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00:00Welcome to Jesse Waters Prime Time tonight.
00:03They begged me, they said, but senor, por favor, please give illegal aliens to health
00:09care.
00:10I said, we're not going to do it.
00:11We're never going to do it.
00:12It's not going to happen.
00:13Democrats going loco over Trump 2.0.
00:17We are living in the worst crisis in America, literally, since the Civil War.
00:22We got a Trump supporter.
00:23We got a Trump supporter right here.
00:25Aww.
00:26Aww.
00:27He's putting it on the ground and he's making it worse.
00:30Portland arresting conservative reporters.
00:33What a big mistake.
00:35People knew that something out here stunk and that it was corrupt.
00:39It's no longer a conspiracy theory.
00:42I was f***ed up.
00:44I mean, I hit rock bottom.
00:46P. Diddy learns his fate.
00:49Plus.
00:50He says you want to be taken to D-Max.
00:57Hakeem's party was a dud, so AOC threw her own fiesta at Casa de Schumer.
01:05All right, guys, so the government is shut down, which means that capital tours are closed.
01:11But we had a bus of kids from the Bronx and schools that came all the way down here for
01:16a tour.
01:17Obviously, no one knew the government was shut down, so I'm giving them a tour.
01:21Say hi, everybody.
01:22Hi.
01:23Hi.
01:24Chuck takes one day off for Yom Kippur and AOC's in the Senate giving a tour.
01:29Or was she just scoping out her new office?
01:32If Schumer wants to keep his digs, he's going to have to keep the government shut down.
01:37Chuck's getting squeezed in between two buns like a hot dog.
01:40AOC inciting far left activists to flood the phone banks, pressuring leadership to hold
01:46the line.
01:48Schumer's fighting a two-front war against MAGA and Marxists.
01:52New York is probably going to elect a Marxist for mayor.
01:57He's terrified by that development.
01:58Chuck Schumer is a far left progressive politician, but he's not far enough left for this base.
02:04Sources are saying Schumer and the sombrero aren't being taken seriously by anyone in Washington.
02:10Schumer and Jeffries, never in my career have I seen two leaders so dismissed, not just by
02:16the media, which normally loves Democrats, but privately by Democratic members of the
02:20House and Senate.
02:21They're really just, people are just rolling their eyes and throwing their hands up and
02:26saying, you know, there's nothing we can do.
02:28We're not going to depose them now, but they are not leading us.
02:32Hips and Chuck are just trying to keep their jobs.
02:35They don't want to shut the government down, but they have to because the base is itching
02:39for a fight and they have these two on a leash.
02:42So Hakeem's begging for another meeting with Trump.
02:46In fact, Donald Trump is in the presidential witness protection program.
02:50No one can find them when it comes to the government shutdown issue because he knows he's responsible
02:56for having caused it.
02:58Trump's ready to reopen, but he doesn't have to prove anything to his base.
03:03He's not on TV all day looking like a desperate puppet because behind the scenes he just reportedly
03:09got Hamas to end the war.
03:12Trump's not caving and giving free health care to illegal aliens.
03:16The White House says for every day, Democrats keep the government shut down.
03:19The sombrero gets 10 times bigger.
03:23Hakeem spent more time fighting over a hat than he did fighting to keep the government open.
03:28And Hakeem's not the only one wearing a sombrero.
03:32Trump dropped this one just before midnight.
03:34Hola, mi fellow Americanos y bienvenidos al Sierre de Schumer.
03:41That means welcome to the Schumer shutdown.
03:44We call it the Schumer siesta, right?
03:47It's the Schumer siesta.
03:49He put the government on siesta, crying Chuck and El Hakeemo Jefe Jeffries.
03:55We used to call them dollar store Obama.
03:59Why is hip so sensitive about a hat?
04:01He wore a yarmulke and Bill Clinton rocked a sombrero at a Labor Day picnic with the Mexican
04:07dance team.
04:08He considered it an honor.
