NFL Player-Turned-Horse Owner Terry Bradshaw Joins TDN Writers' Room

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His fans might not know that former NFL quarterback Terry Bradshaw is also a lifelong horse lover. This year, he's hoping to get to the Breeders' Cup with his filly Taken by the Wind, the winner of the GIII Pocahontas Stakes who he co-owns with Magdalena Racing and Graham Leveston. The enthusiastic owner joined us on this week's TDN Writers' Room.

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00:00:00Welcome to another edition of the

00:00:29TDN Writers Room Podcast presented by

00:00:31Keeneland. My name is Bill Finley. I'm a

00:00:33correspondent for the Thoroughbred Daily News

00:00:35and also broadcast racing on Sirius

00:00:37XM Radio. How y'all doing?

00:00:40I'm Brandy Moss with NBC

00:00:41Sports. Looking forward to our upcoming

00:00:43chat with Mr. Terry Bradshaw.

00:00:46Also, I got papers everywhere. Zoe

00:00:47loves that. I'm preparing for a telecast

00:00:50this weekend, old school style.

00:00:52We've got on NBC

00:00:53Saturday and Sunday races from Keeneland

00:00:55and also from Santa Anita. It'll be on

00:00:57CNBC from 4

00:00:59to 6 p.m. on Saturday and

00:01:01then NBC Regular on Sunday

00:01:04also from 4 to 6. Just

00:01:05a broadcast alert there,

00:01:07Zoe. Definitely. We'll be

00:01:09looking forward to that. I'll have to press record

00:01:11at home because I'll be at Santa Anita.

00:01:14I'm Zoe Cabman with Santa Anita

00:01:15and First TV and

00:01:17really looking forward to talking

00:01:19to Mr. Bradshaw.

00:01:21Aren't we all? He's going to be a great guest, I assume,

00:01:24because he's

00:01:25interesting. He's eccentric. I think

00:01:28hopefully that we'll get that

00:01:29same sort of Terry Bradshaw out of

00:01:31him. So guys, usually we start off

00:01:33the show by going over the bigger

00:01:35races of the weekend. I want to do something

00:01:37a little bit different because I think the biggest

00:01:39story of the week was not

00:01:41anything that happened on the racetrack, but was

00:01:43the Paco Lopez situation.

00:01:46And he was given a six

00:01:47month suspension by Haiza

00:01:49for essentially violating

00:01:52his probation

00:01:53when he hit a horse by the name

00:01:55of National Law across the face

00:01:57with a whip in December.

00:01:59At least there were

00:01:5945 days

00:02:00then. And since

00:02:02then, there have been

00:02:0425 over-the-head

00:02:05violations that Haiza

00:02:07has recorded. Eight of them

00:02:09belong to Paco

00:02:10Lopez. So

00:02:11I think the breeders, excuse me, I think

00:02:13Haiza just said, enough is

00:02:15enough, Paco. You haven't learned your lesson

00:02:17and take a little vacation, my friend.

00:02:19Zoe, you're our

00:02:21expert jockey. What do you think of this?

00:02:23All right. Well, let me just preface

00:02:25with, we'll start off with this.

00:02:27When Paco Lopez hit that

00:02:29horse, National Law around the face

00:02:31in December, I wholeheartedly

00:02:33agree that we have no room

00:02:35for that in this sport of horse racing

00:02:37and he should have got six months.

00:02:39He should have served his six months.

00:02:40He wouldn't have been having the best year

00:02:42ever had he done

00:02:43six months already. So

00:02:45I'll leave that there

00:02:47and we'll move on.

00:02:48What has happened since,

00:02:51however, I feel

00:02:53is akin to moving the

00:02:55goalposts. Now, we're not quite

00:02:56sure what this

00:02:58two-year probationary period

00:03:00was. You mentioned

00:03:02the eight whip violations

00:03:04with putting his arm above his

00:03:06shoulder to hit a horse

00:03:07when there's only been 25

00:03:08nationwide between all the

00:03:11jockeys in America.

00:03:12One thing I can't quite understand is

00:03:14if all the other

00:03:14jocks in America seem to get it

00:03:16right, why is Paco Lopez at fault

00:03:19eight of the 25

00:03:21violations that have come through?

00:03:23What I'd really like to know

00:03:25is what were the stipulations

00:03:27of the probation?

00:03:28Was it eight?

00:03:29Paco, if you get eight

00:03:31violations, you're automatically

00:03:33out for two years.

00:03:35If that's the case

00:03:36and he knew he was coming up

00:03:37on eight, okay, fair game.

00:03:39You know, you had your probation.

00:03:41The magic number is eight.

00:03:43But was there a magic number?

00:03:44I'm not sure there was.

00:03:45And this to me

00:03:46is exactly what happened

00:03:48with Bob Baffert's

00:03:49feud with CDI

00:03:50when he served his two years

00:03:52and then they just

00:03:54tacked on another one

00:03:55just for the hell of it.

00:03:56We can't keep moving

00:03:57the goalposts.

00:03:58So for that,

00:03:59I stand with Paco

00:04:00for the incident

00:04:01in December.

00:04:03He should have got

00:04:04six months

00:04:04and I,

00:04:06as a horse owner,

00:04:07can quite easily say

00:04:09I wouldn't put him

00:04:09on a horse

00:04:10purely because of that.

00:04:12but this,

00:04:13what has happened since

00:04:14is not fair.

00:04:16Yeah, I'm kind of

00:04:19torn on this.

00:04:20I suppose if I was

00:04:21judge, jury,

00:04:22and executioner

00:04:23in this case,

00:04:24I probably

00:04:26would give him

00:04:28two or three months

00:04:29instead of the six months.

00:04:32I mean,

00:04:32I think a message

00:04:34has to be delivered

00:04:35that hasn't gotten

00:04:36through apparently.

00:04:38but I agree with you.

00:04:40I don't think

00:04:41there was communication

00:04:42necessarily with Paco

00:04:44saying you get

00:04:45X number of violations

00:04:47and then we're really

00:04:48going to lower

00:04:49the hammer on you.

00:04:51He's also a

00:04:52very unsympathetic figure.

00:04:55Everybody in horse racing

00:04:56knows he's been

00:04:57kind of a loose cannon

00:04:58on the racetrack.

00:04:592019,

00:05:00Gulfstream suspended him

00:05:01for 30 days

00:05:02for his part

00:05:03in a spill.

00:05:04Came right back then

00:05:05and suspended him

00:05:05for 60 more days

00:05:07when there was another spill.

00:05:08They ultimately trim that

00:05:09with community service

00:05:10and things like that.

00:05:11Then there's the incident

00:05:12where he hits the horse

00:05:13in the face

00:05:14and all that.

00:05:15Since then,

00:05:16right,

00:05:16since he came back

00:05:18from that

00:05:1946-day suspension,

00:05:21right,

00:05:22February the 10th,

00:05:23two violations

00:05:24for raising the whip,

00:05:25both for $500 fines.

00:05:27One-day suspensions

00:05:28on Feb 25,

00:05:30April 23rd,

00:05:31April 29th,

00:05:32May 6th,

00:05:34July the 20th,

00:05:35two days on August the 20th,

00:05:37three days on August the 23rd,

00:05:38one day on September 11th.

00:05:40Are you kidding me?

00:05:42Seriously?

00:05:43I mean,

00:05:44this guy clearly

00:05:45either isn't getting

00:05:46the message

00:05:47or doesn't give a care

00:05:49and it's worth it to him

00:05:51to take a one-day suspension

00:05:53if it comes to winning

00:05:54a particular race.

00:05:56So yeah,

00:05:56I do think

00:05:58that a message

00:05:59needs to be delivered

00:06:01and a strong message

00:06:02needs to be delivered,

00:06:03but do I think

00:06:04six months

00:06:05this is a little

00:06:05over the top?

00:06:07Yeah,

00:06:07I do

00:06:08and I expect that,

00:06:09honestly,

00:06:10maybe I'm wrong.

00:06:11I kind of expect

00:06:12that to be adjudicated

00:06:13downward,

00:06:14compromised downward

00:06:15just a little bit,

00:06:16but we'll see.

00:06:18Randy,

00:06:19one other thing

00:06:19I'd like to point out

00:06:20about this

00:06:20and it's kind of

00:06:21piggybacking off

00:06:22what you said,

00:06:22he doesn't learn

00:06:24his lesson

00:06:24and he acts

00:06:27on the racetrack

00:06:27like the rules

00:06:28don't apply to him.

00:06:30What is there?

00:06:31Two,

00:06:313,000 jockeys

00:06:32in the country

00:06:32and these guys,

00:06:35it's only Paco,

00:06:36it's always Paco

00:06:37and you named

00:06:38all these different

00:06:39suspensions,

00:06:4030 days here,

00:06:4060 days,

00:06:41he didn't learn

00:06:42his lesson

00:06:42from any of them.

00:06:44When he gets back

00:06:45on the horse,

00:06:46he's just back

00:06:47to being Paco.

00:06:48Now,

00:06:49you know,

00:06:50he's got it

00:06:50and that's why

00:06:52I don't think

00:06:52he's going to change.

00:06:53I am all in favor

00:06:54of the six months

00:06:55suspension.

00:06:56I think they should

00:06:56have given him

00:06:57more than six months

00:06:58for hitting that horse

00:06:59in the face

00:06:59with the whip

00:07:00but he's,

00:07:01somebody's got to

00:07:02sit this guy down

00:07:03and say,

00:07:03you got to stop

00:07:04this stuff.

00:07:05It's bad for your career

00:07:06and it's certainly

00:07:07bad for horse racing.

00:07:09I'd just like to know

00:07:10the number.

00:07:11I mean,

00:07:11in order to see

00:07:13this correctly,

00:07:14we need to know,

00:07:14was it eight whip

00:07:16violations?

00:07:16You're out.

00:07:18Was it five?

00:07:19Or did they just

00:07:19suddenly wake up

00:07:20and go,

00:07:21oh,

00:07:21another one?

00:07:21All right,

00:07:22yeah,

00:07:22screw it.

00:07:23I've had enough

00:07:23of him.

00:07:24Write him off

00:07:24for six months.

00:07:25That's what I think

00:07:26is the thing

00:07:27that we need

00:07:28to know.

00:07:29What's interesting

00:07:30is that in the

00:07:31HISA whip rules,

00:07:32I went back

00:07:33and looked at

00:07:33the regulations

00:07:34the way they're

00:07:34written and they

00:07:36are very specifically

00:07:37written with

00:07:39point totals

00:07:40for violations

00:07:41and escalating

00:07:43suspensions

00:07:44that go all the

00:07:44way up to 30

00:07:45days.

00:07:46But those are

00:07:47only for whip

00:07:48violations pertaining

00:07:49to the number

00:07:50of times a horse

00:07:51is hit during

00:07:53the running

00:07:53of a race.

00:07:53There's no

00:07:54sort of guidelines

00:07:55like that about

00:07:57the violations

00:07:58when a jockey

00:07:59raises his wrist

00:08:00over his helmet.

00:08:01So that's all

00:08:01kind of fly by the

00:08:02seat of your pants

00:08:03sort of thing,

00:08:04at least as far

00:08:04as the regulations,

00:08:05the way they're

00:08:06written right now

00:08:06are concerned.

00:08:07And I think,

00:08:08as Bill pointed out,

00:08:09HISA just said,

00:08:10enough is enough.

00:08:12It's a bad look

00:08:13for horse racing

00:08:14and we're going

00:08:15to do something

00:08:15about it.

00:08:16One thing quickly

00:08:17that I think

00:08:18is a plus for the

00:08:19sport because we

00:08:20never seem to

00:08:21manage this,

00:08:22all the jocks

00:08:23have stuck together

00:08:23on this.

