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00:00UFC President Dana White has just broken his silence about Jon Jones and the possibility
00:05of his return to the Octagon, and the MMA world is lighting up.
00:10Rumors are swirling about a historic UFC event that might take place on the White House lawn.
00:16But with so much at stake, who gets the main event slot?
00:19This UFC card that's going to take place on the White House lawn, how do you decide the
00:23headlatter?
00:23Jon Jones has made it clear I want to do this, and he sent me a text apologizing and all that
00:29stuff, but I need people that I can seriously rely on for this one.
00:32People talk shit about Conor.
00:33Conor is a guy that literally will fight anybody.
00:35But does he care enough to actually make a fight right now?
00:38He and I have been talking nonstop, and he's like, I'm dead serious.
00:42I want this.
00:43So we'll see.
00:43Jon Jones, he says he's training five days a week, Dana.
00:46He has made it very clear to me that this is what he wants to do, but I need people on
00:52this card that I can count on.
00:53And say what you want about Conor McGregor, because people like to talk shit about that
00:57too, but he is that guy.
00:59When the shit hits the fan, who's really willing to go out?
01:02And Conor McGregor has always been that guy.
01:05So you said Jon's not at the top of your list for that one.
01:07You know, maybe don't rule it out, but who is?
01:09Can you give us a little bit of...
01:10I just said Conor McGregor.
01:11Conor.
01:12So that's the main event you want.
01:12Conor McGregor has always been that guy.
01:15Jon Jones says he wants to be on there too, and he says he would fight whoever the champion
01:18is at that time.
01:20But would you be okay with him coming back and potentially winning that belt again?
01:23And you might have to go through...
01:25It's not even about him winning the belt.
01:26You know how I felt about him?
01:28I just...
01:28I can't risk putting him in big positions and a big spot and have something go wrong.
01:36Yeah.
01:36Especially the White House card.
01:38Dana White isn't budging.
01:40He's been firm in saying Jon Jones won't be part of the lineup.
01:43According to Dana, trust is the biggest issue.
01:47They had a fight locked in between Jones and Tom Aspinall.
01:50But Jon withdrew unexpectedly, throwing the UFC's plans into chaos.
01:56Since then, Dana has stood his ground, saying he can't rely on Jon for a moment this big.
02:01But Jones isn't backing down either.
02:03He's actively campaigning for a comeback, saying he's training regularly, back in the
02:08USADA testing pool, and ready to fight.
02:10And R-ing and all the fucking pretending that he was going to actually ever get in the cage
02:15with Tom Aspinall.
02:16Jon Jones has done what we always knew he was going to do.
02:19He's took tail and ran.
02:21Imagine calling yourself a goat and yet behaving like such a duck.
02:26I mean, this is like back in the playground.
02:28Jon Jones has got a bike.
02:31Tom Aspinall's come over and goes, give us your bike now.
02:33What you have to do then is fight.
02:35You have to defend what your shit is and say, no, you're not going to take this.
02:38And do you know what Jon Jones did?
02:39You have it.
02:40I don't want to fight.
02:40You can have it.
02:41This is unbelievable.
02:43The greatest of all time.
02:45What a load of shit.
02:47I'm sorry.
02:47Never, never going to call that him the goat ever, ever, ever, ever again.
02:51Because being the greatest of all time is not just about winning.
02:55And that's what Jon Jones doesn't understand.
02:57It's about how you conduct yourself throughout the whole of your career.
03:01Are you willing to fight the biggest challenges, the biggest tests, go in there and test yourself
03:06against everyone?
03:07And Jon Jones proved, without a shadow of a doubt, his biggest test stepped up and he
03:13bottled it well and truly.
03:14Remember this clip from like over a year ago when Jon actually met Tom in person?
03:19Respect, man.
03:19All the best.
03:20All the best.
03:21Do a quick picture.
03:22Sure.
03:22Yeah?
03:22Let's do it.
03:23A face-off.
03:24No, no, okay.
03:26He wouldn't even face off with Tom Aspinall, let alone get in a cage with him.
03:32And after all of the fannying around and waiting for Jon Jones to man up and strap his balls
03:39on and defend his heavyweight title because you've never really earned it.
03:44You beat a guy who wasn't even the champion.
03:46You beat Sticky.
03:47Oh my God.
03:48What a false that fight was.
03:50Dude, what's going on with that fight?
03:51We've said Aspinall on.
