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00:00Start the clock.
00:30Start the clock.
00:39How you doing?
00:40Thank you very much.
00:43Thank you, people.
00:44How are you?
00:47Thank you very much.
00:50So great to see you.
00:58Right back at you.
01:01I appreciate you being in a good mood,
01:04because you know you're going to have to live with the government
01:06without the government for a while.
01:08Why are we laughing at that?
01:12I feel like we do this every fucking year, this story.
01:16Government shut down.
01:17Government shut down.
01:18And Trump is devastated about it.
01:20You know how much he loves the government.
01:23He said, next you're going to tell me Wendy's is all out of salad.
01:27Shit.
01:28Government's closed.
01:29I'm going to have to play more golf.
01:30But luckily, he's negotiating calmly and in good faith.
01:44I'm joking, of course.
01:46He said today, tweeted out that the Democrats are the party of hate, evil, and Satan.
01:54It's good faith.
01:56Which is so ridiculous.
01:57If they ran Satan, they would have won Florida.
02:00I kid Florida.
02:01I love Florida.
02:03But no, Trump knows how to negotiate this.
02:08We're going to get over this.
02:09You know how you do it?
02:10You get everybody in a room, preferably a ballroom.
02:13And you say, nobody's leaving here until you check out these cherubs.
02:18These, these not, because it is, oh, cherubs.
02:28This is a manly administration.
02:29I don't know if you saw the other big thing that happened in Washington this week.
02:33Our defense secretary, Pete Hegseth.
02:35He called in from all over the world, the 800 highest ranking service people we have,
02:45the generals and the admirals from all over the world.
02:47Did you see that room?
02:48Oh, my God.
02:49There was more crew cuts than in a lesbian bar.
02:52Wow.
02:53But, um, because that is the thing you want to do most.
03:03You want to get your most critical people in the command structure all gathered in one room.
03:09Hopefully with the doors locked from the outside.
03:13And then Pete gave them a Ted talk about how much he has had it with the military,
03:20which is too gay, too woke, too sloppy, too badly groomed, too obese.
03:24He's not wrong about that last one for sure.
03:30Well, no, no, these are facts.
03:32Almost 70% of the military, did you know this, is overweight.
03:37The song the Marines sing now is from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Triple X.
03:41Well, you know, come on.
03:48Uh, but Pete says that shit ends now.
03:52We are changing our motto from Semper Fi to no fat chicks.
03:56And, by the way, I love this.
04:01He included the generals in this.
04:03He's too many fat generals and admirals walking around the halls of the Pentagon.
04:06Are you kidding?
04:07This is supposed to be an exercise in morale building.
04:11Because nothing pumps you up like taking a 22-hour flight to be yelled at by a Fox News dry drunk about your love handles.
04:18And, yeah, I love this.
04:25And, you know, a few weeks ago they changed the name of the, you know, Defense Department to the Department of War.
04:31So that's how he started.
04:32He said, welcome.
04:33The War Department is now the Department of Defense.
04:38No, the other way around.
04:40The Department of Defense is now the Department of War, you fucking hippies.
04:45And he called them, he said, no more beardos.
04:55I'm not kidding.
04:56He used that word.
04:57I never heard that word.
04:58Apparently a combination of weirdo and beard.
05:00No more beardos.
05:03And they did his shaving Private Ryan hunk.
05:06It's funny.
05:08Half the speech was about a warrior ethos that we want and manly men.
05:13And the other half was grooming tips.
05:18Really.
05:21Because nothing says warrior ethos like what products do you use?
05:30So to recap, no gays, just buff hairless men.
05:42And no beards.
05:43That's when Lindsey Graham went, what?
05:45No beards?
05:46All right.
05:47We've had a great show.
05:49Dan Jones and Tom Friedman are here.
05:52But first up, oh, I've wanted him on for a long time.
05:55An Emmy award winning writer, actor, director and comedian with his forthcoming novel now.
06:00Ingram comes out November 11th.
06:02Louis C.K.
06:03How are you?
06:04Good to see you.
06:05All right.
06:06All right.
06:07I think I will let that standing ovation speak for itself.
06:08Sure.
06:10And get right.
06:11And get right to the book because, Louis, you're a novelist now.
06:17You've worn so many hats and now you're wearing the hat of a novelist.
06:20I just want to know why.
06:21You know, I looked at some of the stats about how much novels sell.
06:25Yeah.
06:26In a country of, I think, 340 million people, if they sell 10,000, it's like a hit.
06:30It's incredible.
06:31So you're doing it for the money.
06:32Yes, exactly.
06:33Yeah.
06:34Yeah.
06:35But really, why get into a dying art form like this?
06:37Well, I love fiction and I love writing.
06:40And I wanted to be a novelist when I was a kid.
06:42That's what I wanted.
06:43But in high school, I did a lot of drugs.
06:45And, uh, I just want to know why.
06:48And I want to know why.
06:50I just want to know why.
06:51You know, I looked at some of the stats about how much novels sell.
06:54Yeah.
06:55In a country of, I think, 340 million people, if they sell 10,000, it's like a hit.
06:58It's incredible.
06:59So you're doing it for the money.
07:00Yes, exactly.
07:01Yeah.
07:02And, uh, I kind of ran my brain dry.
07:07And so then I got into comedy and TV, which is a little easier than writing novels.
07:12But I think I regenerated more brain cells.
07:14I don't know what it is.
07:15But I got into it.
07:16I got into writing short stories a few years ago.
07:18And then this one just turned.
07:19It just kept going.
07:20I didn't expect it to be one.
07:22I didn't outline it or anything.
07:23It just kept coming.
07:24Well, I told you.
07:25I said it reminds me a lot, first of all, of Dickens.
07:28Oh, thanks.
07:29Carl Dickens.
07:30He was a novelist.
07:31The kids, the kids don't read.
07:33They don't want to make them read anything anyway.
07:34No.
07:35Yeah.
07:36And a great one.
07:37And also Mark Twain, a little bit.
07:38It's very Huckleberry Finney.
07:39I mean, what, I mean, it's so interesting because, well, I mean, why don't you tell basically
07:44what it is?
07:45It's the story of a boy in the Depression.
07:46Yeah.
07:47And it's the story of a boy in the Depression.
07:48Just give me the skinny of it.
07:50Yeah.
07:51So there's just this boy who's sitting on the porch outside his house.
07:54And there's like a pig sleeping next to him.
07:57And that's his life.
07:58Like he's never been to school.
08:00His parents have very little and they're struggling.