00:08:24And every single

00:08:25jock that's for

00:08:26Paco has probably

00:08:27likely been fouled

00:08:28by Paco at one

00:08:29point or time.

00:08:31And I think in

00:08:31this day and age,

00:08:32it's actually good

00:08:33to see some unity

00:08:34in some part

00:08:35of horse racing.

00:08:37So kudos to the

00:08:38jocks for sticking

00:08:38together.

00:08:39And they're saying

00:08:40the right things

00:08:41like Johnny Velasquez

00:08:43is not,

00:08:44you know,

00:08:45he's not against

00:08:46the whip rules.

00:08:47He said,

00:08:47rules are rules,

00:08:48rules need to be

00:08:49followed.

00:08:50And he needs to

00:08:51get a message,

00:08:51but we just think

00:08:52that six months

00:08:53is too much.

00:08:54Gotcha.

00:08:55Well, guys,

00:08:55let's now return

00:08:56to the racetrack

00:08:57and the big race

00:08:59over the weekend

00:08:59and one of the big

00:09:00races over the weekend

00:09:01was the Joe Hurst

00:09:02Turf Classic

00:09:03out at Aqueduct.

00:09:05Isn't this

00:09:06Rebel's Romance

00:09:06a neat horse?

00:09:07He's seven years old.

00:09:08He wins the

00:09:10Joe Hurst Turf Classic.

00:09:11He's already won

00:09:12two Breeders' Cups

00:09:13in 24.

00:09:14He won the Breeders' Cup

00:09:15Turf and in 22

00:09:16he won the Breeders' Cup

00:09:17Turf as well.

00:09:19The stable made

00:09:19El Cordobas

00:09:20a little bit

00:09:21disappointing

00:09:21finishing third.

00:09:23But Randy,

00:09:24you said he'd be

00:09:25the favorite

00:09:25in the Breeders' Cup

00:09:26Turf.

00:09:26I'm sure he will be.

00:09:27He's a fun horse.

00:09:28He's easy to root for.

00:09:30This might have been

00:09:31the first time

00:09:32in his career

00:09:32he was ever put

00:09:33on the early lead.

00:09:34I'm not sure about that.

00:09:35He's run an awful

00:09:36lot of times

00:09:36in his life.

00:09:37I'd love the ride

00:09:39by Frankie de Tori.

00:09:40I still don't know

00:09:41why William Buick

00:09:43didn't make the trip

00:09:43over to ride him.

00:09:44Maybe that was

00:09:45published somewhere

00:09:45and I missed it.

00:09:46There were some

00:09:47very big races

00:09:48at Newmarket.

00:09:49Yeah, he won a group one.

00:09:50He won the Middle Park.

00:09:52Yeah.

00:09:53All right.

00:09:55Hey, anyone can ride

00:09:56Rebel's Romance, right?

00:09:58Bill can even ride

00:10:00Rebel's Romance.

00:10:00He's not hard to ride.

00:10:02You put him on the lead

00:10:03and you sit there.

00:10:05Is it going too slow?

00:10:06You just let him out a notch.

00:10:08Bill could easily

00:10:08have done that.

00:10:10If I rode him,

00:10:12has any jockey in history

00:10:13ever been 75 pounds

00:10:14overweight?

00:10:16To Frankie de Tori's credit,

00:10:18you know,

00:10:19he looked at the past performances,

00:10:20didn't see a lot

00:10:21of early speed,

00:10:22said he reached out

00:10:23to the Charlie Appleby people

00:10:25and said,

00:10:25hey, look,

00:10:26there's not much speed in here.

00:10:27You know,

00:10:28would you be okay

00:10:30if I put him on the lead

00:10:31if the situation develops

00:10:32that way and nobody goes?

00:10:34And they're like,

00:10:35hey,

00:10:35use your own best judgment.

00:10:37William Buick told him

00:10:38that,

00:10:39you know,

00:10:39the horse would be just fine

00:10:40on the lead

00:10:41if that's the way

00:10:42the race developed.

00:10:43And,

00:10:44obviously,

00:10:45he was.

00:10:46I mean,

00:10:46what a neat horse he is

00:10:48and he gets a chance

00:10:49now to win,

00:10:50what,

00:10:51if all goes well,

00:10:52if he stays sound,

00:10:53become the first horse

00:10:54ever to win

00:10:54three Breeders' Cup turfs.

00:10:56Wow.

00:10:57He's amazing.

00:10:58Yeah,

00:10:58he's something else.

00:10:59Speaking of something else,

00:11:00how about Bob Baffert,

00:11:02the weekend he had

00:11:03and the biggest win

00:11:04came in the Goodwood.

00:11:06And,

00:11:06you know,

00:11:06you're not used to seeing

00:11:07this Baffert winning

00:11:08with,

00:11:08you know,

00:11:0910 to 1,

00:11:098 to 1,

00:11:109 to 1 shots.

00:11:11I don't recall exactly

00:11:12what Nevada Beach was,

00:11:14but he was not the favorite.

00:11:15So,

00:11:16this was Baffert's weekend

00:11:17and we can talk more

00:11:18about the individual races.

00:11:19In the Zenyatta Stakes,

00:11:21he runs 1-2

00:11:21with Cavallari and Ricci.

00:11:23Cavallari is undefeated

00:11:25in five starts,

00:11:26obviously now heads

00:11:27to the Breeders' Cup

00:11:29Distaff.

00:11:31Nevada Beach,

00:11:31who was just a 3-year-old,

00:11:33I didn't give him

00:11:33any chance in the Goodwood,

00:11:35thought he was

00:11:35high enough

00:11:36more than he could chew.

00:11:38He wins that race

00:11:39for Bob Baffert,

00:11:39will be going now

00:11:40in the Breeders' Cup Classic.

00:11:41And to top it off,

00:11:43Imagination

00:11:43wins the Santa Anita Sprint.

00:11:46So,

00:11:47he has another one

00:11:48going for

00:11:48the Breeders' Cup Sprint.

00:11:51But,

00:11:51you know,

00:11:52it's typical of Baffert

00:11:54to have a big weekend

00:11:55like this,

00:11:56but I think

00:11:57he's going to be

00:11:58very strong

00:11:59in the Breeders' Cup.

00:12:00Huge weekend

00:12:01for Baffert.

00:12:02Four win-in-your-ins.

00:12:04Tim Yachtin,

00:12:04of course,

00:12:05got the other one

00:12:05with Johannes,

00:12:07but Bob winning

00:12:08the other three

00:12:09and with perhaps

00:12:10the horses

00:12:10we weren't expecting him to.

00:12:12Nevada Beach

00:12:13with Mike Smith,

00:12:14terrific ride by Mike,

00:12:15just putting this horse

00:12:16just off the pace.

00:12:18Cavallari coming off

00:12:19a six-month layoff

00:12:21and basically

00:12:21jumping up in the air

00:12:23at the start,

00:12:24losing all chance,

00:12:25getting a terrific ride

00:12:27under Juan Hernandez.

00:12:29I mean,

00:12:29you've got to think

00:12:29that she's probably

00:12:30going to wind up

00:12:31to be the favorite,

00:12:33wouldn't you say,

00:12:33in the distaff?

00:12:35Her torpedo Anna.

00:12:37Yeah,

00:12:37it depends what

00:12:37torpedo Anna does

00:12:38in the spinster.

00:12:39It really does.

00:12:40So,

00:12:40she was terrific.

00:12:41And then Imagination.

00:12:42I interviewed Bob.

00:12:43I said,

00:12:44I don't have

00:12:45an imagination

00:12:45that big

00:12:46to imagine

00:12:47this horse

00:12:47even winning.

00:12:48How the hell

00:12:49did that happen?

00:12:51Poor Mark Glant

00:12:51was shaking his head

00:12:52afterwards

00:12:53with Dr. Venkman

00:12:54and he was like,

00:12:55how did that happen?

00:12:57He goes,

00:12:57I just,

00:12:58I don't understand.

00:12:59How did that happen?

00:13:00My horse ran his race

00:13:01and he seconded

00:13:02to the horse

00:13:02I wasn't worried about.

00:13:04I mean,

00:13:04you're always worried

00:13:05about Bob,

00:13:05but that horse

00:13:06got bet down.

00:13:07He went off

00:13:07at five to one.

00:13:09So,

00:13:10I mean,

00:13:11did you think

00:13:11he had a shot,

00:13:12Randy?

00:13:13Not really.

00:13:13No.

00:13:14No,

00:13:14I didn't think

00:13:15he had a shot.

00:13:15And,

00:13:15you know,

00:13:16Bob's also got,

00:13:17you know,

00:13:17waiting in the wings.

00:13:18Of course,

00:13:19he's got Hope Road

00:13:20who will be one

00:13:21of the leading contenders

00:13:22along with Copion

00:13:23and Sweet Azteca

00:13:24and the Philly Mare Sprint.

00:13:25And then that doesn't

00:13:26even count as two-year-olds

00:13:27that we'll be talking

00:13:28about coming up

00:13:29in the American Pharaoh

00:13:29and the Oakley

00:13:30this weekend.

00:13:31So,

00:13:31the wide-haired guy

00:13:33is loaded

00:13:34for the Breeders' Cup

00:13:35this year.

00:13:36Good to be Bob.

00:13:37So,

00:13:37I want to mention

00:13:38also the Lucas Classic.

00:13:39It's a grade two race,

00:13:41but it was nice

00:13:41to see Mystic Dan

00:13:42get back into

00:13:43the winner's circle.

00:13:44Francisco Arrieta,

00:13:45the substitute rider,

00:13:46I thought he rode

00:13:47a really good race.

00:13:48He had their horse

00:13:49really in tight

00:13:50in the stretch

00:13:51and he kind of just,

00:13:52you know,

00:13:52motored his way

00:13:53through those tight quarters.

00:13:56Is he good enough

00:13:57to win the Breeders' Cup Classic?

00:14:00Probably not,

00:14:01but he's good enough

00:14:02to win a grade two

00:14:04and an important race.

00:14:06That's kind of his level.

00:14:07Kenny McPeak

00:14:07has managed him very well,

00:14:09but I've always liked

00:14:10this horse

00:14:11and feel bad

00:14:12for Brian Hernandez.

00:14:13He's already lost him

00:14:14and now he's going to lose

00:14:15Torpedo Anna

00:14:16and the Spinster

00:14:17on Sunday

00:14:17with the substitute riders

00:14:19going to be Flavio and Pratt.

00:14:20But,

00:14:21congratulations

00:14:22to the whole team

00:14:23behind Mystic Dan.

00:14:26He didn't have

00:14:27the best trip

00:14:27and won anyway.

00:14:29Disarmed finishes well

00:14:31when he's running

00:14:32one of his better races,

00:14:33which he did

00:14:34in the Lucas Classic

00:14:36and Mystic Dan

00:14:38just outfinished him

00:14:39and caught him

00:14:39from behind.

00:14:40For a Kentucky Derby winner,

00:14:42this is a horse

00:14:42that's been sort of

00:14:43lost in the shuffle

00:14:44in the classic conversation.

00:14:46Everybody wants

00:14:47to talk about it,

00:14:48and rightfully so,

00:14:49about sovereignty

00:14:49and journalism

00:14:50and fierceness

00:14:51in Sierra Leone

00:14:52and Mindframe,

00:14:53Forever Young,

00:14:55who runs Wednesday

00:14:56in Japan

00:14:57in his prep race

00:14:58for the Breeders' Cup Classic.

