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Book Name: Under 80 Hours: An Untold True Crime Story
Author Name: R. Scott Crabtree (Author)
Book Link: https://www.amazon.com/Under-80-Hours-Untold-Crime-ebook/dp/B0FHJ7KH36/ref
About the Author
R. Scott Crabtree retired from the FBI in 2007, after serving as an agent for nearly 25 years. During his unique and diverse career, Scott worked on numerous high-profile investigations and on cases in all of the FBI’s investigative programs (i.e., white collar, terrorism, counterintelligence, cyber, and civil rights).
While Scott served in multiple field offices during his career, he is one of a scant few FBI agents to have served in the FBI’s largest field office (New York City), its smallest office (a “one-man” resident agency), and also at FBIHQ.
In the immediate aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing, Scott performed numerous critical and time-sensitive investigative tasks in Central Kansas, including conducting an extensive interview of bombing suspect Terry Nichols.
Scott later testified in multiple hearings and in the trials of both Nichols and Timothy McVeigh. Prior to joining the FBI, Scott served in the Marine Corps and, after retiring, he worked for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
Looking back, Scott is incredibly appreciative of the significant opportunities that unfolded for him throughout his career, and his desire in writing this book is to provide a never-told version of his first few frantic, non-stop days of investigation after the Oklahoma City bombing.
00:00 Intro & Motivation
01:16 Becoming an Author
02:41 FBI’s Role
08:11 Case Aftermath
13:09 Emotional Impact
18:11 Book Insights
23:10 Final Thoughts
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Author Name: R. Scott Crabtree (Author)
Book Link: https://www.amazon.com/Under-80-Hours-Untold-Crime-ebook/dp/B0FHJ7KH36/ref
About the Author
R. Scott Crabtree retired from the FBI in 2007, after serving as an agent for nearly 25 years. During his unique and diverse career, Scott worked on numerous high-profile investigations and on cases in all of the FBI’s investigative programs (i.e., white collar, terrorism, counterintelligence, cyber, and civil rights).
While Scott served in multiple field offices during his career, he is one of a scant few FBI agents to have served in the FBI’s largest field office (New York City), its smallest office (a “one-man” resident agency), and also at FBIHQ.
In the immediate aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing, Scott performed numerous critical and time-sensitive investigative tasks in Central Kansas, including conducting an extensive interview of bombing suspect Terry Nichols.
Scott later testified in multiple hearings and in the trials of both Nichols and Timothy McVeigh. Prior to joining the FBI, Scott served in the Marine Corps and, after retiring, he worked for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
Looking back, Scott is incredibly appreciative of the significant opportunities that unfolded for him throughout his career, and his desire in writing this book is to provide a never-told version of his first few frantic, non-stop days of investigation after the Oklahoma City bombing.
00:00 Intro & Motivation
01:16 Becoming an Author
02:41 FBI’s Role
08:11 Case Aftermath
13:09 Emotional Impact
18:11 Book Insights
23:10 Final Thoughts
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00:00I'm tired of time.
00:30Be good.
00:32Be very good.
00:34I've always tried to be good.
00:36Always tried to be good.
00:37It's difficult.
00:38It's difficult.
00:39But I'm doing a good job at it.
00:42Hey!
00:42I want to thank you guys so much for tuning in.
00:44This is Yaya Diamond.
00:45And you're watching or listening to Dream Chasers Radio.
00:49And I have an interview today with an amazing author.
00:54Yes, an amazing author.
00:55I don't even know if he knew he was going to be an author.
00:57By the way that this book came about, I'm not really sure if he kind of figured out that he was going to write this book.
01:04But this is called Under 80 Hours, An Untold True Crime Story.
01:10Get out of the block.
01:12I love true crime.
01:13So we just have to get with this gentleman, Mr. Scott Crabtree.
01:16Thank you so much for being here with us today.
01:19I appreciate it very much.
01:20Thank you for having me.
01:22So, okay.
01:23All right.
01:24Did you know or did you not know?
01:26Or was this kind of like, you know, I should write it?
01:31There was a lot of time that's passed since the incident, the Oklahoma City bombing.
01:36So I've had 30 years to think about it.