08:03And one day his father says, I'm going to sell the horse.
08:07And, you know, tells his mother to slop all the animals and, you know, to take care of
08:13stuff.
08:14And he never comes back.
08:15Him and his mother are kind of like starving.
08:17So his mother just tells him, you should go because I can't help you.
08:20So he's like nine and he just hits the road and he's never seen a highway.
08:24He's never been anywhere.
08:25So it's him discovering the world.
08:27And everything is through his first person eyes.
08:29Yeah.
08:30What reminded me of the Dickens thing.
08:31Yeah.
08:32Like he doesn't even know what pavement is.
08:33So he calls it like hard gray dirt.
08:35Right.
08:36And so I just took him.
08:38He was in my head and I just kind of dictated.
08:41Usually they say, write what you know.
08:44Yeah.
08:45This didn't seem like that.
08:46No.
08:47I'm just curious.
08:49It just was like, why?
08:51I didn't know what the book was when I got it.
08:53I was like, wow.
08:54Is this Louie's childhood?
08:55Well, I mean, I had my dad wasn't around, but my mom, my mom worked really hard and raised
09:01four kids.
09:02But you knew pavement.
09:03Sure.
09:04I knew pavement.
09:05Yeah.
09:06I knew it really well, actually.
09:07I used to eat gum off of pavement.
09:08I'm not even.
09:09I did.
09:10In the summer, it gets warm and you can get it.
09:12Get it out.
09:16But I grew up in a suburb of Boston and my mom was working all day.
09:21So I was alone a lot.
09:22I had sisters, but they're living their own lives.
09:24And I used to, being a boy can be really lonely, you know?
09:29Now, I had a great mother.
09:31So Ingram is like me without a mom, you know, in Texas, I guess.
09:36Sort of.
09:37I mean, you must have done so much research, though.
09:39Because, no?
09:40No, nothing.
09:41No.
09:42I just...
09:43Yeah.
09:44But like they were in an oil refinery at one point.
09:46Yes.
09:47It gets really deep into the details of an oil refinery.
09:50How did you know?
09:51I've never been on one.
09:52I have no idea.
09:53I've never read about one or watched a movie about one.
09:57I just imagined what, how they must do it and I made it up.
10:01Oh.
10:02Yeah.
10:03So, uh...
10:05And the other thing is because of Ingram's innocence,
10:11we're only seeing the way he saw it.
10:13Do you know what I mean?
10:14Right.
10:15I asked him to tell me what was going on.
10:16I never felt in control of this story.
10:18He just was telling me what he saw, you know?
10:20Yeah.
10:21And some of it gets really weird.
10:22He sees some things that I'm not sure what they were.
10:24So, I don't know.
10:25I mean, it's so moving because he just has this cycle of life
10:29where he keeps thinking it's gonna get better
10:31and then it's three steps forward, two steps back.
10:33Yeah.
10:34And he keeps trying to connect with people
10:35and they always seem to abandon him.
10:37He finally does make one friend, this character, Bart.
10:40Yeah.
10:41And then they're roommates at this, I guess, this oil refinery.
10:43Yeah.
10:44Tough life.
10:45Yes.
10:46And they're in the same small room.
10:47And I noticed you go into one...
10:49He kind of loses his friend because one night,
10:52Ingram discovers masturbation.
10:54That's right.
10:55And kind of pays a high price for that.
10:58Yeah.
10:59Where do you get your ideas?
11:09Well, like you said, write what you know.
11:14That was good, Bill.
11:15That was really good.
11:16I read the book carefully.
11:17Nice job.
11:18I really loved it.
11:19Yeah.
11:20So, you're going to Saudi Arabia.
11:21I am.
11:22You're part of this big festival over there.
11:23Yes.
11:24Yes.
11:25Yes.
11:26Yes.
11:27I mean, what do you think about the fact that we have a schism here in the comedy community?
11:40Now, I'm going to throw my cards on the table here.
11:43Sure.
11:44I have mixed feelings about this, but I basically think it's a great idea to go anywhere like that.
11:51Mm-hmm.
11:52Because purists bug me because they think change has to happen overnight.
11:56Mm-hmm.
11:57Change doesn't ever happen overnight.
11:58No.
11:59There are restrictions on what you can say because this is the first time.
12:02Yeah.
12:03But somebody has to go the first time and do your act.
12:05You're not allowed to talk about religion or the royals.
12:08Yeah.
12:09Well, the royals is the government and religion.
12:11Without that, I would have no act.
12:12Right.
12:13Right.
12:14Yeah.
12:15I still think the people who are doing it are brave and apparently the ones over there are
12:20enjoying it.
12:21Yes.
12:22What I'm talking about, the comedians that have been there, and they've been really surprised
12:26by what's going on.
12:27There is a woman who's a lesbian and Jewish who did a show there and she got a standing ovation.
12:32And so there's stuff going on that's unexpected in this thing.
12:36And people have been playing Saudi Arabia for years.
12:40Comedians have been going and playing Arab countries.
12:43There was a film festival there recently.
12:46It's kind of opened up.
12:47But I've always said no to Arab countries doing shows.
12:51I do shows everywhere.
12:52Like this show I'm playing in India.
12:53I'm playing in Turkey.
12:54I'm playing in Bangkok, Hong Kong, all over the world this year.
12:58And when this came up, they said there's only two restrictions.
13:03It's their religion and their government.
13:06And I don't have jokes about those two things.
13:08It used to be when you got, when I got offers from places like that, that'd be a long list.
13:13And I just say, no, I don't need that.
13:15But when I heard it's opening, I thought that's awfully interesting.
13:18That just feels like a good opportunity.
13:20And I just think comedy is a great way to get in and start talking.
13:25And there's Saudi Arabian comedians there.
13:28And I'm going to a comedy club in Saudi Arabia the first night I get there to just see what's going on.
13:33I love stand-up comedy and I love comedians.
13:36So the fact that that's opening up and starting to bud, I want to see it.
13:40I want to be part of it.
13:41I think that's a positive.
13:42I think so, too.
13:44Dave Chappelle said, it was in the press today, saying that you can speak more freely over here than in America.
13:57I don't know if that's true.
13:58Oh, it's not true.
13:59No, no, no.
14:01Do your hunk on Mohammed, Dave.
14:04Yeah.
14:05Well, he's a Muslim, David.
14:07I understand.
14:08So it depends on who you are and what you want to talk about.
14:10Now, you go there, there's a pre-decide like there's a thing you buy into.
14:14Do you want to work here?
