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00:00:00Turn here from 10.30 for a brief update and of course the bulk of the night time racing will be on Eurosport through the night tonight.

00:00:10Pit stops fast and furious for the lead group, Dindo Capello's Audi car number one you saw on pit road having service, nose being changed.

00:00:18I wonder whether they're going for a slightly higher downforce configuration from our elevated viewpoint.

00:00:24It looks like there are more louvers over the front wheel. It may just be that there was some problem with the lights or something else because you must have running lights on the cars.

00:00:33Also out goes car number 17. That's Simon Paginot in the Pescarolo Porsche. Martin Haven, Simon Hill and Jeremy Shaw with you.

00:00:42Jeremy, you've been keeping tabs on the fuel situation. Did they manage to squeeze an extra lap out of Capello's car?

00:00:49Did they manage to squeeze anything extra out of the tank in Paginot's number 17?

00:00:54Yes. 13 laps for both of those two on that stint. Simon Paginot's car, they did change tyres due to a fresh set of Michelin's on to the car number 17, the Pescarolo Sport Peugeot.

00:01:07And at car number one, we saw a change in the nose. That's the second time they've done that, isn't it?

00:01:12I think that's absolutely right, yes. They do have different configurations.

00:01:16The louvers over the front wheels, which are to take air out from the brakes and so on, they also have an aerodynamic effect.

00:01:23They can create more or less downforce. They help to balance the rear wing.

00:01:27It may be perhaps that the driver was complaining of understeer.

00:01:30Maybe he was complaining of oversteer where the back of the car is loose because there's too much grip at the front.

00:01:35And so it's a very subtle way of balancing the car aerodynamically, which, of course, here at over 200 miles an hour on the straights is so important.

00:01:44He's completely right. And the other key thing with that is that we talked about the fact that the only possible disadvantage of the Deezers, we see one of the Peugeot.

00:01:54I can't see which one that is from here, running very, very wide.

00:01:56There's the level of commitment, trying to take a good run, getting a better run, obviously, in a faster car out of the Monsanto-Cicaine there,

00:02:03clearly adding no other option than to either brake or go on the gravel.

00:02:07And racing drivers tend not to like to brake at the start of the straight for obvious reasons.

00:02:11It loses an awful lot of momentum.

00:02:12The point was, we're talking about the handling characteristics, heavy engine at the back, a diesel engine obviously heavier than a petrol engine.

00:02:18Anyone that drives a diesel road car will know what we mean.

00:02:20Therefore, sometimes they have to jack the car up a little bit more.

00:02:22They sit the car a bit higher at the back than they are at the front.

00:02:25It can affect the handling.

00:02:26It means they have to balance the car aerodynamically in a slightly different way.

00:02:30Looking here at the battle, Jeremy, between the two Pescarello team cars as Audi No. 3 is on pit lane.

00:02:37This car now back up to 8th.

00:02:38Yes.

00:02:39And who's at the wheel?

00:02:40Timo Bernhardt.

00:02:41It remains at the wheel of that car.

00:02:43He's not anonymous as it has on the timing.

00:02:45That's his second pit stop.

00:02:47So it'll be a third stint for Timo Bernhardt.

00:02:49They did, however, put fresh Michelin tyres on this time around.

00:02:53Well, do you know what?

00:02:54For the extra 20 seconds it takes, they probably need the speed, don't they?

00:02:59Checking inside the huge, gaping, whale-like mouth of that Audi and clearly looking for debris or something that might be causing it to overheat.

00:03:09As we see the two Pescarello run cars, the diesel Peugeot and the petrol engine Pesca Judd swapping positions on the racetrack.

00:03:18Well, they are a couple of laps, but several laps apart.

00:03:21Number two is on pit road.

00:03:23Magic Marco.

00:03:24Marco Werner is still at the wheel of that one.

00:03:26Again, a scheduled stop here for car number two.

00:03:29And again, ready to go with the nose.

00:03:31Three, two, one.

00:03:33As soon as the fuel...

00:03:34I was spot on.

00:03:35As soon as the fuel hose has come off, click.

00:03:37Off come those fasteners.

00:03:39Off comes the nose.

00:03:39So, again, and maybe, Simon Hill, this is because of having just six hours of relentlessly wet running on Wednesday where really nothing got done in terms of hot, dry conditions.

00:03:51And then Thursday, we didn't start till seven at night.

00:03:53Till now, we have not run in the heat of the day like this at all at Le Mans this year.

00:03:58And so we're now perhaps seeing them changing back to a more evening configuration where the track is getting a little less slick,

00:04:07a little less slippery as maybe some of the heat comes out from the sun.

00:04:10Yeah, the temperature changes and the rubber is increasing massively now.

00:04:13Obviously, we're getting more and more and more.

00:04:1565 laps now of intense driving for these guys throughout the 55 cars.

00:04:20And that could be a factor, too.

00:04:22Also, the real key thing, if you said quite rightly, Martin, is that they are still really thinking, right, we pretty much think we know where we need to go with this car.

00:04:30But the only way you're going to find out is when you get Dindo Capello, Alan McNish, and the rest of the guys going,

00:04:34this is what this car is doing for me at the moment.

00:04:36I need, as a racing driver, the car to do this.

00:04:39So one way of doing it is an aerodynamic change like that or a setup change, which has to be done quickly, as we've seen.

00:04:45And it does make me laugh when I see that, the way these guys are hovering over the car, ready to go with their spanners there to do the job of this rule of,

00:04:53let's have two guys, only two guys, it's going to be cost-saving.

00:04:56No, it's not.

00:04:57It's just changed the way they go about it.

00:04:59Well, the fundamental problem with that cost-saving is you can't run one of these cars with just two mechanics.

00:05:04You need the whole team of mechanics, so they're all here anyway.

00:05:07Anyway, so like a NASCAR race, Jeremy, we're seeing the cars, the teams chasing the setup of the car as weather conditions change, as the track rubbers up.

00:05:16It's going to be very interesting.

00:05:18Yeah, quite frankly, I hate it.

00:05:20The pit stops take so long in the Le Mans series, but that's just a...

00:05:24Well, if you want quick pit stops, you can go to Formula One, because you don't get racing, but you know.

00:05:28Yeah, that's too fast.

00:05:29Right, let's get down to the pit road, catch up with Lucas Luer.

00:05:34Lucas Luer, the cars were just inside, and at your car you changed the front, why?

00:05:39Lucas Luer, the car was in the pit, it looked like you were changing the nose at the front, what was that all about?

00:05:49So yeah, we're trying to balance the setup of the car.

00:05:55Well, obviously from the start it's been clear that Peugeot is quite a lot faster than us, so we're trying to find a bit of pace.

00:06:02Can you give us a little more details?

00:06:05No.

00:06:06Well, it doesn't look that bad at the moment.

00:06:11Yeah, we want 20 hours still to go, so a lot of changes can happen here.

00:06:18Peugeot is going very, very fast, though.

00:06:22Can you go as quickly as that?

00:06:25Well, Car3 had a few problems at the beginning, but we're still fighting.

00:06:30We're here, we will not give up right till the end.

00:06:34Well, Didier-Andre Pierrague and Frank Maillot, we talked about them a few minutes ago, and the car could not possibly have stopped in a worse place if they'd sat down and scratched their heads and planned it.

00:06:44It's not only just about at the end of the laps, he's got to do another whole one, he's on the opposite side of the pit wall where he wants to be.

00:06:52Now, somehow, he's gone through the start sequence and got that car going again.

00:06:57I'm not quite sure what was up with it, but it's a very bizarre place to choose to park for a Sunday picnic.

00:07:02That has all the sort of indications of a kind of come out of the chicane, call for a gear, nothing happens, car suddenly won't work, some sort of electro-hydraulically issue maybe.

00:07:16Gone for the good old-fashioned switch it all off, switch it back on again.

00:07:19Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and would appear this time, luckily for Didier, it has worked.

00:07:23The other option might be, he was sitting there flicking on the reserve tank pump.

00:07:27Yes, it could well be the one.

00:07:28So, you know, not everybody is still absolutely on the money when it comes to how far the fuel goes, possibly, but, yeah, it seems unlikely that it was anything other than either fuel or electrics,

00:07:38because if it was more major than that, it wouldn't have got going quite so quickly.

00:07:42There was no pools of oil and no smoke, which is a good sign from that point of view.

00:07:47So, we're going to take a quick commercial break.

00:07:49You can see the standings there in front of you.

00:07:50This is after four hours of the Le Mans race.

00:07:53Peugeot still very much the dominant force here.

00:07:56They've got track position and pace.

00:07:59Audi are doing some serious head-scratching in the Le Mans 24 hours.

00:08:08Welcome back live to Le Mans, where, as you can see, it's a Corvette 123 at the moment in the GT1 class.

00:08:15It's looking there at the 64 car, the second of the Corvettes in the running order.