01:38I've had numerous people tell me over the course of my career and stuff that knew about it.
01:44And knew some of the details that I talked about how things happen and stuff that had always kind of encouraged me to write it.
01:49But it was one of those things I kept thinking, well, you know, it's getting longer and longer to go and everything like that.
01:55So maybe it wouldn't be quite as, you know, pertinent or interesting or whatever to people right now.
02:01But I happened to get a chance to do, appear in a Netflix special earlier this year and preparing for that kind of got me back in the mindset of thinking about all the things that had happened.
02:15And I got some strong encouragement from one of the people that I was working with Netflix that they would use very little of what I really was interviewed and taped for.
02:26But they thought that I had a bunch of great information that might be valuable to people, for people to know.
02:31So that's kind of what was the kind of the final prodding that I needed, I guess, to sit down last fall and start writing the book.
02:38I gotcha. I gotcha. So how did OK, so how did you get involved with this in the first place?
02:44What was your your particular role in this, if I may ask?
02:47Sure, I was I'd been in the FBI for quite a long time at that point and was assigned to an office in central Kansas, a one person office.
02:57And it just so happened that as the bombing investigation went on during the morning of the bombing back in April 19th of 95,
03:08they found out that the truck that had been used for the bombing was a rider truck that had been rented out of Junction City, Kansas.
03:16And that was a location fairly close to my office.
03:19So I got a call to go over there and find what I could about the renters and get all the documents back to the lab back at headquarters so they could chest for fingerprints and and things like that.
03:29So that's kind of the the way I got involved.
03:32And then it kind of snowballed from there for the next two or three days with other work that necessarily came after it.
03:39Wow. Wow. So, I mean, being the investigator on this crime, being the person that had to go out and see this.
03:46I mean, OK, so you in a single moment or in a in in that first four days, you made you made that investigation, you you realized what?
03:57Who was responsible or did you have?
04:00Well, yeah, like I said, the idea was that I would go pick up the documents.
04:04And when I got there to to do that and interviewed the people at the the body shop, Elliot's body shop, which was where it was rented out on the Monday prior.
04:15I was getting all the information I could from him and I one of the persons that I ended up interviewing was able to give me enough detail that I felt like we could maybe get a sketch that we could then show around.
04:27If the person at the rent of the truck from there, I thought maybe there'd been a chance they'd stayed or they lived in the area and been in the area.
04:33So we might get lucky. So I showed up and did that.
04:37Things just kind of roll from there. We ended up flying a sketch artist in from Washington, D.C.
04:43overnight. I got sketches the next morning and took those sketches and I got a bunch of search teams together.
04:50We showed the sketches around the Junction City, Kansas area, Fort Riley area to a number of businesses.
04:56And we just got lucky at one of them. Tim McVeigh had stayed there with his with actually with the truck that he drove down to Oklahoma City.
05:03And the owner of the place, I think it had some prior experience with him, maybe staying there.
05:11But in any case, when we showed her the sketch, she recognized who it was.
05:15And for whatever reason, a lucky break on our part, he had actually used his true name and the nickels address in Michigan for their farm.
05:24So that gave us that was able to give us get us into reality where we could actually go out and do something with it.
05:30Because up until then, we just kind of we knew we were chasing somebody.
05:34So at that point, we started we sent the information up to Michigan Detroit office and they went out and started doing what they could with it.
05:42And then we decided that, you know, we'd keep pushing that, but we would keep on moving, even if that didn't pan out or whatever.
05:50Friday morning, the news came to us.
05:55We had done searches from headquarters that had determined that McVeigh had actually been picked up an hour after the bombing by the highway patrol there in Oklahoma for driving a vehicle without a license plate.
06:05And he also had a concealed weapon on him, so they took him into custody.
06:11And another great stroke of luck is that he didn't get to go to the judge to be bonded out on Thursday morning.
06:21So by the time they were bringing him out on Friday to bond him out, and he would have been free to go on his own recognizance.
06:26Just minutes before that, we were able to contact him and say, don't let him go.
06:30So we got very close to him.
06:32And then our attention turned because of the Nichols connection.
06:35We started looking for Terry Nichols, who we'd been determined had been a soldier with him at Fort Riley back in the late 80s.
