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Oronde Gadsden talks Dolphins MNF win | concerned for Dolphins offense without Tyreek Hill
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Oronde Gadsden joins the show with his takeaways on the Dolphins win and shares the story of the ONE bubble screen that was ever called for him during his NFL career.
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00:00
Arande is on the Toyota of Hollywood hotline.
00:04
Of course, he played receiver for the Dolphins.
00:07
Arande II, his son, had a nice game for the Chargers.
00:10
Last Sunday, he was a starter, too.
00:12
Went from inactive to being a starter.
00:16
And he'll be back at it this Sunday.
00:18
Arande's with us.
00:19
Hello, OG.
00:21
Yo, what's happening?
00:23
So, what do you make of the Dolphins last night?
00:25
I asked this earlier.
00:27
Do you watch the game?
00:28
Do you watch the win?
00:29
And you say, you know what?
00:30
They're starting to put it together.
00:31
They've looked better week after week after week.
00:34
They've looked a little bit better each week.
00:36
And so, maybe they're turning a corner.
00:38
Or do you say, eh, you know what?
00:40
They were beneficiaries of playing a really bad, undisciplined Jets team.
00:48
A little bit of both, I think.
00:50
You know, obviously, you put the Jets as an 0-3 team as well out front.
00:55
But I do think in some areas, they are looking a little better than they did the last two weeks, anyway.
01:08
And so, you hope that progression continues.
01:12
You know, going to Carolina doesn't hurt.
01:14
And so, if you can string two of them together, that would be pretty cool.
01:19
But, you know, the Tyreek thing is big.
01:22
Obviously, it has to lend to a different type of, I guess, a different type of theory going into the game.
01:33
And, OG, shouldn't they lean somebody over there by Garrett Wilson or have somebody who's just one-and-a-half people or something like that?
01:41
Because it seems silly to me to leave him one-on-one with those corners.
01:46
You know, like, on a touchdown, it definitely wasn't bad, you know, bad coverage.
01:52
Just good ball beat good coverage every time.
01:54
Not every time, but, you know, eight times out of ten.
01:57
If you throw a good ball, it'll be good coverage.
02:00
Good catch.
02:00
You know, the DB was right there.
02:02
I mean, you know, I don't think – they hadn't done that, you know what I mean, the last few times they played him.
02:10
They pretty much played a man, you know, pretty much a lot and, you know, figured it out.
02:17
Like, I think last year, Ramsey played a man.
02:19
I know it was a different corner.
02:21
But they hadn't really doubled Garrett Wilson as much.
02:25
I mean, they should have doubled the line to stop the run.
02:30
You know.
02:31
Yeah.
02:32
Garrett Wilson, you know, he's a good player.
02:37
He makes plays.
02:38
It's just – you know, he didn't do anything until late, really.
02:41
I mean, the first half, he was – you know, he didn't cause a dent in the defense.
02:46
It's just that second half, he got a little loose.
02:48
But he got loose because now you're trying to stop the 80 yards that, you know, Hall and Fields get.
02:55
And, you know what I'm saying, so you got to try to stop that.
02:58
So, I mean, you know, it's – you know how it is.
03:00
It's a double-edged sword.
03:01
But, you know, offensively, I think we're finding some things out.
03:06
But now, you know, Tyreek is down.
03:08
And, you know, this still lends to my only a plan A situation.
03:14
Now that Tyreek Hill is out, you can't just say, now we're going to put Malik Washington in that spot.
03:21
Like, you know what I'm saying?
03:22
You know, now you're trying to do the same things.
03:26
It's just not going to work out the same.
03:28
You know what I mean?
03:28
Just like the speed's not the same.
03:31
You know, he's coming out of his break, not the same.
03:34
And, you know, when Tua looks to throw to him, you know, he's been throwing to Tyreek for three, four years.
03:40
Now you're going to look to throw to Malik and you're going to throw the ball and he a step too slow.
03:44
He didn't read it as you did.
03:46
But, you know, it's just, you know, unfortunately a recipe for disaster.
03:54
What do you think of the overall game plan, though, offensively, OG?
03:57
I think Tyreek goes down.
03:59
Devon Achan is by far your best player and he played well yesterday.
04:03
But even the broadcast was highlighting they had Tua on the move a lot more yesterday.
04:09
And the play design, it seemed more conducive to putting Tua in the right spots to make plays.
04:17
And I know his numbers weren't impressive yesterday.
04:20
But what do you think of just the overall game plan of having Tua kind of on those bootlegs a little bit more,
04:26
kind of rolling out a little bit more, trying to get him in better positions to make plays?