14:15Then don't talk about these two things.
14:17Other than that, my act is pretty offensive to most people.
14:20So it's going to be interesting to see how that feels, you know.
14:26To me, that's just an opportunity.
14:29Your act is not offensive.
14:31It's edgy.
14:32Eh, it's offensive.
14:35You wouldn't be nearly as popular as you are.
14:37No, no, definitely.
14:38It's worthy.
14:39Look, I think the whole discussion is worthy.
14:41I think it's, I'm glad these guys brought this stuff up.
14:44I'm glad that people are challenging this thing because you shouldn't just pretend it's
14:48something it's not.
14:49Right.
14:50So don't fool yourself.
14:51I'm grateful to the comics that brought it up like David Cross and Marc Maron.
14:56It's funny because David and I were roommates when we were 19 years old.
14:59We lived together in Boston.
15:01Wow.
15:02And we were just scrappy young guys.
15:04And Marc was there too.
15:05There was a dishwasher at a place called the Coffee Connection.
15:08And we were just kids trying to be comics in Boston.
15:11Dave had this bit about shaving the Pope's pussy.
15:14That was one of his bits.
15:15This is the kind of, and I just loved him because he was so, you know.
15:19And then later, David Cross wrote an open letter to Larry the Cable Guy telling him to quit comedy.
15:26You can look that up.
15:27Because he hated him.
15:28So he's an opinionated guy.
15:31These guys were my friends.
15:32I used to hang out with them constantly.
15:34And what brought us together was that we were comedians and we loved comedy.
15:38And they're on the other side of the divide.
15:39Yeah, they're on the other side of the debate.
15:40And we've drifted as friends and I miss them.
15:43But it's just funny to me.
15:45Today I was thinking about that.
15:46That all this crazy thing going on.
15:48It's those two guys.
15:49And then I walked by a car that didn't have a driver.
15:51And I was like, it's the future now.
15:53And life is so weird that my roommate and I are in this.
15:57You know what I mean?
15:58But I'm grateful for what he said because you should say that side too.
16:02I think everything that's being said about it, about that's a worthy discussion.
16:07When are you appeasing?
16:09When are you engaging?
16:11And I have mixed feelings about it too.
16:14I struggled about going once I started hearing what everyone was saying.
16:18Now you're doing the right thing.
16:19But well, I don't know.
16:20You're doing the right thing.
16:21That's the right thing.
16:22There's some good in it, maybe some bad in it.
16:28But I think for me it cuts towards going.
16:31And that's my decision.
16:33And I know where it's coming from because I can see right inside myself.
16:36Right.
16:37And everything is about the future.
16:39What do you think about the future?
16:41Let me ask you one final question.
16:43AI.
16:44I'm so curious about where you are on AI.
16:46Because I feel like maybe this is just because we're comics and I love us.
16:49So I think that we are like the last thing AI can do.
16:53I think if AI could do what you could do, then the world is over.
16:58Because what somebody like you does is think of things that have never been thought of before.
17:04Yeah.
17:05That's why it's a bit.
17:06If anybody had ever thought of it, it wouldn't be funny.
17:08Yes.
17:09It wouldn't be a bit.
17:10Right.
17:11I think you're looking to the past and whatever, on the internet forever.
17:14I don't think it can ever do what we do.
17:16Well, I think AI can imitate us really well.
17:19AI can probably listen to me and make a bit that sounds like me.
17:23But it can't come up with a new comedian.
17:25And like I have a friend who's an editor and editors are getting wiped out by AI because AI can see the rhythm of editing and it can imitate it.
17:33But the problem is those new jobs for editors and writers, the schleppy jobs, that's where great editors and writers come from.
17:41The training ground is doing the early small position jobs and then having an idea.
17:47What if you did it this way?
17:48The reason that art keeps growing is because there's weird people with unpredictable ideas, like mutating it.
17:56But I think the problem, AI will be so efficient that a lot of companies will do it, but it'll freeze.
18:01It'll freeze the progress.
18:03But that'll just be for the companies that do it.
18:05Somebody else will go, we're doing natural art, and they'll end up winning because people like to connect with other people.
18:14Art is about connecting with people.
18:15So, all right, well, there's a funny thing going on where if you want to write a letter to somebody, you can write the bullet points, and then AI will write the letter.
18:29And then the person who gets it can get AI to read it and give you bullet points.
18:36So what the fuck is that?
18:38Right.
18:38All right, well, if you're still enjoying 20th, 19th century stuff, Louie's book is called Ingram.
18:46I loved it.
18:47He's the new Mark Twain.
18:48All right, Billy C.K.
18:50Let me see you, pal.
18:51Good luck.
18:51Be careful over there.
18:52Be careful.
18:53All right.
18:54I'll see you soon.
18:55Time to meet our panel.
18:56Hey, guys.
19:03All right.
19:05He is a political commentator for CNN and the founder of DreamMachine.org and Rapport.co.
19:10Van Jones.
19:11Yeah, Van Man.
19:14Back with us, looking good, as always.
19:16He's a best-selling author and three-time Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter and columnist for The New York Times.
19:21Tom Friedman.
19:22Tom, it's been way too long since I've seen you.
19:26And the comedy and media gods have blessed us because you were here on the perfect night because it's a Friday here in Los Angeles and October 3rd.
19:37And it looks like maybe peace is at hand, as Henry Kissinger once said about another war in the Middle East.
19:43I don't know.
19:43This is just, again, what we're getting today as of October 3rd.
19:47Trump said he believed Hamas was ready for a lasting peace, demanded Israel stop the bombing.
19:53Hamas said they are ready to release all the Israeli hostages.
19:58Well, you know.
20:03After they killed almost all of them.
20:05So let's not get too excited about that.
20:08Based on field conditions, I don't know what that means.
20:11But this peace plan, you called it a smart plan in your column yesterday.
20:15You say yes.
20:16Qatar say yes.
20:17Where are we?
20:18Well, Bill, this was a very important day, obviously.
20:21And the key thing was, what would Trump say to Hamas's response, which was a yes spot, basically?
20:27Would Trump say, sorry, yes unconditionally to everything I laid down?
20:32Or would Trump say, love it, work with it, going with it?
20:37And Trump said, love it, work with it, going with it.
20:39Which means we're at the beginning of another really long negotiation.
20:44Yeah.
20:44I mean, here's the sticking point.
20:46Gaza will be governed under this plan.
20:49This is one of the points of their 20-point plan.
20:51By a technocratic, apolitical Palestinian committee.
