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This is the journey of Reginald and Vanessa Hall. They’re not celebrities you see in magazines, but they are true heroes. The kind of people who take the hard things life throws their way and say, “Okay, what next? Let’s do this together.” Grab your favorite drink, settle in, and let’s walk through their story together.
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00:34Hey guys, it's me, Yaya, what's up, people, how you doin', it's a great day
00:39I am so excited
00:40You know, usually I have authors, musicians, I've got celebrities
00:44I've got all different kind of other people on the show
00:46Just people, right?
00:48Well, this cause is just one of those things that's just been popping up in my timeline
00:54IVFs
00:56And I've seen videos, I've never seen it in person, but I've seen videos of women going through IVF
01:02And I hear it's pretty, pretty hard
01:04Not only physically hard, but mentally hard
01:08On not only the woman, but also the man
01:11And we're going to be talking about, you know, well, up to a couple
01:15And they're going to be telling us about their IVF journey
01:19What they're doing, what they've gone through
01:21And in the hope that they have of starting their own beautiful, wonderful family
01:28I want to welcome to the show, Reginald and Vanessa Hall
01:33Thank you guys so much for joining me today
01:35Thank you so much
01:37Thank you for having us
01:38Thank you
01:39So, I mean, you know, when it came to the beginning of the story
01:44You wanted to have kids
01:46Did you know, or you didn't know, that you weren't able to do that right away?
01:51We knew that we were unable to
01:58Yeah
02:01And then, how did that affect you?
02:05Did you want to have kids in the beginning?
02:07Or was it just, oh, we just wait?
02:10I know it's a sensitive topic
02:24I get it, it's very sensitive
02:26And what, I mean, you know, I see that on your face
02:30That you've gone through a lot
02:32And, you know, to get where you guys are today
02:35And I realize it, so take your time, no rush
02:40We, well, I found out that we both, yes, were in wanting to have a child
02:51But I pretty much seemed like it was a little hard to break it down to him
02:56That I was unable to
02:59Right
03:00When you found out, Reginald, that Vanessa wasn't able to
03:06How did that affect you?
03:09I was like, okay, if we can't have a, you know, a baby naturally, there's other options out there
03:20So I didn't want her to feel like I was disappointed in her or anything like that
03:25My mindset was like, okay, so what can we do?
03:27That's where I was at
03:28Yeah, yeah, you know, a lot of people put pressure on women to have a baby
03:33You gotta have a baby, you know, you know, if you can't have a baby, you're not a woman
03:38I don't, I think that that comes from other women
03:42Coming from a man, Reginald, how do you feel? Is that viable?
03:48No, I don't think that's true at all because every woman have their own story and reason behind
03:54Why they can or cannot, you know, have a child
03:58So I don't think that's fair to say that, you know, you're not a woman if you can't bury a child
04:03Yeah, I agree with you, I agree with you
04:05Vanessa, how did you grow up? Was it like that for you?
04:08Because I know for me it was like that, oh, you gotta have a kid
04:11You just can't be like you, you're not a woman if you don't have kids
04:15Was it like that for you or was it just something self-conscious in you that
04:20No, most definitely like that, it was more like the traditional ways
04:24You get older, you get your career set, you get married and you have kids
04:30I did not know that there was such thing as females not being able to carry their own children
04:36Yeah, yeah, that sucks, that just sucks
04:41Because every body is different, every female body is different
04:46You know, I was the only one my mom could have
04:49And she barely carried me
04:51And every child after that was in miscarriage
04:55Every single last one, she could not hold no more
04:58I was the miracle child
05:00I come with lots of deficiencies because she couldn't eat during her pregnancy
05:04So she had to be intravenously fed
05:09So there are different, different situations that we all have to go through as a woman
05:16But not being able to have a kid, it doesn't make you less of a woman
05:21But now you want to have children
05:23So now you have a journey
05:24Tell me, have you already gone through this process
05:27And now you're going through it a second time?
05:29Or is this your first time?
05:31This would actually be our second time trying
05:36I got you
05:38And what was your first experience like?
05:41I mean, for both of you
05:42So I guess, ladies first
05:44Vanessa?