00:14:59So Mystic Dan

00:15:00just hasn't been

00:15:02very much

00:15:04in the classic

00:15:04conversation so far

00:15:06and maybe he will

00:15:08be a little bit now,

00:15:09but I agree with you,

00:15:10Bill.

00:15:10I think he's

00:15:11going to be

00:15:12at least 10 to 1,

00:15:14I would think,

00:15:15in the Breeders' Cup Classic

00:15:16and maybe he was

00:15:17higher than that.

00:15:1710 to 1,

00:15:18yeah.

00:15:19Yeah.

00:15:20I think he might

00:15:21go to the Dirt Mile.

00:15:22I mean,

00:15:23it'd be a different

00:15:24kettle of fish

00:15:25if we were running

00:15:26the race at Churchill Downs,

00:15:27but we're not,

00:15:28but what a gutsy

00:15:29little horse he is.

00:15:30Thank God he's so narrow.

00:15:32I literally watched

00:15:33the race with my hands

00:15:34over my eyes

00:15:35because I'm like,

00:15:36he's getting engulfed

00:15:37and how is he

00:15:38getting through that?

00:15:38And it was just like

00:15:39there was a concertina

00:15:40on Mystic Dan

00:15:42that kept closing the door

00:15:43and his little body

00:15:45kept opening it.

00:15:46It was amazing to watch

00:15:48and if you haven't seen it,

00:15:49you need to go back

00:15:50and watch it.

00:15:51Watch the head on too.

00:15:52My God.

00:15:53So coming up now

00:15:54is part one

00:15:55of two-part interview

00:15:57with Terry Bradshaw.

00:15:59That's coming up

00:15:59and then we'll be back

00:16:00to talking about the races.

00:16:02But listen in,

00:16:03this is a real fun interview

00:16:04from a real fun guy.

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00:16:41Dear racing fans,

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00:17:07Love,

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00:17:08The fastest horse

00:17:11of the week

00:17:12brought to you

00:17:12by the Fast Sires

00:17:14at Windstar Farm

00:17:15and the spotlight

00:17:15this week

00:17:16is on Constitution.

00:17:18I did a Google search

00:17:19in AI mode

00:17:20which told me

00:17:21that Constitution

00:17:22has had 40

00:17:23graded stakes

00:17:24winners worldwide.

00:17:25I don't know how much

00:17:25you can trust AI

00:17:26when it comes to horse racing,

00:17:28but it's a pretty

00:17:29healthy number

00:17:30and that number

00:17:31is growing.

00:17:32Constitution picked up

00:17:33his latest graded winner

00:17:34in the Vosburg

00:17:35over the weekend.

00:17:36Grade 3,

00:17:37Patriot Spirit

00:17:38took that win

00:17:39in your end race

00:17:40for the Breeders' Cup Sprint.

00:17:42Congratulations,

00:17:43by the way,

00:17:43to Patriot Spirit's

00:17:44breeder,

00:17:45Blue Heaven Farm

00:17:46and owner,

00:17:47George Mellon.

00:17:49Fastest horse of the week

00:17:49we've talked about

00:17:50in Rebels Romance.

00:17:52106 buyer speed figure

00:17:54taking it from gate to wire

00:17:56in the Joe Hirsch

00:17:56and Rebels Romance,

00:17:57as we said,

00:17:58will almost certainly

00:17:59be a very solid favorite

00:18:01in the Breeders' Cup Tour.

00:18:02Well, we have a special

00:18:09Gainesway guest of the week.

00:18:11You know him from his play

00:18:12on the football field,

00:18:13being in the NFL Hall of Fame

00:18:15and also his work

00:18:15on Fox NFL broadcast.

00:18:18But you might get to start

00:18:19to know him as a possible owner

00:18:20of a Breeders' Cup horse.

00:18:22This is none other than

00:18:23Terry Bradshaw,

00:18:24who was obviously

00:18:25very excited about the win

00:18:27by Taken by Wind

00:18:28in the Pocahontas Stakes.

00:18:30Terry, I want to back up

00:18:31a little bit, though.

00:18:31You were very involved

00:18:33in the quarter horse business

00:18:34for a very long time.

00:18:37You've owned a couple of...

00:18:38I still am.

00:18:39Okay, you still am.

00:18:40You own part of Mission Impassible.

00:18:42You own part of Gradar.

00:18:44Now you have Taken by the Wind.

00:18:45Where did this affinity

00:18:46for horses come from?

00:18:49I grew up...

00:18:50I spent most of my time

00:18:52on my grandfather's farm

00:18:53and he had Clydesdales

00:18:54and I used to sit on top of him

00:18:56while he plowed.

00:18:57And the smell of the horse sweat

00:18:59was something.

00:18:59It was like perfume to me.

00:19:01I thought it was the coolest thing.

00:19:02And I was always down there

00:19:04loving on them

00:19:04and crawling on them.

00:19:06And my uncles

00:19:07were all cutting horse riders.

00:19:09They all rode cutting horses.

00:19:12So that's, you know,

00:19:13it's kind of like a kid.

00:19:14Introduce them

00:19:14to a bunch of stuff

00:19:15and they'll pick what they like

00:19:16and I picked horses.

00:19:17It's just a natural thing for me.

00:19:19So with cutting horses,

00:19:21you were obviously raised

00:19:22around the quarter horse breed.

00:19:25Right.

00:19:25What some people don't realize

00:19:27is that you've actually had

00:19:28a Kentucky Derby starter.

00:19:30Yes.

00:19:30Mission Impossible.

00:19:32You also own Gradar

00:19:34through your association

00:19:35with your Louisiana Tech buddy,

00:19:37Steve Davison

00:19:38and Twin Creeks Racing.

00:19:39But then you got out

00:19:41to focus primarily

00:19:42on raising quarter horses

00:19:44of all kinds,

00:19:45not just racing quarter horses.

00:19:46And now you're back.

00:19:47What, why the return now

00:19:49to Thoroughbreds?

00:19:53Randy, I got a call.

00:19:55I watch all the,

00:19:57I watch 602 all the time.

00:20:02Thoroughbreds channel

00:20:03and it's all, it's racing.

00:20:07And I never really got out of it mentally.

00:20:10I got of it physically

00:20:11and then I always wanted

00:20:13to get back in,

00:20:14but I didn't really,

00:20:16I could easily have done that.

00:20:19And I'd actually called Steve Davison

00:20:20and said, Steve,

00:20:22I've done this horse,

00:20:24the quarter horse thing.

00:20:25I've got my stallion business going.

00:20:27I said, you know what?

00:20:28I'm a little bored.

00:20:29I need to get that,

00:20:31some action back.

00:20:32And I said,

00:20:33what do you got

00:20:34that I can buy into?

00:20:35And to his,

00:20:37to his credit,

00:20:38he said,

00:20:39you know,

00:20:39I really don't have anything

00:20:41that I would want you

00:20:42and I to be in.

00:20:44And I said,

00:20:45well,

00:20:45yeah,

00:20:45I appreciated that.

00:20:47And then,

00:20:48Kirk Menefee

00:20:49and I got together

00:20:50and Kirk was telling me

00:20:53what a great,

00:20:54because Fox does

00:20:54the Belmont.

00:20:55And Kirk said,

00:20:57you got to meet this Kenny McPete.

00:21:00He's,

00:21:00he,

00:21:01you and him would hit it off.

00:21:02You guys are just alike.

00:21:04I said,

00:21:04really?

00:21:05Yes.

00:21:06Yeah.

00:21:06And then he won with Mystic Dan.

00:21:08He won the Kentucky Derby

00:21:10and Thor,

00:21:12Thorpedo Annie.

00:21:13And I went,

00:21:15oh,

00:21:16really?

00:21:17And so

00:21:17I called Kenny

00:21:20and said,

00:21:21you know,

00:21:23Kirk and I want to buy

00:21:24a horse together.

00:21:25And so we bought

00:21:26one.

00:21:30Kenny sent us a list of eight

00:21:32and we picked out

00:21:33one stud

00:21:34Power Aura.

00:21:37And then I picked out

00:21:38two more fillies

00:21:39because I'm really into fillies.

00:21:40I don't really want the studs

00:21:42because the studs

00:21:42aren't really great.

00:21:44You can't stand them at studs.

00:21:46They got to win

00:21:47one of the big three

00:21:48or they've got to

00:21:49be like handy ride,

00:21:50you know,

00:21:51sweep everything.

00:21:52But he did win

00:21:53the Belmont.

00:21:54So it was

00:21:55or

00:21:57I decided,

00:21:59you know,

00:21:59I want the fillies

00:22:00and I had no reason

00:22:01for picking,

00:22:02you know,

00:22:02taken by the wind.

00:22:03She was just there

00:22:04and I liked the name.

00:22:05That's the only reason.

00:22:06Never saw the horse.

00:22:07Still haven't seen her.

00:22:08Don't even know

00:22:09what she looks like.

00:22:10So that's how I did it.

00:22:12And so I said to Kurt,

00:22:13I said,

00:22:13Kurt,

00:22:14isn't that the best way

00:22:15Randy to do it?

00:22:16So I said,

00:22:16Kurt,

00:22:17you want to end on

00:22:17I got,

00:22:18I bought this,

00:22:18I bought two fillies.

00:22:19He said,

00:22:20no,

00:22:21no,

00:22:21no.

00:22:21I just want to do one.

00:22:23So I bought those two fillies

00:22:25and then I'm in on

00:22:25eight more yearlings

00:22:27this year.

00:22:30So it's exciting.

00:22:32I understand the game.

00:22:34I know

00:22:34win or lose

00:22:36horses,

00:22:37you know,

00:22:37they either run

00:22:38or they don't

00:22:38or they get hurt

00:22:39and so on and so forth.

00:22:40And it was just

00:22:42the excitement

00:22:42of being back

00:22:43in the thoroughbred business

00:22:45and then taken

00:22:46by the wind.

00:22:47Come on.

00:22:48Did I expect her to win?

00:22:51I can't say no.

00:22:52I'll tell you exactly.

00:22:53No,

00:22:54no.

00:22:56And just kind of like

00:22:57with Terry Bradshaw

00:22:58was not going to win

00:22:59anything like that,

00:22:59although I was successful

00:23:00with Mission

00:23:01and Gradar.

00:23:03But then it got fun

00:23:05and then she won

00:23:06the stakes rakes,

00:23:07the Pocahontas.

00:23:08And the way she ran

00:23:10on that race

00:23:10and I was watching

00:23:11and told my wife,

00:23:12look how easy

00:23:12she's running.

00:23:13I mean,

00:23:13she's not even tired.

00:23:15And then coming out

00:23:16of turn four

00:23:17and she split them

00:23:18and just turned it on,

00:23:20you know,

00:23:20and she has that

00:23:21distance in her pedigree

00:23:23and I went,

00:23:25wow.

00:23:25And that got me excited.

00:23:26I don't mind telling you.

00:23:27And I couldn't wait

00:23:29to tell Kurt,

00:23:30hey, Kurt,

00:23:30you know,

00:23:30made a little money yesterday.

00:23:35So,

00:23:36I mean,

00:23:36that's a long story,

00:23:37but it was just,

00:23:39let's do it

00:23:40just for fun.

00:23:41That's all it was.

00:23:42Terry,

00:23:42before we get back

00:23:43to horses,

00:23:43we want to know

00:23:44what are those

00:23:45bird-like noises

00:23:46in the background?

00:23:48You're so smart.

00:23:50Birds.

00:23:52They're birds.

00:23:54They're macaws

00:23:56and they are loud.