04:10All wore hats.
04:17Democrats didn't find that offensive, but Barry did admit it wasn't a good look.
04:37He said, the general rule, you don't put stuff on your head if you're president.
04:42You never look good wearing something on your head.
04:45Although Biden didn't look bad with a Trump hat, plus it drove Kamala crazy.
04:51Whether it's a red hat or a sombrero, now Hispanics are begging him to throw a fiesta.
04:56Is the president open to letting the Hispanics, who overwhelmingly voted for him, have their
05:03own siesta fiesta in the White House lawn, opposed to the fancy, you know, we don't need
05:09fancy smancy, right?
05:10You can give us the backyard and we'll fill it all in and have in our own fiesta.
05:15The White House says they'll lend them the big beautiful ballroom if it's ready by Cinco
05:19de Mayo.
05:20Trump's throwing siesta fiestas.
05:22Meanwhile, Democrats can't get anyone to show up to theirs.
05:26There's nothing fun about old men screaming about the Civil War.
05:29We are living in an unprecedentedly dangerous moment.
05:35Maybe the worst crisis in America, literally, since the Civil War.
05:40Civil War, race cards, Obamacare.
05:42That old Nancy Pelosi playbook isn't gonna fly against Trump 2.0.
05:47Maybe that worked once, but now it just looks like it's for show.
05:52People want to see us fighting.
05:54They want to see us have a backbone.
05:56They want to know how we're different from Donald Trump.
05:58And, you know, when we don't fight hard, especially when the entire enterprise of democracy is at
06:04risk, then we don't seem sincere when we tell people that there might not be a free and fair
06:09election in 2026.
06:10Murphy just admitted he's trying to fool his own base.
06:14He's trying to convince his base he's not a phony.
06:17So they'll buy his lies.
06:19Men always have to maintain control.
06:22And who looks like they're in control?
06:25Trump saying no and then throwing around sombreros.
06:29And Democrats are screaming, offended, defensive.
06:33Trump's ready to reopen the government whenever Democrats want.
06:37But in the meantime, he's having fun.
06:39If someone tries to email a bureaucrat right now at the Department of Education, they get
06:44a message that says, sorry, Democrats are shutting down the government.
06:48The email reminds those who reach out to the Department of Education employees that we cannot
06:54respond because Senate Democrats are refusing to vote for a clean CR and fund the government,
06:59adding where's the line.
07:01Out of office emails.
07:03And while the government is shut down, the president's agenda keeps rolling.
07:07The Democrats are playing right into his hand.
07:10We are $37 trillion in debt and the federal government is currently shut down.
07:15There is no more money coming into the federal government's coffers.
07:18Democrats have given this administration an unenviable choice to have to take a look at
07:25the balance sheet and identify where these cuts and layoffs can be made.
07:29While the administration reduces the size of government because Democrats are holding
07:32out for illegal alien healthcare, AOC has kind of changed the definition of an illegal alien.
07:39Republicans love to dangle the shiny object that says, but what if someone not like you gets it?
07:48An illegal alien is just someone not like you.
07:52Schumer won't even have a discussion about what he's trying to pull.
07:56He just goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
07:59Some of that obviously goes to people who don't have insurance, including undocumented immigrants.
08:04They lied about Biden's brain, the laptop, the lab leak and Russia, Russia, Russia.
08:17No one believes anything they say anymore.
08:20We've already explained how it all works, but just use common sense.
08:24There's 20 million illegals in the country when they get sick, have babies, get surgery.
08:30You think they're walking into medical facilities paying cash?
08:3420 million illegals in this country are just not going to the doctor.
08:38They're getting sick and injured and they don't have a lot of money to begin with.
08:42So who's taking care of them?
08:45Of course, they're getting free health care.
08:48Blue states have whole programs that advertise free health care for illegals that the feds fund.
08:55We were spending money on sex changes for people living in other countries.
09:01You don't think we're giving illegal aliens health care in this country?