03:52Jon Jones, since, you know, retiring and then coming back, has made it clear I want to do
04:00this and, you know, he sent me a text apologizing and all that stuff, but I need, I need people
04:10that I can seriously rely on for this one.
04:13You know, people talk about Conor.
04:15I'm telling you, I've been in trenches with Conor.
04:19Conor is a guy that has fought injured.
04:22Conor is a guy that a fighter has fallen out and we slid in a stylistically bad matchup
04:29for him. He doesn't care.
04:31He literally will fight anybody.
04:33But does he care enough to actually make a fight right now?
04:36Like, does he, is he actually, when's the last time he fought?
04:38He and I have been talking nonstop and he's like, I'm dead serious.
04:43I want this.
04:44You know, I'm training.
04:45I'm back in the pool and I'm doing all this.
04:48So we'll see.
04:49This is where things get even more interesting.
04:51While Dana insists Jones won't be part of the show, fans believe there's one wild card
04:56that could change everything, Donald Trump.
04:59Trump has always supported John Jones.
05:02And if this is indeed his event on the White House lawn, some believe he could personally
05:07request Jones to headline.
05:08And if that happens, even Dana White might be forced to reconsider.
05:12First and foremost, are you retired?
05:15I am not retired.
05:16I'm active in training, obviously.
05:19And I'm in the UFC's drug testing pool.
05:22Great.
05:22And what's the status of the fight at the White House?
05:26I don't really know.
05:27It's kind of out of my control right now.
05:28I'm training for the event.
05:30I'll be ready for the event.
05:31That's my goal.
05:31That's my intention.
05:33But ultimately, it's up to the boss.
05:35I feel freaking tremendous.
05:37I'm training constantly.
05:39The brand's in a great place.
05:40They're doing really cool things.
05:42Cool people like yourself.
05:43And I'm just happy to be here.
05:45Are you going to be a part of this White House card?
05:47I don't know.
05:48I'm definitely training constantly for the opportunity.
05:52My goal is to just show Dana how serious I am about being in the event.
05:55And I hope he chooses me.
05:56But ultimately, it's in his hands.
05:58He's the boss.
05:59It's got to be a good sign that you're here, though.
06:01Like with CBS and Paramount Plus and this big UFC deal.
06:05I feel like if you weren't in everyone's good graces right now,
06:08I probably wouldn't be talking to you, right?
06:10Exactly.
06:10It's a great sign that I'm not only here, but a part of the production, a part of this.
06:16Donald Trump mentioned that he wanted to have a fight at the White House card.
06:19And that just seems like such a huge opportunity.
06:22I'm a very proud American.
06:23I have a lot of close friends that are in the military.
06:25Just to be able to entertain the country and the world at this level at the White House,
06:29it just means the world to me.
06:30So I'm back.
06:31Hey, so they've announced this White House UFC fight.
06:35What do you think about that?
06:36I think it's exciting.
06:38Very exciting.
06:39Can we expect to see you on the card?
06:42I can't promise anyone anything, but I have a very strong feeling that I'll be on that card.
06:47Who would you take on?
06:49Who would be your dream opponent?
06:51I would want to take on the White House holding the belt at the end of the year.
06:54Yeah?
06:54Yeah.
06:55Any possible names, you think?
06:57Well, no, I mean, as of right now, the champion is Tom Askenal.
07:00But we'll see who's the champion at the end of the year.
07:04I feel like the only thing to have a American knife fight for the championship that night.
07:11I'd be willing to put it all along.
07:13Nice.
07:13I saw John Jones, it's back in the testing pool, talking about going on the White House card.
07:21I think with his extensive criminal record, the Secret Service will let him on the White House grounds.
07:28That's such a great question.
07:29That's actually a good question.
07:34Well, we always have to pass background checks when Trump's there and he got the fight.
07:37So I'd imagine he will be.
07:40And I got to be honest with you.
07:41All right.
07:41So listen.
07:42All right.
07:43No disrespect to anyone here.
07:45I love you guys so much.
07:47You can go to the White House and I'm positive you'll win.
07:52Right.
07:53But if we really need an American to win, right, got to kind of send John Jones, don't we?
07:58I mean, seriously, like, I mean, I don't want to do it.
08:01Like, I don't like him, but it's like, if we need an American to win, don't we just send the guy that always wins?
08:07Yeah, no, he's gone.
08:08And he said, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.
08:11And nobody tries harder than me.
08:13Are you sure John Jones doesn't try a little harder than I do?
08:17I don't know.