06:42And then we were, so we had a lot of efforts into trying to locate him and just in kind of a real, another real quirk is I'm from Harrington, which is where we found Terry Nichols.
06:54It's about 35, 40 miles southwest of Junction City in Fort Riley area.
06:59One of the persons that had helped him acquire his house there the month before is an old family friend.
07:04And she is, she immediately called when she heard the attorney general discussing his name on the radio that afternoon.
07:11And she immediately called and told us where he was at down in Harrington.
07:15So things kind of then shifted to Harrington for the rest of that day.
07:19We went down and did an interview with him probably over the span of about eight hours.
07:27We talked to him about six of those hours, taking breaks and giving him food and that kind of stuff in between.
07:32And then after the interview, I was asked to then go down to Wichita, which is where the United States Attorney's Office for the District of Kansas is and get search warrants to search his house.
07:44Wow.
07:45We did that overnight on Saturday night.
07:47And then on Saturday, we brought the search warrant back up to the agents in Harrington.
07:53And they went and did the search and then we went and got Terry Nichols, who'd been placed in a jail, a local jail up there in Dickinson County, Appaline, Kansas.
08:03And we took him down to Wichita to get his initial appearance in front of the judge.
08:09Wow.
08:09After that, we came back.
08:11So from the point of getting called, you know, probably at three o'clock on Wednesday afternoon until about five or so on Saturday afternoon, when we finished with his initial appearance, I'd kind of work straight through to try to make sure that, you know, we didn't miss anything and nothing got away from us.
08:27And then everything like that, because I've found in my career up until that point is that a crime such as this, you know, whether it be a bank robbery or kidnapping or bombing or anything like that, you've got to act fast because the trail can go cold very fast and, you know, evidence kind of go away and everything like that.
08:43So, so anyway, by Saturday night, we were, you know, free to go back and, and go back home.
08:50And then, like I said, then we picked up a normal kind of full bureau major case investigation with a bunch of agents from Kansas City that came out.
08:57We went back over everything for the next couple of weeks to make sure that we hadn't missed anything or anything in our previous investigation.
09:04And we're able to put a pretty good case together.
09:07So, and then I, after that, as time went on, I went back to my office and worked and ended up testifying in Denver three or four or five times based on different hearings they had trying to suppress evidence.
09:20And then the trials for both McVeigh and Nichols.
09:22So all in all, it was probably about a three and a half, four year experience with the case, not full time, but just from start to finish.
09:31That's about how long it took.
09:32And this book basically encompasses that and then some after that about, uh, some of the lessons I learned from that, how it affected me in the rest of my career.
09:40Wow.
09:41Wow.
09:42I mean, the pressure that must've been, wow.
09:46I mean, to get everything done, to get this done, the pressure.
09:49And so then you sat on it for a little bit.
09:52Um, and what, what was it that clicked in your mind that you, you gotta do this?
09:58Was it like that or was it just, ah, I should, I should, I should put a book out, ah, you know, what was it in terms of the, I mean, in terms of the investigation, right?
10:07No, in terms of like writing it, like doing the, the, yeah.
10:12So yeah.
10:12Like in terms of writing it down in terms of, yeah, it was, like I said, it's been a, I mean, of course it's been a long time now.
10:22Um, but I'd had encouragement almost immediately after that, uh, the agents that had worked in the office with me and the new me and stuff, you know, they said, this will make a great story someday and, and that kind of stuff.
10:33And I said, yeah, maybe when my, you know, career's over or something, I'll think about it.
10:37And, uh, but I kept, I moved from there.
10:39I went to, after I transferred, I went to New York and then to Seattle and Washington DC again.
10:43And, uh, um, so my career kept me very busy.
10:47And so, and after about 15 years or 20 years, you, you know, it became something that was kind of history at that point a little bit.
10:54Uh, I kind of, my head kind of thought about it.
10:56But again, when I got involved with the Netflix special, uh, I shot, uh, some footage with them back a year and a half ago.
11:05And what, again, kind of a stroke of luck for me to write this story was that I was able to find out that after the trial of McVeigh and Nichols,
11:12one of the defense attorneys took all the records from the, uh, investigation and the trial that he'd been provided, uh, through discovery.