09:05The last time Democrats had a primary, they all raised their hands for health care for illegals.
09:10All of them.
09:11It's not about you.
09:13Never was.
09:14It's about their own jobs and doing whatever they can to keep their power.
09:19This is the Schumer shutdown.
09:21They want to hurt you so that they can keep their seats.
09:25They're admitting it.
09:26Listen.
09:27Plenty of folks on the left who say, you know what?
09:32If Republicans have done this and they control all branches of the government, we should allow the American people to feel the pain of what government of what Republican policies are.
09:44I mean, you can't keep if you want to touch the stove at some point, you got to let them touch the stove.
09:49Bill Clinton wanted to feel your pain.
09:51Schumer wants you to feel pain.
09:54How times have changed.
09:57Former Speaker of the House came back.
09:59All right.
10:00So we got sombrero gate.
10:02We got hot dog gate.
10:04What's left for the week?
10:07It's just purely Schumer with no political will.
10:12He's scared.
10:13The one point you didn't bring up is Schumer voted 13 times in the last couple of years for a clean continuing resolution of CR.
10:22Why now to say no?
10:25Because AOC is touring his office.
10:29Hakeem, no one knows who he is.
10:31They know the sombrero more than they know Hakeem.
10:33It's the best thing that's ever happened to him.
10:35He should be thanking Trump for that hat because now everybody's like Hakeem Jeffries.
10:40What's his?
10:41Oh, he's he's the minority leader.
10:43Oh, got it.
10:44Unfortunately, though, everybody knows who Chuck Schumer is and they don't like him.
10:50No, Chuck Schumer is so unpopular.
10:55Remember when he voted for the CR last time?
10:57It was just earlier this year.
10:59He had a book come out.
11:01He couldn't even go on a book tour because he would get protested.
11:05This is the biggest sign of the weakest leadership.
11:08Look, if the Democrats believed Hakeem was a good leader, Nancy Pelosi would retire instead of staying around.
11:15They are the biggest symbol of lack of leadership.
11:19That's why you see the rise of AOC.
11:21That's why you see the rise of Vandani.
11:23They are trying to become new leaders because they are showing none and they know they can't win this fight because they don't even know what they're fighting for.
11:31They can't even tell you what they want to achieve.
11:36And let's be honest, when they say the government's controlled by Republicans, it takes 60 votes in the Senate.
11:43Some Democrats have voted for it, but the leader needs to lead and vote for it to keep government open.
11:50It's clear as day.
11:51This is a Schumer shutdown.
11:53So what's the play for AOC?
11:55She's leapfrogged the house.
11:57She's in the Senate.
11:58She's hanging with burn dogs.
12:00She's touring Chuck's office when he's not around.
12:03What's her end game here?
12:05She loves this because she, she has Schumer so scared.
12:10He shuts down.
12:11Then she makes him look inept that he's not at the office.
12:14She's not running for Schumer seat.
12:16She's running to be president.
12:18She won't win it, but she could become very strong in the Democratic party.
12:22Maybe if they've ever won, she could be in the, be in the cabinet, but she is literally running because she will embrace all those Bernie Sanders leaders, voters, and then try to get new ones.
12:34But she has pretty much destroyed.
12:36Now the person who's playing this a hundred percent right is president Trump.
12:39He, he is not letting this get under his skin.
12:42What's he doing?
12:43Trying to have peace in the Middle East, bringing hostages home, getting more investment in America, securing our borders.
12:51And they don't know what to do.
12:52They take the bait every time trying to make our streets safer.
12:55And what do Democrats fight for?
12:57To shut the government down and to protect the criminals inside these cities that go after these American people.
13:04Yeah.
13:05So you don't want to look panicked and the people who look panicked are Chuck, Bernie, Warren, Hakeem.
13:14They're out there on TV 24 seven, having a conniption fit.
13:18Trump's playing it cool.
13:19He's sitting back.