00:23:59I mean,

00:23:59they,

00:24:00right now,

00:24:00we're catching a break

00:24:02but this is where

00:24:02I do podcasts

00:24:03and,

00:24:04you know,

00:24:05they're over

00:24:07grooming themselves

00:24:07right now

00:24:08but they are some

00:24:09loud suckers.

00:24:09You're right.

00:24:11But they're birds.

00:24:12Were they squawking

00:24:14when you watched the race?

00:24:15I take it,

00:24:15did you watch the race

00:24:16from home,

00:24:17Terry?

00:24:18The Pocahontas?

00:24:22No,

00:24:23I was on the road.

00:24:25I think

00:24:27we were in

00:24:29New York

00:24:30and I called

00:24:34Kenny

00:24:34and Kenny said,

00:24:36I said,

00:24:36Kenny,

00:24:36when does the mare race?

00:24:38And he said,

00:24:39six minutes.

00:24:40So we had

00:24:41six minutes.

00:24:42So we put it on

00:24:44and,

00:24:45you know,

00:24:46hey,

00:24:46Randy,

00:24:47you guys have been

00:24:47in this business

00:24:48for so long.

00:24:50It,

00:24:51I wasn't

00:24:52expecting anything

00:24:55and then

00:24:56she was right in the pack.

00:24:57It was all clustered up

00:24:59and she was just sitting there

00:25:00about fifth

00:25:00and running easy.

00:25:02I thought,

00:25:02look,

00:25:03how easy she looked

00:25:05coming out of turn three.

00:25:07She's still right

00:25:08where she was,

00:25:09not straining,

00:25:10not doing anything.

00:25:11And then she came out

00:25:12of turn four.

00:25:13She made her move

00:25:14and I went,

00:25:14you've got to be kidding me.

00:25:16I said,

00:25:17Tammy,

00:25:17we're going to win this thing.

00:25:19And then it got exciting

00:25:20down the stretch

00:25:21and she just bolted

00:25:23and just kept going.

00:25:24And I was like,

00:25:25wow,

00:25:26that is so cool.

00:25:27So you only had

00:25:28a six minute warning

00:25:30before the race started.

00:25:31Did you even have time

00:25:32to get a bet down?

00:25:34No,

00:25:35I don't.

00:25:35Hey,

00:25:35Randy,

00:25:35I don't bet.

00:25:37I don't bet.

00:25:38I don't gamble.

00:25:38Well,

00:25:39that's not true.

00:25:40Steve and I do,

00:25:41when I'm with Steve,

00:25:42I put $500 in

00:25:44and it's like,

00:25:47okay,

00:25:48when I lose it,

00:25:50you know,

00:25:50I'm through.

00:25:51And it's like,

00:25:52well,

00:25:52why you always got to lose?

00:25:54Well,

00:25:54it's thoroughbred racing

00:25:55and I don't know

00:25:55how to handicap these things.

00:25:57And Steve's pretty good at it.

00:25:58He owns the Ragason.

00:26:00You know,

00:26:00he owns that paper

00:26:01and he's pretty good.

00:26:04And we won like,

00:26:06in the first two races

00:26:07at Churchill,

00:26:08he and I,

00:26:08he picked them.

00:26:10We won the first two.

00:26:11We pocketed about $3,000 a piece.

00:26:14And I went,

00:26:15wow,

00:26:15I am,

00:26:16I'm through for the day.

00:26:18And then we,

00:26:19he said,

00:26:20let's do a trifecta.

00:26:22And I said,

00:26:23I don't know how you do a trifecta.

00:26:25We won $50,000 on the trifecta.

00:26:28$50,000.

00:26:31Now here's the kicker.

00:26:32Here's the kicker.

00:26:34I am so beside myself.

00:26:36I've made so much money

00:26:38on three,

00:26:39on four or five races.

00:26:42And every time we won,

00:26:43we'd go to the window

00:26:44and get the cash,

00:26:45right?

00:26:46On $1,800.

00:26:47We went and got the cash.

00:26:50Two thousand.

00:26:51We went and got the cash.

00:26:52The $50,000,

00:26:54I had a mare out of Indian Charlie.

00:26:57And she was,

00:26:59she was saddling in the paddock.

00:27:01And Steve said,

00:27:02let's go,

00:27:03let's go watch him

00:27:04saddle our mare for the race.

00:27:06We got a big race coming up.

00:27:08And I said,

00:27:08no,

00:27:09no,

00:27:09no.

00:27:09Let's go get the $50,000.

00:27:11He says,

00:27:12well,

00:27:12we'll get it on the way back.

00:27:13I said,

00:27:13no,

00:27:14no,

00:27:14no.

00:27:14Let's go get the money right now.

00:27:16If we get $1,800,

00:27:18surely you'll go get 50,000,

00:27:20right?

00:27:21So he said,

00:27:22no.

00:27:22So I thought,

00:27:22okay,

00:27:22so we go down and watch her.

00:27:24We watch her get saddled up

00:27:26and then she gets last in the race.

00:27:28And I didn't care

00:27:28because I'm working with 50 grand.

00:27:30We go back to the windows.

00:27:32Steve's doing this.

00:27:33Oh no.

00:27:37Oh no.

00:27:37Lost it.

00:27:38Lost the ticket.

00:27:40Lost the $50,000 ticket.

00:27:43Lost it.

00:27:44And I'm sitting there and I'm going,

00:27:46what,

00:27:46what happened?

00:27:47What's up?

00:27:48He goes,

00:27:49I don't have,

00:27:50I can't find the ticket.

00:27:51I said,

00:27:51what do you mean you can't find it?

00:27:52Where'd you put it?

00:27:53He said,

00:27:53I think I put it in my pocket,

00:27:55my shirt pocket.

00:27:56I went,

00:27:57you gotta be kidding.

00:27:58It was gone.

00:28:00He looked everywhere.

00:28:02Now,

00:28:02as you well know,

00:28:03there's tickets all over the floor.

00:28:05Sure.

00:28:07Impossible,

00:28:07impossible to find.

00:28:09And so,

00:28:10I was sick.

00:28:13And,

00:28:13Steve,

00:28:15to his credit,

00:28:16traced it,

00:28:18went back to the machine,

00:28:20gave the number,

00:28:21the credit card number,

00:28:22something.

00:28:23He had a suite at church where it was down.

00:28:25And they,

00:28:26they redid eight,

00:28:27well anyway,

00:28:28eight months later,

00:28:29we got our money.

00:28:30Oh,

00:28:31okay.

00:28:32You know,

00:28:33they traced it back to the betting,

00:28:35and that's something.

00:28:36Now,

00:28:37did you,

00:28:37that was,

00:28:38that's quite,

00:28:38that's quite a story right there.

00:28:40But I,

00:28:41did you reinvest it with Kenny?

00:28:43You said you're on the hook for eight more.

00:28:46I have,

00:28:47yeah,

00:28:47Kenny got into my pocket.

00:28:51Trainers will do that,

00:28:52Kenny.

00:28:53You know that.

00:28:53You don't think,

00:28:54I don't know that.

00:28:55I got,

00:28:55listen,

00:28:55I've been showing horses here for 40 something years,

00:29:00and we're at a big show right now.

00:29:02And I know,

00:29:04but I,

00:29:05but I do all the buying for the quarters.

00:29:07I'm,

00:29:07I'm not worried about that.

00:29:08And I hired the trainer,

00:29:09but Kenny basically,

00:29:12you know,

00:29:12they sit there and you take the money.

00:29:16I,

00:29:16I told him,

00:29:17I said,

00:29:17here,

00:29:17here's X amount of dollars that you have.

00:29:21And he says,

00:29:22you know,

00:29:22he thinks,

00:29:23and I'm Tom Brady.

00:29:24And as y'all know,

00:29:26I didn't make that kind of money when I played the most I made was $300,000.

00:29:30Well,

00:29:31they make that in the first quarter,

00:29:34these quarterbacks nowadays.

00:29:36And so I said,

00:29:37now here's my wife's going,

00:29:39Oh,

00:29:40we're building a house and you're taking this money.

00:29:43And I said,

00:29:44Hey,

00:29:44you know,

00:29:45we're going to be good.

00:29:47We're going to be good.

00:29:47It's going to be fine.

00:29:48And so I told Kenny,

00:29:52here's your money.

00:29:52He did overspend.

00:29:54He did by $40,000.

00:29:58He overspent by 40,000.

00:30:01And so,

00:30:01but he's kind of like,

00:30:04you know him so well,

00:30:05he's kind of like,

00:30:06okay,

00:30:06it's all right.

00:30:07It's all right,

00:30:08Kenny.

00:30:08It's okay.

00:30:09Such a big personality.

00:30:11Okay.

00:30:11It's fine.

00:30:12I don't have it,

00:30:13but it's fine.

00:30:17But yeah,

00:30:17we're back in.

00:30:18And then,

00:30:18you know,

00:30:20it's just fun.

00:30:22You know,

00:30:22I'm excited about,

00:30:24I'm 70,

00:30:26I'm 77 years old and I,

00:30:28I need that rush.

00:30:30I don't can't play in the quarter horses while our stallions have been winning for years.

00:30:35And our produce had done really well.

00:30:37This is a different game,

00:30:40you know,

00:30:41so maybe go to the Breeders' Cup.

00:30:45Shoot.

00:30:46Maybe you win it.

00:30:47I told Kurt,

00:30:51if I get in the Breeders' Cup with my mare and we win,

00:30:55that race is on a Friday.

00:30:57Would that be correct?

00:30:58Would it be on a Friday?

00:30:59Yes.

00:30:59I won't be there on a Sunday.

00:31:01I will call in sick because I'll still be celebrating.

00:31:05Yeah.

00:31:05I won't be there.

00:31:06Where's Terry?

00:31:07He's in San Diego.

00:31:09He rented out a hotel.

00:31:11Oh my God.

00:31:17So,

00:31:18so Terry,

00:31:18look what I'm drinking.

00:31:20Look what I'm drinking out of.

00:31:22See that?

00:31:23Key.

00:31:24My wife bought me the key.

00:31:27So where are you now?

00:31:29And what have you done with all your fabulous quarter horses?

00:31:32Because I didn't actually realize you were that involved in the quarter horses.

00:31:37I looked up all your stallions.

00:31:39My favorite one is Mr.

00:31:40Hollywood.

00:31:41By the way,

00:31:42he's beautiful.

00:31:43Where are the horses now?

00:31:45He's a Bay Roan.

00:31:46He's a young horse.

00:31:47Yeah.

00:31:48They are great horses.

00:31:50The others are young horses that we have raised and are putting into the

00:31:53breeding program,

00:31:55but we'll sell a lot of those.

00:31:57But right now there's a massive show going on in Fort Worth called the

00:32:01WCHA World Confirmation Horse Association.

00:32:05It's huge.

00:32:06A lot of money.

00:32:07And yesterday my two-year-old mare got second,

00:32:15got reserved by a horse called Speechless,

00:32:19one of our great young stallions.

00:32:21And then the mare that won it is by Speechless.

00:32:24So I went one and two.

00:32:26And that's pretty amazing.

00:32:27We've won about,

00:32:28I don't know,

00:32:30eight or nine world titles already at this show.

00:32:34So our breeding program is pretty solid for the quarter horses.

00:32:37And I stand at a running horse that we use for ranch.

00:32:42We're breeding him for ranch running.

00:32:43I actually,

00:32:44I took two thoroughbred mares that Kenny had that couldn't run and I'm

00:32:50breeding them to him and I may win the All-American.

00:32:54You never know.

00:32:55Wow.

00:32:56Do you show them yourself?

00:32:57So yeah,

00:32:57we're still heavily involved in quarter horses.

00:33:00Do you show them yourself?