11:21And he surrendered them to the university of Texas library down there in Austin.
11:25Oh, wow.
11:26So, so that's what really allowed me to think that I could actually put the story together accurately.
11:32So I took a trip to, I took a trip down there last, uh, uh, November.
11:37It's been a couple of days going through all the records, making copies of what I thought I needed.
11:40And then I brought them back and I, I went through them all and kind of highlighted them and made some notes.
11:45And I thought, you know, I just kind of, kind of go through this and it's going to be more of a, what's the right term?
11:51Probably more of a methodical piece about here's, this is how it happened.
11:54Uh, there's not a lot of cloak and dagger, you know, a lot of, you know, it was a cold, rainy night type stuff in it, but it was, it's basically the story of, uh, this is what happened.
12:04And here's how it happened, you know, here's the decisions that were made and here's the things that were going on at the time.
12:09Um, and remarkably after I got into all the documents and I looked at my testimony and, uh, the things that I had written up from doing interviews and all that, I was able to kind of basically put myself back in that time.
12:22I felt confident when I was writing this book that I was getting probably 95 to, you know, 98% of it exactly as it happened.
12:30Just, it wasn't, it was an event that as it happened to me, it was very consuming and having to get ready for every hearing and every trial made you go back and relearn it all again and relive it all again.
12:43So this felt like one of those things that felt like maybe I was getting ready to, uh, go and testify or, or give some kind of a statement or something about it or whatever.
12:53So it just put me in a mindset where I thought, okay, I can, I can tell the story honestly and truthfully.
12:59Um, and if I was ever going to do it, this was the time.
13:02So that's what I saw about a year ago now is when I decided I made the decision and proceeded forward from there.
13:08That's wonderful.
13:09That's wonderful.
13:10So were you, were you at any moment, even now, as you had to relive, you know, this whole, you know, uh, true crime scene and the whole thing, what, were there any emotional attachments that you developed to this particular story or any of your stories?
13:27And, you know, cause I, you know, people hear, oh, I was so into that, that it just hurt me.
13:32Um, was it like that for you for this story?
13:37Yeah, it was.
13:38And it was, uh, after, I mean, after everything was going on, I mean, I knew, I knew that the, the bombing had happened and I knew that there was going to be a, you know, a lot of people that would be deceased after it.
13:49And, uh, and, uh, and then especially listening that, uh, there had been a, uh, a nursery in there where a number of children were also killed.
13:57Um, it was all the motivation I needed to go a hundred miles an hour, as fast as I needed to, you know, as far as I needed to go.
14:03Um, but there was always a little, a little angst and a little like feeling of dread or sorrow, uh, because I didn't, I, I, at the time I was working, I didn't want to let, let these guys get away with it.
14:16If there was anything I could do about it.
14:18So, like I said, at the time, it was really, I just knew there was a lot of people, a lot of innocent people that had perished.
14:24And I thought that they deserved, you know, whatever attention I could give to them.
14:28Um, one time during those first few days, I had my wife come and meet me and bring me some new clothes or bring me some pictures, some newspapers that had pictures in it.
14:36And, uh, it gave me, uh, put my resolve back up right where it needed to be.
14:40I was getting tired, but I decided that, you know, again, it was worth every second that I could spend on this case to make sure that, uh, we got the people that were responsible and could bring them in to.
14:50You know, bring them in for justice and let the courts decide, you know, how to go from there, but at least get them, uh, get them identified, get them in hand and, uh, and make them have to answer questions for it.
15:00So even as I read it now, I mean, there's, it's, it's, it's sad.
15:03I mean, you basically just sat there and think about what happened to people that, you know, a nice, beautiful, you know, April morning in the middle of America, that something like that could happen.
15:13It was just such a shock.
15:15Um, and it was probably the, the, in terms of the case that it probably impacted me like that.
15:20I was mostly a white collar crime agent and a cyber agent, um, during my career.
15:26So this was kind of one of the, certainly the biggest case I'd ever worked, but certainly one that had the most, you know,
15:33involvement in damage and loss of life and that stuff.