20:56And there's lots of those over there.
20:58I mean, if it's one thing I've always heard about the Middle East, it's passions are low.
21:02They run low.
21:06So, what does that mean?
21:09Can anyone?
21:10Well, look, I'll take hope wherever I can find it at this point.
21:15You know, any country would have fought back hard if people had done what was done on October 7th.
21:22We've got to remember that.
21:23It's the equivalent of 40,000 Americans being murdered on one day.
21:28And so, you're going to fight back.
21:30You're going to fight back hard.
21:32But revenge is not a strategy.
21:34And the problem you have now is that this war has gone on so long that 80% of Israelis wanted to wind down.
21:39They just want the hostages back.
21:41So, I'm glad that Trump is trying.
21:43I'm glad he's putting pressure on the different parties.
21:46But what we know for sure is that the but is bigger than the yes right now.
21:51They said yes to get the headline, but there's a whole bunch of buts here that we're going to have to work our way through.
21:56My concern is that you have about a billion young people on planet Earth who only heard one thing about Israel in their entire lives.
22:05And that's just that Israel is hurting the Gazans.
22:07They live through TikTok.
22:08That's all they see.
22:09That's all they know.
22:10And my concern is I think some of my friends in Israel think they've got a hard-powered military problem against local bad actors.
22:19That's true.
22:20They also have a soft-powered global information war problem with a whole generation that just thinks that they're doing bad stuff.
22:26So, if they can stop the bombing, which Trump called for, and give people a chance to look at what's going on,
22:32we can put the focus back on the hostages and maybe get this thing wound down.
22:35So, that's what I hope.
22:36That's what I hope.
22:39You said in your column, Netanyahu can declare with some justification,
22:48Israel is defending Western democratic values by defeating the Islamo-fascist Hamas in Gaza.
22:56What could be more important than that?
22:58I mean, if you agree with that, and I agree with that, aren't we burying the lead?
23:02Isn't that the story of this war, a clash of civilizations, and whose side are we on?
23:09The problem for Israel, Bill, is that that has been true on that front with Hamas.
23:13And at the same time, Israel in the West Bank has been engaged in a Western-style colonial enterprise.
23:20And the problem was it didn't want...
23:22Always or are you saying recently?
23:23Recently.
23:24I mean, with this government in particular, this is the first Israeli government that came in with a mandate to annex the West Bank.
23:30So, that's been the problem for the very beginning.
23:33My view on the war was that Israel was fully justified in responding.
23:38But this was a very different enemy, Hamas, because it had basically stationed itself in tunnels under all these civilian hospitals and homes, etc.
23:45So, there are always going to be a lot of civilian casualties.
23:48It seemed to me the key thing for Israel was to make clear, we're going to go after these people.
23:52We're going to do what we have to do.
23:54There are going to be civilian casualties.
23:55But it's for the purpose of changing Gaza and producing a different Palestinian government there.
24:00Unfortunately, Netanyahu fought this war for two years now without ever committing himself to any endgame, particularly a negotiation with a different Palestinian authority or a different Palestinian government.
24:13And that's what's hurt, to Van's point, that when you're fighting a war and there's no endgame, clear, it just starts to look like killing everyone.
24:21Well, what would the endgame be? I don't know. I mean, they gave Gaza back in 2005.
24:25They unilaterally gave it back.
24:29They have offered...
24:30Bill, you know, let me just say that, you know, we can get into this debate, what would the endgame be?
24:35But this is my reaction to that, okay?
24:37The endgame, if you... you can win that debate.
24:39But what you win as Israel is you win 7 million Jews, governing 7 million Palestinians in perpetuity in the age of TikTok.
24:47And that's a losing strategy.
24:49It is.
24:50And so all I've been about is trying to, from the very beginning, figure out how to end this thing in a way where there is a Palestinian partner and you have a real alternative to Hamas.
24:59Otherwise, Israel winning, you win Gaza forever.
25:02And that's a bad, bad thing if you care about the future of the Jewish state.
25:05I agree that's a bad look for Israel. I just don't know what the better look is.
25:11Yeah, I...
25:12You know, I mean, it's like when you deal with suicide bombers, it's very hard, or anybody who uses suicide attacks, it's very hard to win and negotiate with someone who doesn't care if they live.
25:22And let's be honest, Hamas is a kind of a death cult.
25:26Right.
25:26And...
25:26They have to be defeated. But you have to keep working for an alternative because if you don't, that is the default. You end up owning Gaza. And that's a really bad thing.
25:35One thing about Bibi Netanyahu, who is not my favorite politician at all, is that he could just take a W at this point.
25:43I agree with you. Trying to figure out how to get all this stuff worked all the way through is difficult.
25:48But Hezbollah is essentially decapitated. That's a win.
25:53The Assad regime is gone.
25:55Iran has been pushed way back.
25:58Hamas definitely is no longer... If they think they can do it October 7th again, they're probably going to reconsider it.
26:04So there is a victory here on the hard power side.
26:07I think the problem is now on both sides, what is... How do you begin to reestablish Israel as the beacon for the young people around the world?
26:16In 10 years, the young people right now, they're going to... In 10 years, they'll be in parliament.
26:19In 10 years after that, they're going to be prime ministers.
26:21And right now, they don't get the joke. They've lost the plot.
26:24And so I think... I'm much less concerned about figuring out what's happening inside a Palestinian society than global youth society.
26:30And that's where we're losing the plot.
26:31But isn't part of that because we had to fold everything into critical race theory and somehow the Middle East became part of, you know...
26:41I see it differently.
26:43And I love this conversation because I think people, those of us who went to college,
26:48give a lot more credit to college courses for how the world works than I do.
26:52This is not about critical race theory on college campuses.
26:55This is about Iran. Iran and Qatar have come up with a disinformation campaign that they are running through TikTok and Instagram that is massive.
27:04If you are a young person, you open up your phone and all you see is dead Gaza baby, dead Gaza baby, dead Gaza baby.
27:10Diddy, dead Gaza baby, dead Gaza baby.
27:14That's basically your own feed.
27:17So that's not, that's not DEI.
27:23That is a geopolitical adversary that is, that is, that is deliberately trying to divide the West against itself.
27:28That view is not, but the idea that, I mean, you're talking about young people.
27:32A lot of them seem to know one thing.
27:34White people did some very bad things in this world, and they certainly did.
27:38But there are other things to know.
27:39Yes.
27:40Including the fact that in Sudan right now, which nobody is talking about, you have Arab militia murdering people by the wheelbarrow.