13:20He's just saying, no, just saying no, no is the most powerful word in the dictionary.
13:25Well, you know what?
13:28Republicans have done their job.
13:29Credit to Speaker Johnson and the Republicans in the house.
13:32They passed the continuing resolution, just like all the Democrats have voted for 13 times.
13:38Thune has done an excellent job in the Senate.
13:41He's put it up for votes time and again.
13:43You know what?
13:44President Trump, every day he wakes up with the exact same mission.
13:46What can I do to make America safer and stronger and the world?
13:50And he's just going to keep doing his job instead of running to the press, crying about a sombrero.
13:55He's talking about substance.
13:57All right.
13:58Well, so far, so good.
13:59Shut down.
14:00What day three, four?
14:01Who knows?
14:02We'll see you on Monday.
14:03Came back.
14:04Have a good one.
14:05Let's bring in White House counselor for trade and manufacturing, Peter Navarro.
14:10So it looks like, Peter, that they're taking an ax to some of these bloated green programs, these Democrat programs that they've always wanted.
14:21And there's nothing the left can do about that.
14:23It's almost like a gift.
14:26This is a beautiful thing, Jesse.
14:28I mean, let's be clear.
14:29The Democrats think they can somehow run.
14:32We're taking away health care for America when really it's all about taking away health care for illegal aliens.
14:37People should remember that the Trump tax cuts we just passed had nice provisions in there.
14:44First of all, it made clear that Medicaid, Medicare, and Obamacare were only for American citizens and legal residents in this country.
14:52That's about $100 billion we saved taxpayers.
14:56There was a scam that the governor of California, Newscombe, was running that was costing another $35 billion that the Trump tax cuts took away.
15:06There was another scam on emergency rooms.
15:08Illegals can still get emergency room care, but they can't.
15:12The states can't rob the federal government while they're doing it.
15:15And we're in a situation now where clearly the Democrats are pushing for that.
15:23It's insane.
15:24And they're trapped.
15:25Jesse, they're trapped by their own politics, right?
15:27Every single moderate Democrat is in fear for their life because of being primaried by some wacko to the left of them.
15:35And that's what's driving this whole thing.
15:38But Chuck Schumer is the poacher child for it.
15:41I'm still laughing.
15:42Jesse, you had me cracking up when you played that little clip of Schumer saying,
15:46there wasn't $1 spent for illegal airlines by the federal government.
15:50I mean, look, what planet is that guy living on?
15:54So I think I like our chances on this because the American people see right through this.
16:01Wall Street's quite happy.
16:03They're not freaked out, I think, because they realize that President Trump has the strong hand here.
16:10Plus, it's a hand in favor of fiscal responsibility, which the bond market really likes.
16:16It kind of calms inflation down because we don't have to spend as much money like floating bonds.
16:22So this is going to be an interesting fight.
16:26But we like where we stand now in terms of our posture and negotiating posture.
16:32All right, Peter Navarro.
16:34And everybody check out Peter Navarro's new book.
16:37It's hot off the presses and it makes great weekend reading material.
16:42Congratulations on all your success.
16:44Peter Navarro, thanks so much for joining.
16:45Take care, Jason.
16:47Portland arresting conservative.
16:52The Ice Queens in Chicago.
16:54Kristi Noem at the quarters of the mostly peaceful protesters that they've been bombarding.
17:00Noem hit the roof to scope out the sniper's nest.
17:03The ice picketers were getting rough and rowdy.
17:07Get back!
17:08Get back!
17:09Get back!
17:10Get back!
17:11Get back!
17:12Get back!
17:13Get back!
17:14Get back!
17:15Get back!
17:16Get back!
17:17Get back!
17:18Get back!
17:19Ouch.
17:20You mess with ice, you get the cuffs.
17:23You got a dozen arrests over here.
17:25They're yelling at you.
17:26What's your message to the overall leftists who want to be violent in America today?
17:30You know, leave.
17:31Leave this country.