15:35So it, it impacted me so differently than, uh, than most of my other cases, which were, I had some other fairly large cases, important cases, but nothing like that.
15:45And then I happened to be in New York, uh, assigned to New York, but not in New York itself for 9-11.
15:50And so I was in and around that happening too.
15:53And standing at the base of the, the Oklahoma city building a few days after the bombing and then standing at the foot of the world trade center, you know, a few days after the planes hit it, um, kind of like great, greatly impacted.
16:06And my thinking about how I wanted to go forward in my career and what I thought the Bureau needed to, you know, needed to change to be able to do.
16:13And basically the Bureau is a great investigative organization, but at that point I thought maybe we needed to be better about trying to find stuff if we could in advance and prevent it rather than have this kind of destruction and death happen.
16:26And, and, and be able to catch the people after, but it really doesn't, after it doesn't, you know, it doesn't do anybody any good really in that sense.
16:32And it's nice to know who did it, but it doesn't help the people.
16:34So, so it was a, it was a major, like right in the heart of my career.
16:38It was a, it was a very, uh, huge event that shaped, you know, shaped me going forward and that kind of thing.
16:45Yeah.
16:45Wow.
16:45Well, thank you so much for serving.
16:47You know what I mean?
16:48Uh, people don't realize how hard it is and how much you take home with you.
16:54You know what I mean?
16:56It is difficult.
16:58My father was a police officer.
17:00I wasn't very close to him because my mom raised me, but he used to tell me how things haunted him at night.
17:07No, I can believe that.
17:07And I believe the ones, the people that were down there in Oklahoma city itself that were, they were trying to get through the rubble and get to the people that, uh, were still alive and tried to, you know, save as many of them as they could.
17:18Uh, that experience is even something that I don't think I can even fathom how they felt and how this impacted them.
17:25So, I mean, I felt such a sense of urgency, but it was, uh, it was knowing the fact that it had happened and knowing that the people deserved, you know, the justice, uh, but it certainly wasn't dealing with anything like that.
17:38Mine was basically, like I said, I was away from it, but I just, I knew the weight of what was going on.
17:42I knew that that was important.
17:44And so, um, yeah, I didn't have quite that kind of a thing where I had to, you know, thinking about, you know, having to dig through the rubble and everything.
17:52Yeah.
17:53Wow.
17:53Well, I, I mean, I appreciate this.
17:55I appreciate the history that you've written down.
17:58I appreciate that you have, you know, you've gone on TV and that you're talking about it.
18:03Like the, the one thing that we should never do is suppress history because then it continually repeats itself.
18:08We need to remember what things.
18:10So definitely.
18:11Is there anything that we missed today?
18:13Any question that you would like to ask or ask me or ask your listeners to do, or even to say something about this book and how it might help other people to get through that time?
18:25I think if people look at this book, it is, it is a, uh, it is a part of the puzzle that has never really been known before.
18:36Uh, the, there's been a number of books written about this and about the event and about, you know, Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols and that kind of thing.
18:44And, but the things that, uh, where we advanced from the bombing happened on, you know, Wednesday morning, uh, just after nine until having, you know, both of the primary subjects in custody and knowing the third subject that would eventually plead guilty by Saturday night, how we got in those 80 hours, how we got there.
19:04And what was the process that allowed us to, to respond so quickly and how everything fell into place and how there was a great deal of, you know, luck or some kind of maybe intervention or something that allowed it all to happen.
19:16Because there was a number of things that could have happened just very minutely different that, uh, that maybe we wouldn't have had them.
19:23And maybe we'd still be looking for them today.
19:25Who knows?
19:25But I think if you're, if you're interested in that particular event and, you know, reading about it and seeing what happened, this is just like a piece that's toward the start of that whole story that kind of says, okay, this is, this happened.
19:39And here's how we got to the point where we had them in custody and then we're able to, to work from there.
19:42So if there is a good true crime aspect to it and how we did the investigation and how it was conducted and then how it fits in the whole puzzle of this happened to the point where they were both convicted.
19:53So, um, if people are looking to kind of fill in that gap, uh, I think this book will, will certainly do it for them.
