00:00Do you still think that there's room to grow when it comes to like curvy girls being fully accepted in the industry?
00:05Yes, I think so.
00:07Yeah, especially like the natural bodies, because obviously like no one's ever going to have like a flat stomach or abs and a fat ass.
00:13Like that's really unachievable.
00:16But we should learn to love like cellulite, love handles, a little, you know, a little fupa.
00:23Yeah.
00:24You know, not everyone's going to have like a perfect body because when you really think about it, I go outside.
00:30And I see a bunch of like thicker women or like just, I mean, obviously people are going to be in shape, but it's like, like not everyone has a Victoria's Secret body.
00:39Not everyone has like big boobs, flat stomach and a big butt, you know?
00:44So I think diversity is very important because then also as a viewer, like a woman, you're not just generalized to having that body.
00:51And I feel like women, our bodies are objectified and a lot of people expect us to look a certain way.
00:58So when you, I think there should be definitely more curvy women because then it gives like normal women the expectations.
01:04Like I don't have to look this perfect.
01:05Like this, I think that's why a lot of women, like when I come, like when I do conventions, a lot of them will come up to me and say,
01:11like, thank you, like for representing like thicker thigh women or like, you know, just thick women in general, girls with like saggy tits, because I do have natural saggy tits.
01:21It's not a bad thing.
01:22It's like, it's normal.
01:23It's like real.
01:24Yeah.
01:25So I think definitely it needs to be more represented and in a positive way, not in a negative.
01:31Cause I remember like hating my thighs when I was in high school and thinking they were so huge.
01:35And of course I was like so much lighter than I am now.
01:38Yeah.
01:39And now I'm like, and I'm like, okay, with the size of my thighs now, I'm like, fuck, I wish it was like that back when I was younger.
01:46But I agree with you when I see thicker women and I've noticed that my perception has changed and I think it's been shaped by being in the adult industry and being around so many people that embrace diversity and meeting so many like bigger women that are like proud of their sexuality and not afraid to get naked in front of the camera and are empowered women.
02:05And I think that that has shaped the way that I see women because now I'll see like a thicker woman out like wearing, you know, like more revealing clothes.
02:13Whereas, I mean, look, to be honest, like 20 years ago, I might've been like, oh my God, why is she wearing that?
02:19And now I see that.
02:19I'm like, you know what?
02:21She feels confident.
02:22Good for you.
02:23Like that confidence that you're wearing right now is sexy.
02:26And like, I love that.
02:28Like, and I admire that.
02:30And I find that, and it's actually attractive.
02:32It's attractive.
02:33It is.
02:34Which is like something that I think that I never would have thought I would have seen before.
02:39And of course I was so much more self-critical when I was younger because you just tend to be.
02:43It's just comparison too.
02:45Yeah.
02:45And now that I'm like older and I see that, I think that's helped me embrace like my changing body.
02:51You know, like you said, you mentioned like accepting cellulite, like.
02:55That's the hardest thing.
02:56But, you know, it's like, I got that.
02:58I mean, I'm 45 and I had a kid.
03:00Like.
03:00I could just Photoshop it.
03:02Yeah.
03:02I mean, I don't, don't get me wrong.
03:04I do that too.
03:05I love doing that.
03:06But, but I'll like, you know, like wear shorts out.
03:09I'm like, this is, this is what it is.
03:11Yeah.
03:11I feel like guys generally, they don't care the way that we think they do.
03:16Yes.
03:17They don't.
03:18You know, like the way that women view, way that we view and criticize ourselves.
03:22I feel like men, majority of men do not look at us the way that we look at ourselves.
03:27No.
03:27And then also too, I was having like a deep thought a few days ago.
03:31I even tweeted it, but I deleted it because people were like, are you okay?
03:34But I was like, we don't really like know what we look like to someone else.
03:40Like how I like see you right now is what you, it's different than when you see in the mirror,
03:44you know?
03:45So yeah, we are our worst critics.
03:49Yeah.
03:49But yeah, the body dysmorphia stuff is, is real and it's crazy.
03:53And I've, I noticed that especially because I'm in, I've spent most of my life behind the camera.
03:59Right.
04:00And now like I'm in front of the camera a little bit and the way that I see myself and the way other people see me.
04:07And I compare that to like when I shoot a model and the models like, you know, if I get a model who's got some insecurity, she's like, oh God, I hate that part of me.
04:15I'm like, I didn't like, I see that and it doesn't bother me at all.
04:21Like I don't even notice it.
04:22And that's the first thing she looks at.
04:24And I'm always like, why would you hyper focus on that?
04:27Like nobody else sees that.
04:28But now like that I'm spending some time in front of the camera, I do the same thing.
04:32My eye goes to whatever part of my body I hate.
04:35That's the first thing I look at.
04:36And I'm like, and then it like colors the entire thing for me and nobody else is seeing that.
04:42And it's, it's, yeah, it's wild.
04:45Yeah.
04:45That's why I kind of learned to like, you know what?
04:48Just kind of just be happy that you're just healthy because that's the number one thing is health.
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