybe lose to tampa bay
11:02yeah but if they win their next four games i think a lot of people look at that game as it's
11:07anyone's and i think that if they continue on this streak then yeah the next but the next bills game
11:11at home people are going to look at that and then if they do split that game you might end up with a
11:16better record than buffalo because you look at who buffalo has to play versus who you have to play
11:22i would say a very fair expectation would be three and one in the next four agreed i even great teams
11:29don't win every game they're supposed to win this is i mean i agree with that i that i like if they
11:35lost to the falcons four weeks from now i wouldn't be stunned if they lost to the saints i wouldn't be
11:41stunned it's the nfl i don't think they will but like right but that but that's the point that that's
11:46where i'm at based off of what they are doing it's it's cliche to say anybody could lose on any given
11:52sunday you can go down the bill schedule and go okay the bills could lose this game right i think
11:56they'll win three or four and that will be successful in the four game stretch they have
12:00coming up right so for you if you look at their schedule and you look at the way they played
12:04against but and not just buffalo but how they kind of been trending in the right direction as far as
12:10the way drake may has been playing for you to think that this team can't be a legitimate
12:16contender for the afc and i'm not just talking about the division i'm talking about the conference
12:22who who in the conference then if you don't believe me you think i'm just smoking major weed
12:28who in the conference you got well you brought up the colts we we know you're smoking me what are
12:34the colts well you have to respect the before and one yeah no no no no but i'm saying going into the
12:39season like but we're not talking about going into the season we're talking about right now going into
12:43the season we didn't all think the patriots that's my point we're talking about right here and right
12:47now but what you're asking is who are you looking at in the afc that gives you pause and i'm just
12:52bringing up the colts and the bills so if you play the chiefs like i don't think oh yeah count the
12:57chiefs i'm not counting the chiefs out but if you play the colts in the playoffs you don't think that
13:01you could win that game we could but we could also lose it but like to your point you wouldn't be
13:05favored in that game right like if you're playing if it's at home if it's at home you'd be favored
13:10as currently standard right now no the the colts would be favored no they wouldn't if it's
13:15coming to gillette this week the colts would be favored sean that the colts are playing with
13:21daniel jones danny dimes i'm very well aware the same danny dimes that we saw for the new york
13:26giants last year do you think robert craft should get the calls on the sideline and maybe like have
13:32a headset on do you think that would help the patriots no no and and i would say maybe they are
13:37playing for that that new owner though curtis she runs up and down the field maybe they're playing
13:42for jim mercy wiggy just for reference memory like the colts are six and a half point favorites
13:47over the cardinals you're a three-point favorite over the saints right because you lost two games
13:55that's what i'm saying if they were to play right now the colts right now but let's say when we get
14:00to where we're gonna get to we gotta win those games first right but the colts have to do that too
14:04you're counting on you're counting on based on what we have you're counting on daniel jones
14:09like that if you said the kansas city chiefs and you're counting on 12 rookies i feel like the
14:14colts should really play inspired ball for the delivery driver that got attacked by mark sanchez
14:18like i just don't get like people like and this is like the maddening thing to me i don't get people
14:24how they're all of a sudden like oh the pats are playing well and then when you say well they they
14:29got a legitimate chance just as everybody else and you go well who else in the afc do you have to worry
14:35about it and then the first thing they do is say the colts well and it's like that was me so you
14:39can just it's like really what about jacksonville is jacksonville for real and they're another team
14:45that's like jacksonville the colts like lead the team they lead the league and takeaways right
14:50but that's my point we are now looking at the afc and saying that beat the chiefs no but we are now
14:57looking at the afc and going it's jacksonville and and the colts like that's who you're competing
15:03against gonna go on forever yeah it's not like we aren't the same patriots that we once were so
15:09it's like yeah of course those are the teams that we're competing you're a better team just like
15:12the colts and the jacksonville team than last year but just like the colts and jacksonville
15:16jags what jaguars are a better team like those are the teams you are now competing with you're no