04:32
I don't like it.
04:33
I don't like it.
04:34
I don't like it one bit.
04:35
But, no, I just think, you know, obviously, you know, when you roll him out,
04:40
Len's more, you know, chances for him to get, you know, hit without anybody blocking.
04:45
You know, if he was a, you know, runner, like you roll out Justin Fields
04:49
and he got the option to throw it out, he can run for 20 yards.
04:52
You know what I mean?
04:53
But you rolling Tua out, you know, I don't know.
04:56
If the defensive end doesn't bite on the run, he's out there one-on-one with Tua.
05:01
And if Tua does one of the fakes and holds the ball, you know, just, I mean,
05:06
every once in a while you have to do it.
05:07
Obviously, you know, Darren Waller came and was the Darren Waller from, you know,
05:13
three years ago.
05:14
And, you know, how long that lasts, we hope, a long time.
05:17
But I just, you know, I just worry about the load being put on A-10 now that, you know,
05:24
because we already throw, you know, seven bubbles, seven flat passes to him already.
05:30
Now you, you know, now you're going to throw 11, you know what I mean?
05:35
Just a lot, you know, because you key on that.
05:38
Some wide receiver doesn't get the block and he gets banged out.
05:42
Now, you know, he got to take a break for like two games.
05:45
Then we, you know, just tough, just tough.
05:48
I just, you know, hope we can at least, you know, Jimmy rig it to where we can do a little bit for everybody.
05:57
You know, you know, in your mind, you just be like, all right, now that Tyreek Zawaddle gets a lion's share of the ball.
06:03
But, I mean, he just hadn't, you know what I mean?
06:06
So, you know, rolling him out was good for the Jets.
06:13
You know, if you got somebody with better defensive ends or who's going to blitz more,
06:17
you know, I'm not sure that's the best thing to do.
06:19
I don't know if you know, but Tua probably is not the fastest quarterback in the league.
06:25
And OG, you brought it.
06:27
He did win the bet again for me last night.
06:30
Yes, sir, he did.
06:31
Rushing over, let's go.
06:33
Rushing over.
06:36
I'm betting that until 18 games straight.
06:40
I am riding that as long as they let me.
06:43
They put 0.5 up them.
06:46
I'm telling you, like, what's the bet that would prevent you from making it?
06:51
Because, obviously, the sportsbooks are going to catch up to 0.5 or 1.5.
06:56
If you do 1.5, I'm taking 1.5.
06:59
As long as you do anything over 5, then I'm not doing over 5.
07:04
If he's rushing over, if Tua's rushing over in Carolina Sunday is 3.5 yards,
07:11
you're still going to ride the over?
07:12
I'm taking it.
07:13
Yeah, I'm still taking it.
07:14
I'm still taking the over.
07:16
There's got to be, like, 7.
07:18
Then I'll be like, no, I ain't taking 7.
07:20
But anything under that, I'm taking it.
07:23
Because, I mean, he has to run.
07:24
He has to.
07:25
Just, you know, no other way around it.
07:28
But, OG, you brought up, you talked about Tyreek's injury,
07:30
and you bring up Malik Washington being that guy.
07:32
Why can't Waller be that guy?
07:33
Would a big tight end like that not fit in this system?
07:38
Yeah, I don't think, you know, not for those amount of yards.
07:43
You know what I mean?
07:44
He fits in for exactly what he did.
07:46
You know, that would be John O. Smith's reduction right there, you know?
07:51
You know, John O. Smith probably was a little bit more agile as far as,
07:55
you know, getting the shovel pass and maybe running a jet sweep
07:59
for, like, three yards, as he's doing now.
08:02
But, I think, you know, Waller did what he was supposed to do.
08:05
You add – now, you add Tyreek's, you know, 80, 90 yards receiving,
08:11
and you add Waller's 65 yards, and either one of them have a touchdown,
08:16
you know, you're good.
08:17
But now you're trying to make Waller get to 80 yards every game.
08:22
Yeah, that's, you know – because him being down at a tight end
08:27
is easier to double.
08:28
You know what I mean?
08:29
You double him, right?
08:30
And now you're back to throwing to Malik Washington.
08:33
You know what I mean?
08:34
Like – and they run around in the same areas.
08:37
Malik Washington's not going to be outside.
08:39
He's going to be a slot guy.
08:40
He's going to do your motions, you know, and do your little orbit motions,
08:45
maybe get the ball in the flat, you know.