17:32We don't want you.
17:33Go away.
17:34Or we'll put you in jail.
17:37If you thought the street crew was angry, wait until you see who's inside.
17:41A couple of detained hombres stared down Noem from their cell.
17:45Sorry, boys.
17:46Kristi doesn't have any marks for you.
17:48Just a one-way ticket to Brazil.
17:50Careful, if you keep mean mugging her, you might end up in Uganda.
17:54Then Noem went to City Hall.
17:56They weren't happy either.
17:58Can I allow you?
17:59Do you use your restroom?
18:00No, you cannot.
18:01We can?
18:02Okay.
18:03Please don't go.
18:04Okay.
18:05All right.
18:07Interesting.
18:09That's why Governor Pritzker says it's cooperation in keeping people safe.
18:13There's even less cooperation in Portland.
18:15They're letting Antifa go loco.
18:17So Trump stepped in.
18:19What are you doing?
18:20What the ****?
18:22Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
18:23We're going to get them.
18:24We're going to get them.
18:25Oh, get them, get them.
18:26Yeah!
18:27Oh ****!
18:28Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
18:29Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
18:34Hold up.
18:35Hold, hold.
18:36Shut it.
18:37Get up.
18:39Get up.
18:40Get it.
18:42Get it.
18:43Get it.
18:44Get it.
18:45Get it.
18:46Get it.
18:47Portland's the wild, wild west.
18:55And for some reason, the police and politicians won't stop it.
19:02Portland PD just watched that fight happen.
19:29Feds had to step in and make arrests.
19:31They're burning flags in Portland.
19:33Are the cops putting out the fires?
19:35No, journalists are.
19:37We got a Trump supporter.
19:42We got a Trump supporter right here.
19:44Oh, he's putting it on the ground and he's making it worse and now he's standing on it.
19:55That was Nick Sorter.
19:56He's been on the ground covering Antifa.
19:58They don't like cameras, so they just jumped them.
20:04I'm walking down the street.
20:10Get out of here.
20:12Get out of here.
20:14Get out of here.
20:16Get out of here.
20:22Get out of here.
20:27Get out of here.
20:32arrested, but Sorter was. So all of a sudden, you know, I'm being jumped by Antifa thugs.
20:40I get back up, I stumble away and go back toward cops where I think, you know, at least, all right,
20:45well, maybe that'll be a safer place for me to go. Never suspected that I was going to be the
20:50target of the arrest that they were coming in to make. Portland politicians are giving Antifa tips,
20:56saying the riots are mostly peaceful. The police chief says, eh, it's just one block.
21:01And then they arrest a journalist. What's going on here?
21:09People knew that something out here stunk and that it was corrupt and that the police are,
21:14they take the side of the violent criminals that are here every single day,
21:17assaulting ICE officers, assaulting journalists. And then a reporter comes and, you know, tries to
21:23embed deep within the chaos that's going in out here. And he's the one that gets arrested.
21:29They just proved the point that all of us have been saying. It's no longer a conspiracy theory.
21:33Portland PD is officially under investigation.
21:37The Department of Justice spoke with that journalist this morning and they will be launching
21:41a full investigation into his arrest. I just spoke with the president about this and he has directed
21:46his team here at the White House to begin reviewing aid that can potentially be cut in Portland.
21:51We will not fund states that allow anarchy. Independent journalist David Medina is here.
21:57All right. So David, you've been on the ground in Portland a little bit.
22:01Have you noticed that Portland Police Department kind of protecting Antifa?
22:07Yeah, Jesse, thanks for having me. That's exactly what's going on here. And
22:11I suspect that the arrest of Nick Sorter was a targeted arrest. If you hear his story,
22:16they had him in the squad car. Even the police officers didn't know why they were arresting him.
22:20This was a targeted arrest from what I believe being on the ground here in Portland from higher
22:24ups that the same people that tie the Portland police's hands that refuse to let them do their
22:29job and help ICE and help the federal agents. It's corrupt here, Jesse. It's it's corrupt.