00:33:01Can we see Terry Bradshaw trotting down,

00:33:04showing them?

00:33:05It's awesome.

00:33:07Well,

00:33:08you can.

00:33:10Yeah,

00:33:10you can't at the world show in November.

00:33:12My wife and I,

00:33:13my whole family shows horses.

00:33:15My granddaughter's already got six world titles.

00:33:17She's amazing.

00:33:18My wife's way better shore than me because she's,

00:33:21it's that woman's touch,

00:33:23that patience.

00:33:26She's just so cool and calm.

00:33:27Me,

00:33:28I'm on the,

00:33:28I'm on the muscle or on the bid or whatever you call it.

00:33:31I'm sweating.

00:33:32And you know,

00:33:33like I'm focused and dialed in.

00:33:35I don't want that horse to act up.

00:33:37And when he does,

00:33:38I just perspire.

00:33:40She's just calm and cool and excellent.

00:33:44But the whole family shows the whole family shows,

00:33:47which is fine.

00:33:48Yeah.

00:33:49Terry,

00:33:49you are a cowboy.

00:33:51A lot of people don't realize that.

00:33:53Well,

00:33:55I,

00:33:56yeah,

00:33:56I'm in the Angus business too.

00:33:58We raise Angus cattle.

00:33:59So yeah,

00:34:00I'm,

00:34:01I grew,

00:34:03I grew up and became a cowboy.

00:34:05Then a football took over.

00:34:07But I got right into ranching once in 1971,

00:34:11I bought 400 acres in Louisiana and went into commercial cattle business.

00:34:15And then I wrote a,

00:34:16a cutting horse called storm out of stormy day more about 14,

00:34:21two.

00:34:21So I was always in the cattle business,

00:34:25always riding horses,

00:34:26stuff like that.

00:34:27And yeah,

00:34:28I love that.

00:34:29You know,

00:34:29I love that.

00:34:30It's a good life,

00:34:32Randy.

00:34:32It's,

00:34:32it's just a good life.

00:34:33It's just get up early in the morning.

00:34:35You go through your livestock,

00:34:37you feed your horses in the farm,

00:34:38you check on your cattle,

00:34:40you do what you got to do.

00:34:41You round them up and so on and so forth.

00:34:44And yeah,

00:34:45it's a,

00:34:46that's,

00:34:46that's the life I enjoy.

00:34:48We'll be right back after these messages for part two of our interview with Terry Bradshaw.

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00:37:57Terry,

00:37:57the other two horses that you have with Kenny McPeak,

00:38:00what have they raced yet?

00:38:01What's the story on them?

00:38:02No,

00:38:03no power or a,

00:38:05um,

00:38:06is a stud.

00:38:07I don't know much about him because,

00:38:09uh,

00:38:11I went to,

00:38:12uh,

00:38:12Saratoga and watched him work out huge.

00:38:16My God,

00:38:17he's big.

00:38:18Uh,

00:38:18then he got hurt.

00:38:20And so he's not back in training in the Philly.

00:38:23I don't even know her name.

00:38:25Nobody even says a word about her.

00:38:27She'll probably win everything,

00:38:28but I,

00:38:29no,

00:38:29I don't,

00:38:30I don't know anything about her.

00:38:31Never seen her.

00:38:32I've not seen the only horse I've seen that I bought is power or,

00:38:36um,

00:38:38the rest,

00:38:39uh,

00:38:39haven't seen,

00:38:40haven't seen him at all.

00:38:41Well,

00:38:41I mean,

00:38:41I'm gone all the time.

00:38:43I travel all the time.

00:38:44I don't have,

00:38:44I'm not home.

00:38:46We're home probably 75 days a year.

00:38:50So,

00:38:50you know,

00:38:52he keeps saying,

00:38:53you got to come up.

00:38:53You got to come up.

00:38:54Kenny,

00:38:54I can't come up.

00:38:55You know,

00:38:56if I come up there and can,

00:38:57I'm wasting time.

00:38:58I'm not making money.

00:38:59I'm not making money.

00:39:00Then I got,

00:39:01I can't buy horses.

00:39:02You know,

00:39:03I can't do the things we enjoy doing.

00:39:05So I have not seen,

00:39:07you know,

00:39:07I wouldn't want anybody to think I'm some thoroughbred,

00:39:10you know,

00:39:11I'm not,

00:39:12I mean,

00:39:12I'm studying it,

00:39:14you know,

00:39:14I'm studying it and I love studying it.

00:39:16You know,

00:39:17such as,

00:39:18you know,

00:39:19taken by the wind.

00:39:19I mean,

00:39:20I love,

00:39:21you know,

00:39:21I looked up her,

00:39:22her side,

00:39:23her dad,

00:39:24you know,

00:39:24rock your world.

00:39:26And I looked up for grabs her mother.

00:39:28And I just studied their pedigree.

00:39:30And I went,

00:39:30Ooh,

00:39:31wow.

00:39:31Bread pretty good.

00:39:32You know,

00:39:33young,

00:39:34young stallions.

00:39:35Yeah.

00:39:35Not bad.

00:39:36So let's,

00:39:36so let's talk about that a little bit.

00:39:38I just came across a photo of you.

00:39:40Um,

00:39:41I think it was taken September 24 at the Keeneland September sale.

00:39:46And you got,

00:39:48you got your sales catalog in your hand and you are,

00:39:51you are grinning from ear to ear.

00:39:53Did I have it upside down?

00:40:00You really enjoy that,

00:40:02that part of the sport.

00:40:03Oh,

00:40:04my,

00:40:04my thrill in the horse business is breeding.

00:40:09That's why I like mares racing fillies.

00:40:13Uh,

00:40:14I love the breeding.

00:40:16That's my,

00:40:17my one thing I'm really good at is selective breeding and,

00:40:22uh,

00:40:24going to a thoroughbred sale.

00:40:25Randy,

00:40:25I've already told you,

00:40:26cause I don't know what I'm doing.

00:40:27I'm standing on the rail one year and they're walking these horses out back at the sale barn.

00:40:33I'm there for the sale and I'm watching this horse walk and I'm doing this.

00:40:38I don't even have a book and I'm watching her and I'm in the halter and performance business.

00:40:44So I'm a confirmation guy.

00:40:46Um,

00:40:47and I'm watching her walk and she comes by and I walk and Steve comes over.

00:40:51He said,

00:40:51what are you doing?

00:40:52I said,

00:40:53I'm watching that mare right there.

00:40:56She's comes back around and he gets her number.

00:40:59I said,

00:40:59she's gorgeous.

00:41:00Look at that thing.

00:41:01And I'm just watching so pretty.

00:41:04And he said,

00:41:05that's an Indian Charlie.

00:41:08I went,

00:41:09Oh,

00:41:09so that's how I felt in love with Indian Charlie.

00:41:12All right.

00:41:13And so I'm watching,

00:41:14really?

00:41:15He said,

00:41:15are you going to try to buy her?

00:41:17I said,

00:41:18yeah,

00:41:19I think I will.

00:41:20So I go in there and she was $650,000 before I even burped.

00:41:27And I'm like,

00:41:30Oh my God.

00:41:32So much for that.

00:41:37Hey,

00:41:38that's,

00:41:39that told me I had a good eye,

00:41:40you know,

00:41:41but,

00:41:41uh,

00:41:41yeah,

00:41:42yeah,

00:41:43I,

00:41:43I swear to,

00:41:44I swear to everybody that's listening.

00:41:46I look at them and I look at them as,

00:41:48as I'm in Hawker.

00:41:50I look at them as Hawker.

00:41:52I see how pretty they are.

00:41:53I can't stand ugly horse.

00:41:55And,

00:41:55uh,

00:41:57you know,

00:41:57they just have to be pretty of the horses that I just recently bought.

00:42:02All of them are attractive animals.

00:42:04You know,

00:42:04now the rest of them,

00:42:05I don't know anything about that's where,

00:42:07you know,

00:42:08Kenny does,

00:42:09you know,

00:42:10they watch him walk.

00:42:11I remember this one time,

00:42:12this friend of mine,

00:42:13we were at the sales and he says,

00:42:15look at that rascal walk.

00:42:16Oh my God.

00:42:17Look at that.

00:42:18And I went walking.

00:42:21And he says,

00:42:22God,

00:42:23try,

00:42:23try it for me.

00:42:24Oh my God.

00:42:26This thing's amazing.

00:42:28I went,

00:42:29what are you doing?

00:42:30You're walking at walk.

00:42:31And trot.

00:42:32And that's amazing.

00:42:34I didn't get it,

00:42:35but they bought it.

00:42:37They paid 400,000 for it.

00:42:38That sucker couldn't even come out of the chute.

00:42:40So much for walking and trotting.

00:42:43So I don't know.

00:42:44You know what?

00:42:45If you're,

00:42:46if it was always about money,

00:42:48if it only takes money to be successful in the thoroughbred business,

00:42:53guys like me and most of everybody could never get in it.

00:42:57And I was watching,

00:42:58is it Rapoli?

00:42:59That's a guy that's,

00:43:00I watched him the other day in the sale.

00:43:03I was reading the sales and he had spent,

00:43:06he spent like $10 million on eight horses.

00:43:10And I'm like,

00:43:11Oh my God.

00:43:13Can you imagine?

00:43:1410 million of him is 10,000 to me and 10,000.

00:43:17I'm bragging now.

00:43:18Yeah.

00:43:18But God.

00:43:20And I'm thinking,

00:43:21and I told Kenny,

00:43:22I said,

00:43:22Kenny,

00:43:22you got any billionaire partners in your,

00:43:28you got any of those billionaires?

00:43:30As I call,

00:43:31I told Kenny,

00:43:31I said,

00:43:32you're just a,

00:43:33you're just a,

00:43:34a real,

00:43:35you're kind of a working thoroughbred trainer.

00:43:38You know,

00:43:39this gets a bunch.

00:43:40He studies it.

00:43:41He's got something he looks at.

00:43:43I told him I'm going to hang out with him.

00:43:45He's going to teach me what he's doing.

00:43:47I'm not going to share it with anybody,

00:43:48but I said,

00:43:49you're doing something.

00:43:50Cause he's too successful without having all these 2 million,

00:43:55million and a half dollar horses.

00:43:56So yeah,

00:43:58if it was all about money,

00:43:59uh,

00:44:00the sheiks and everybody,

00:44:02they'd win every race and risk of us to sit back there going,

00:44:04wow,

00:44:05they're amazing.

00:44:05Wish I had,

00:44:06I wish I was making a billion dollars a day,

00:44:08but I'm not.

00:44:09So,

00:44:09but that's not the case.

00:44:11You can't look inside them.

00:44:12You don't know their heart.

00:44:13You know,

00:44:14you don't know.

00:44:16You don't know if they're going to run.

00:44:17God can.

00:44:18Hey,

00:44:18how would you like to spend $3 million on a horse?

00:44:22Bread.

00:44:23Great.

00:44:24Top and bottom.

00:44:25And it can't run a lick.

00:44:28I think I'd,

00:44:29that'd be devastating,

00:44:31but you know,

00:44:33then seem to bomb come back next year.

00:44:35Just do it all over again.

00:44:38So a little Terry Bradshaw horse racing trivia here.

00:44:41You ready,

00:44:42Terry?

00:44:43Let's have it.

00:44:44All right.

00:44:44So you had great R.

00:44:46Right.

00:44:47Who ran six times.

00:44:48A lot of people don't remember great R.

00:44:50He was a very underappreciated horse.

00:44:52He had six.

00:44:54Yeah.

00:44:55Yeah.

00:44:55One five.

00:44:56One five of the six.

00:44:58Right.

