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Oronde Gadsden joins the show with his takeaways on the Dolphins win and shares the story of the ONE bubble screen that was ever called for him during his NFL career.
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00:00Arande is on the Toyota of Hollywood hotline.
00:04Of course, he played receiver for the Dolphins.
00:07Arande II, his son, had a nice game for the Chargers.
00:10Last Sunday, he was a starter, too.
00:12Went from inactive to being a starter.
00:16And he'll be back at it this Sunday.
00:18Arande's with us.
00:19Hello, OG.
00:21Yo, what's happening?
00:23So, what do you make of the Dolphins last night?
00:25I asked this earlier.
00:27Do you watch the game?
00:28Do you watch the win?
00:29And you say, you know what?
00:30They're starting to put it together.
00:31They've looked better week after week after week.
00:34They've looked a little bit better each week.
00:36And so, maybe they're turning a corner.
00:38Or do you say, eh, you know what?
00:40They were beneficiaries of playing a really bad, undisciplined Jets team.
00:48A little bit of both, I think.
00:50You know, obviously, you put the Jets as an 0-3 team as well out front.
00:55But I do think in some areas, they are looking a little better than they did the last two weeks, anyway.
01:08And so, you hope that progression continues.
01:12You know, going to Carolina doesn't hurt.
01:14And so, if you can string two of them together, that would be pretty cool.
01:19But, you know, the Tyreek thing is big.
01:22Obviously, it has to lend to a different type of, I guess, a different type of theory going into the game.
01:33And, OG, shouldn't they lean somebody over there by Garrett Wilson or have somebody who's just one-and-a-half people or something like that?
01:41Because it seems silly to me to leave him one-on-one with those corners.
01:46You know, like, on a touchdown, it definitely wasn't bad, you know, bad coverage.
01:52Just good ball beat good coverage every time.
01:54Not every time, but, you know, eight times out of ten.
01:57If you throw a good ball, it'll be good coverage.
02:00Good catch.
02:00You know, the DB was right there.
02:02I mean, you know, I don't think – they hadn't done that, you know what I mean, the last few times they played him.
02:10They pretty much played a man, you know, pretty much a lot and, you know, figured it out.
02:17Like, I think last year, Ramsey played a man.
02:19I know it was a different corner.
02:21But they hadn't really doubled Garrett Wilson as much.
02:25I mean, they should have doubled the line to stop the run.
02:30You know.
02:31Yeah.
02:32Garrett Wilson, you know, he's a good player.
02:37He makes plays.
02:38It's just – you know, he didn't do anything until late, really.
02:41I mean, the first half, he was – you know, he didn't cause a dent in the defense.
02:46It's just that second half, he got a little loose.
02:48But he got loose because now you're trying to stop the 80 yards that, you know, Hall and Fields get.
02:55And, you know what I'm saying, so you got to try to stop that.
02:58So, I mean, you know, it's – you know how it is.
03:00It's a double-edged sword.
03:01But, you know, offensively, I think we're finding some things out.
03:06But now, you know, Tyreek is down.
03:08And, you know, this still lends to my only a plan A situation.
03:14Now that Tyreek Hill is out, you can't just say, now we're going to put Malik Washington in that spot.
03:21Like, you know what I'm saying?
03:22You know, now you're trying to do the same things.
03:26It's just not going to work out the same.
03:28You know what I mean?
03:28Just like the speed's not the same.
03:31You know, he's coming out of his break, not the same.
03:34And, you know, when Tua looks to throw to him, you know, he's been throwing to Tyreek for three, four years.
03:40Now you're going to look to throw to Malik and you're going to throw the ball and he a step too slow.
03:44He didn't read it as you did.
03:46But, you know, it's just, you know, unfortunately a recipe for disaster.
03:54What do you think of the overall game plan, though, offensively, OG?
03:57I think Tyreek goes down.
03:59Devon Achan is by far your best player and he played well yesterday.
04:03But even the broadcast was highlighting they had Tua on the move a lot more yesterday.
04:09And the play design, it seemed more conducive to putting Tua in the right spots to make plays.
04:17And I know his numbers weren't impressive yesterday.
04:20But what do you think of just the overall game plan of having Tua kind of on those bootlegs a little bit more,
04:26kind of rolling out a little bit more, trying to get him in better positions to make plays?