22:34Everything is controlled by the Democrats here in Oregon and you're seeing the results of it.
22:38You know, I'm getting suspicious because we just had Katie Davis court on who was
22:42assaulted in the face and they did nothing about it. And then you have another journalist who's
22:48covering this mayhem. He's arrested. It seems like they're more mad at the media for showcasing
22:55the violence than the people causing the violence. Is that true? Yeah, that's absolutely correct.
23:01You know, Katie Davis court's a good friend of mine and I was there when she got assaulted right after
23:05it happened and I went up to her and Portland police, they refused to arrest the person that
23:09assaulted her. The Antifa thug that assaulted her. These people are violent and they don't care about
23:14human life. They don't care about humanity. These are the same people that were celebrating the death
23:17of Charlie Kirk, Jesse. And also, you know, you talk about Chief Bob Day. This guy runs a consulting
23:23firm. He's out there being a mouthpiece for these Democrat failed far left leaders here in Oregon.
23:29He's out there on CNN. It is it is crazy here. And then you have Nick Sorter getting arrested.
23:34This was this is sending a message to people like us who want to cover the story. As you saw
23:38L.A. Times try to approach me and make me the story the other night. All of all the legacy media
23:43and these these fake news reporters, they're trying to set us all up so that to get rid of us,
23:48send us a message so that they can write the narrative here in Portland.
23:51So Katie mentioned that it's almost like chop or Chaz that they've kind of allowed a couple blocks to
23:58be completely taken over by Antifa and they just use kid gloves with them. Has that been your experience?
24:04Yes. So I have a lot of Jesse, a lot of Portland police officers who follow me,
24:09a lot of Portland police officers who are patriots, who love what we do, who love what you do.
24:13And they tell me that a lot of the reason why they can't handle these people is because they're
24:18told not to by higher ups. I believe that this goes above Chief Day. I believe that there is being
24:23a there's a directive being sent to the Portland police to stand down to let these radicals have
24:28their way, Jesse, because they control the city, this small group of radicals. I know a lot of
24:32moderate Democrats in Portland who are tired of them. They're tired of this lawlessness.
24:36They're tired of them making their party look bad. And these anarchists who I've talked to before,
24:40Joe Biden's not even radical enough for them. They don't even like the Democrat party. They
24:44want total chaos. They want Portland to burn. They want the whole system blown up. It's disgusting.
24:48Right. So if you were to ask the governor of of Oregon, who's the bad guy? Is it Antifa or ice?
24:55She would say ice. And and Kennedy on the five today confirmed what your thesis is, is that
25:02there has been a directive from high up to change the rules of engagement on the ground with the
25:07Portland Police Department. And you're seeing the results of this. And to me, that tells me they're
25:12using these politicians Antifa as political foot soldiers against ice. Exactly right, Jesse,
25:21you hit it right on the head. I've been here and I'm a lifelong Oregonian. Portland's my city. I
25:25went to college here. I've seen this whole thing. I've seen I've sat in the city council meetings.
25:29I've seen chief day. I've seen these city counselors. I mean, Angelina Murillo city
25:34counselor for Portland is basically Antifa. She is a communist. She she she enables this stuff.
25:39She just made a video the other day instructing Antifa on how to dodge getting arrested, how to dodge
25:45facial recognition. It is corrupt here. But, you know, I'm grateful for people like you and I'm
25:50grateful for people like Benny Johnson and my friend Katie Davis Court and Nick Sorter who are
25:54fighting back against this evil. We're not going to stop out here. And there's a lot of God fearing
25:57patriots out here in Oregon. Well, we're grateful for you, Medina. Keep up the great work and stay
26:02safe. I know it's a gnarly scene out there, but you're one of the only ones covering it and bringing
26:06it nationally because without you guys, we'd have no clue. Have a great night. Thank you, Jesse.