00:08:21Don't forget, leman.eurosport at yahoo.com is our email address.

00:08:25Get to a couple of the questions in a short while.

00:08:28Thank you to everybody for pointing out that Bruno Senna did not crash the Orica car earlier on.

00:08:32It was Stefan Ortele, incidentally.

00:08:34I had had my eyes off the screen while they changed over.

00:08:38Peugeot lead, one, two.

00:08:40Audi, three, four.

00:08:42And Aston Martin, the Lola Aston Martins, Aston Martin Racing in five and six positions overall.

00:08:48So let's have a quick word in the pitch.

00:08:50We're going to catch up with Dr. Wolfgang Ulrich.

00:08:52Dr. Wolfgang Ulrich, I have just asked Lukas Lohr why the front was switched to both cars.

00:09:04We've already had a chat with Lukas Lohr about changing the noses on the front of the cars.

00:09:09He couldn't tell us an awful lot.

00:09:12What about it?

00:09:12Well, what we're trying to do with the new bodywork, the different bodywork, is to get a bit more pace out of the car.

00:09:20We've had a bit of problem with the steering on the cars.

00:09:26So we're trying to sort the cars with a problem that hasn't appeared during qualifying.

00:09:33Are you going to find enough speed to catch the Peugeots?

00:09:36Well, certainly we're going to try to.

00:09:37Thank you, sir.

00:10:07And built a substantial advantage over Audi.

00:10:10And now they are sitting, doing a good race pace, maintaining that gap.

00:10:15Yeah, now Audi should be worried, very, very worried at this point.

00:10:18Because Peugeot have been four stinting their tyres in this heat.

00:10:21And they were still, Sarazen was still running close to 25s at times in this heat.

00:10:27I mean, that is quite, quite of great concern to Audi.

00:10:32Audi, we know a bit more about Audi.

00:10:34We've been down there.

00:10:34What's happening, this new nose shape is just sucking up any debris there is around the track.

00:10:39We saw it with Alan McNish a couple of hours ago.

00:10:41He had something jammed in the front.

00:10:43And I mean, you know, we've used this phrase before.

00:10:45Peugeot, they're going down the straight, sucking all the rabbits out the hedges, and now just picking them up.

00:10:50Yes, it's a bit of an unusual situation.

00:10:55There's only one time we've ever seen Audi not on the pace.

00:10:58And that was the first year they came here with the R8s and the R8R and R8C.

00:11:03The first ever Audis that raced here.

00:11:05Then the race was won by BMW.

00:11:07Since then, whenever an Audi has been here, it's won the race.

00:11:11And more than often, clean swept the podium.

00:11:13So this is an unusual situation for the team to be in, fighting back.

00:11:16And not a situation they would want to be in either.

00:11:20I think this is going to make them very, very nervous.

00:11:23I mean, based on the way the qualifying was, I think Audi probably had high hopes.

00:11:28They were thinking, we've brought out a new car.

00:11:30It's going to be really quick.

00:11:31We can now really take the pace with Peugeot.

00:11:33But, you know, they just seem to be dropping off.

00:11:35They're now running a lap down from the Peugeot as well, which is definitely not good at this early stage in the race.

00:11:40This is going to have Wolfgang Ulrich very, very worried indeed.

00:11:44And they're going to have to find a way to pick the pace up.

00:11:46I mean, perhaps at night, they might be able to find a bit of pace.

00:11:49Because we're seeing it's very hot out there.

00:11:51It's in the 30s, definitely.

00:11:53And maybe there's just a way that Peugeot's utilizing their tires a bit better.

00:11:57That was the sound of straws being clutched out there, ladies and gentlemen.

00:12:01Night is not long enough here to make a difference.

00:12:03It's not really even long enough at Daytona to make a difference.

00:12:06009 coming back out after another elongated pit stop.

00:12:10So, maybe if we could just have a little look further than the top four,

00:12:14it might be interesting to go and find out what is happening down at Aston Martin.

00:12:17Maybe we can send Sebastian down there.

00:12:19009 leaves, as you see.

00:12:21007 and 008, the other two Lola chassis Aston Martins, are in fifth and sixth position.

00:12:28Simon Pagino, seventh in the number 17 Pescarolo Peugeot.

00:12:31LMP2, still, it's the Porsche's battling.

00:12:34The Essex car is a minute ahead of the team go-car.

00:12:37GT1 is the preserve of Corvette.

00:12:41Corvette's running first, second, third and fourth.

00:12:44But in GT, the gap now running the rack ahead of Seth Neiman in the Flying Lizards car.

00:12:50It's out to 40 seconds at the head of the GT2 class.

00:12:53Pierre Caffer, 50 seconds behind Seth Neiman in third place in the best place Ferrari.

00:12:58But I imagine that gap will be coming down.

00:13:00We're looking at the gap here between Thomas Enger and Jos Verstappen.

00:13:043 minutes 34.1 to 3 minutes 33.8 between the two Aston Martins on the last lap.

00:13:11Lola Aston Martins.

00:13:12There is very little at all between those two Aston Martin racing entries as they go by Seth Neiman.

00:13:17That is Jos Verstappen flashing the headlights.

00:13:20Yeah, and looking further down now, we did follow of some interest on Thursday night.

00:13:24The progress of the little stracker, Janetta Zaitek.

00:13:28Now, Danny Watts hasn't driven this car until now.

00:13:30He's got on board about half an hour ago, and he's just put in a series of fastest laps at 3.36, 3.35.

00:13:37And he's just, as we're talking, done a 3.34.

00:13:40And he's pulled that car up from 18th to 16th.

00:13:42He's now knocking on the door of the two Porsche Spiders.

00:13:45He's on the same lap, and he's about two minutes behind them.

00:13:47So, I expect to see that car haul itself past the LM2 leaders.

00:13:52Of course, the Janetta Zaitek is a LMP1 car.

00:13:56Danny Watts on board.

00:13:58And it's all looking good there, Liz.

00:14:00Very strong performance.

00:14:02It is.

00:14:02And we were speaking with Danny Watts earlier before the race, and they're planning on doing quadruple stints at night.

00:14:07And it's also very interesting.

00:14:08They've got a different wheel for their night stints, which is a new one for me.

00:14:12But normally, you'd have a dimmer switch on the wheel.

00:14:14But apparently, they're changing driver and wheel at some point in the evening, which should be an interesting pit stop for them.

00:14:20So, we'll wait and see how that works out.

00:14:22But certainly, I think he's a man on a mission, and he's pushing hard.

00:14:25But I think he's just done the fastest lap the car has done, just in his last lap.

00:14:29Yeah, Peter Hartman started it, and then Nick Leventus took over.

00:14:34Nick, unfortunately, had an off in it.

00:14:35Not serious, but a spin.

00:14:37But Nick, I think, is going to learn a lot this weekend.

00:14:40It's a very steep learning curve at Le Mans, but he's going to come out of this a better driver.

00:14:43Oh, absolutely.

00:14:44I think as long as you can keep pushing on at Le Mans, you know, you spend so much time in the car with so many different speed differentials,

00:14:50and you've got the difference of the real circuit and the actual road to deal with,

00:14:53you come away much stronger, much more wisened driver, I think is the best way to put it.

00:14:58Anyway, we've got one of the icons of Le Mans joining us now.

00:15:01Not Jack Eakes, but Hugh Chamberlain, far more important.

00:15:05Hugh, who's never let me forget the time about 10 years ago.

00:15:08He's up in this cabin, and I said, Sunday morning, Hugh, you're running in third in Group C2.

00:15:13This must be your finest moment.

00:15:15And Hugh said, if you don't count the year we won, yes.

00:15:18We're just going to take a quick break, and we'll be back with larger-than-life Hugh Chamberlain

00:15:21and find out why he's here.

00:15:23We're back live on Eurosport at the Le Mans.

00:15:3224 hours.

00:15:33We are now some 5 hours and 12 minutes.

00:15:385 hours and 12 minutes, I say.

00:15:406 hours and 12 minutes.

00:15:41Well, that's your, but it's only now.

00:15:42No, we're 4 hours and 12 minutes into the race.

00:15:44Peugeot leading Sarrazan from David Brabham in the number 9 Peugeot.

00:15:50And we've just had a change of order for third place.

00:15:53Dindo Capello has just taken position off his teammate, Marco Werner, and just put the car's

00:15:58fastest lap of the race so far, 328.50.

00:16:02Alan McNish in that car.

00:16:03Our last year's winner with Dindo and Tom Christensen couldn't get below 329, but Dindo a 328.

00:16:08Great performance by the Italian.

00:16:10Now, we've joined, as we said, we've promised before the break by Hugh Chamberlain.

00:16:13Hugh, of course, is Chamberlain's synergy, but also synonymous with Le Mans over the years.

00:16:19And Hugh, first time for years, you haven't actually been running a car here, or helping

00:16:23with running one.