00:44:58Triple digit,

00:44:59minor speed figures galore.

00:45:00You led him into the winner's circle in the New Orleans handicap.

00:45:04Right.

00:45:05Right.

00:45:05He lost one race in his life.

00:45:08Okay.

00:45:09You remember who he lost that race to?

00:45:11No.

00:45:12Who?

00:45:13Bill Parcells.

00:45:15Oh,

00:45:18who did Bill own?

00:45:20He owned a horse called Saratoga snacks.

00:45:22That was one of his best horses that he ever owned.

00:45:26Is that right?

00:45:27That's the horse that beat great R.

00:45:29So you lost to Bill Parcells in the only,

00:45:32the only time great R got beat.

00:45:35Yeah.

00:45:35Great R was,

00:45:36Hey,

00:45:36great R was something.

00:45:38That sucker could.

00:45:39And then,

00:45:40and the,

00:45:40and if there was a knock on great R as a racehorse,

00:45:42he was a front runner.

00:45:44And the knock was,

00:45:45if you get up to him,

00:45:46he'll,

00:45:47he won't,

00:45:47he won't fight,

00:45:48you know,

00:45:49but at the,

00:45:50uh,

00:45:50Louisiana Derby or the,

00:45:52whatever they call that down there,

00:45:53we won that thing two years in a row.

00:45:54We'll also run it with mission impossible.

00:45:57Um,

00:45:58but he got,

00:45:59he lost the lead coming out of turn four and I'm sitting there and I'm like,

00:46:03Oh man.

00:46:04And then he came back and he dug in and he fought and won by half a length.

00:46:10I was like,

00:46:11God,

00:46:11that's so cool.

00:46:12That's when I,

00:46:13I,

00:46:13my one of my favorite pictures is not in here,

00:46:16but it was me leading him off the track.

00:46:19That was so cool.

00:46:20And then we thought we had,

00:46:22you know,

00:46:22he just couldn't stay.

00:46:24He couldn't stay together.

00:46:25You,

00:46:25both my horses were,

00:46:26were eligible for the Derby Preakness and so forth,

00:46:30but he,

00:46:30he stayed hurt and,

00:46:32uh,

00:46:33could,

00:46:33got ready to the breeder's cup and,

00:46:35uh,

00:46:35be one of the favorites there.

00:46:37He got hurt.

00:46:38So that was very frustrating.

00:46:40And then we sold him,

00:46:41uh,

00:46:42his breeding rights,

00:46:43to Taylor.

00:46:44Um,

00:46:45and then he just wasn't a breeding horse,

00:46:47you know?

00:46:48All right.

00:46:48So you mentioned breeder's cup.

00:46:49Let's circle this back around now.

00:46:51Okay.

00:46:52There's gotta be nothing in your world.

00:46:54Like winning the Superbowl.

00:46:55I mean,

00:46:55you won four of them.

00:46:56Right.

00:46:57Right.

00:46:57But,

00:46:57but that's gotta be the ultimate,

00:46:59the ultimate.

00:47:00Now,

00:47:00but what about winning a breeder's cup brace?

00:47:03I don't know.

00:47:05How do you think that would feel?

00:47:07I already told you,

00:47:08I'm not going to work Sunday.

00:47:13I,

00:47:13I don't,

00:47:15I'm one of those people that doesn't like to think about greatness.

00:47:22Okay.

00:47:22It scares me.

00:47:24Um,

00:47:25playing in a Superbowl,

00:47:27uh,

00:47:27I'm in charge.

00:47:28I'm in control.

00:47:30Um,

00:47:30and I'm nervous.

00:47:31Cause I don't want to screw up.

00:47:34Uh,

00:47:34I know my legacy depends on winning the Superbowl.

00:47:38And so the greatest stress I've ever had in my life was those four Superbowls.

00:47:43We won,

00:47:43um,

00:47:44the breeder's cup.

00:47:46Uh,

00:47:47I'll be there.

00:47:48If we,

00:47:49if we make it that far,

00:47:50if we get there,

00:47:51everything goes all right.

00:47:52And training goes okay.

00:47:53And,

00:47:55um,

00:47:55she makes it there.

00:47:56And I'm sure I'm going to talk myself into saying,

00:48:01look,

00:48:01this is,

00:48:02this is pretty good.

00:48:03Just getting here with a horse.

00:48:06Well,

00:48:06it is,

00:48:06it is 20 grand.

00:48:08Come on.

00:48:08$20,000.

00:48:09I'm in the breeder's cup.

00:48:11Um,

00:48:12and I'm going to talk myself into low expectations,

00:48:16I guess,

00:48:17cause I can't,

00:48:18I don't have control of this.

00:48:20So many variables come into play when you win those kinds of races.

00:48:23Uh,

00:48:24I've watched them at hall for years.

00:48:26On television.

00:48:27I've been to a couple of breeder's cup myself.

00:48:30So I'll be nervous.

00:48:33Um,

00:48:34I'll be real nervous.

00:48:36Uh,

00:48:37and then I'll be like a proud dad.

00:48:38I'll just go,

00:48:39God,

00:48:40I just hope she rose runs good and doesn't embarrass herself.

00:48:43You know?

00:48:44Um,

00:48:45I guess,

00:48:46I guess I'm going to do everything I can to diffuse the pressure.

00:48:52You know?

00:48:53Okay.

00:48:53It's just great to be here.

00:48:54Just great to be here.

00:48:55Terry.

00:48:56Cause if I do make it there,

00:48:57you know,

00:48:57the press is going to ask me.

00:48:58Oh,

00:48:59that's just a nice horse.

00:49:00She,

00:49:01you know,

00:49:01she's,

00:49:01you know,

00:49:02she's just a nice horse.

00:49:03I'm really proud of her.

00:49:04She,

00:49:04she'll try hard.

00:49:06She's a dad,

00:49:07dad,

00:49:07dad.

00:49:07And then as she's coming down the stretch,

00:49:12if she's,

00:49:13if she's up there,

00:49:16yeah,

00:49:17now I'm going to need to take four or five Xanax.

00:49:19That's when,

00:49:20that's when,

00:49:22Randy,

00:49:24listen,

00:49:25you guys,

00:49:25that is an almost unthinkable,

00:49:29unthinkable,

00:49:30unimaginable moment for me to think that I would be able to be a part of this.

00:49:37is something like that.

00:49:39And to win it,

00:49:41you know,

00:49:42I,

00:49:43I'm thinking you go,

00:49:45well,

00:49:45why not me?

00:49:47I got a good horse,

00:49:49you know,

00:49:50why not me?

00:49:51So you can see I'm already on back and forth here and there,

00:49:55but definitely,

00:49:57definitely I'm going to try to diffuse the moment so that I can just enjoy it.

00:50:03Because if not,

00:50:04I'll be in,

00:50:05you know,

00:50:05I'll be a nervous wreck.

00:50:07I just want her to run good.

00:50:08If she gets there,

00:50:09run good,

00:50:11make herself.

00:50:12She should be proud of herself.

00:50:13As you tell your kid,

00:50:14you don't ever tell your kids,

00:50:16I'm so proud of you.

00:50:17You say to your kids,

00:50:18aren't you proud of yourself?

00:50:20And then you go,

00:50:21I know I am.

00:50:22So that's psychology.

00:50:24That's how you kind of do that.

00:50:25So if she can understand me,

00:50:27I'll just say,

00:50:27aren't you proud of yourself?

00:50:28You've done good.

00:50:29Here we are.

00:50:30We made it this far.

00:50:32And you're a handsome thing.

00:50:33I hadn't never,

00:50:34you know,

00:50:34I'm,

00:50:34I'm your owner.

00:50:35I've never met you.

00:50:36And then she'll bite you,

00:50:39right?

00:50:40Yeah.

00:50:40Oh yeah.

00:50:41I remember I went up to,

00:50:42I went up to a great gradar and he's sticking his head out of his stall.

00:50:46I went,

00:50:47there's my boy.

00:50:47And I went up there and that sucker lunged at me.

00:50:49And I went,

00:50:50I know better.

00:50:53I know better.

00:50:54But that,

00:50:55I went,

00:50:56you,

00:50:57sorry,

00:50:57no good.

00:50:58You know,

00:50:59but yeah,

00:50:59yeah.

00:51:00My horses don't do that.

00:51:01My horses don't lunge and bite.

00:51:03They're,

00:51:03they're not a bread like that.

00:51:06So,

00:51:06but yeah,

00:51:07yeah.

00:51:08Fine.

00:51:08If she wins the breeders cup,

00:51:10she can bite.

00:51:10She can kick me.

00:51:11She'll show us.

00:51:12We'll get ready.

00:51:13We'll get ready for the next year.

00:51:15You know what I mean?

00:51:16That'd be fun.

00:51:18Well,

00:51:18Terry,

00:51:18we're going to let you go.

00:51:19Uh,

00:51:19it was fascinating and fun.

00:51:21And thank you so much for doing this.

00:51:23Best of luck with taken by the wind and all your pursuits with thoroughbreds.

00:51:27Hope to see you become a bigger part of the game.

00:51:28Cause you bring some life and fun to it.

00:51:31So I am.

00:51:32You know what?

00:51:33It was fun going to the sale and having,

00:51:36uh,

00:51:36and Bob Baffert.

00:51:38And,

00:51:38you know,

00:51:38I'm sitting there talking to all these guys,

00:51:40like I belong in their world.

00:51:43You know,

00:51:43there's,

00:51:44they,

00:51:44they really were nice to me.

00:51:46And as my wife always says,

00:51:48when famous people are nice to me or whatever,

00:51:51she says,

00:51:52you're Terry Bradshaw.

00:51:53And I went,

00:51:54Oh,

00:51:54what's that got to do with it?

00:51:55She said,

00:51:56you're Terry Bradshaw.

00:51:58And I went,

00:51:58I don't get it.

00:51:59You mean,

00:51:59they're just not going to be nice to everybody.

00:52:01She,

00:52:01but to know all those guys and,

00:52:06uh,

00:52:06be able to call them friends of mine and go down to the barn.

00:52:09I went down to who,

00:52:11who won the Kentucky Derby this year.

00:52:13Bring me up to speed.

00:52:14What the trainer's name,

00:52:16Bill Mott.

00:52:17Yeah.

00:52:17I said,

00:52:18I'm going to go.

00:52:18I'm yeah.

00:52:19I'm going to go see,

00:52:20I'm going to go see Bill Mott at Saratoga.

00:52:23And I said,

00:52:24where's this,

00:52:24where's this stable?

00:52:25So they took me over there.

00:52:26And I was,

00:52:27there was Bill say,

00:52:28Hey Bill,

00:52:28Terry Bradshaw.

00:52:29How are you doing,

00:52:30man?

00:52:30We started shooting the breeze,

00:52:32took the love on the horse,

00:52:33very calm horse.

00:52:36What's his name?

00:52:36What's his name again?

00:52:38Sovereignty.

00:52:39Yeah.

00:52:39Sovereignty.

00:52:39Beautiful animal.

00:52:41And,

00:52:41and,

00:52:41and it was just like,

00:52:43Oh man,

00:52:43this is cool.

00:52:44You know,

00:52:44get to walk around,

00:52:45meet all these superstar trainers.

00:52:47And then there's Kenny,

00:52:49you know,

00:52:50my man.

00:52:52So anyway,

00:52:53I hope I,

00:52:53I hope I endure and last and we have fun with it.

00:52:56We will have fun with it.

00:52:58No question about that.

00:52:59So,

00:53:00and thank,

00:53:00thank all of you for having me on this.

00:53:02I've never done anything like this.

00:53:04I've done it for the quarter horses,

00:53:05but never like this.