20:00And it might also give people an idea that this is what, uh, as a, as a agent or as an investigator, maybe even a detective or anybody else, uh, you never know when you go to work in the morning, what kind of case you're going to get and what that's where that's going to take you and how you can be prepared to be able to, uh, to, you know, work, whatever comes to you.
20:21And, uh, you know, so maybe in the sense that maybe people would be interested, geez, I wonder what being like an agent would be like, or being like an investigator would be like, this kind of gives you that idea of that, you know, at least in my job being a white collar agent, you know, most of the work is, you know, I'm not going to say it's boredom and TDM, but you're going through records and you're, you're doing spreadsheets and you're putting stuff together.
20:42You're trying to, you know, track financial trails and that can be very, you know, kind of mundane work.
20:48And then all of a sudden you get a call that, Hey, there's been a bank robbery and you have to go respond or you, there's been a kidnap and you have to go respond, or there's been a bombing like this.
20:57You have to go respond and how do you have to switch gears and, and everything like that.
21:01And how that, you know, makes it, it gives you a very wide perspective of the whole, you know, the criminal investigative, you know, arena.
21:09And if somebody thinks, Hey, I might want to be an investigator, there might be something in here for them.
21:12If they read it, they think that, Oh, well, here's how I have a good chance of maybe becoming that type of a, you know, person or that get that type of a role for a job.
21:21Or, you know, this is how these things shake out and if I see something else on TV, I'll kind of understand a little bit, you know, this is the process or that kind of thing.
21:29So again, it's more of a, it's more of a chronological story of what happened.
21:34And it, you know, it, it's probably as much as a reference materials, it is something you just pick up for enjoyment, but it does fill the gap.
21:41And if somebody is interested in that, I think, I think they'll enjoy it.
21:45I think so too.
21:47And history, you got to know your history.
21:49You got to know what happened.
21:50And for the most part, I didn't, I had no idea that this, like you said, this is one of those things that no one ever really said.
21:57This is the other part of it.
21:59And if you're really, truly interested in the other part and you want the full, the full story, then you need to go ahead and check this book out.
22:06It is called Under 80 Hours, an untold true crime story.
22:10And it's by Mr. Scott Crabtree.
22:12Thank you so much for joining me today.
22:15Wow.
22:15I appreciate you.
22:16I'm glad you caught that guy.
22:19I am too.
22:20They needed it.
22:22And everything seemed to work out like it was supposed to to make it happen.
22:26So we'll certainly take that because it doesn't always happen that way.
22:30Well, I'm glad it did because no one should be doing stuff like that.
22:35That is just, it's evil.
22:38It's definitely evil.
22:38It is pure evil.
22:40Pure.
22:40Thank you so much, Mr. Crabtree.
22:42Thank you guys so much for tuning in.
22:44We're going to have that book link in the description box wherever you may be watching so that it'll be easy for you guys to go ahead and get it.
22:50Remember, history should never be repeated.
22:52But if you forget it, you're doomed to do so.
22:55So please go ahead and grab that book today if that's something that you're interested in.
22:59And I want to thank you guys so much for tuning in.
23:01Don't forget to dare to be different.
23:02Mr. Crabtree, again, thank you so much.
23:04I appreciate it.
23:06Sure.
23:06Thank you very much again.
23:08Have a good rest of the day.
23:09Yep.
23:10Bye, guys.
23:11Bye.
23:11Bye.
23:11My gosh.
23:16So if you guys have ever heard of the bombings, so these bombings here, I'm going to go ahead and put this out front.
23:25But the book is called Under 80 Hours, An Untold True Crime Story.
23:30At 9.02 a.m. on April 19, 1995, a massive explosion rocked downtown Oklahoma City, shearing off the front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building and killing 168 people, including 19 children in the building's daycare center.
23:50The blast sent shockwaves across the country, both literally and figuratively in the chaos that followed investigative shifts through the rubble, finding a twisted fragment of a Ryder rental truck.
24:07Using it as a starting point, the FBI identified and arrested the individuals who planned to and executed this heinous crime in less than four days.
24:20I have one of the FBI agents right here, Mr. R. Scott Crabtree, that is going to be here today to talk about how they were able to get this gentleman, arrest him, and someone else apparently.
24:37in under 80 hours. Enjoy the show.
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