00:16:24That's right.

00:16:25It's a very, very strange feeling, particularly when the sun's shining and things are happening.

00:16:30It's going to be wonderful when it, if it does pour with rain, I can actually go and

00:16:35do something else, which I couldn't do normally.

00:16:37But, yes, it's a very strange feeling.

00:16:40So, you've found all the Crape Suzette bars and the ice cream bars?

00:16:43No, I haven't, actually.

00:16:44I've been extremely boring.

00:16:46I've been looking at motorcars, and you walk up and down the pit lane and think, I think

00:16:51I could do better than that.

00:16:52Which, of course, is absolute nonsense, but it's...

00:16:55Now, Hugh, you are, in fact, connected with the Gigawave program at the moment, aren't

00:16:58you?

00:16:58The Nissan program?

00:17:00Well, I don't know whether I'm connected with it, but I'm aware of it.

00:17:04Yeah.

00:17:04I know the guys there.

00:17:06You know the guys there, yeah.

00:17:08Just tell us something about why they withdrew the Aston Martin.

00:17:10Well, I'm not part of the wall that goes on there, so I'm not 100% sure, but I believe

00:17:19that there was a...

00:17:20Basically, they had other things to do, and they came first.

00:17:24So, where the Nissan was in relation to the Aston, I don't know.

00:17:27Anyway, what about your plan?

00:17:29What are you doing?

00:17:30What's your future?

00:17:31Well, I'm involved with a number of things, including for rather fun and games.

00:17:37I'm actually involved with a guy with a Lola T70, which is a bit different, but it's

00:17:42a lovely, lovely Meta car.

00:17:44So, yes, I'm involved with Aston Martin and with their GT4, some GT4 cars, and Bob's still

00:17:53around, and he's doing quite well in Group C with his various cars, and a Lola, and that's

00:17:59unfortunately I've been kept busy, which is not really what I've wanted to do at all.

00:18:05So, the GT4 car, what is the main difference between that and this car we're looking at

00:18:09now, the Paul Grayson's GT2?

00:18:12About 200 grand.

00:18:13Yeah.

00:18:14Oh, that's nuts.

00:18:14Which way?

00:18:16Yeah.

00:18:17No, the Paul Grayson car is a GT2 car.

00:18:19Full-on racer, yeah.

00:18:20Full-on race car.

00:18:21And our things are really track-day cars in a way.

00:18:26I don't want to be unkind, but they were built originally, I'm sure, as a track-day

00:18:30car.

00:18:30They're a road car with nothing inside other than a roll cage.

00:18:34So, the basic package comes from ProDrive, and then you buy a new car, which is suitable

00:18:40for track days, and it's also suitable for going racing.

00:18:46We're just going down to the pits.

00:18:47Hold on a moment.

00:18:48Pedro, your car is quite far now, after the mistakes, but do you think it's still possible

00:18:55to do something?

00:18:57It's very difficult.

00:18:58We will push and try to do our best and see where we can arrive.

00:19:03But we are just keeping the same rhythm that the front car, so it's over seven laps behind.

00:19:11It's very difficult.

00:19:11It's a lot of race to go, but very difficult.

00:19:15For you, it's quite difficult.

00:19:17So, how do you pass over to get back in the car and still push?

00:19:22Well, it's very difficult for me, but I have to find motivation and enjoy on the track.

00:19:29Try to enjoy it, because it's a very nice track, very good car to drive.

00:19:32And I try to enjoy myself and do the best for the team.

00:19:36Thank you, Pedro.

00:19:37Thank you very much.

00:19:38So, Pedro's car at the moment in the hands of Christian Cleo, and they're in 20th place.

00:19:42And if you're just joining us for our non-stop-demand coverage, that's a car that had a collision

00:19:47in the pit lane with the sister Pascarolo Peugeot.

00:19:50I mean, how embarrassing was that?

00:19:52And poor Mark had to go...

00:19:54Pedro had to go out and do a whole lap, 12 kilometres with the tire, shredding everything,

00:20:00including turbo suspension and intercoolers.

00:20:03And Hugh, if one of your cars had had that collision in the pit lane, would you have been in a position

00:20:07to stop him going out and call it and get the car rolled back?

00:20:10Well, I would sincerely hope that I wouldn't be stupid enough to let the car out in the first place.

00:20:15I mean, it's just extraordinary that an organisation like that should behave in that way.

00:20:20I mean, why would you employ somebody who lets a car out and takes another one of his sister cars,

00:20:26and it doesn't have any car, but a sister car is even worse.

00:20:29So, that's the first thing.

00:20:32The second thing is, yes, you should have been stopped,

00:20:35because you can't have a collision like that and assume on a track like this

00:20:39that you're going to be OK for the next N kilometres.

00:20:43So, it's perfectly legal to stop him.

00:20:46You can't reverse back and do a three-point turn of parking.

00:20:50But you can stop him, and they should have done, I think.

00:20:53But then I wasn't in the pit lane at the time.

00:20:56He to the moment.

00:20:57I mean, you know, there's a possibility.

00:20:58One of our colleagues suggested he may not even have felt the collision and just continued.

00:21:03Well, he may not have done, but I would have thought the guy who let him out might have seen it,

00:21:07because he's lucky enough to get run over.

00:21:08Well, he's probably not around anymore now.

00:21:10He's probably already on a train on his way back.

00:21:13I was thinking, yeah.

00:21:14But there's always that possibility.

00:21:16Hugh, just to get back to your plans, then, Aston Martin GT4 programme.

00:21:20What about, are we going to see you at Le Mans again?

00:21:21That's what we really want to know.

00:21:23Not until next year.

00:21:25Not until next year.

00:21:26I might be here tomorrow morning, but apart from that, I'm hoping to be back next year.

00:21:30Yeah, but with something.

00:21:31With something, yes, yes, yes.

00:21:32I wouldn't, I don't think I'm going to continue to come back to spectate.

00:21:37It's not the same.

00:21:38It wouldn't be the same without you.

00:21:39It's not so much fun, I can assure you.

00:21:42It's all right if you've never done it before, because I've been speaking to people in places

00:21:46that I haven't been for years, I mean, out in the car park and work, and they have a wonderful time.

00:21:54And it's great to do that, but if you've actually been inside, it's not quite so much fun.

00:21:59But people who've never been here before, they're beginning to get the atmosphere.

00:22:02I actually spoke to Paul Grayson very quickly, in short-term time before he went out,

00:22:07and he's certainly not overruled by it, but he thinks it's a wonderful, wonderful race and occasion.

00:22:17And it's very nice to see guys who have come here for the first time

00:22:21who just don't think, oh, it's another motor race, because it sure as hell isn't.

00:22:24How could you ever consider Le Mans just another motor race?

00:22:28Well, people do.

00:22:29Anybody who thinks that should not be here.

00:22:31Absolutely.

00:22:32If I'm being honest.

00:22:33Yes, it's right.

00:22:34You know, you don't enjoy breathing, isn't it, if you don't enjoy Le Mans?

00:22:37Exactly, exactly.

00:22:38It's sort of the rest of life is just waiting, really, isn't it?

00:22:41Just to update you what's happening at the moment, out on the track,

00:22:44we are still Peugeot 1-2, Stefan Sarazan from David Bradman,

00:22:47third place, Dindo Capello, fourth place, Marco Werner.

00:22:51Peugeot, Peugeot, Audi, Audi, and then the two Lola Aston Martins of Thomas Enger

00:22:55and Jos Verstappen.

00:22:57Let's go back down to the pits, where Justine is waiting for us.

00:23:02Olivier, rentré tout à l'heure parce qu'il y avait un petit problème.

00:23:05Vous avez repris le relais derrière, ça s'est plutôt bien passé.

00:23:07Well, you've just had a problem, Nicolas.

00:23:09Oui, non, ça s'est bien passé.

00:23:10L'intervention était rapide quand Olivier s'arrêtait.

00:23:13Le mécanicien a fait du bon travail, on a pu repartir assez rapidement.

00:23:16Après, les voitures comportent de mieux en mieux,

00:23:18donc je pense que ça va aller dans nos sens.

00:23:20Yeah, well, it's getting on really well, going quickly,

00:23:22and suddenly we...

00:23:23Donc, je pense qu'on va revenir de plus en plus dans le rythme.

00:23:27Towers are just getting better and better as the race goes on,

00:23:29going faster and faster.

00:23:31We've found the pace now,

00:23:35and we've got no problem.

00:23:37We've got to keep going fast and not lose any time.

00:23:43The rest of the competition is quite a long way ahead.

00:23:45Oui, je pense qu'on a une voiture qui est un peu moins performant que les autres.

00:23:48So, the main thing is...

00:23:49Be safe, because we've got less power.

00:23:53Merci, Nicolas.

00:23:54Yeah, we've got to go to the end of tomorrow.