08:18It's close.
08:19It's close.
08:20It's close.
08:22They're talking about the White House.
08:23They're talking about a White House fight card?
08:25Hey, man, we got to have some Americans win.
08:27I don't like John Jones.
08:29It's no secret.
08:29The whole world knows it.
08:30Right.
08:31I said, man, y'all better put John Jones on there because right now we ain't got one American in the top 10 pound for pound.
08:36I said, if y'all want an American dude to go get a victory, put John Jones in there because he gonna win.
08:41That's what he does.
08:41Obviously, this White House story.
08:43Dana White is asked literally about the White House story every single interview he does.
08:47I almost feel bad for him, but he doesn't seem to mind.
08:50Dana White was on the Zach Gelb show.
08:52Zach does a great job, knows his stuff, asks pertinent questions, and asked Dana White about John Jones.
09:00And in that conversation, Dana White said something that I thought was very telling regarding John Jones.
09:06In case you missed it, here it is.
09:08You said John Jones called you and he apologized.
09:11What was that conversation like?
09:12Well, it wasn't a conversation.
09:13He reached out, he wrote, you know, like a text saying, listen, sorry, how this all played out or whatever.
09:19You know, I want to fight at the White House.
09:22I'm serious about that.
09:24And, you know, just one of those type of...
09:26Has that changed your view?
09:27No.
09:27No, not at all.
09:28So there's no chance he's going to be on the White House.
09:29No, I appreciate it.
09:30I appreciate him reaching out and doing that.
09:33But I need people I can count on for this fight.
09:39And I know who they are.
09:41I know who they are not.
09:42And so Dana White revealing that John Jones apologized to him, to me, is extremely telling.
09:50What is he apologizing for?
09:53I'll tell you what he's apologizing for, as I've said multiple times.
09:56And by the way, has not been refuted by anyone.
09:58At this point, you'd think someone, if it wasn't true, would have refuted it.
10:04John Jones wanted a lot of money.
10:06The number that I was told was $30 million.
10:09The UFC said no.
10:10Then they said yes.
10:10Then they got the money.
10:12They said, we got you the money.
10:13Let's go.
10:14You versus Tom Aspinall.
10:15He said he was in.
10:16Took a few days.
10:17Said he was out.
10:18I've told this story a million times now.
10:19No one has refuted it.
10:20By now, you hopefully believe me.
10:25And Dana White alluded to this when he made the announcement that John Jones had retired
10:29and they were stripping him with the belt or he was vacating the title.
10:32Whatever semantic you want to go with.
10:33And Tom Aspinall was now the new champ.
10:35He said he gave us his word and he backed out.
10:38And now, John Jones is apologizing for doing that.
10:42Or at least it has been revealed that he apologized for doing that.
10:45And what I think is very telling about this is, as I said last week, that interview that
10:51he did on the red carpet with his PR person, John Jones has buyer's remorse.
10:55Or at least, what is the opposite of buyer's remorse?
10:58He didn't buy anything.
10:59He has some kind of remorse.
11:01You know what I'm saying?
11:02FOMO?
11:03Maybe FOMO is the word.
11:04Thank you, Frank.
11:06You're welcome.
11:06He does not want to miss out on what's happening next June, next July.
11:10It sounds like June at the White House.
11:12And he realizes he should have stuck around.
11:15Now, here's where the speculation gets even more dramatic.
11:18While Dana White is adamant that he won't give Jones the spotlight, many fans are saying
11:22that if Donald Trump himself requests John Jones to headline this card, Dana will have
11:26no choice.
11:26Trump has always been a huge fan of Jones.
11:29And if this is truly his White House event, then the UFC president may be forced to
11:32bend.
11:33What a waste of time that was.
11:34And all of that time, letting John just waste time fighting old man Steepi who could barely
11:39fucking walk, let alone fight.
11:41They gave him a bone.
11:42They threw him a bone and went, we'll give you the Steepi fight if you give us the Aspinel
11:45fight.
11:46He took the Steepi fight and then went running.
11:48And we have wasted so many fucking months and all of it for what?
11:53For John Jones to eventually get to the point where the UFC were like, are you going to
11:57fucking fight or not?
11:58And he's put a fucking tweet out to retire.
12:00That's what all of this was for.
12:01A fucking tweet.
12:02John versus Tom would be the biggest fight ever at the White House.
12:05And even Dana has talked about it, that that would be the wish list.