00:53:06So,

00:53:06I don't know if I said anything good or bad,

00:53:09or I don't know.

00:53:10You were,

00:53:11you were awesome.

00:53:12Thank you for the time.

00:53:13Mr.

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00:54:21In this week's edition of First Things First,

00:54:27I caught up with Hall of Famer Mike Smith.

00:54:35Big money, Mike.

00:54:37Winning your ring.

00:54:37Breeders' Cup Classic with your man, Bob.

00:54:39Yeah,

00:54:40ain't that something?

00:54:41I've been on the bench a while,

00:54:42but he finally pulled me off,

00:54:43and I hit a couple of threes for him,

00:54:47and things are going well,

00:54:48so maybe that'll carry over to Breeders' Cup.

00:54:50Hey, look,

00:54:50he just put me on this horse.

00:54:52I don't know if I get him back or not,

00:54:53but it's glad to fill in.

00:54:55If not,

00:54:55and hopefully I can ride him down the road.

00:54:58Tell me about your trip.

00:54:59Was that the trip you wanted?

00:55:00Did he get a bit gulky when you turned for him?

00:55:02Yeah,

00:55:03he did that,

00:55:03which gives me even a better feeling about him

00:55:05because there's room to grow, right?

00:55:06I mean,

00:55:07when he gets more focused,

00:55:08he's going to be even better.

00:55:09I thought I'd be laying a little further back.

00:55:12They didn't go very quick early,

00:55:14and when I saw Breedman ease back,

00:55:16I said,

00:55:16well,

00:55:16I'm going after him

00:55:17because someone needs to,

00:55:19and Bob told me that this horse

00:55:21was doing exceptionally well,

00:55:22so when he tells me that,

00:55:23that usually means

00:55:24I can get brave a little earlier,

00:55:25so that's what we did.

00:55:26Big Mike is back.

00:55:27Well done.

00:55:28Cheers, mate.

00:55:29Amen.

00:55:29Thanks, man.

00:55:30Yeah, buddy.

00:55:31Nice job.

00:55:37Many thanks to Mike,

00:55:38and yes,

00:55:39the band is back together,

00:55:41certainly looking forward

00:55:42to the Breeders' Cup Classic

00:55:43with Nevada Beach.

00:55:45All right,

00:55:45let's talk about Santa Anita.

00:55:47We're back racing on Friday,

00:55:48one o'clock post-time,

00:55:50nine race card on Saturday,

00:55:5210 races along with 10 races on Sunday.

00:55:55We'll have five stakes on Saturday,

00:55:58four of them graded,

00:55:59the grade one American Pharaoh,

00:56:01grade two Rodeo Drive,

00:56:03grade two Oak Leaf,

00:56:04and the grade three Chillingworth Stakes.

00:56:07So many reasons to come on out

00:56:08to Santa Anita,

00:56:09one o'clock post-time on Saturday.

00:56:11Welcome back,

00:56:13and wasn't that,

00:56:14like I said,

00:56:15I warned you,

00:56:15that was a great interview

00:56:16with Terry Bradshaw.

00:56:17Randy,

00:56:18I'm going to have to lean on you

00:56:19for some of these races

00:56:20that we're talking about

00:56:20coming up this week

00:56:21because there's no PPs out yet

00:56:23for the Breeders' Futurity,

00:56:24though I know that Ned Toffee

00:56:25will be the big favorite in there.

00:56:27Also,

00:56:27there's no PPs out yet

00:56:28for the Coolmore Turf Mile.

00:56:30I think in that,

00:56:31you've got a couple

00:56:32of very interesting

00:56:33European horses coming in,

00:56:35Diego Velasquez,

00:56:36and also,

00:56:37who is trained by Aidan O'Brien,

00:56:39by Frankel,

00:56:40Group One winner,

00:56:40and you have another horse

00:56:43that is coming in.

00:56:44What's the heck this is?

00:56:45Woodshanna.

00:56:46Woodshanna,

00:56:47that's it,

00:56:47owned by Resolute Racing

00:56:49coming off a win

00:56:50in the Pre-Jacques Le Marat.

00:56:52So,

00:56:52they're sending the A team

00:56:54for this race,

00:56:55the Europeans.

00:56:56I would think

00:56:57in some manner,

00:56:59they would kind of

00:57:00dominate the race,

00:57:01first and second,

00:57:02first and third,

00:57:03something like that.

00:57:04Randy,

00:57:04is there anyone else

00:57:05I'm missing

00:57:06that is a big factor in there?

00:57:07No,

00:57:08I think you nailed it.

00:57:09The Coolmore Mile,

00:57:10Turf Mile is,

00:57:11you know,

00:57:12Diego Velasquez

00:57:13is going to be really tough

00:57:14to beat in there,

00:57:15right?

00:57:16He ran probably

00:57:18one of,

00:57:19if not the best race

00:57:20in his career

00:57:20in his last start.

00:57:21He was sort of lucky

00:57:22to win,

00:57:23but he still got

00:57:25the job done

00:57:26against a pretty tough

00:57:26competition.

00:57:28You mentioned

00:57:29the Breeders Futurity.

00:57:31Ted Noffy

00:57:31is going to be

00:57:32a huge favorite

00:57:32in there.

00:57:33But here's a horse

00:57:34in the Breeders Futurity

00:57:35I want you to

00:57:35keep your eye on.

00:57:36If Ted Noffy

00:57:37doesn't win

00:57:38for whatever reason,

00:57:39maybe he just gets

00:57:40flat out run

00:57:41because Kenny McPeak

00:57:43has a really,

00:57:44really nice horse

00:57:45in here

00:57:46by the name

00:57:46of Blackout Time.

00:57:49Go back and watch

00:57:50if you get a chance

00:57:50his race at Churchill Downs

00:57:52his debut

00:57:52when he finished second

00:57:53and then they stretched him

00:57:54out to a mile

00:57:55at Ellis Park.

00:57:56Boy,

00:57:56did he look good.

00:57:58And I wouldn't be

00:57:59surprised at all

00:57:59for him really

00:58:00to give Ted Noffy

00:58:01a serious run

00:58:02for his money.

00:58:03So the other big race

00:58:05for two-year-olds

00:58:05over the weekend

00:58:06was actually two

00:58:07for the two-year-old males.

00:58:08We had the Champagne

00:58:09at Belmont

00:58:10but the American Pharaoh

00:58:11is out at Santa Anita

00:58:13on Saturday.

00:58:15And first of all,

00:58:15does anybody know

00:58:16I haven't heard

00:58:17Baffert's explanation

00:58:18for why Brant's

00:58:19not running in this?

00:58:20He's training him

00:58:20up to the Breeders Cup.

00:58:21Training him up

00:58:22to the Breeders Cup.

00:58:22That's for you, Bill.

00:58:23Just for you.

00:58:25Just for you.

00:58:26Just for me.

00:58:28But even without

00:58:29his best two-year-old

00:58:30in the race,

00:58:31Baffert still has

00:58:32four of the six

00:58:33starters in here.

00:58:35He's won the race

00:58:3613 times.

00:58:37He'll be going for 14.

00:58:39I think Desert Gate

00:58:40is really a standout.

00:58:42Now, he's the one

00:58:42who gave Bob Brant

00:58:43a real tough fight

00:58:45last time out

00:58:45in the Del Mar Futurity.

00:58:47Only lost to him

00:58:48by a length.

00:58:49Had some traffic problems

00:58:50along the way.

00:58:51I think he's the best

00:58:52of the Bafferts

00:58:53and I think he's the best

00:58:54in here, period.

00:58:56So it looks like

00:58:57Mr. Baffert

00:58:57is going to be

00:58:58well-represented

00:58:59in the American Pharaoh

00:59:01stakes

00:59:01and presumably also

00:59:02in the Breeders Cup

00:59:04Juvenile.

00:59:05Yeah, definitely

00:59:06the horse to beat.

00:59:07Tough trip for him

00:59:07last time

00:59:08and I'm sure

00:59:09Bob's not delighted

00:59:10with the one hole

00:59:11but hey, he's got

00:59:12half the field in there

00:59:13so I'm sure

00:59:14they can work

00:59:14something out.

00:59:16Yeah, I mean,

00:59:16I preface this real quick

00:59:18by saying that

00:59:19I think Brant

00:59:20watching his two races

00:59:21so far

00:59:22is probably better

00:59:23with a target

00:59:24than he is

00:59:25on the front end.

00:59:26He looked much

00:59:27more dynamic

00:59:27in his debut

00:59:28when he was sitting

00:59:30third than he did

00:59:30when he set the pace

00:59:31last time

00:59:33out in the Del Mar

00:59:33Futurity.

00:59:34Having said that

00:59:34I thought Desert Gate

00:59:37was the best horse

00:59:38when he was second

00:59:39to Brant

00:59:40in the Del Mar

00:59:40Futurity

00:59:41with the trip

00:59:41that he had

00:59:42compared to the trip

00:59:43that Brant had

00:59:44so yeah,

00:59:45I'm really looking forward

00:59:46to seeing Desert Gate run.

00:59:47All right,

00:59:49let's turn our attention

00:59:50now to New York

00:59:51where the Champagne

00:59:52is going

00:59:53as the seventh race

00:59:54at Aqueduct

00:59:55on Saturday

00:59:56and talk about

00:59:58heavy favorites

00:59:58and this is a

00:59:59fascinating horse.

01:00:01I mean,

01:00:01talk about jumping

01:00:02off the page.

01:00:03It's our time.

01:00:04One time out

01:00:05at Saratoga

01:00:06wins by 17

01:00:07and three quarter lengths.

01:00:10It's a 94

01:00:10buyer figure

01:00:12unless he regresses

01:00:14or somebody jumps up

01:00:15by proves

01:00:17by 10 lengths.

01:00:18This race should be

01:00:18absolutely no contest.

01:00:21Tom Amos

01:00:21picks this race

01:00:22the one turn mile

01:00:23over the Breeders

01:00:24Futurity

01:00:25at Keeneland

01:00:27but,

01:00:28you know,

01:00:29this looks like

01:00:30a very exciting horse

01:00:31and I can't see

01:00:32him losing this.

01:00:33He's certainly

01:00:33the horse to beat

01:00:34in there.

01:00:35Watch out for

01:00:35Napoleon Solo.

01:00:37He won a

01:00:38restricted maiden

01:00:39very nicely

01:00:40indeed a son

01:00:41of Liam's map

01:00:41and then talking

01:00:42we'll do some

01:00:43running late

01:00:44for Danny Gargan

01:00:45but it's definitely

01:00:46his race to lose.

01:00:48The two-year-old

01:00:49Phillies,

01:00:50you know,

01:00:50also are going

01:00:51to be front

01:00:51and center

01:00:52with the

01:00:53Frazette

01:00:54in New York.

01:00:54I think Carmel

01:00:55Coast is probably

01:00:56the horse

01:00:56to beat there

01:00:57and then the

01:00:57Alcibiades

01:00:58the same thing

01:00:59at Keeneland.

01:01:01Tommy Joe

01:01:02is sort of

01:01:04the female

01:01:04mirror image

01:01:06of Ted Noffy.

01:01:08They're both

01:01:08owned by

01:01:08Spind Thrift Farm.

01:01:09They're both

01:01:09trained by Todd

01:01:10Plutcher.

01:01:11They're both

01:01:11by Into Mischief.

01:01:12They're both

01:01:13two for two

01:01:14lifetime

01:01:14they both

01:01:15ran toward

01:01:16the end

01:01:16of July

01:01:17the first

01:01:17week in

01:01:17August

01:01:18in Saratoga

01:01:18then came

01:01:19back at

01:01:19the end

01:01:19to run

01:01:20the hopeful

01:01:21and spin

01:01:21away

01:01:21respectively.