00:23:57Let's see.

00:23:58Just as we saw that, up flashes the sign.

00:24:01Pierre Caffer in trouble.

00:24:04Yeah, it looks like he's not respecting the track limits, it appears,

00:24:07and I think what we're seeing there is a man on a mission,

00:24:10because, you know, Seth Neiman at the moment is the one who's...

00:24:13He's a bit off the pace from what the others were.

00:24:15You know, that car was in the lead.

00:24:16It's moved down to third place now since he's been in.

00:24:18So, I think Pierre is seeing his moment.

00:24:20He's moved the car up to second place,

00:24:23and I think he's a man on a mission trying to catch Raymond Narak,

00:24:26who's just done his fastest lap.

00:24:29Well, not his fastest, the car's fastest lap.

00:24:31That's amazing.

00:24:32Stay with us now.

00:24:33We'll be back with you on Eurosport Live.

00:24:41Welcome back to the Le Mans 24 Hours.

00:24:43You are live with us on Eurosport,

00:24:45and we're just watching this incredible race unfolding now.

00:24:49There's been so much action.

00:24:50It's all about Peugeot at the moment.

00:24:52They're out in front, got almost a lap over the Audis,

00:24:55and we're just noticing some lap times really start to fly.

00:24:59We've seen Dindo Capello do some of his fastest sectors so far,

00:25:03and also the real story there is Raymond Narak in the Porsche,

00:25:06leading that GT2 class at the moment,

00:25:08has just done some of his fastest sectors, his fastest lap,

00:25:11and in fact now has just done another fastest sector time.

00:25:15Now, I think what we're seeing here

00:25:16is that the track is starting to rubber up a bit.

00:25:18We've had a different sort of week.

00:25:20They've not had quite as much running two weeks before

00:25:23to help the track rubber up,

00:25:24and we had a lot of rain on Wednesday.

00:25:26We've had really mixed conditions.

00:25:27Today is the first day of really warm running that we've had.

00:25:31Proper warm weather, lots of cars on the circuit,

00:25:34and I think what we're seeing here

00:25:35is that the track's starting to rubber up,

00:25:36it's starting to come to these drivers,

00:25:38and now the times are starting to come.

00:25:39That's you.

00:25:41I mean, you've been in this position so many times.

00:25:43You get towards the evening,

00:25:44suddenly you find the new cars are going faster and faster,

00:25:47even though you're telling your drivers just to keep it cool.

00:25:50Yeah, it is a problem.

00:25:51It depends.

00:25:52I mean, many of the years I was here,

00:25:54I was with gentlemen drivers,

00:25:56and it's slightly different with them

00:25:58because you want to make sure they realise

00:26:02there was an awfully long time to go,

00:26:03so you have to be very, very careful

00:26:05to make sure they are doing the right thing.

00:26:09And I'm not being rude about my drivers at this stage

00:26:12because this year I don't have any,

00:26:13but they do have a tendency to go quicker and quicker,

00:26:18and then suddenly something bites them

00:26:19because it's here, it's Le Mans,

00:26:21and they're going far, far quicker

00:26:22than they have all year for the previous year.

00:26:26So, yes, you've got to be very careful,

00:26:28but with professional drivers, it's very different.

00:26:30They know exactly what's going on,

00:26:31and if they don't, they shouldn't be here.

00:26:36We're getting back to that thread again, aren't we?

00:26:39Yes, but, yes, the guys are perfectly aware

00:26:43of the track conditions,

00:26:44but you have to be aware of it in the pit lane

00:26:47and make sure that if you need to,

00:26:50you inform your drivers,

00:26:51and if you don't,

00:26:53then you make sure the driver's going in

00:26:54is aware of what the position is.

00:26:56And you just watch that drive,

00:26:58and you have to know where your car is

00:27:01and where your drivers are

00:27:02in relation to the guys around you.

00:27:05If you're at the front,

00:27:06obviously it's a completely different kettle of fish

00:27:08than if you're down the lower part of your category

00:27:11because there you've got to finish,

00:27:14and that's the most important thing.

00:27:16These guys are assuming they will

00:27:17as long as they're thrown at the wall.

00:27:19They're racing to win, aren't they?

00:27:20They're racing to win.

00:27:21Not to finish, they're racing to win.

00:27:22Absolutely.

00:27:23So that is a different situation.

00:27:25Good point.

00:27:26But for most of the guys,

00:27:29the majority of the drivers here

00:27:31are here to be around at 3 o'clock on Sunday afternoon.

00:27:35And they thrash the cars now.

00:27:39And this is just looking at the times coming down,

00:27:41and the team manager's thinking,

00:27:42whoa, hang on a minute, boys.

00:27:43We've got to be careful here

00:27:44because you're not worried now,

00:27:48but at midday or 1 o'clock tomorrow,

00:27:50you're going to be thinking,

00:27:52I wish I hadn't gone quite,

00:27:53and is that funny noise going to be all right,

00:27:56and am I worried about this?

00:27:57There are all sorts of things

00:27:58that you wish to heaven you'd thought about earlier

00:28:01when it comes to 1 o'clock tomorrow.

00:28:03Hindsight's a wonderful gift, isn't it?

00:28:05Exactly.

00:28:06But you have still got them three hours to go.

00:28:08Two hours to go.

00:28:09Now, in this race,

00:28:11we've got up to 30 rookie drivers

00:28:13in this particular race,

00:28:14which is a huge number.

00:28:15It's a lot of people new to the track

00:28:16who haven't had a proper practice weekend

00:28:18like we normally do as well.

00:28:20I mean, in that situation,

00:28:21would you, as the team owner say,

00:28:24you know, would you set them a lap time

00:28:25that you'd want them to do

00:28:26if you had a car full of rookies,

00:28:28saying they're not in the lead, obviously,

00:28:29saying they're at a finish,

00:28:30or would you say,

00:28:31just do a time that you're comfortable at

00:28:34that you think isn't pushing the realms,

00:28:35or how would you approach that situation?

00:28:37Well, the thing about Le Mans

00:28:38is you do have a long time

00:28:39to think about it and talk to drivers.

00:28:41The difficult bit that I've always found

00:28:43is getting the drivers

00:28:43trying to listen to what you say.

00:28:45And even if they do listen,

00:28:46you've then got to make sure

00:28:48that they actually do it.

00:28:50But, yeah, once you've got them under control,

00:28:53then you have a time to do.

00:28:56Right, we're going to go down here

00:28:57from Alex Wurtz.

00:28:58Out is Alex Wurtz,

00:28:59that car, of course,

00:29:01running there in the top five at the moment.

00:29:03Alex, are you still running second?

00:29:06It's a very good start.

00:29:09It could be better, you know,

00:29:10because the safety car came very unfortunate for me.

00:29:14I was just five seconds behind Frank

00:29:17on a different strategy.

00:29:19I wanted to stay out longer than him,

00:29:21also with a different set of tires,

00:29:23so all looked very good for me

00:29:24to sneak the lead after the pit stops.

00:29:27But then the safety car...

00:29:30And these guys decided to take me out of the car.

00:29:32I didn't know why.

00:29:34But anyway, that's the team decision.

00:29:35So now it's Mark and David on P2,

00:29:38so it's still a long race to go.

00:29:40It's okay.

00:29:42Is it for you?

00:29:43Are you allowed to push

00:29:44to get the first place?

00:29:47With the team?

00:29:49I think we...

00:29:50Ask these guys.

00:29:53I want to push them first.

00:29:54But I think we're now switching to a safer strategy.

00:30:01Is it a little bit of frustration?

00:30:04Nah, it's not frustration.

00:30:06But I'm a red driver.

00:30:07I want to lead.

00:30:08I want to win.

00:30:09And right now we had someone put us

00:30:13one little stone in our way

00:30:14with the safety car

00:30:15and we maybe catch up through the night.

00:30:17So, of course, number nine keeps moving.

00:30:21A little bit of frustration?

00:30:23No.

00:30:23Oh, dear, oh, dear.

00:30:24Not only this voice,

00:30:26it's the body language, isn't it?

00:30:27You're not happy.

00:30:28And it's interesting

00:30:28because we're not really

00:30:29that far into a 24-hour race,

00:30:31let's be honest.

00:30:32You know, we're not three hours from the end

00:30:34or something like that

00:30:34and already you can see

00:30:36the confidence in the Peugeot car.

00:30:38I think that's what we're seeing here

00:30:39is they're saying,

00:30:40no, no, no, you know,

00:30:41we can't do it.

00:30:42And we're this many hours off

00:30:43at showing how good they think

00:30:44those cars are

00:30:45and that they're basically assuming

00:30:46that the lead car is going to carry on

00:30:47as it is with no problems at all.

00:30:49Yeah, well,

00:30:50that's what I was saying earlier.