04:32I don't like it.
04:33I don't like it.
04:34I don't like it one bit.
04:35But, no, I just think, you know, obviously, you know, when you roll him out,
04:40Len's more, you know, chances for him to get, you know, hit without anybody blocking.
04:45You know, if he was a, you know, runner, like you roll out Justin Fields
04:49and he got the option to throw it out, he can run for 20 yards.
04:52You know what I mean?
04:53But you rolling Tua out, you know, I don't know.
04:56If the defensive end doesn't bite on the run, he's out there one-on-one with Tua.
05:01And if Tua does one of the fakes and holds the ball, you know, just, I mean,
05:06every once in a while you have to do it.
05:07Obviously, you know, Darren Waller came and was the Darren Waller from, you know,
05:13three years ago.
05:14And, you know, how long that lasts, we hope, a long time.
05:17But I just, you know, I just worry about the load being put on A-10 now that, you know,
05:24because we already throw, you know, seven bubbles, seven flat passes to him already.
05:30Now you, you know, now you're going to throw 11, you know what I mean?
05:35Just a lot, you know, because you key on that.
05:38Some wide receiver doesn't get the block and he gets banged out.
05:42Now, you know, he got to take a break for like two games.
05:45Then we, you know, just tough, just tough.
05:48I just, you know, hope we can at least, you know, Jimmy rig it to where we can do a little bit for everybody.
05:57You know, you know, in your mind, you just be like, all right, now that Tyreek Zawaddle gets a lion's share of the ball.
06:03But, I mean, he just hadn't, you know what I mean?
06:06So, you know, rolling him out was good for the Jets.
06:13You know, if you got somebody with better defensive ends or who's going to blitz more,
06:17you know, I'm not sure that's the best thing to do.
06:19I don't know if you know, but Tua probably is not the fastest quarterback in the league.
06:25And OG, you brought it.
06:27He did win the bet again for me last night.
06:30Yes, sir, he did.
06:31Rushing over, let's go.
06:33Rushing over.
06:36I'm betting that until 18 games straight.
06:40I am riding that as long as they let me.
06:43They put 0.5 up them.
06:46I'm telling you, like, what's the bet that would prevent you from making it?
06:51Because, obviously, the sportsbooks are going to catch up to 0.5 or 1.5.
06:56If you do 1.5, I'm taking 1.5.
06:59As long as you do anything over 5, then I'm not doing over 5.
07:04If he's rushing over, if Tua's rushing over in Carolina Sunday is 3.5 yards,
07:11you're still going to ride the over?
07:12I'm taking it.
07:13Yeah, I'm still taking it.
07:14I'm still taking the over.
07:16There's got to be, like, 7.
07:18Then I'll be like, no, I ain't taking 7.
07:20But anything under that, I'm taking it.
07:23Because, I mean, he has to run.
07:24He has to.
07:25Just, you know, no other way around it.
07:28But, OG, you brought up, you talked about Tyreek's injury,
07:30and you bring up Malik Washington being that guy.
07:32Why can't Waller be that guy?
07:33Would a big tight end like that not fit in this system?
07:38Yeah, I don't think, you know, not for those amount of yards.
07:43You know what I mean?
07:44He fits in for exactly what he did.
07:46You know, that would be John O. Smith's reduction right there, you know?
07:51You know, John O. Smith probably was a little bit more agile as far as,
07:55you know, getting the shovel pass and maybe running a jet sweep
07:59for, like, three yards, as he's doing now.
08:02But, I think, you know, Waller did what he was supposed to do.
08:05You add – now, you add Tyreek's, you know, 80, 90 yards receiving,
08:11and you add Waller's 65 yards, and either one of them have a touchdown,
08:16you know, you're good.
08:17But now you're trying to make Waller get to 80 yards every game.
08:22Yeah, that's, you know – because him being down at a tight end
08:27is easier to double.
08:28You know what I mean?
08:29You double him, right?
08:30And now you're back to throwing to Malik Washington.
08:33You know what I mean?
08:34Like – and they run around in the same areas.
08:37Malik Washington's not going to be outside.
08:39He's going to be a slot guy.
08:40He's going to do your motions, you know, and do your little orbit motions,
08:45maybe get the ball in the flat, you know.