05:46It was exciting, nerve wracking
05:49We didn't know
05:51Like we knew the process
05:53But we did not know it was going to take so much out of us
05:57Mentally, emotionally, physically, financially as well
06:02And this was more of a teamwork
06:06Sacrificing, working hard to make sure that our goals was going to be met and accomplished
06:14And Reginald, I mean, seeing her go through this
06:18Cause there are shots
06:19Did you give her the shots?
06:20Did she give herself the shots?
06:23What was that like for you?
06:25It was a mixture of both
06:27Some shots she administered herself
06:29And some of the shots I did
06:31But I was there helping her
06:32And encouraging her
06:33And telling her
06:34It's going to be okay
06:35Like through the pain and everything
06:36With the different shots that she had to do
06:38So I was there coaching her and everything
06:40Every step
06:41That's wonderful
06:42That's beautiful
06:43To be together like that
06:45To see that this is going to be a, you know
06:49A husband and wife effort
06:51It's going to be something that she can't do alone
06:53And that you Reginald can't do alone
06:56There are two different outcomes
06:58And I'm looking for the first one
07:01Baby
07:02Okay
07:03But you also said that there are other options
07:06And I have also seen videos of women who couldn't naturally conceive in the beginning
07:13And later on in life
07:14Boom, they're pregnant
07:15It's like, what the heck happened?
07:17You know, so
07:18Tell me about that feeling
07:20You know, what if it works?
07:22What if it doesn't work?
07:23Do you guys have a backup plan?
07:25Our first embryo actually did work
07:32And everything was going according to plan
07:37We were so close to graduating from our fertility clinic
07:42To be on our own with it
07:45But unfortunately
07:47We had a miscarriage
07:52And that was recently on August 13th
07:56I got you
07:57I can remember it clearly like it happens every day
08:00In my mind over and over again
08:02It's tough
08:04It's tough
08:05My mom never got over losing her babies
08:09But she also told me
08:11She said there were probably going to be multiple problems with that child
08:15And because
08:17I don't know if you guys believe
08:18But I do
08:19The most high took the child
08:20Because it would just have suffered too much in life
08:23And so
08:25And so
08:26That child's not here today
08:28But
08:30You have a new journey that you guys are going on
08:35Tell me how you're preparing for it
08:36Because I know you guys are sitting in the nursery now
08:38I saw the crib
08:40Hey!
08:41Yes
08:43The nursery is pretty much waiting on
08:47The finale
08:50The baby
08:52And we're excited
08:54We're nervous
08:55It's
08:56I know that the feeling
08:58From the first one
09:00Pretty much with everyone
09:02Everything that we went through
09:03Is going to carry on to the next
09:05And that's very nerve-wracking
09:07Just the thought of
09:09Even though you want to stay positive
09:11And we have faith in it going through
09:15But it's still nerve-wracking
09:17Yep, definitely
09:19Yep, just getting our mind right
09:21And just being prepared to do it again
09:23You know, it takes a lot of hard work
09:24And, you know, prayer
09:25And
09:26Just different emotions and everything
09:28Going through this process
09:29But
09:30We've been, you know, recharging our mind
09:32And, you know, just getting ready
09:34And getting prepared to, you know, give it another shot
09:36Mm-hmm
09:37What are you guys doing differently this time
09:39That you didn't do the last time?
09:40I heard one woman had her tata sewn
09:45I don't know
09:46It was sewn up
09:48You go, hold this baby
09:50Okay?
09:52But
09:53I don't know if that's the extreme or not
09:55I didn't
09:56I don't understand
09:57But what are you guys doing differently this time?
09:59Is there like a different plan?
10:01Is there a reason that the first one probably didn't take as well?
10:06Or you had a miscarriage?
10:10There's really not
10:12They couldn't find a reason into why the miscarriage happened
10:15Everything was
10:17Good
10:19Let it go
10:20Very healthy
10:21And
10:22So
10:23We're not sure what happened
10:24I got you
10:25I got you
10:26And Reginald, you know, as a father
10:30Hey
10:32Hey
10:33Because you know what?
10:34Even though you are
10:36You're not holding your baby
10:37And I don't mean to make this emotional
10:39I do know what it's like to be a parent
10:42I have my children
10:43And I have three grandchildren now
10:45Yes, I'm an old woman
10:47Okay?