00:30:51They have to assume

00:30:54that these cars are going to finish

00:30:55and they probably will

00:30:56whether they manage to

00:30:57shoot themselves in the foot again

00:30:58is a different question

00:30:59altogether, of course.

00:31:01But interestingly,

00:31:01he just seen that.

00:31:02She asked him what you'd been saying.

00:31:05You know,

00:31:05will you be allowed to race for the win?

00:31:08Well, Peugeot's lead car

00:31:10is all French at the moment

00:31:11and if you've got,

00:31:13hmm,

00:31:14your second car's got an Australian

00:31:15and Austrian

00:31:16and whatever else it is in.

00:31:19Mark, you know,

00:31:20a Spaniard on board.

00:31:21I mean, you know,

00:31:21which would you as Peugeot want to win?

00:31:24Well,

00:31:24I wouldn't dream of suggesting

00:31:27that they would prefer

00:31:27to have their own

00:31:28countrymen win.

00:31:29I'm not going to.

00:31:29I'm leaving that to you.

00:31:31I wouldn't think of that.

00:31:32Anyway,

00:31:32Hugh,

00:31:32thank you very much

00:31:33for coming and joining us.

00:31:34It's a great pleasure.

00:31:34And any messages

00:31:35for anyone at home?

00:31:36No, no,

00:31:37just that I'm still in one piece.

00:31:39Good.

00:31:40It's very kind of you

00:31:40and the dogs are well.

00:31:41The dogs are well.

00:31:42Excellent.

00:31:43We have to ask you that every year

00:31:45because he's going to phone home to me.

00:31:48He's just bringing his watch.

00:31:49Well,

00:31:49thank you very much

00:31:49and we hope to see you back

00:31:51with the team next year.

00:31:52It's very kind of you.

00:31:53Excellent.

00:31:53Certainly try.

00:31:54Thank you, Hugh.

00:31:55Lovely to see you.

00:31:56So,

00:31:57the situation

00:31:57as we have completed

00:31:5974 laps now.

00:32:00We are

00:32:01four and a half hours

00:32:02into the 24 hours.

00:32:04Sarazan from Brabham

00:32:05both for Peugeot,

00:32:06Capello and Werner

00:32:06both for Audi.

00:32:08And Capello,

00:32:09Liz is just pointing out,

00:32:10just done his car's

00:32:11fastest first sector

00:32:12of the race

00:32:13and that's from the start line

00:32:14down to Tetra Rouge.

00:32:15The two Lola Aston Martins.

00:32:17Haven't seen much of them,

00:32:18have we,

00:32:18while we've been on air.

00:32:20Thomas Enger,

00:32:21Thomas the Tank Enger

00:32:22and Jos Verstappen.

00:32:24Those two.

00:32:24Very neat,

00:32:25isn't it,

00:32:25at the moment?

00:32:26You've got the two Peugeots,

00:32:27the two Audis

00:32:28and the two Lola Aston Martin.

00:32:29Those six factory cars

00:32:31still dominating it

00:32:32and behind them,

00:32:33Peugeot,

00:32:33Audi,

00:32:34Audi,

00:32:34Audi.

00:32:35And then Pescarolo

00:32:36in 11th.

00:32:38Juan Barbosa,

00:32:39the best of the petrol cars

00:32:41in the Pescarolo,

00:32:43Pescarolo there.

00:32:45Well,

00:32:45he's the best of the

00:32:46open top petrol cars.

00:32:48Yeah, sorry,

00:32:48the open petrol cars.

00:32:49Yeah, but...

00:32:50Cape has done it again.

00:32:51He's done it again

00:32:52and this time

00:32:53he's gotten a stop and go.

00:32:54Before it was a warning,

00:32:55this time it's a proper

00:32:55stop and go.

00:32:56They will not at all

00:32:57be happy about that

00:32:58because he's actually

00:33:00closing the gap a bit

00:33:01between him and Raymond Narax

00:33:02so that's not going to

00:33:03make that team happy.

00:33:05Especially after the warning

00:33:06which no doubt the team

00:33:07has definitely radioed

00:33:08through to him

00:33:08and said look,

00:33:09you have to respect it.

00:33:10I'm guessing that's down

00:33:11at the Ford chicane.

00:33:12I'm not sure that's my

00:33:13estimation as he's

00:33:14jumping straight over

00:33:14the top of that.

00:33:15Yeah.

00:33:16Which frankly ends up

00:33:17being very hard on a car

00:33:18in this race as well.

00:33:19If you continuously

00:33:21jump the big curbs

00:33:22in a car over and over

00:33:22again,

00:33:23sometimes it catches

00:33:24up with you.

00:33:25David Bradman into the pits.

00:33:26He's coming in for

00:33:27what will be his

00:33:28sixth,

00:33:29seventh stop.

00:33:29He's had six stops

00:33:30already in that car

00:33:31and the team just

00:33:33checking everything out.

00:33:34Refueling,

00:33:35just checking the

00:33:36driver's stuff then.

00:33:37They're doing the

00:33:37bottom.

00:33:37Well,

00:33:38we've got the number

00:33:38one in as well

00:33:39at the same time.

00:33:40That's not number one,

00:33:41the number eight,

00:33:42the race leader.

00:33:43Bringing Sarazan

00:33:44and Bradman at the

00:33:45same time.

00:33:45Is that always a good

00:33:47thing?

00:33:47Well,

00:33:47I would have thought

00:33:48that generally

00:33:48Persia would try and

00:33:49split them apart to be

00:33:50honest to try and keep

00:33:51it easier for them.

00:33:52But,

00:33:52you know,

00:33:52we don't know really

00:33:53what's going on.

00:33:54Maybe they've

00:33:54inadvertently come onto

00:33:55the same lap

00:33:56or maybe they needed to.

00:33:57You know,

00:33:57it's hard to determine

00:33:58what's going on down

00:33:58there.

00:33:59But you would have

00:34:00thought ideally they'd

00:34:00want to stagger them

00:34:01at least a lap apart

00:34:02so that they've got

00:34:03room should they need

00:34:04it.

00:34:04Well,

00:34:04particularly after what

00:34:05happened earlier with

00:34:06two of the Peugeots

00:34:08run by separate teams.

00:34:09Yes.

00:34:10Certainly they did do it

00:34:11right where the lead

00:34:12car in the pits,

00:34:13the lead car in the pits

00:34:14came in first so that

00:34:15at least he was able to

00:34:16go away easily and the

00:34:17second car could push

00:34:18off.

00:34:18if they'd done it the

00:34:19other way around then

00:34:19it would have been

00:34:20really difficult.

00:34:20Yes,

00:34:21absolutely right.

00:34:22So just to update you

00:34:23as well,

00:34:23the Essex Porsche

00:34:25Spider,

00:34:26Christian Poulsen,

00:34:27the world touring car

00:34:28driver on board that

00:34:29at the moment and then

00:34:30the other car,

00:34:32the Navi Go Porsche

00:34:33in the hands of

00:34:34Kunimoto-san.

00:34:36That's looking very,

00:34:38very good for them,

00:34:39isn't it?

00:34:39Kisuke Kunimoto,

00:34:40the man who won the

00:34:41Macau Grand Prix last

00:34:42year and has been a

00:34:43real star in Japan in

00:34:45Super GT and in

00:34:46Formula Nippon.

00:34:47Just having a look

00:34:47further down,

00:34:48see who's still

00:34:49leading GT1.

00:34:50It's García in the

00:34:5263 Corvette and

00:34:54Raymond Rack,

00:34:54as we said,

00:34:55he's going to start

00:34:56pulling away a bit

00:34:56as Pierre Cappé

00:34:57takes a penalty.

00:34:58We're going to take

00:34:59a penalty.

00:34:59Quick break.

00:35:00We'll be back.

00:35:03Well,

00:35:04we were talking

00:35:04earlier about

00:35:05Hancock and their

00:35:06first appearance at

00:35:07Le Mans.

00:35:07They were lying third

00:35:08in class at that

00:35:09time,

00:35:09but this at the

00:35:10moment is Hancock's

00:35:12effort.

00:35:12Alan Simonson,

00:35:13the man who almost

00:35:14won the Le Mans

00:35:15series with Rob Bell

00:35:16last year,

00:35:17but then had to go

00:35:18off and do a race

00:35:19in Australia.

00:35:19Lost the title.

00:35:20Rob got it.

00:35:21But this car's got a

00:35:22puncture and they are

00:35:24going around the track

00:35:24there.

00:35:25And look,

00:35:25problem here.

00:35:26Is that the track

00:35:27breaking up, Liz?

00:35:27It is.

00:35:28It's breaking up on

00:35:29the outside of

00:35:30Mung San.

00:35:31This is going to be a

00:35:31major problem,

00:35:32isn't it?

00:35:32That is not good.

00:35:33I mean,

00:35:34definitely you wouldn't

00:35:34want to be running

00:35:35over that.