08:48So, you can't really depend on, you know, Waller doing much more than he did.
08:54But, you know, you're going to try to expand it, obviously, but two touchdowns?
08:58Like, that's – I mean, how much more you want him to give you?
09:02You know, that was a good game.
09:06I'm just – I'm looking it up right now.
09:07Just speaking of the two rushing overs, did you ever have a rushing yard in your NFL career?
09:13Did they ever run a reverse?
09:14I don't think so.
09:15I don't think so.
09:16I think so.
09:17I got one bubble maybe and lost like three yards.
09:21Because Chan, Chan, Chan, Chan called it at a dumb time.
09:25You know what I mean?
09:26Come on, Chan.
09:27Call him.
09:28Wait, rushing yards.
09:29Here we go.
09:30You have a total for your career.
09:35You have zero rushing yards.
09:37Yeah.
09:37Yeah.
09:38But that – I mean, that's not surprising, though, right?
09:40If I gave you the over-under, Arande, total rushing yards for his career,
09:44you're over-under at a half, you'd have bet the under, yeah?
09:47Under for sure.
09:48I don't know why they threw him a bubble screen.
09:53That's what I'm saying.
09:53I don't know why they did that either.
09:55Like, you know what I mean?
09:56Like, what I'm going to do?
09:58Take three people and take it 65?
10:00Probably not.
10:02I'm going to pitch it.
10:03I'm going to pitch it to somebody.
10:04Come on, Lamar.
10:05I'm going to pitch it to you about 40 yards down the field.
10:07Come on, man.
10:08Was that – that was a – that was a written-up play that they ran for you?
10:16Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:18Like, you know what I'm saying?
10:19Like, you know, take two steps forward to come back.
10:20When they called that, did you ask – when they called that, did you say it again?
10:25You know, I was pretty excited about it.
10:28It was like on the 11-yard line.
10:30You know, in your mind, you're like, it's going to work perfect.
10:33Like, the left tackle, you know, is going to run out here and block the defensive back
10:39and the wide receiver is going to go crack down on the safety.
10:44I'm going to catch it and, you know, elevate the door is going to open
10:47and I'm going to run through for the touchdown.
10:49It just didn't work that way.
10:54You just remember how it worked?
10:57I'm guessing you turned around and there was somebody right in your face.
11:01Yeah, man.
11:02You know, you take the two steps forward and then you come back.
11:05They call it a J-move and you're supposed to get the ball
11:07and all that's supposed to happen, left hand, kick out the DB that's following me.
11:12OJ cracks down on the safety and I just run through the middle.
11:16My God.
11:18It didn't happen.
11:19It didn't happen.
11:19It didn't happen that way.
11:20It happened as I lost three yards.
11:23The DB, when I took the two steps out, was trailing me so tight,
11:28I had tackled for loss.
11:32Like, he didn't respect my going deep.
11:35You know what I'm saying?
11:36Like, if Tyreek takes two steps up, then the DB backs up like five yards.
11:41Like, I took the two steps up.
11:42He came forward.
11:44Like, oh.
11:44OJ, when they installed that on Wednesday, you thought you was going to get a touchdown?
11:51Oh, man.
11:52I thought I was going to get a touchdown.
11:53Easy, easy, easy.
11:55I was already doing the OG in my mind in the end zone.
11:58Without a doubt.
11:59Because it worked like a charm in practice.
12:01I'm going to tell some shirts on this one.
12:03Right.
12:04Hey, man, listen.
12:05It worked like a charm in practice.
12:06The DB seven yards off.
12:08You know what I mean?
12:09I'm going to take the step.
12:10He's going to back up.
12:11By the time he comes, you know what I'm saying?
12:14Mark is already out there.
12:15He kicks him out of bounds.
12:17OJ cracked down on the safety and the gap.
12:20Boom, I'm going to catch the ball.
12:21And I may have one man to beat, but we on 11.
12:24You know what I'm saying?
12:25That free safety come up.
12:27I'm fixing to take off.
12:28I'm going to take off from the five.
12:30I'm already diving for the pylon.
12:32I can do it.
12:37You know, the reason why, you know, like, it sounded like a good play then,
12:42but everybody, you know, once we get in the red zone,
12:45everybody was pressing for the fade.
12:48You know, everybody would press me.