26:12Kavanaugh's trans assassin gets a slap on the wrist from a Biden judge.
26:25MSNBC's Joe Scarborough confronted on viral best Biden ever clip. MSNBC host maintained his assessment
26:34based on personal interactions despite pushback from Mark Halperin. MSNBC's Joe Scarborough was
26:42confronted with a viral clip of him deeming former president Joe Biden in the best Biden ever in
26:49March 2024 on Tuesday, standing by his assessment of the former president citing his personal
26:54interactions with him. Speaking to Mark Halperin during his show, Next Up with Mark Halperin,
27:01Scarborough watched the clip of himself where he argued that the former president was far beyond
27:07cognate. I've said for years now, but he's cognate. But I undersold it when I said he was cognate.
27:15He's far beyond cognate. In fact, I think he's better than he's ever been. Intellectually,
27:21analytically, because he's been around for 50 years, Scarborough said during a March 2024
27:26Morning Joe broadcast. Start your tape right now because I'm about to tell you the truth.
27:31And F you if you can't handle the truth. This version of Biden intellectually,
27:36analytically is the best Biden ever. After noting that Biden had good days and bad days,
27:42Halperin asked Scarborough, looking back at that, do you say, well, it was misleading to say best
27:48Biden ever without caveating it and saying except on the days when he's not the best Biden ever?
27:54Scarborough insisted he never saw the bad days personally. Earlier in the conversation,
28:00Scarborough detained multiple meetings he had with. I'm sorry, one more time. I made a mistake.
28:08Earlier, right? Yeah.
28:11Scarborough insisted he never saw the bad days personally. Earlier in the conversation,
28:16Scarborough detailed multiple meetings he had with Joe Biden, during which the MSNBC host argued that Biden
28:24had a better analysis of the situation related to Ukraine and Russia that he had heard from most people.
28:31Halperin pushed back and told Scarborough, well, you did. You did because you saw him address a dead
28:37congresswoman and you saw him in South Carolina. Halperin argued he could show Scarborough several
28:45clips of days when the former president was not the best Biden ever. And Scarborough pivoted the
28:50conversation to Trump. Scarborough argued he stumbled and bumbled around Mark. I mean, yeah, he certainly
28:58did. Donald Trump did. Other politicians did. And it's actually the same case as a lot of times when
29:04I've gone in and talked to Donald Trump. We go on to Donald Trump and I've heard the media narrative
29:09around Donald Trump. And certainly I've been very critical of Trump. And when I leave, I have a better
29:15understanding, just like Jeffrey Goldberg did a couple of days ago, a better understanding of where
29:21Donald Trump is mentally. If Donald Trump is losing it, like people have said through the years or not.
29:28And so again, am I going to look at a clip that's gone viral and pay more attention to that than two
29:35and a half, three hours I had with a guy one on one going around the world? No, I'm just not going to,
29:42the MSNBC host said. Are some of the clips bad? Yeah, they certainly are bad. Put into proper context,
29:49I'm just not going to freak out and melt down one on one or two clips here and there. The morning Joe
29:56host added. And again, he bumbled around and he stumbled around, but he asked for quite some time.
30:02That didn't seem to me to get in the way of Joe Biden being able to analyse the most important issues.
30:08Scarborough went after former special counsel Robert Hur in February 2024 for his report on the former
30:14president related to the classified document probe that showed Biden struggling with key memories,
30:20including when his son Buu died, when he left the vice presidency and why he was in possession of
30:25classified documents he shouldn't have had. I'm just saying this guy say such random,
30:32hmm, Scarborough said at the time, demanding that Hur apologise for his report.
30:38Does he hope he gets a judgeship? I think he does. I think he hopes he gets a judgeship even if Donald
30:44Trump gets elected again, because he's trying out, because he humiliated himself with that display,
30:50Scarborough added. New audio of Hur Biden interview was released on Friday and CNN's Abby
30:56Phillips suggested her undersold the extent of Biden's lapses during the interview.
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