00:35:35And judging from the

00:35:36tire wear that we're

00:35:37seeing over that

00:35:38paint, you can see

00:35:39how much tire has

00:35:39been put down there.

00:35:40That's a spot where

00:35:41cars are going over

00:35:42the top.

00:35:43So that could

00:35:43potentially cause some

00:35:44problems, maybe some

00:35:45punctures.

00:35:46Certainly could be

00:35:46bad.

00:35:47Look at the lumps

00:35:47there.

00:35:48Might already be

00:35:49causing punctures.

00:35:49Someone throws

00:35:50one of those up,

00:35:51could go for a

00:35:51windscreen.

00:35:52Oh, no.

00:35:53That's big.

00:35:54Is this...

00:35:55And right in the

00:35:56middle of pit

00:35:56entrance.

00:35:57This is one of

00:35:58the Eureka cars

00:35:59again, isn't it?

00:36:00Who's out in the

00:36:00Eureka cars at the

00:36:01moment?

00:36:01That's going to be

00:36:02finished.

00:36:02That'll be

00:36:03finished, I reckon.

00:36:04Nothing left.

00:36:06It's not Eureka,

00:36:07is it?

00:36:07It's not Eureka,

00:36:08no.

00:36:08What have we got

00:36:09here?

00:36:09Did it go crazy?

00:36:10Oh, no.

00:36:10Oh, dear.

00:36:11It is.

00:36:12Isn't it?

00:36:15No, it's...

00:36:16That's the radical.

00:36:18It's the radical.

00:36:18That's the radical.

00:36:19The Brookladdy car

00:36:19on Dunlop tyres,

00:36:20yeah.

00:36:21That shouldn't have

00:36:22happened, should it?

00:36:22Now, what happened

00:36:23here?

00:36:23The Lola just didn't

00:36:24give him any

00:36:24space, did it?

00:36:25That's really not

00:36:27nice.

00:36:27Who's in the 009 car?

00:36:29That was a 009 car,

00:36:29wasn't it?

00:36:30Yeah, that's Stuart

00:36:31Hall on board

00:36:32that car.

00:36:34That was a big

00:36:35mistake.

00:36:36Well, that's...

00:36:37Are we going to be

00:36:38in a safety car

00:36:39situation?

00:36:39I think that's

00:36:40on the back of

00:36:41Aston, I'm afraid,

00:36:42I think.

00:36:42That was Tim

00:36:43Greaves in the car.

00:36:44Tim making his

00:36:45return to Le Mans.

00:36:48I suppose it was

00:36:49Tim aiming to come

00:36:49into pit lane.

00:36:50He looked very

00:36:50slow.

00:36:51You know,

00:36:52normally you would

00:36:52push hard right

00:36:53up to the entrance

00:36:54of the pit lane.

00:36:55Oh, that's fantastic

00:36:55if he's moving.

00:36:56Well, look at that.

00:36:58Give me a push

00:36:58back, lad.

00:36:59Go on, Tim.

00:37:01So, Tim was

00:37:02just behind the

00:37:02Corvette.

00:37:03There's not much

00:37:03he could do,

00:37:04is there?

00:37:04And Aston just

00:37:05gave him no

00:37:06space.

00:37:06Maybe Stuart thought

00:37:08he was going in

00:37:08the pits, and

00:37:09when he got there,

00:37:09he was still there.

00:37:11I don't know.

00:37:11That or he was

00:37:12trying to not let

00:37:13the Audi come by.

00:37:13Did you see it

00:37:14looked like the Audi

00:37:15was trying to come

00:37:15past?

00:37:16Perhaps he was

00:37:16trying to keep

00:37:17him from doing

00:37:17that?

00:37:18I don't know

00:37:18if he just missed

00:37:19him entirely.

00:37:20Well, I think

00:37:20Stuart's going to

00:37:21be in trouble

00:37:21with the powers

00:37:22that be for that.

00:37:23Yeah, I think

00:37:24they will get

00:37:24some sort of

00:37:25penalty for that,

00:37:25I would have thought.

00:37:26I mean, unfortunately

00:37:27for Aston, it's

00:37:28the car that's

00:37:29had all the

00:37:29trouble, and it's

00:37:30down in 38th

00:37:30place, so it's

00:37:31not going to

00:37:32affect their

00:37:32ballgame.

00:37:33So the safety

00:37:34car out, as we

00:37:34said, and they're

00:37:35going to have to

00:37:35clear that up.

00:37:36Second safety

00:37:37car of the race,

00:37:38and that's being

00:37:39called at four

00:37:40hours and 38

00:37:41minutes on lap.

00:37:44Lap, lap, lap,

00:37:45this is really

00:37:47good effort on

00:37:48all this part

00:37:49here.

00:37:49He's coming.

00:37:50Luckily, that's

00:37:51happened to him

00:37:51right in front of

00:37:52pit lane.

00:37:53So if you're

00:37:54going to have an

00:37:54accident like that,

00:37:55pit lane is where

00:37:56you want it to

00:37:56happen.

00:37:56Yeah, and he's

00:37:57got the car back.

00:37:58Good lad.

00:38:00On almost two

00:38:01wheels, it looks

00:38:02like.

00:38:02Yeah, that car was

00:38:05running in the

00:38:06LMP2 class,

00:38:08looking down

00:38:0935th place.

00:38:10So, yellow is

00:38:15all around the

00:38:15circuit.

00:38:19So we're going

00:38:20to, having

00:38:21mistaken that car

00:38:22for the Raker

00:38:23car at first with

00:38:23the red and yellow

00:38:24colors, we are, I

00:38:25believe, going to

00:38:25go to Bruno

00:38:277 minutes.

00:38:28So we're looking

00:38:28at the 009 car,

00:38:30which is the car

00:38:31which perhaps

00:38:32unwittingly calls

00:38:33that.

00:38:33Let's go down.

00:38:34Bruno Sander is in

00:38:35the pits, waiting

00:38:35to talk to Justine.

00:38:37Bruno, it was

00:38:38hard to go after

00:38:39Stéphane.

00:38:40We had a little

00:38:41good problem, so

00:38:42how was your

00:38:42stand?

00:38:43It was alright.

00:38:44The car was

00:38:44fine.

00:38:45There was no

00:38:46after a match

00:38:48after Stéphane's

00:38:49crash, but I

00:38:50mean, I think the

00:38:52circuit is getting

00:38:53better for us.

00:38:54The car is quite

00:38:55consistent, so it's

00:38:56a long race.

00:38:57It happens to us,

00:38:58it can happen to

00:38:58anyone else, so we

00:38:59just keep on racing

00:39:00and do the best

00:39:01we can.

00:39:02Was it okay?

00:39:03You didn't have

00:39:03too much pressure

00:39:04after Stéphane going

00:39:05or?

00:39:05No, of course

00:39:06not.

00:39:06I was trying to

00:39:08save as much

00:39:08fuel as I could.

00:39:09It was actually

00:39:09good technique because

00:39:12we could do one more

00:39:13lap than normally in

00:39:14each stint, and this

00:39:15can count to one or

00:39:17two pit stops less

00:39:18towards the end of

00:39:19the race, so it's

00:39:20good.

00:39:21So your first two

00:39:22stints of Les 24

00:39:23Hors du Mans was

00:39:24good?

00:39:24Yeah, it was good.

00:39:26Obviously, it's better

00:39:27if you're overtaking

00:39:28everybody rather than

00:39:29being overtaken a few

00:39:29times, but nothing's

00:39:31perfect.

00:39:31Thank you, Bruno.

00:39:33So Stuart Hall then

00:39:34just saw the car again

00:39:36and what it actually

00:39:37looked like seeing

00:39:38another replay was that

00:39:39he saw the Audi

00:39:40current behind him,

00:39:41thought I'll get out

00:39:41of his way and just

00:39:42didn't take account of

00:39:43the fact that Tim

00:39:45Greaves, who of course

00:39:45is boss of Radical,

00:39:47that he was heading,

00:39:48he thought he was

00:39:49heading for the pit lane

00:39:49perhaps, and thought

00:39:50will he be gone when I

00:39:51get there?

00:39:51I think somehow he's

00:39:52just misjudged where

00:39:53Tim actually was and

00:39:54it's all gone a bit

00:39:55horribly wrong.

00:39:57Knowing Stuart, he is

00:39:58going to be so mortified

00:39:59this has happened

00:40:00because it's the last

00:40:01thing Stuart wants

00:40:02he knows Tim.

00:40:03I mean, they've raced

00:40:05together over the

00:40:05years and you just

00:40:07don't want that,

00:40:08whether he's a friend

00:40:09or not, it's awful.

00:40:11It's the first thing I

00:40:12was thinking, because

00:40:12Stuart will be so

00:40:13conscious of that and

00:40:14he's such a strong

00:40:15driver in himself and

00:40:16thoroughly deserves the

00:40:17drive he's got in that

00:40:18Aston, so I'm hoping

00:40:20that he'll just pull

00:40:20himself together and

00:40:21keep pushing hard and

00:40:22I suppose these things

00:40:24happen, but it is a

00:40:24shame.