12:49And it'd be cool because then I'd run the fade.
12:52But press on a bubble screen, it's like no bueno.
12:56Like, that's not smart.
12:58I just imagine you running the route and looking and seeing the guy coming forward
13:03and thinking to yourself, no, run backward.
13:06Run backward.
13:07Did you see me going forward?
13:09Yeah.
13:10Listen, I take the two steps up and he's coming.
13:13I'm like, shoo, shoo, shoo.
13:15Like, go.
13:16Go back.
13:17Go back.
13:17Go back.
13:17Go back.
13:18No, not now.
13:20Not now.
13:21Shoo, shoo.
13:21Like, he'll fly or something.
13:23Like, go.
13:23You're going to ruin this whole thing.
13:25Shoo.
13:25Yeah, you're going to ruin it by one play.
13:33You're going to ruin it by one play.
13:35One chance.
13:36I was going to say, did you even bother watching it back on the tablet on the bench
13:39to see what went wrong?
13:41But I don't think they had tablets back then.
13:43Tablet?
13:43Oh, no.
13:45Tablet?
13:45Are you kidding me?
13:48Tablets.
13:48You mean the IBM one, the blue ones with the pen, they smash all the time?
13:53Yeah, we had those.
13:54Yeah.
13:56That's funny.
13:57I think we got back Monday.
14:03They were like, that play is in the trash.
14:06We're not running that play anymore.
14:08I'm like, duh, you think?
14:10Just throw me the fade, bro.
14:12Like, you know, I did.
14:14Have you looked at how big I am and how good my hands are?
14:17Throw me the fade.
14:18Yeah, I caught the ball, which made it a three-yard loss.
14:22I should have missed the ball.
14:23Like, who are you throwing that to?
14:24You're not throwing that to me.
14:26Take a three-yard loss on my stats.
14:28Oh, my God.
14:29That is funny, man.
14:30Someone chats in, OG's got to be in the Mount Rushmore of storytellers.
14:34That is a great story, man.
14:37I can just feel it running through your head.
14:41Yeah, I remember.
14:42You know, because it has to.
14:44Like, you know, what happens if I got to do this?
14:48I got to do that.
14:48But I got to get tackled right away.
14:50Like, I didn't even know what if.
14:53Three-yard loss.
14:55Kick the field goal.
14:56You had more thoughts about how you're going to celebrate it than actually thinking someone's
15:02going to be right up in your grill.
15:04That was the last thing in my mind.
15:07Like, I'm looking at the free safety.
15:09He on the goal line, right?
15:11And so, I'm like, when I get the ball, I'll probably be at, like, the nine.
15:15And so, it's going to be me and him to the pylon.
15:18And I'm going to beat him to the pylon.
15:19That ain't even a question.
15:21Because I'm taking off from the side.
15:22I got to only hit the pylon with the ball.
15:24I got it.
15:25I totally got it.
15:27And I'm like, I'm going to catch it.
15:29Boom.
15:30Just like I practiced.
15:31Two steps.
15:31Two hard steps forward.
15:33Come back around.
15:34Mark, who's coming out from the tackle spot.
15:37He's going to kick the DB.
15:38I'm going to catch it.
15:38And I'm going to go, you know, back toward the sideline.
15:41Back out.
15:41Like, he got a long way to run.
15:43And I'm going to spike it up.
15:45I'm going to do the OG.
15:45Like, it's already done in my mind.
15:49Already done.
15:52Him following me, like, never even crossed my mind.
15:59Him doing his job never even crossed my mind.
16:03You're supposed to be like Ben Kelly in practice.
16:13Ben Kelly took two steps back.
16:17Like, what are you doing?
16:19Was you not at practice, dude?
16:20Was you not at practice?
16:22I ran this 11 times in practice.
16:24What the hell are you doing right here?
16:27Right.
16:28Right.
16:29You know, the most that can happen is the dude pushed OG.
16:33And I got to bounce one time and then run in.
16:35You know what I'm saying?
16:36Okay.
16:37Not him tackling me right away.
16:39That never even crossed my mind.
16:41Oh, my God.
16:42That is funny.
16:43All right.
16:43We got to go.
16:44We're up against a break.
16:44See you, OG.
16:46All right, man.
16:46See you.
16:47Yeah.
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