10:49But
10:52I know what it's like to miscarry
10:54Because I miscarried too
10:56I don't consider those babies not mine
11:00Even though I couldn't hold them
11:03They were still my babies
11:04So
11:05In retrospect
11:06I'm
11:07Mother
11:08Of four children
11:09Two
11:10Alive
11:12Being that you are a mom
11:15And a dad
11:17Regardless of whether you're holding your babies
11:20When you get this baby in your hand
11:22Because I'm believing for
11:25That crib to be filled with a beautiful, beautiful baby
11:28Healthy, beautiful baby
11:30What is that going to be like for you?
11:32And are you going to try again afterwards?
11:35I think at our age and everything
11:41After going through this process
11:43The emotions behind it
11:45You know, the financial
11:47Challenges behind and everything
11:49This is what we want
11:51You know, we just want this one child
11:52And it'll, you know, complete our journey
11:56You know, just, you know, the missing piece
11:58And the puzzle, you know, in our relationship
12:01So I think, you know, once God bless us with this one
12:04Because I'm really believing that it's going to happen
12:06That I think we'll be, we'll be set
12:09You know, we'll be satisfied
12:10This will be what we really wanted
12:11I got you
12:13Well, my whole point is to make sure that we take you through
12:19Every possibility, right?
12:21And to help other people understand
12:24That the desire to have a baby
12:27Is to complete a family
12:29Even though not having a baby
12:31Doesn't mean you're not complete
12:35But what if it doesn't take this time?
12:38Are you going to go into surrogacy?
12:39Are you going to go into surrogacy?
12:42That's actually what we do it now
12:44It's actually my sister-in-law
12:46Which is my wife's sister
12:48Is actually a surrogate
12:50She the one who carried the other one for us
12:52And she's on board to do it again
12:54So that's exactly the way we do it
12:56Like do surrogacy
12:58That is beautiful
13:00I think that's wonderful
13:02Vanessa, you know, I know this is hard for you, girl
13:06I know it is
13:07But I want to encourage you
13:10You're perfect
13:12Thank you
13:14You're perfect
13:16There is absolutely nothing wrong with you
13:18There's never been anything wrong with you
13:20There will never be anything wrong with you
13:22And just because your physical body
13:25Is not able to carry
13:27We can say, yet
13:29Because we don't know, right?
13:31We don't know
13:33Reginald, do we really know what the future brings?
13:34We never know
13:37We know that anything is possible with God
13:39So you never can say never
13:41Despite what the doctors may say
13:43Or what you may have heard
13:44God have the final say
13:46So anything can happen
13:48My mom was told that she could not have babies
13:50That she would not be able to hold a baby
13:53When she got pregnant with me
13:54They told her to abort me
13:56Because it would kill her
13:57And she says, well, I guess I'm going to heaven early
14:01Hmm
14:03You know, that was her thing
14:06She wanted me
14:08And she wanted me
14:10That was it
14:11And she suffered through the whole thing to get me
14:13Never give up
14:15Never give up
14:17This might not be, you know
14:18See, the body matures in different times too
14:22You know
14:24And so, Vanessa
14:25Your body may not be mature
14:27It may need a little bit extra development
14:30Before you can hold a baby
14:32I don't know
14:34You know
14:36But
14:37I'm telling you, you're perfect
14:39Okay?
14:41You're just fine the way you are
14:43And you have a beautiful husband that loves you
14:45You know, I have my husband that loves me
14:47He loves you
14:48I can see it in his eyes
14:50He loves you, okay?
14:52So, this is a beautiful thing
14:54And, you know
14:56Just because the last one didn't take
14:58This one should take very well
15:00Even if you have to sew up your sister
15:05I wanted to make it comical
15:07But, you know
15:09What kind of advice do you guys give
15:11To people who are going through the situation?
15:13Because this is not just a you situation
15:16I find that this is something
15:18That's been going on for a minute
15:20For a lot of people
15:24I would say don't go in it
15:26Expecting and having a plan
15:30Everything turns to different directions
15:34The timeframes are different
15:37That's when you get a bit frustrating
15:40When things don't happen the way that you've planned it in your head
15:45You just have to be open-minded to it
15:47Definitely stay positive always
15:50Take care of yourself
15:53And have that support
15:55And, of course, I've always turned to my husband
15:59To talk about whatever it is that I'm feeling at the time
16:02And that's always comforting
16:04Mm-hmm
16:06Reginald?