15:21longer competing with if the chargers came to gillette who's favored uh the patriots right now the
15:26chargers have a million injuries that's my point like you're no longer competing against
15:31the chiefs of how they used to be the baltimore ravens and when we saw with lamar when they
15:36were blowing doors on anybody the chiefs came into gillette tomorrow the chiefs would be i would
15:40agree with that okay wiggie 617 text for you i don't know about the accuracy of it but patriots
15:47have never swept a three-game road trip never and i'm not saying they will not under bledsoe or brady
15:53you were just saying they would i do think they need to win this like this week this cannot be the
15:58one that they drop like if they go out and put up a stinker against the saints on the road
16:03people are going to look at that bills win like it was a massive flub so at least get through this
16:07week and we really should only be focusing on this week because then you've got the titans and
16:11rabel's revenge game like anything can happen there but going into the week against the saints they need
16:15to put in the same energy as they did against right but we're focusing on the here and now right the
16:19same way we're focusing on the here and now with jacksonville the same way we're focusing on the here
16:23and now with the colts right because those same teams could also implode and and lose four in a
16:30row yeah so i'm just saying that when you start to look at who you're competing against you're not
16:35competing against juggernauts in the twitch chat uh comment guy from the 413 this comes from wiggy the
16:44guy who thought covid was going to be over in a week and which it should have been right how how wrong
16:49were we about that you did have you did have it fizzling out it should have been look at sweden
16:54i mean let's get my check boney back covid was the dumbest thing ever it was and it should have
17:01been over in a week all it was was the flu i mean people are now getting covid and it's like oh i'm
17:07out i'm out with covid oh be back for lunch yeah exactly it's like really i mean come on people i need
17:16to go buy a test i gotta i gotta go i gotta go to cvs and i still have a lot you do right
17:20it's not surprising you have a lot of dumbest thing ever yeah yeah yeah this is uh this is jesse hello
17:27jesse hey what's up guys how are you what's up hey i want to uh i want to back up wiggy a little
17:35bit here because i think he's absolutely right um where we're not really in an afc anymore where there
17:41is any more juggernauts when i know buddy sorry that's my son um his water bottle is empty with
17:48water so he's not happy um but i want to back we kind of echo what wiggy said is is there isn't
17:54really a juggernaut in the afc anymore so you know it's not like years ago when people were like oh god
17:59we gotta play the patriots we know we're gonna lose that doesn't really exist you know the chiefs
18:03aren't great i understand the conversation about the colts but i mean they haven't really had a great
18:08schedule to be honest with you um you know they lost to the rams but the bills are that team
18:13no no the bills are not that team i don't know they're not that team great the bills are they
18:18though no they're not they were yeah i don't think they are anymore they're not i agree with you uh
18:23i don't think they are anymore you know i i i i think they were you know and then in the league
18:29and points piggyback i get it i get it i get it but i think this goes back to what curtis just said
18:35is that in the nfl at this point in time any team on any given sunday can lose you know that
18:41wasn't the case 10 years ago i mean the patriots you knew they were going to win you know i mean
18:45even like ben roethlisberger ben roethlisberger and the steelers win you know so that doesn't really
18:52happen anymore um and i think the the door is open so i get that there's a lot of clarity but there's
18:58teams that are better than you like but we're not saying that there are teams that are not better than
19:03you are on paper yeah but those teams that are better than you are not juggernauts they're
19:07you're talking about no one's saying they are well yeah it's no one has said that the colts are some
19:13dynasty in the making like nobody said that right but they're just saying that they're better than
19:18you yeah right where they are but they they might be better than you but if you went there and you
19:21beat the colts no one would be shocked no because that's my point good football that that's the point
19:26that i'm trying to make there is not if the if two years ago this was two years ago and the patriots
19:33went into kansas city and beat kansas city we'd be shocked because kansas city was that good or even
19:38a team like baltimore two years ago or even the buffalo bills or the bangles week one yeah last year
19:44with the buffalo bills like curtis is right the bangles last year week one you're like what the hell
19:50was that people overreacted to that i didn't no no but but i could see why people overreacted
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