27:48Including the fact that Africa right now is being overrun by Islamist terrorists, including Boko Haram, with no conversation about that at all.
27:54I did it last week.
27:57Nigeria.
27:57Yeah, Nigeria.
27:58I mean, this is an actual planned genocide.
28:00Yes.
28:01I mean, they really want to kill all the Christians in that country, and they are systematically doing it.
28:06And the fact that there's almost no response from the global left and no attention from mainstream media is a crime against African people, black people, and human rights.
28:15I agree with that 100%.
28:16It turns out that there's a double standard for Jews.
28:21That is true.
28:23No Jews, no news.
28:24As long as you can put the Jewish state in the conversation, it's going to be a big conversation.
28:28If you can't, you get no attention at all.
28:31This is a big problem.
28:32The thing is, though, it's a big problem.
28:34The thing is, though, when you're in a hole, quit digging.
28:38I would like for Israel to stop doing what it's doing now, to give people a chance to catch up this conversation.
28:43As long as it's just bad picture after bad picture after bad picture, we're not going to be able to get anywhere.
28:52Dear Colin, you said, in Washington, officials lie in public and tell the truth in private.
28:58And in the Middle East, it's the opposite.
29:01They tell the truth in private and lie in public.
29:03Yeah.
29:03What do you mean by that?
29:05What I meant, Bill, is that when I was a reporter in the Middle East, I'll tell you a story.
29:08I was in Israel, and Yitzhak Rabin, then the defense minister, was talking about South Lebanese.
29:15He said, the South Lebanese don't behave and stop doing what they're doing.
29:19We're going to break their bones.
29:21Happened to be that day I had an appointment with Rabin.
29:24That's a pretty powerful quote.
29:25Went to his office, Mr. Defense Minister, if South Lebanese don't behave the way you argue, what will happen to them?
29:32He said, if they don't behave the way they should, something bad's going to happen to them.
29:36Okay?
29:36He realized he was talking to the New York Times.
29:39Okay?
29:39So what people say to you in private in the Middle East is irrelevant.
29:43All that matters is what they will defend in public, in their own language.
29:47And that's why I always listen to that.
29:48And that's why I listen to when Netanyahu went home from the meeting with Trump.
29:52He was much more circumspect than he was at the White House.
29:57And, look, this is going to be a really hard negotiation.
30:01But my approach to it, to pick up on Van's point, is I don't want to win a debate.
30:05I want to see Israel thrive.
30:06And what Hamas wanted from the very beginning, Bill, was to get Israel stuck in the sands of Gaza forever.
30:12Because they knew, in this world of social media, that's how they could bleed them.
30:16That was the asymmetry they could use.
30:18And all I'm saying is, you know, the history of this conflict really is the history of war timeout, war timeout, war timeout, war timeout.
30:23And what the history is really about is who did what during the timeout.
30:27Israel built a pretty amazing economy, society, and country.
30:33And Palestinians did for a million other reasons.
30:36Get to the timeout.
30:38Don't get stuck in their world.
30:40That's my whole philosophy.
30:41A little of the news from the Middle East, apropos of our discussion about Saudi Arabia and on the Middle East,
30:52I see in Afghanistan they took down the Internet and now they have put it back up.
30:58Apparently they took it down.
30:59I read in the paper there's been some dispute about why they did it.
31:02But apparently it was because it causes immorality.
31:05This would not be out of custom with the Taliban.
31:09Since we pulled out in 2021, here are some of the things the Taliban has done.
31:14Mannequins had to be beheaded.
31:18That's not a joke.
31:20Mannequins were too much for them.
31:23Mannequins.
31:23I've seen ones in department stores here that look beheaded.
31:30And that's like, oh, look.
31:31But here they did it.
31:32Education for girls?
31:34No.
31:35They couldn't go to the parks.
31:36Couldn't go to the parks.
31:38Meryl Streep famously said it, testifying,
31:41a squirrel has more rights than a girl in Afghanistan because a squirrel can go to the park.
31:47They shut down the beauty salons.
31:50They shut down...
31:50Women couldn't...
31:52Of course, they have to wear the full body covering.
31:56Hearing other women's voices.
31:58So they had to...
31:59You not only can't talk, now you can't listen.
32:03So when I saw this story about the Afghan internet going down, I said,
32:10well, we used to do a thing on this show called Revealing Google Searches.
32:14And now that they're back up there in Afghanistan,
32:16we're going to do a special Afghan edition of Google Searches.
32:20Would you like to...
32:21For example, fun gift ideas for celebrating 9-11.
32:29It's a...
32:30Where to watch tonight's beheading?
32:40Well, sure, that's good.
32:41What's the exchange rate between the U.S. dollar and my daughter?
32:55Can a chopped-off hand grow back?
32:57Well, that's a good one.
32:58Is Paul Rudd Jewish?
33:05Wow.
33:05Even...
33:06Even in Afghanistan, they do it after...
33:12Oh, stepsister stoning videos is one of them.
33:16What year is it?
33:30Um...
33:30Couldn't the NFL find someone better than Bad Bunny?
33:33Oh, I...
33:34Even in Afghanistan, they're asking that.
33:38Hmm.
33:38Um...
33:40Sidney Sweeney fully clothed.
33:43Wow.
33:47Uh...
33:48Are videos of women driving cars real or AI?
33:56And, of course...
33:58How to cancel Disney Plus.
34:01That's everywhere in the world.
34:02All right, so, um...
34:07Let's get to the domestic news.
34:11Okay, this is...
34:12If you went to the Department of Agriculture's website today, it said...
34:15Trump.
34:17You gotta say, politically, no one can touch him.
34:21Due to the radical left Democratic shutdown.
34:24Okay, right away...
34:25Right off the bat.
34:26We've had so many shutdowns.
34:28Nobody ever did that.
34:29But that's how he plays the game.
34:30So, if you're not following this, what's going on here is that...
34:33During COVID, they expanded the Obamacare credits so that people could get health care.
34:39I've never understood, by the way, the bizarre Republican obsession with taking health care away from people.
34:44I mean, first of all, I mean, Mitt Romney did it in Massachusetts.
34:48And it was a Republican idea.
34:50Like, people are getting free health care in the emergency room.
34:52Let's stop that.
34:53No freeloaders.
34:54We're Republicans.
34:56I just don't get it.
34:56Why they...
34:57How many times did they try to kill Obamacare?
35:00Then they did get rid of the mandate.
35:02It still survived.
35:03But this is the only leverage Democrats have.