12:08Is that something that you even think about or use as like a, that could be a goal or because
12:12of the past year, you won't allow yourself to even get too worked up over that.
12:16Do you want me to be honest?
12:17It has spent zero seconds in my mind.
12:20That's it.
12:20I'm not, not interested, mate.
12:22Not interested.
12:23And the world shouldn't be interested either because what's the point?
12:25What is false hope?
12:26It'd be a cool experience, but I'm not like, I feel like the Americans should get the shot
12:31at the White House.
12:31I don't do anything there apart from pay taxes and fight there.
12:35So really all of that stuff just is irrelevant to me, to be honest with you.
12:39If Trump steps in and Jones gets the nod, then the matchup seems inevitable.
12:44John Jones versus Tom Aspinall.
12:47A clash of titans in the heavyweight division.
12:49The contrast in their styles, the history, the stakes.
12:53It would be a blockbuster fight.
12:55Fans are already calling it potentially the most iconic MMA event ever held, especially
13:01if it happens at such a symbolic location.
13:04And I've never, I've never truly known where does the mistake come from?
13:09Is it from John or does John have a PR team?
13:13Because most things we get from John are written.
13:16We don't see John.
13:19So when you get a written article, you never know who wrote it.
13:22And so I've never known.
13:23Is John this bad at the sport that he's king of?
13:27Or is he getting advice that is clearly not from somebody who's ever worked within this
13:36sport?
13:37I've not actually known.
13:39I just know of late, it is John and it is organic.
13:43By example, I've seen two interviews, most recent of which, and another one where John was
13:47at an airport and somebody approached him with a camera.
13:51So John's not even expecting an interview, not to mention if he just got off a flight, he's
13:55a little bit sozzled.
13:57Right?
13:58He says, it's not like airplanes are the one place that he decides to stay sober.
14:03So then what you want to think there would be great interviews, but he's nailing them.
14:06I'm going to just give you an example.
14:07Dana comes out and Dana says, John fighting on the White House card is, is one in a billion.
14:13He's letting it be known.
14:15John's not fighting on the White House card.
14:17Letting that be known.
14:18You must understand on that card.
14:23Everyone on the roster would like on it.
14:25So that card is now a reward.
14:28If a guy, if a guy is doing good deeds, a lot of times he would like paid off and he gets
14:34paid off.
14:34He'll get a main event.
14:36He can find himself in a co spot of a main event, title shots, bonuses, an upgrade.
14:45He goes to check in the hotel.
14:46He finds out the UFC call and got him an upgrade to a suite.
14:48I mean, I'm just sharing like you do good deeds.
14:51There's incentives to do good deeds right now.
14:56Guys, we don't have an American in the top 10.
14:59We don't have an American in the top 10.
15:04We don't have an American champion outside of Kayla Harris.
15:09Now that John Jones retired.
15:11So who do we send out there on July 4th to get a victory?
15:15I say send John Jones.
15:16He's going to win.
15:17That's what he's done his whole career.
15:19If it's going to be somebody that we have to trust to win for the country, you send
15:24that dude.
15:27Dana White breaks John's heart.
15:30And I think Dana has, he has come to the conclusion that he's not going to, you know, hit John with
15:37a zinger, but clearly he was annoyed at how all this went down.
15:41He was annoyed that John said yes and then said no and said he was in and then said he
15:45was out and then dragged his feed and all this stuff and now vacated the title.
15:48Clearly that annoyed him and I don't blame him for being annoyed.
15:52So Dana is asked about John being interested in fighting on this card and you can just
15:57feel thousands of miles away John's heartbreak.
16:01I mean, Dana hit him with a zinger there.
16:03He hit him with a zinger.
16:04He broke his heart.
16:05He crushed his dreams.
16:07And he essentially said, no, we're not doing this in case you missed it.
16:11But the big question remains, will Dana White hold his ground?
16:15Despite calling Jones one of the greatest fighters in history, Dana has made it clear he can't
16:20gamble such a historic night on someone who might pull out again.
16:25Fighters like Conor McGregor, he says, are proven performers under pressure.
16:29Jones, not so much.
16:31A UFC is coming to the White House.
16:34Are you excited about this?
16:35I mean, I mean, have you thought about it?
16:37I mean, it's a pretty cool thing.
16:37I'm ecstatic the Mac is back.
16:39And what better event than to grace the White House long for a straighter?
16:43Well, I do best.
16:44I'm very, very excited.
16:45Very eager.
16:46Very motivated.