16:09Yeah, and that's the same thing I tell people as well
16:12That, you know, the road isn't going to be easy
16:15It's going to be a lot of ups and downs
16:17It's hard to really plan it
16:18Because you go in so many different directions
16:20You think one thing and then be another
16:22You get hit with this, you get hit with that
16:24It's all over the place
16:25So it's a lot of praying
16:27It's a lot of encouraging each other
16:29Definitely got to be strong
16:31Because it will bring you down to your knees
16:34If you're not strong enough
16:36Because it's a lot, you know, that goes on with this IVF journey
16:39Yeah, it does
16:41Especially since you guys have a surrogate
16:43So you have someone that's going to be
16:45And someone in the family, which is really good
16:46That's going to actually carry this baby all the way to term
16:50And that's what I believe
16:52Is there anything that we've missed today that you would like to say?
16:57Well, we actually
17:00Speaking on our journey
17:02We actually have a book that we're working on
17:04It should be coming out within the next couple of weeks
17:06That's my prayer because we really want to share this story
17:08And get it out to as many people as possible
17:11So we have a book that's going to be coming soon
17:13And we got some more collaborations and everything
17:16And, you know, we're really trying to get this story out there
17:18Because we didn't even know that it's so many people who
17:22Is in the same boat as us
17:24And we just want to be able to share our story with others
17:25And let them know that, hey, it may not have worked the first time
17:29But, you know, just, you know, don't give up
17:31And, you know, just keep the faith
17:33Yeah, definitely
17:35I commend you guys on writing this book
17:37Do you realize how many people you're going to help?
17:39Can I help?
17:43You know, I think
17:45Yeah, right?
17:46Well, you know how many people
17:48Okay, so let me tell you the smartest places on earth
17:51You ready?
17:53The graveyards
17:57So many people have taken their story to the grave
17:59And never ever helped another soul
18:01There's so many issues that a lot of people go through
18:04That everybody feels like, you know, hey, nobody else is going through this situation
18:07But we are in our own way, you know, it's not the same exactly
18:12It could be very similar
18:14But we need help getting through certain situations
18:16So by writing this book, you guys are truly helping not only yourselves
18:20But other people
18:22And I commend you on that
18:24That is a hard decision to make
18:26To open up and just be open
18:29Very hard
18:31Vanessa, Reginald
18:34Congratulations on your new baby
18:37Thank you so much
18:39We're going to fill that nursery
18:41Yes
18:43And you guys let me know how it goes
18:45And also send me your link to your book
18:47But also keep your eye out on YouTube
18:49That's where you can comment and I'm going to go ahead and pin your comment
18:51When you get the link for your book
18:53When it comes out, we're going to go ahead and put that up there
18:55And make sure that people can actually buy it
18:56I want people to know that you're not alone in the IVF journey
19:00You're definitely not alone in this
19:02And there's a lot of people going through it in their own way
19:04And if you need help and if you need encouragement
19:07When that book comes out, go ahead and get that book
19:10Because you'll see that you are not alone
19:13Reginald, Vanessa, thank you guys so much for being on the show
19:16I appreciate it so very much
19:18And your story touches me, but you guys are special
19:19But you guys are special
19:20And I know, I know, and I pray
19:24And I do hope and pray and know
19:27I'm going to go on the first end
19:29That this baby is coming for you guys
19:31It's going to be your rainbow baby
19:33Thank you so much
19:35Alright, alright then guys
19:36Thank you for being here
19:38Keep your eye out on that book guys
19:40We're going to put that book in the link below
19:41Once it comes out
19:43And that way you know
19:44But if anything, we're going to put your social media accounts on there
19:46If they have something, we're going to put it there
19:47So you can follow them
19:49And follow their IVF journey
19:51So that you too can be encouraged
19:53With whatever you're going through
19:54Remember, a journey is a journey
19:56And sometimes you just need other people to be going through something
19:58To help you through your moment
20:00I want to thank you guys so much for tuning in
20:02Don't forget to dare to be different
20:04And until next time, please stay positive
20:06You got this!
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