35:06Democrats want to restore this and some of the Medicaid cuts.
35:09This is about health care.
35:11Democrats think this is the one issue we have.
35:13And this is the one leverage we have, which is to shut down the government.
35:17Because, after all, they don't have any other power.
35:20And the question I'm asking is, who's going to win this?
35:23Can they...
35:24Because people will lose that.
35:25Kaiser predicts premium payments in 26 will more than double if the ACA enhanced premium tax credits expire.
35:33Can the pain that people feel be connected to the Trump administration?
35:39This has been the hard thing for Democrats always.
35:42Can you connect the pain to the people providing it?
35:45Look, I...
35:46I'm going to maybe piss off some of my Democratic friends, but I think you can always trust our party to do the wrong thing at the wrong time for the right reason.
35:56Okay, so here's the problem.
35:59Right now, if the Democrats don't do anything and they pass this clean resolution, which they don't want to do, if they did it, guess what would happen this month?
36:08Premiums would start going through the roof this month.
36:11By the time you get to the end of November, you would have Americans marching in the streets saying,
36:15I can't pay 150% more for my insurance premiums.
36:17What the heck is going on?
36:19Instead, we decided to not let that happen and shut the entire government down.
36:23So now people are going to be mad about the post office and a hundred other things that Republicans can then blame on us.
36:30So I'm like, I get it.
36:32The base is upset.
36:33The base wants us to do something.
36:34Please do something.
36:35Do anything.
36:36But the something probably shouldn't be throwing a bunch of people out of work in the federal government and crushing America's government's ability to function right before the pain was about to start.
36:48So that's my concern.
36:49You know, um...
36:51You know what?
36:53My reaction is related to your reflection about what they put on those websites.
37:00It did the Department of Education, too.
37:02Like, if you got an out-of-work message, it came up and said, you know, basically the Democrats closed the government.
37:07They forced people to put that on, or they just put that on people's phone messages or email messages.
37:13I'm actually looking more at independence.
37:15Because the question for me is not what's happening now.
37:18What's going to happen in the midterm?
37:19Because everything to me is about the midterm.
37:22Democrats have to get power.
37:24And I think the key is going to be what independents do.
37:26They really gave, you know, Trump the last election.
37:29And I want to go back again to your introduction.
37:31I think independents are looking at all this stuff.
37:33Hanks' speech.
37:34Trump's press conference with Netanyahu.
37:36These kinds of things.
37:37And they're sitting back and saying, there is some crazy shit going on, okay?
37:42And I am not comfortable with this.
37:46This is just really getting out of control.
37:49My hope, my sense, because I'm kind of an independent myself, that that's where people are feeling.
37:55And that's what will determine the midterm.
37:57Honestly, Tom, crazy shit has not moved them for 10 years.
38:01I remember being on this show the night of the debate when Trump was ranting about their eating the dogs.
38:09And I was like, that has got to be it.
38:12That just was the most unhinged thing I've ever seen.
38:15But we have had an election.
38:18I mean, I take it for what it's worth.
38:19You know, Sioux City, Iowa, these seats that have flipped.
38:23Spanberger in Virginia are now hugely ahead.
38:25I just think a lot of independents are looking at this and saying, this is getting, and not just this, but the whole authoritarian move.
38:32Yes.
38:33Really scary stuff.
38:35And I think that's what I'm hoping for.
38:37There's lots of things they don't like.
38:38To your point, I mean, I look at the list of, apparently, I didn't see this,
38:42but I'm just going by what the list of government offices, departments that are affecting this the most.
38:48So I assume the Trump administration is the one who decides when they cut off money in the government because we have no more money.
38:55October 1st was the fiscal new year.
38:57I always throw a rager.
39:02And now there's no more money, but they have some, but they keep some people working.
39:07Well, like EPA, they closed down like 89% of the EPA.
39:11Surprise!
39:11So they're just going to close down the shit they wanted to close down anyway.
39:16The economy, it was, they were going to, we were going to get very, very bad job numbers today.
39:21And of course, Donald Trump, a.k.a. the luckiest man in the world, now we won't have those numbers at all.
39:26But if the economy goes in the shitter, he's going to say, well, the Democrats closed down the government.
39:33That's what did it.
39:34It was all going fine until then.
39:36I, I, I like the fact that we have this leverage and I just want to use it at the right time.
39:40Right.
39:41Wait, give it, so I would have said, and the weird thing is, I talked to Chuck Schumer about this like three months ago, and he was kicking me in the butt because I had been tough on him for not allowing the government to shut down.
39:54And he convinced me that shutting the government down is stupid.
39:57Then I call the TV and he says, we're now shutting the government down.
40:00So hold on a second, guys.
40:01He once convinced me to give him a million dollars and that went down the drain.
40:04Exactly.
40:06So, so look, my view is the Republicans were about to let a bunch of Americans, 15 million Americans, step on a rake called their insurance premiums going through the roof.
40:17That's when you shut the government down.
40:19But you do it before, and now it's just going to be one more, you know, piece of garbage, you know, coming at the American people.
40:24I just think the timing's not that great, but look, maybe it'll work.
40:27Okay, so you mentioned the Pete Hegg said thing I was talking about in the monologue, and the kicker was somewhere in the middle, or maybe it was at the end when Trump got up there.
40:36And look, I don't know if this is a riff or this is a major policy change, because sometimes he just riffs, and he just says something, and you go, what?
40:47Training grounds for the enemy within was the phrase that stuck out in my mind.
40:51This is what he said.
40:52He said, President, I've got an idea, said, he said, we should use troops in cities, are dangerous cities, troops.
41:11He's talking to the troops here.
41:12Yeah.
41:13Use them as training grounds.
41:16In other words, in case we have to fight the homeless overseas, we're going to use the military.
41:27And now, again, sometimes he just says shit.
41:29I remember when, after one of the school shootings, they were having a roundtable thing, and he said to Mike Pence, who was the price player, he said, Mike, maybe we take away the guns first.
41:38Yeah.
41:38Can you imagine if people really took him seriously, especially on the right, take away the guns?
41:45And then it was forgotten the next day.
41:47Now, maybe this will be forgotten the next day.
41:49But, you know what kills me about that whole story, though, that whole event, Bill, if I could say, is I just came from Kiev.
41:54I was there a couple weeks ago.
41:56You know, you are watching there the greatest freedom fight on the planet, okay?
42:02Ukrainians struggling, inventing drones themselves.
42:08They're scraping like anything to beat the Russians back.