08:48
So, you can't really depend on, you know, Waller doing much more than he did.
08:54
But, you know, you're going to try to expand it, obviously, but two touchdowns?
08:58
Like, that's – I mean, how much more you want him to give you?
09:02
You know, that was a good game.
09:06
I'm just – I'm looking it up right now.
09:07
Just speaking of the two rushing overs, did you ever have a rushing yard in your NFL career?
09:13
Did they ever run a reverse?
09:14
I don't think so.
09:15
I don't think so.
09:16
I think so.
09:17
I got one bubble maybe and lost like three yards.
09:21
Because Chan, Chan, Chan, Chan called it at a dumb time.
09:25
You know what I mean?
09:26
Come on, Chan.
09:27
Call him.
09:28
Wait, rushing yards.
09:29
Here we go.
09:30
You have a total for your career.
09:35
You have zero rushing yards.
09:37
Yeah.
09:37
Yeah.
09:38
But that – I mean, that's not surprising, though, right?
09:40
If I gave you the over-under, Arande, total rushing yards for his career,
09:44
you're over-under at a half, you'd have bet the under, yeah?
09:47
Under for sure.
09:48
I don't know why they threw him a bubble screen.
09:53
That's what I'm saying.
09:53
I don't know why they did that either.
09:55
Like, you know what I mean?
09:56
Like, what I'm going to do?
09:58
Take three people and take it 65?
10:00
Probably not.
10:02
I'm going to pitch it.
10:03
I'm going to pitch it to somebody.
10:04
Come on, Lamar.
10:05
I'm going to pitch it to you about 40 yards down the field.
10:07
Come on, man.
10:08
Was that – that was a – that was a written-up play that they ran for you?
10:16
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:18
Like, you know what I'm saying?
10:19
Like, you know, take two steps forward to come back.
10:20
When they called that, did you ask – when they called that, did you say it again?
10:25
You know, I was pretty excited about it.
10:28
It was like on the 11-yard line.
10:30
You know, in your mind, you're like, it's going to work perfect.
10:33
Like, the left tackle, you know, is going to run out here and block the defensive back
10:39
and the wide receiver is going to go crack down on the safety.
10:44
I'm going to catch it and, you know, elevate the door is going to open
10:47
and I'm going to run through for the touchdown.
10:49
It just didn't work that way.
10:54
You just remember how it worked?
10:57
I'm guessing you turned around and there was somebody right in your face.
11:01
Yeah, man.
11:02
You know, you take the two steps forward and then you come back.
11:05
They call it a J-move and you're supposed to get the ball
11:07
and all that's supposed to happen, left hand, kick out the DB that's following me.
11:12
OJ cracks down on the safety and I just run through the middle.
11:16
My God.
11:18
It didn't happen.
11:19
It didn't happen.
11:19
It didn't happen that way.
11:20
It happened as I lost three yards.
11:23
The DB, when I took the two steps out, was trailing me so tight,
11:28
I had tackled for loss.
11:32
Like, he didn't respect my going deep.
11:35
You know what I'm saying?
11:36
Like, if Tyreek takes two steps up, then the DB backs up like five yards.
11:41
Like, I took the two steps up.
11:42
He came forward.
11:44
Like, oh.
11:44
OJ, when they installed that on Wednesday, you thought you was going to get a touchdown?
11:51
Oh, man.
11:52
I thought I was going to get a touchdown.
11:53
Easy, easy, easy.
11:55
I was already doing the OG in my mind in the end zone.
11:58
Without a doubt.
11:59
Because it worked like a charm in practice.
12:01
I'm going to tell some shirts on this one.
12:03
Right.
12:04
Hey, man, listen.
12:05
It worked like a charm in practice.
12:06
The DB seven yards off.
12:08
You know what I mean?
12:09
I'm going to take the step.
12:10
He's going to back up.
12:11
By the time he comes, you know what I'm saying?
12:14
Mark is already out there.
12:15
He kicks him out of bounds.
12:17
OJ cracked down on the safety and the gap.
12:20
Boom, I'm going to catch the ball.
12:21
And I may have one man to beat, but we on 11.
12:24
You know what I'm saying?
12:25
That free safety come up.
12:27
I'm fixing to take off.
12:28
I'm going to take off from the five.
12:30
I'm already diving for the pylon.
12:32
I can do it.
12:37
You know, the reason why, you know, like, it sounded like a good play then,
12:42
but everybody, you know, once we get in the red zone,
12:45
everybody was pressing for the fade.
12:48
You know, everybody would press me.
12:49
And it'd be cool because then I'd run the fade.