16:47Bring it on, baby.
16:48Do you think that's when you maybe come back?
16:50I mean, what about come back for you?
16:51I'm very happy that it's June.
16:54It was on in July.
16:55Now it's a month earlier.
16:56Even better.
16:57Bring it to April.
16:58Why not?
16:58Let's celebrate the birthday early.
16:59I celebrate my birthday months in advance.
17:02So we could potentially see maybe possibly White House Conor McGregor.
17:07That's a definitely.
17:08That's a definitely.
17:09That's awesome.
17:09That's my event.
17:10That is your event.
17:11That is.
17:11We're going to be on the fucking South Lawn of the White House.
17:16Give a shit if there's if it's just my production people.
17:19I'm good.
17:20Yeah, it's insane.
17:21The fighters are going to walk out of the Oval Office.
17:25When they walk, they're walking from the Oval Office.
17:29Yeah.
17:29Even for just American history, this will be looked back on forever.
17:35People talk shit about Conor.
17:37I'm telling you, I've been in the fucking trenches with Conor.
17:41Conor is a guy that has fought injured.
17:44Conor is a guy that a fighter has fallen out.
17:48And we slid in a stylistically bad matchup for him.
17:52He doesn't care.
17:53He literally will fight anybody.
17:55But does he care enough to actually make a fight right now?
17:58Like, does he?
17:59Is he actually?
18:00When's the last time he fights?
18:01He and I have been talking nonstop.
18:03And he's like, I'm dead serious.
18:05I want this.
18:06You know, I'm training.
18:06And I'm back in the pool.
18:08I'm doing all the shit.
18:10So we'll see.
18:10As we still got a long way to go.
18:13We still got a long way to go until February.
18:15Till we start making this card.
18:16So we'll see how it plays.
18:18And they do get rewarded.
18:20But when the White House card becomes that way.
18:27Now there is a politics behind it.
18:31Which is, I can't use a spot.
18:34And I'm not going to use a spot.
18:37That I could give to somebody that did good deeds.
18:40And the entire roster wants it.
18:42That's a literal statement.
18:43I want 738 athletes.
18:48And all 738 want on this.
18:52And with that understanding.
18:54I can't bring somebody in that did the opposite of good.
18:59I can't bring somebody in that I was counting on.
19:02Putting at the top of the bill at Madison Square Garden.
19:07Who refused to do it.
19:10Refused it when I needed him.
19:12And the whole industry knows.
19:13I wanted him.
19:17Can't bring him in.
19:18And put him in one of those spots.
19:20And when I say that you can't.
19:22This is figurative.
19:23Sure you could.
19:25Real easily you could.
19:27John's past speaks for itself.
19:29And many fans are split.
19:31Some say he's done enough for the sport to earn this moment.
19:34That his legacy is undeniable.
19:36And this return is long overdue.
19:39Others argue he's had too many chances.
19:41And Aspinall deserves a more reliable opponent.
19:45Someone who's active and consistent.
19:47For the reasons it's because there is a structure and guys understand it.
19:50That structure gets showed a respect to.
19:52And it's for those reasons.
19:56That John Jones will not be on the White House card.
19:59But either way he said that he would like to be.
20:03So when Dana says there's a one in a billion chance.
20:07That now means to John something that you want.
20:10You're not going to get.
20:12Unlikely.
20:13John Jones is actually negative a billion to one.
20:15Well a billion to one that he won't compete.
20:19Yeah a billion to one that he won't compete.
20:20But I asked.
20:21He's still taking five dollar bets on them.
20:22I'm saying.
20:22I'm saying.
20:23What?
20:24Where?
20:24In that.
20:25Oh in that clip.
20:26That's right.
20:26That's right.
20:27Give him five dollars.
20:28If John Jones fights on it.
20:29You'll get five billion back.
20:30There's almost like two lines here.
20:32There's.
20:32Are they going to try to get him on the card?
20:34I think it's like a.
20:35A minus 500.
20:37Does he fight on the card?
20:38Is the question.
20:39I'll have it at like a.
20:41This is Connor you're talking about?
20:42Yeah I'll have it at like a minus 175.
20:46He fights.
20:47Yeah.
20:48I've always said every interview that I've ever done.
20:50I've always said he will fight again.
20:52In some way shape or form.
20:54Would that be in a fight against the KSI or Jake Paul?
20:56Would that be a bare knuckle?
20:57Would that be a White House card?
20:59This seems to be something that would motivate him enough.
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