42:13And Hexits is talking about lethality and all this fighting spirit.
42:18Meanwhile, they're not giving a dime, a dime in their new budget for Ukraine, okay?
42:23So, like, what is all this lethality for?
42:26Number two, while I was over there...
42:27Wait, I thought we were giving the money to the other European countries to get weapons to the Ukrainians.
42:33No, no, no.
42:34The other Europeans are giving their own money to buy weapons from us to give to the Ukrainians, okay?
42:39So it's a little different.
42:41Number one, we zeroed them out.
42:43Number two, while I was over there, Russia sent 20 drones into Poland.
42:47What was Rubio's, our Secretary of State's response?
42:50Well, we're still studying it.
42:51It could have been an accident.
42:5220 drones over six hours was an accident, you know?
42:56Then they sent MiGs over Estonia.
42:59So these guys are doing this whole lethality thing, and we're fighting spirit and do more push-ups and get rid of your beard, okay?
43:05And meanwhile, Putin every day is fighting a hybrid war, and we're leaving on the field the greatest freedom fight on the planet right now.
43:15Look, I agree 100%.
43:19Also, I agree 100%.
43:24But, you know, also, what a small, insecure man.
43:29Yeah.
43:29Heck said this.
43:30Go ahead.
43:31To be sitting up there, complaining about how, you know, basically, girls aren't good enough and all this sort of stuff, nobody on planet Earth, I mean, it's just weird.
43:43Like, nobody on planet Earth is sitting here saying, we used to be afraid of the United States military, now we're not because there are women in there.
43:49Yeah.
43:49Literally, we are the most feared military in the world, that's why the world is as stable as it is, and nobody's complaining about it except this one dude who decides that he just can't stand the fact that there are women who have arms.
44:06As a father of a daughter, I think every girl dad should be offended by what he said.
44:12Uh, the women who are in our armed forces can kick his ass any day of the week, and he needs to back up.
44:19Now, when I'm depressed, to pick up on Van's point, when I'm depressed, what I really enjoy doing is traveling with the U.S. military.
44:27That's right.
44:28Because what you see is our real strength.
44:30It's our ability to make out of many one, okay?
44:33That's actually our real strength.
44:34And when you see them operate in the Middle East, where people can't make out of many one, that's when you understand the real secret of our sauce.
44:42So, headline in your paper today, top story, most voters say U.S. can't repair severe divisions.
44:50They went into the fact that five years ago, even during the pandemic and during the George Floyd protests, even then, people thought, well, we are going to get through this.
45:00And now they seem to be on the page of, it's not going to happen.
45:06What do we do?
45:07Did you see the story?
45:08I think what's new about this moment, one of my teachers and friends, Dove Seidman, likes to say this.
45:13We aren't divided.
45:14We are being divided.
45:15That's right.
45:15By companies for profit, okay?
45:18And we have our divisions.
45:20We always have.
45:20We're always happy.
45:21But it is now a giant, what is new in my life is it is now a giant industry to make people stupid and angry.
45:29And I'm not sure what happened.
45:30You're talking about algorithms.
45:31Right, exactly.
45:32And Facebook and all the things that these people do.
45:35And we'd be, we'd be, you know, the way I look at the world right now, we're going through a lot of social change.
45:39We're going through a lot of technological change.
45:42The pot would be boiling.
45:43But then along came Mark Zuckerberg, and he turned the heat up on the pot.
45:47And then along came Trump, and he took the lid off the pot.
45:49And he made it permissible, popular, and profitable to say and do things to and about each other we never did before.
45:57And all three of those things need to be addressed.
46:29You're a truck.
46:30You're a conservative.
46:31And from that day forward, you got different information every day, and nobody sent a notice.
46:37And so now you literally think your neighbor is insane, because how could they possibly think this stuff?
46:41But if you put your phone next to their phone, you're in different algorithmic universes.
46:45And that is brand new and very dangerous.
46:47All right.
46:48We've got to end it there.
46:49Great work, guys.
46:50It's time for New Rules, everybody.
46:55All right.
46:59Okay.
47:00New Rule.
47:01Children's animators must tell me why they always draw the sun with sunglasses on.
47:15Sunglasses are supposed to protect your eyes from the sun.
47:18Why would the sun be wearing them?
47:20It's like when they do cartoon pigs, and they're wearing a barbecue apron.
47:24Why don't you just put a happy baby on a box of condom?
47:35Uh, New Rule, using a skin care brand called Activist doesn't actually make you an activist.
47:50You know what Malcolm X, Cesar Chavez, and Lech Walesa all had in common?
47:54None of them sold an active hydration serum.
47:57This stuff may be great for those fine lines and wrinkles, but I just don't see how it leads
48:08to restorative justice for marginalized communities.
48:11That said, I never go anywhere without my tube of, this sunscreen kills fascists.
48:16New Rule, someone has to explain how I can be a red-blooded, freedom-loving American male
48:27and still want to be taken over by this Chinese all-female brigade.
48:37Seriously, ladies, strip me naked, put me in a tiger cage,
48:41and let's violate the Geneva Conventions.
48:50And don't hate me if they say I'd like you to love me for a long time.
49:01New Rule, now that there's an AI-powered necklace you can buy called Friend
49:05that listens to everything you say and then gives you positive feedback,
49:09I'd just like to say to the poor, lonely people who buy this,
49:13if you think you have no real friends now,
49:15wait till everyone sees you talking to your necklace.
49:26New Rule directors have to find a better way to show that their anti-hero
49:30doesn't give a fuck than putting him outside in a bathrobe.
49:34In the movie, one battle after another,
49:37Leonardo DiCaprio spends the whole movie outside in a bathrobe,
49:41just like the dude in The Big Lebowski.
49:44And Tony Soprano, and Hawkeye in MASH,
49:48and Ferris Bueller, and Brad Pitt in Fight Club.
49:52Man, if wearing a bathrobe all day made you this cool,
49:56wouldn't Joe Biden still be president?
49:57And finally, New Rule, of all the ways America continues to divide itself,
50:11nowhere is it more pronounced than in gender,
50:14and until the Democrats come to grips with that,
50:16they won't have much success winning elections.
50:19Let's just put it out there.
50:20Women are the Democrats' base,
50:22and men who get hit in the head for a living are Trumps.
50:25They're the bro party,
50:34the party of car shows on the White House lawn,
50:37and breaking shit, and seeing what happens,
50:39and busting balls, and shooting stuff like beer.
50:45And laws.