12:52
But press on a bubble screen, it's like no bueno.
12:56
Like, that's not smart.
12:58
I just imagine you running the route and looking and seeing the guy coming forward
13:03
and thinking to yourself, no, run backward.
13:06
Run backward.
13:07
Did you see me going forward?
13:09
Yeah.
13:10
Listen, I take the two steps up and he's coming.
13:13
I'm like, shoo, shoo, shoo.
13:15
Like, go.
13:16
Go back.
13:17
Go back.
13:17
Go back.
13:17
Go back.
13:18
No, not now.
13:20
Not now.
13:21
Shoo, shoo.
13:21
Like, he'll fly or something.
13:23
Like, go.
13:23
You're going to ruin this whole thing.
13:25
Shoo.
13:25
Yeah, you're going to ruin it by one play.
13:33
You're going to ruin it by one play.
13:35
One chance.
13:36
I was going to say, did you even bother watching it back on the tablet on the bench
13:39
to see what went wrong?
13:41
But I don't think they had tablets back then.
13:43
Tablet?
13:43
Oh, no.
13:45
Tablet?
13:45
Are you kidding me?
13:48
Tablets.
13:48
You mean the IBM one, the blue ones with the pen, they smash all the time?
13:53
Yeah, we had those.
13:54
Yeah.
13:56
That's funny.
13:57
I think we got back Monday.
14:03
They were like, that play is in the trash.
14:06
We're not running that play anymore.
14:08
I'm like, duh, you think?
14:10
Just throw me the fade, bro.
14:12
Like, you know, I did.
14:14
Have you looked at how big I am and how good my hands are?
14:17
Throw me the fade.
14:18
Yeah, I caught the ball, which made it a three-yard loss.
14:22
I should have missed the ball.
14:23
Like, who are you throwing that to?
14:24
You're not throwing that to me.
14:26
Take a three-yard loss on my stats.
14:28
Oh, my God.
14:29
That is funny, man.
14:30
Someone chats in, OG's got to be in the Mount Rushmore of storytellers.
14:34
That is a great story, man.
14:37
I can just feel it running through your head.
14:41
Yeah, I remember.
14:42
You know, because it has to.
14:44
Like, you know, what happens if I got to do this?
14:48
I got to do that.
14:48
But I got to get tackled right away.
14:50
Like, I didn't even know what if.
14:53
Three-yard loss.
14:55
Kick the field goal.
14:56
You had more thoughts about how you're going to celebrate it than actually thinking someone's
15:02
going to be right up in your grill.
15:04
That was the last thing in my mind.
15:07
Like, I'm looking at the free safety.
15:09
He on the goal line, right?
15:11
And so, I'm like, when I get the ball, I'll probably be at, like, the nine.
15:15
And so, it's going to be me and him to the pylon.
15:18
And I'm going to beat him to the pylon.
15:19
That ain't even a question.
15:21
Because I'm taking off from the side.
15:22
I got to only hit the pylon with the ball.
15:24
I got it.
15:25
I totally got it.
15:27
And I'm like, I'm going to catch it.
15:29
Boom.
15:30
Just like I practiced.
15:31
Two steps.
15:31
Two hard steps forward.
15:33
Come back around.
15:34
Mark, who's coming out from the tackle spot.
15:37
He's going to kick the DB.
15:38
I'm going to catch it.
15:38
And I'm going to go, you know, back toward the sideline.
15:41
Back out.
15:41
Like, he got a long way to run.
15:43
And I'm going to spike it up.
15:45
I'm going to do the OG.
15:45
Like, it's already done in my mind.
15:49
Already done.
15:52
Him following me, like, never even crossed my mind.
15:59
Him doing his job never even crossed my mind.
16:03
You're supposed to be like Ben Kelly in practice.
16:13
Ben Kelly took two steps back.
16:17
Like, what are you doing?
16:19
Was you not at practice, dude?
16:20
Was you not at practice?
16:22
I ran this 11 times in practice.
16:24
What the hell are you doing right here?
16:27
Right.
16:28
Right.
16:29
You know, the most that can happen is the dude pushed OG.
16:33
And I got to bounce one time and then run in.
16:35
You know what I'm saying?
16:36
Okay.
16:37
Not him tackling me right away.
16:39
That never even crossed my mind.
16:41
Oh, my God.
16:42
That is funny.
16:43
All right.
16:43
We got to go.
16:44
We're up against a break.
16:44
See you, OG.
16:46
All right, man.
16:46
See you.
16:47
Yeah.
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