00:40:25So this is a general

00:40:26signal course for

00:40:27everyone to come in

00:40:28just like in NASCAR

00:40:28racing, as soon as

00:40:29you've got a yellow

00:40:30just take advantage.

00:40:31Chris Parsons, Chris

00:40:33you did the Legends

00:40:34race this morning,

00:40:35you've been wandering

00:40:36around since then and

00:40:37looking nice and

00:40:38suntanned.

00:40:39So, what have you

00:40:41seen today?

00:40:42Oh, the people who've

00:40:44not been to Le Mans

00:40:44don't realise how many

00:40:46people attend this

00:40:47race.

00:40:48I think last year it

00:40:49was somewhere like

00:40:49270,000 people and

00:40:52the number of people

00:40:53in the campsites just

00:40:55enjoying themselves,

00:40:57buying ice creams,

00:40:58buying a lot of beer,

00:41:00some very red people.

00:41:02They reckon that there

00:41:03are 75,000 British

00:41:04here, most of them

00:41:06camping, and the

00:41:07amusing part is there

00:41:08are meant to be 45,000

00:41:10Danes.

00:41:1125,000.

00:41:1225,000 Danes, and they

00:41:14come in buses and they

00:41:16bring their tents and

00:41:18they have a party.

00:41:20In fact, Tom

00:41:20Christensen was asked

00:41:21it the other day at the

00:41:23Audi press conference,

00:41:24had he said that he'd

00:41:26been invited to the

00:41:27Danish campsite where

00:41:28there were 7,000 Danes

00:41:30camping, and he said,

00:41:31no, I didn't dare go

00:41:33there.

00:41:33It's too dangerous and

00:41:35wild.

00:41:35Of course, in years

00:41:37past, after Tom

00:41:38Christensen's won, I've

00:41:39been driving back to

00:41:41Calais, and I've come

00:41:42across campers with

00:41:43signs in the back

00:41:43saying, Christ is

00:41:44risen.

00:41:45I love that.

00:41:45It's great.

00:41:47But it's all very good

00:41:49natured.

00:41:50Lovely on the Friday

00:41:51because, as everybody

00:41:53knows, qualifying, it

00:41:55was on Thursday, testing

00:41:56on Wednesday.

00:41:58Friday's a free day.

00:41:59People enjoy themselves.

00:42:01Teams are working on

00:42:01the cars.

00:42:03Sponsors are having

00:42:03their do's, and the

00:42:06spectators enjoy

00:42:07themselves, and good

00:42:09fun, and a lot of

00:42:11beer is consumed.

00:42:12Now, Chris, you've got

00:42:13family in the city, and

00:42:14just watching Tim's very

00:42:17nasty moment again, but

00:42:18he's got the car back to

00:42:19the pits, but you've got

00:42:20family in the city, and

00:42:21they have said, though,

00:42:22that because there was

00:42:23no test day this year,

00:42:24the race lost a lot of

00:42:25publicity, and they were

00:42:27worried that perhaps the

00:42:28French attendance would

00:42:29be down a bit at the

00:42:30race.

00:42:30I don't know.

00:42:32There was certainly on

00:42:33Thursday night, there

00:42:34were a lot of French

00:42:35people, the paddock seemed

00:42:37to be absolutely jam-packed

00:42:39with people looking at

00:42:41the stalls and everything

00:42:42else.

00:42:44We'll see when the figures

00:42:45are actually released, but

00:42:47certainly the area will

00:42:49have lost quite a lot of

00:42:50income because, of course,

00:42:51if the teams are here for

00:42:52two and a half, three

00:42:54weeks, which they were with

00:42:55the test weekend, they had

00:42:57to stay in hotels, they

00:42:58spent money in the

00:43:00restaurants, they spend

00:43:01money everywhere, and

00:43:02that money will now only

00:43:04be spent in one week, not

00:43:06in three.

00:43:07What you're seeing here,

00:43:07you're seeing the second

00:43:08safety car train now

00:43:09coming into the pits, two

00:43:10safety cars called out

00:43:12here at Le Mans.

00:43:13They're going to rebuild

00:43:14that tire wall.

00:43:15That's the driver's safety

00:43:16has to become before

00:43:18anything else.

00:43:18Yeah, I mean, that'll

00:43:19hold the safety car above

00:43:20anything else, really, is

00:43:21they won't restart this

00:43:22race until they're

00:43:23absolutely confident that

00:43:24the safety wall is back as

00:43:25best as it can be,

00:43:26especially there, right on

00:43:27the entrance to pit lane.

00:43:29It's somewhere where you

00:43:29never know if that sort of

00:43:30thing can happen.

00:43:31It's where so many cars go

00:43:33through and in and out,

00:43:33you can't risk that.

00:43:35So Antonio Garcia just

00:43:36coming into the pits here,

00:43:37just a normal stop.

00:43:39So, yeah, everyone's getting

00:43:46fettled then.

00:43:47And Chris, just to continue

00:43:48the thread for a moment,

00:43:48if people haven't been to

00:43:49Le Mans before, the big

00:43:51change over the last two

00:43:52years is the trams, aren't

00:43:53they?

00:43:53It's making life so much

00:43:55easier from the city centre,

00:43:57the stations, out to the

00:43:58circuit.

00:43:58Yes, you could come to

00:44:01Le Mans quite easily by train

00:44:02now because the Eurostar to

00:44:06Paris and the TGV down from

00:44:08Paris, it takes about six

00:44:10hours in all, which is

00:44:11quicker than by car, and you

00:44:13can then get the tram out to

00:44:15the circuit.

00:44:16But, of course, the problem

00:44:17is where do you stay?

00:44:18All the hotels and guest

00:44:20houses are booked from here

00:44:22to Paris.

00:44:23So that's the difficult part

00:44:24about it, which is why so

00:44:25many people bring their

00:44:26tents.

00:44:27Yeah, or if they're not

00:44:27booked, of course, they want

00:44:28seven nights of money if you're

00:44:30only staying for three.

00:44:31So anyway, let's we'll come

00:44:33back to that theme in a

00:44:34little while.

00:44:35Just having a look here at

00:44:37the 82 car being fettled.

00:44:38We're going down to the

00:44:39pits.

00:44:45This is Mark Ross, Stan

00:44:46driver, one of the drivers

00:44:48of Brooklyn.

00:44:50He said, I just can't

00:44:51believe what we saw.

00:44:53I'm completely shocked.

00:44:54So is Tim.

00:45:01There was more violent than

00:45:03the usual sort of crash.

00:45:09I hope they're going to be

00:45:11penalized for that.

00:45:12It's just incredible what

00:45:13they did.

00:45:14It's true that it's still a

00:45:15little bit dangerous when

00:45:16there are differences like

00:45:17that, but it's true that we

00:45:18see the head cars who

00:45:19sometimes take risks

00:45:20inconsiderate, especially

00:45:21face to the vehicles.

00:45:22It's really dangerous.

00:45:23The different levels of

00:45:24cars, the faster cars should

00:45:27always have more respect for

00:45:29the slower cars.

00:45:36And when you're overtaking, the

00:45:37onus is on you to be careful.

00:45:39That's the rule here.

00:45:40So the driver obviously wasn't

00:45:49paying enough attention.

00:45:52Merci, et bonne course.

00:45:53Merci beaucoup.

00:45:54Car's pretty wrecked, but we're

00:45:56going to go back out, go

00:45:57faster and finish the race.

00:45:58Well, in comes the 0-0-9 car.

00:46:00I don't know if we haven't seen

00:46:01a penalty yet to Chris coming

00:46:03up for that, but I'm sure he

00:46:04will be.

00:46:05They've got to.

00:46:05You can't just ignore that.

00:46:06Yes, unfortunately, he caught

00:46:08him just on the front corner.

00:46:11I know it was probably his

00:46:12fault, but he only just caught

00:46:13the car and it just pitched

00:46:17him straight into the barriers,

00:46:19which was very unfortunate.

00:46:21And it looked a very fast

00:46:22accident.

00:46:24Yeah, here it is again then.

00:46:25Stuart Hall just quite unaware

00:46:27of the radicals there and bang,

00:46:28knocks him into the wall.

00:46:31I'm sure Liz just trying to get

00:46:32out of the way of the Audi that's

00:46:33coming up behind him.

00:46:34I think he was completely

00:46:35focused on the Audi and just

00:46:37misjudged how close the radical

00:46:39was and that he actually

00:46:40wasn't past him.

00:46:41I think that's part of it is he

00:46:42maybe thought he was past him

00:46:43and just misjudged it really.

00:46:45I think it was just a mistake.