50:50It's been that way for a long time,
50:52the mommy party, and the daddy party,
50:55the party of pussy hats,
50:56and the party of truck nuts.
51:04But that divide is on steroids now,
51:09and getting worse.
51:10In the 24 election,
51:11young men preferred Trump by two points,
51:13and young women, Kamala,
51:15by 24.
51:17The only way Trump can appeal to women 18 to 39
51:20is making him one of his lawyers.
51:28Men and women can barely date anymore
51:31because they can't stomach each other's politics.
51:34It's why everyone is gay now.
51:39We're just...
51:40We're just done with each other.
51:43If you don't believe me,
51:44ask yourself,
51:45what podcasts do I listen to?
51:48Trump bros have 50,000 of them
51:50about politics and protein powder.
51:52While in the woman's sphere,
51:54the podcasts are all about
51:55balancing career and motherhood
51:57until eventually true crime happens
51:59and someone gets murdered.
52:00They like murder,
52:10we like killing people.
52:13Here's a mind-blowing stat
52:15about the divide.
52:1673% of boomer men
52:18disagreed with the statement,
52:20mental health challenges
52:21are an important part of my identity.
52:2472% of Gen Z women
52:26said the opposite.
52:28They agreed,
52:28mental health challenges
52:29are an important part of my identity.
52:32Okay, let's say it all together.
52:34Women are better than men.
52:36They're smarter and kinder
52:37and make way better firefighters.
52:39But
52:39I'm never moving past it
52:41isn't really the campaign slogan
52:43we're looking for.
52:45I'm sorry, Democratic women,
52:46but this is your party.
52:48You have a special responsibility
52:50to look tough.
52:51Senator Alyssa Slotkin
52:53seems to get that
52:54and not just because of her service
52:56in Iraq and with the CIA,
52:58but because she says things like
52:59Democrats need to
53:01fucking retake the flag.
53:03Democrats have to stop
53:04being weak and woke,
53:06she says.
53:07Good message.
53:08Because no one's holding
53:09women back anymore.
53:11In many ways,
53:11they're leaving men in the dust.
53:13Women are much less likely
53:14to be unemployed now,
53:16less likely to blow
53:17a month's pay on DraftKings.
53:18Eee.
53:21And much more likely
53:28to complete college.
53:30The only writing young men
53:31do these days
53:32is engraving their bullets.
53:36That's okay.
53:42Booing into applause.
53:43Very rare.
53:44America now has
53:4814 million
53:49women-owned businesses,
53:51which generate
53:522.7 trillion in revenue.
53:54Yeah.
53:56Women launched...
53:57Women launched 49%
54:04of all new businesses
54:06in 2024.
54:07And the number of black
54:08women-owned businesses
54:10outpaced the growth rates
54:12of every other demographic.
54:14In the...
54:14I'm spitting facts!
54:25In the Barbie...
54:26In the Barbie movie,
54:27when she storms
54:28into the Mattel boardroom,
54:29it's 12 people,
54:30all men.
54:31But Mattel
54:32is a real company.
54:33And in 2023,
54:34their boardroom
54:35was actually
54:35six men and five women.
54:38Perpetuating victimhood,
54:39especially when it's false,
54:40is not a great advertisement
54:41for leadership.
54:43Kamala Harris' new memoir
54:45of the 24 election
54:46is called
54:47107 Days,
54:48but it should have been called
54:50Everyone Sucks But Me.
55:01107 Days is a victim's title
55:03because, get it,
55:04she only had 107 days to win.
55:06Yeah, and a half,
55:08and a billion and a half dollars.
55:10And a built-in army
55:13of about 75 million people
55:15who'd vote for any human
55:17adjacent life form
55:18that wasn't Trump.
55:20But in 107 days,
55:23nothing is ever Kamala's fault.
55:25Biden lets her down
55:26by not stepping down sooner.
55:28Pouty face emoji.
55:29Pouty face emoji.
55:32Gavin Newsom,
55:33he was asked for his endorsement,
55:35but texted,
55:35Hiking will call back.
55:39But then never did.
55:42And then he didn't even
55:43ask her to prom.
55:47America,
55:48America itself,
55:49lets Kamala down
55:50by not being ready
55:51for the running mate
55:52she really wanted,
55:53Pete Buttigieg.
55:54So she's stuck
55:55with the Home Depot
55:56paint salesman.
55:57And the rest is herstory.
56:01Poor,
56:02poor Kamala.
56:04We made her the star
56:05of a rom-com
56:06and didn't even give her
56:07a gay best friend.
56:18Kamala writes that
56:19on election night
56:19when it was clear
56:20she lost,
56:21an aide
56:21peeled the words
56:23Madam President
56:24off the cupcakes
56:25before handing them out.
56:27Oh, jeez,
56:30that's like a scene
56:31from Bridget Jones
56:32runs for president
56:33for Christ's sake.
56:40Look, ladies,
56:41I know this isn't fair,
56:42but we're all always
56:44running against
56:45the worst cliche
56:46of who people think
56:47we are.
56:48Women Democrats
56:48can't look
56:49oversensitive
56:50or preachy
56:51or unable
56:52to laugh at themselves.
56:53They also can't look silly
56:54like Gretchen Whitmer did
56:56trying to hide
56:57in the Oval Office.
56:58They have to look
56:59brave and strong.
57:01It wasn't a good look
57:02for the woman party
57:03that all the guys
57:04were speaking out
57:05for Jimmy Kimmel
57:06when Trump went after him
57:07except on the woman show
57:09where for five days
57:10the outspoken hosts
57:12were suddenly
57:13as quiet as a geisha.
57:14Then on the fifth day
57:20they rose and said,
57:21no one silences us.
57:23No one had to.
57:24You silenced yourself.
57:33Whoopi Goldberg continued,
57:34did you all really think
57:36we weren't going
57:36to talk about Jimmy Kimmel?
57:38No, I thought you would,
57:40but then you didn't.
57:41Five days?
57:49Talk about needing
57:50extra time to get ready.
57:54And if you can't
57:55take a breath
57:55and laugh at that,
57:57you're making
57:57my point for me.
57:58All right.
57:59Thank you very much,
58:00ladies and gentlemen.
58:01We're off next week
58:02back on the 17th.
58:03I want to thank
58:04Van Jones,
58:05Tom Freeman,
58:05and Louis C.K.
58:07Club Random drops
58:08every Monday on YouTube
58:09or listen to where
58:10to get your podcast.
58:11back on Overtime
58:12on YouTube.
58:13Thank you very much,
58:14ladies and gentlemen.
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