01:01:23Ted Noffy's

01:01:23won his two

01:01:23races by a total

01:01:24of ten lengths

01:01:25Tommy Joe

01:01:25by ten and

01:01:26a quarter

01:01:26lengths.

01:01:27It's like

01:01:28they're almost

01:01:29identical

01:01:30twins.

01:01:31Twins.

01:01:31The twins.

01:01:32The twins.

01:01:32The ones

01:01:32of Philly.

01:01:34Hey, did

01:01:34anybody notice

01:01:35that I got

01:01:35the name

01:01:36right this

01:01:36week?

01:01:36I didn't

01:01:37call him

01:01:38Ned Toffy.

01:01:40So after I

01:01:41struggled for

01:01:42about 15

01:01:43minutes the

01:01:43first time

01:01:44that came

01:01:44up.

01:01:45But Randy,

01:01:46you're certainly

01:01:46right about

01:01:47Tommy Joe and

01:01:48also the whole

01:01:48Spend Thrift

01:01:49Todd Pletcher

01:01:50thing with

01:01:51Ted Noffy.

01:01:53Again,

01:01:54this looks like

01:01:55a very chalky

01:01:56race.

01:01:56Again,

01:01:57I don't

01:01:57think you're

01:01:57going to

01:01:57get much

01:01:58in the way

01:01:59of a price.

01:02:00Zoe,

01:02:01what do you

01:02:01think of

01:02:01Tommy Joe?

01:02:02She's definitely

01:02:03the horse to

01:02:04beat.

01:02:04At this point,

01:02:05I think she

01:02:05can beat

01:02:05some of the

01:02:06boys as

01:02:06well.

01:02:07So I'm

01:02:07all in on

01:02:08Tommy Joe.

01:02:09As for the

01:02:09frisette,

01:02:11I do like

01:02:12the horse

01:02:13that Randy

01:02:13mentioned,

01:02:14Carmel

01:02:14Coast,

01:02:15but I like

01:02:15Iron Orchard

01:02:16coming in for

01:02:17Danny Garg

01:02:17and the

01:02:18daughter of

01:02:18Authentic.

01:02:19New York

01:02:19Red,

01:02:19yeah.

01:02:20I like her.

01:02:21What do you

01:02:22think about

01:02:22the Oak

01:02:23Leaf?

01:02:24Baffert's

01:02:24got to

01:02:25win that

01:02:25too,

01:02:25right?

01:02:26Yes,

01:02:27most definitely.

01:02:29Explora and

01:02:30Hamika?

01:02:31I'll take

01:02:32Explora,

01:02:33but Hamika's

01:02:34going to

01:02:34love the

01:02:35stretch out.

01:02:36She wasn't

01:02:37the same

01:02:37filly when

01:02:38she ran

01:02:38last time.

01:02:40Well,

01:02:40that's my

01:02:40question.

01:02:40What's wrong?

01:02:41She looked

01:02:41so good in

01:02:42that race

01:02:42last time.

01:02:43What was

01:02:43her excuse

01:02:44or problem?

01:02:44She had a

01:02:45headache.

01:02:45I don't

01:02:45know,

01:02:46but I think

01:02:47she can

01:02:47bounce back.

01:02:49Yes,

01:02:50it figures

01:02:50to be one

01:02:51of the two

01:02:51Baffert horses

01:02:52in that as

01:02:53well.

01:02:54So,

01:02:54of course,

01:02:54I think

01:02:55someone told

01:02:55me there's

01:02:5526 graded

01:02:57stakes races

01:02:58this weekend.

01:02:59So,

01:02:59let's get

01:03:01tied on

01:03:01and enjoy

01:03:02what should

01:03:03be a

01:03:03tremendous

01:03:04weekend of

01:03:05racing the

01:03:06last big

01:03:06week of

01:03:07Breeders'

01:03:07Cup preps.

01:03:09And we'll

01:03:09know a lot

01:03:09more about

01:03:10the Breeders'

01:03:10Cup come

01:03:11Sunday.

01:03:11Well,

01:03:11actually,

01:03:12we'll have

01:03:12to wait

01:03:12until Monday

01:03:14to sort

01:03:15everything out

01:03:16because there's

01:03:17some big

01:03:17races on

01:03:18Sunday.

01:03:19I did

01:03:19notice,

01:03:19by the way,

01:03:20that Keeneland

01:03:21put out notes

01:03:22a pretty

01:03:25good job

01:03:25of telling

01:03:25who's going

01:03:26to race

01:03:27in each

01:03:27of the

01:03:28races.

01:03:28They only

01:03:29have three

01:03:29definites

01:03:30for this

01:03:30spinster.

01:03:31And,

01:03:31Randy,

01:03:32maybe you

01:03:32know better,

01:03:33Leslie's

01:03:33Rose,

01:03:34Nitrogen,

01:03:35and

01:03:35Torpedo Anna.

01:03:36It's not

01:03:37going to be a

01:03:37three-horse

01:03:37field,

01:03:38is it?

01:03:38I would

01:03:39seriously doubt

01:03:40it's going

01:03:40to be a

01:03:41three-horse

01:03:41field.

01:03:42They'll get

01:03:42a couple

01:03:42of

01:03:42scragglers

01:03:43in there

01:03:43at some

01:03:44point,

01:03:45but I

01:03:46can't see

01:03:46it being

01:03:46more than

01:03:47a five-horse

01:03:47field.

01:03:48Nobody wants

01:03:49to run

01:03:49really against

01:03:51Torpedo Anna,

01:03:52and then you

01:03:54throw Nitrogen

01:03:54in there as

01:03:55well.

01:03:56Yeah,

01:03:57I mean,

01:03:57it's going

01:03:57to be a

01:03:58short field.

01:03:59Yeah,

01:03:59well,

01:03:59Nitrogen and

01:04:00Torpedo Anna

01:04:01alone should

01:04:01be quite an

01:04:02interesting race.

01:04:04And nothing

01:04:04wrong with

01:04:05Leslie's Rose

01:04:05either,

01:04:06but I get

01:04:08so upset

01:04:09when all

01:04:09these big

01:04:09races have

01:04:10three-horses

01:04:11and the

01:04:11Woodward

01:04:12three-horse

01:04:12field,

01:04:13come on,

01:04:14folks,

01:04:14let's get

01:04:15these horses

01:04:15running and

01:04:16put them

01:04:16in these

01:04:17races.

01:04:18It is time

01:04:19for the

01:04:20First TV

01:04:20Work of

01:04:21the Week.

01:04:21The Work

01:04:22of the Week

01:04:22is brought

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01:04:24I hope Sue

01:04:25got that.

01:04:26I actually

01:04:26read it

01:04:26perfectly there.

01:04:28All right,

01:04:28let's talk

01:04:29about the

01:04:29Santa Anita

01:04:30Derby and

01:04:30Preakness

01:04:31winner.

01:04:31It was

01:04:31journalism

01:04:32who worked

01:04:33half a mile

01:04:33in company

01:04:34in 47

01:04:35seconds

01:04:36flat last

01:04:37Friday at

01:04:38Santa Anita.

01:04:39Journalism

01:04:39shared the

01:04:40bullet for

01:04:40the distance

01:04:41with his

01:04:41workmate.

01:04:42Touch of

01:04:42Destiny,

01:04:43an import

01:04:43from Uruguay

01:04:44who has

01:04:45not started

01:04:46in the

01:04:46U.S.

01:04:47He's a

01:04:47Group 3

01:04:48winner in

01:04:48South

01:04:48America.

01:04:49Touch of

01:04:49Destiny

01:04:50has worked

01:04:50four times

01:04:51since

01:04:52September

01:04:52the 1st

01:04:53and could

01:04:53well be

01:04:54pointing

01:04:54towards

01:04:55the

01:04:55Breeders'

01:04:56Cup

01:04:56mile.

01:04:57Of

01:04:57journalism,

01:04:58trainer Mike

01:04:58McCarthy

01:04:58said,

01:04:59I thought

01:05:00he worked

01:05:00well.

01:05:01It was

01:05:01just an

01:05:02easy

01:05:02half mile.

01:05:03A leg

01:05:03stretcher,

01:05:04if that's

01:05:04a leg

01:05:05stretcher,

01:05:0547

01:05:05flat.

01:05:07He was

01:05:07absolutely

01:05:07cruising.

01:05:08Journalism

01:05:09was most

01:05:09recently

01:05:10second in

01:05:11the Grade

01:05:111 Pacific

01:05:12Classic

01:05:12on August

01:05:1330th at

01:05:14Del Mar.

01:05:14He's pointed

01:05:15towards a

01:05:15Breeders'

01:05:16Cup Classic

01:05:16on November

01:05:17the 1st.

01:05:18A leg

01:05:19stretcher,

01:05:2047

01:05:20flat.

01:05:22He's a

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01:06:28Thoroughbreds.

01:06:29All these

01:06:29major stakes

01:06:30races around

01:06:30the country

01:06:31this weekend

01:06:31are big

01:06:32races in

01:06:33their own

01:06:33right,

01:06:34but they're

01:06:34also stepping

01:06:34stones to

01:06:35the Breeders'

01:06:36Cup.

01:06:36That's what

01:06:36all the

01:06:36owners,

01:06:37all the

01:06:37horse players

01:06:38right now

01:06:38are thinking

01:06:39about.

01:06:39How to

01:06:39get to

01:06:39the Breeders'

01:06:40Cup,

01:06:40West Point,

01:06:41no exception.

01:06:42This weekend

01:06:42at

01:06:43Aqueduct,

01:06:43West Point

01:06:44will have

01:06:44intricate

01:06:44spirit in

01:06:45the

01:06:45futurity

01:06:45and

01:06:46curtain

01:06:46called in

01:06:47the

01:06:47champagne.

01:06:47Meanwhile,

01:06:48at

01:06:48Keeneland

01:06:48Ewing

01:06:49goes in

01:06:50the

01:06:50Claiborne

01:06:51Breeders'

01:06:51Futurity

01:06:52and the

01:06:53old war

01:06:53mayor

01:06:53Vava

01:06:54will go

01:06:55in

01:06:55the

01:06:55Thoroughbred

01:06:56Club

01:06:57of America

01:06:57stakes.

01:07:02That's a

01:07:03wrap on

01:07:03this week's

01:07:04edition of

01:07:05the Thoroughbred

01:07:05Daily News

01:07:06podcast,

01:07:07Writer's Room

01:07:07podcast brought

01:07:08to you by

01:07:09Keeneland.

01:07:09I want to

01:07:10thank my

01:07:10co-host

01:07:11Brandy Moss

01:07:13and Zoe

01:07:13Cadman and

01:07:14especially what

01:07:15a terrific

01:07:16guest and

01:07:16so nice of

01:07:17Jerry Bradshaw

01:07:18to give us

01:07:19all that

01:07:19time.

01:07:19He was our

01:07:20Gainsway

01:07:20guest of

01:07:21the week

01:07:21and the

01:07:22people that

01:07:22work behind

01:07:23the scenes

01:07:23are really

01:07:24they're the

01:07:24real brains

01:07:25of this

01:07:25operation.

01:07:26That's Sue

01:07:26Finley,

01:07:27Katie Petruniak,

01:07:28Anthony

01:07:28LaRocca and

01:07:29Aaliyah LaRocca.

01:07:30It's going to

01:07:30be a great

01:07:31weekend of

01:07:31racing.

01:07:32Enjoy it.

01:07:32I'll talk

01:07:33to you next

01:07:33week.

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