00:46:46So Mark Rostand just saying to

00:46:47us that, you know, they've got

00:46:49to penalise the Aston, you

00:46:50know, he said the onus has to

00:46:52be on the faster car.

00:46:53I have to be honest in it.

00:46:55I mean, I love Stuart and I

00:46:56think he's a super driver, but

00:46:57I have to be honest, I do agree.

00:46:58I think he deserves, you know,

00:46:59some sort of penalty there for

00:47:00that because, I mean, it was a

00:47:02mistake and it caused a

00:47:03massive amount of damage to a

00:47:05car that was completely just

00:47:07out of any sync with them at

00:47:08all.

00:47:09He was just doing his own

00:47:09thing.

00:47:10He wasn't doing anything wrong.

00:47:11So I think there has to be a

00:47:12penalty there.

00:47:13We're under safety car still

00:47:14then at the moment and just

00:47:15looking down through the

00:47:16field list to see where the

00:47:17number 25 car is, the

00:47:20RML car.

00:47:24Having a good run this

00:47:25afternoon today, aren't there?

00:47:26Here we are, Chris Dyson on

00:47:28board that car at the moment

00:47:29in 22nd place and that car is

00:47:32running fourth at the moment in

00:47:34LMP2.

00:47:35And just coincidentally, as we're

00:47:36talking about Chris Dyson, who

00:47:38should come upstairs, but Mr.

00:47:39Imps for himself, Rob Dyson.

00:47:41Rob, good evening and great to

00:47:43have you here on Eurosport.

00:47:44Here we are.

00:47:44Gosh, it's here we are at Le Mans.

00:47:47What a phenomenal event.

00:47:49I did this race in 86 before they

00:47:52altered the track and put the

00:47:54canes in Mulsanne and the changes

00:47:57in the Dunlop curve was literally

00:48:00a curve and not a, it didn't have

00:48:03quite the switchback that it has

00:48:05now and you went down through the

00:48:06historic S's and came out onto the

00:48:09straightaway and it was one of the

00:48:12most interesting experiences I've

00:48:16ever had in my life and so I've

00:48:17been back twice, twice since, once

00:48:20when Chris did it in 2004 and then

00:48:22this year.

00:48:23And of course, Rob, you're the

00:48:24perfect person to ask the difference

00:48:25between the Rolex 24 at Daytona and

00:48:27the 24 hours at Le Mans.

00:48:30I think, I will tell you, I'm really

00:48:34unimpressed with the way people are

00:48:36handling their pit work in this track.

00:48:40I would say that this, the 24 hour

00:48:45Daytona is a harder race.

00:48:47It's got more traffic and it's a lot

00:48:48tighter.

00:48:49Here, there's enough places to air out

00:48:52and the only thing you have to do

00:48:54here is just be a little more

00:48:55patient, which doesn't seem to be

00:48:57what anybody's doing, but you know

00:48:59that you drive your own race.

00:49:01But I will tell you, I was, I'm so

00:49:03impressed with the pace that these

00:49:05guys run, positively in one respect

00:49:09but negatively in another.

00:49:10It seems that there's no sense of

00:49:11restraint.

00:49:12The first 45 minutes, you know, we

00:49:15saw cars getting all over the place.

00:49:18Then the accident with the two

00:49:19Peugeots in the pits, I mean, that

00:49:21was just inexcusable.

00:49:23I just couldn't believe it.

00:49:24Well, Liz, it shows all the planning

00:49:26you do and all the practice, you just

00:49:27cannot allow for a little mistake

00:49:30like that, can you?

00:49:31No, I mean, look how much, that's

00:49:32basically ruined their Le Mans, let's

00:49:33be honest.

00:49:34And something so silly as that, where

00:49:36they were just let out at the wrong

00:49:38time and unfortunately it is on the

00:49:40back of the guy who leads you out, as

00:49:42Rob would know, you know, that's your

00:49:43job.

00:49:44As a driver, you're looking at your

00:49:46crew chief to take you out.

00:49:47You're not expecting to need to look

00:49:48in your mirrors, you're expecting to

00:49:49be safe.

00:49:50And it wasn't a mystery, I think

00:49:53we're going back to action, huh?

00:49:54Yeah, we're going green.

00:49:56It wasn't a mystery that the car that

00:49:58was coming in was one of the team

00:49:59cars.

00:50:00So it's kind of like let him pull in

00:50:01and then let the other guy go out.

00:50:03Exactly.

00:50:03I mean, it was just, I agree with

00:50:05Liz, when you're a driver, you do

00:50:07exactly what you're told.

00:50:08And in this case, Pedro did exactly

00:50:11what he was told and unfortunately

00:50:14took him really out of contention.

00:50:16We're just going to get on to the pits

00:50:18and hear from someone from the

00:50:20Aston Martin 009 car.

00:50:28We asked Carol Primat about the

00:50:30problem with the other car.

00:50:31We just saw what happened.

00:50:33I wasn't in the car, but I saw that

00:50:35there was an Audi, a Peugeot,

00:50:37who arrived behind Stuart.

00:50:39And he was passing an LMP2.

00:50:42I think he's already overtaking LMP2 car.

00:50:48I think he saw the Audi from behind.

00:50:49He said Peugeot, I meant the Audi,

00:50:51which was coming up fast behind.

00:50:56So he tried to stay on that side,

00:50:59but hit the LMP2 car.

00:51:03It's just one of those race problems.

00:51:07Somebody moved.

00:51:07And we asked if they had any other

00:51:16problems apart from that.

00:51:19They said the first ship system wasn't too bad.

00:51:23They managed to start climbing the rankings

00:51:24again after alternator problems.

00:51:26Yeah, we didn't, things didn't work out for me

00:51:38as I quite wanted.

00:51:39And then it's been a hard race for us.

00:51:44The other two Aston's very, very fast.

00:51:52We tried to keep all three cars together,

00:51:54but it's trying to keep the rhythm

00:51:59since the start of the race.

00:52:04Still a long, long way to go.

00:52:08Got a job to do.

00:52:11I don't think we're going to see a podium

00:52:13at the end.

00:52:13That's a bit of understatement, Rob,

00:52:15I think, isn't it?

00:52:15That car is at the moment way,

00:52:18way down the order.

00:52:19They're running in 37th place.

00:52:22They haven't got a hope, have they?

00:52:23It's a bit ambitious, though.

00:52:25But, you know, I love Harold's optimism.

00:52:27I have to give him credit for that.

00:52:28So, yeah, way to look on the bright side of that.

00:52:31That's the way you have to be in racing.

00:52:33If you're not, if you don't think you can win the race

00:52:36until the checkered flag drops,

00:52:38then you're in the wrong line of work.

00:52:39It's a remarkable discipline that you have to have.

00:52:46That it's got to be you're ready to go

00:52:47and you're going to participate.

00:52:49And, by golly, nobody's won the race yet.

00:52:51And you give it as hard a go as you can.

00:52:54And that's the way we've always done it.

00:52:56And it pays off often enough

00:52:59that you always keep coming back.

00:53:01That's the key.

00:53:02Well, it's brought you enough success, hasn't it?

00:53:03And I think that attitude has definitely proved itself

00:53:05to be the right one for your team.

00:53:06Well, you've got to have it with the guys, too.

00:53:09The guys all have to have a never give up,

00:53:13a never quit kind of attitude.

00:53:15And if something gets untoward,

00:53:17you've got to repair it and get back out there.

00:53:19And that's how we've won several championships

00:53:21because every race is part of a continuum.

00:53:23Although this event is clearly a head and shoulders

00:53:27above all of them.

00:53:28I mean, it's just a remarkable, you know,

00:53:31there are two or three great races on the calendar.

00:53:34And this is clearly one of them.

00:53:37I think what took us by surprise a little bit, Rob,

00:53:39is that Chris is only his second Le Mans.

00:53:42It feels like he's been coming for years.

00:53:44Yeah, I think what was interesting

00:53:46is he did a couple of races in Europe.

00:53:48He came over and did a race at Silverstone.

00:53:51I think he did one at Spa as well.

00:53:53And did fairly well, actually.

00:53:55And I don't know why he...

00:53:59This was a deal that he's doing.

00:54:03Chris is doing the deal with Mazda.

00:54:05And they brought him over on this

00:54:06as part of our continuum of our Mazda project.

00:54:10So he was able...

00:54:11They selected him to come on over and race with Ray,

00:54:13who's a terrific competitor and a great car owner

00:54:16with a great team.

00:54:18And so that created the opportunity for Chris to come back.

00:54:22But I was surprised that in 2004,

00:54:24he did a great job with the Ann Lammers.

00:54:27Finished seventh, highest finishing American.

00:54:29And there aren't very many Americans here.

00:54:31I was really surprised.

00:54:32I looked down the entry list,

00:54:34and there weren't as many Yanks as there...

00:54:37I think there normally is.

00:54:39I was kind of surprised.

00:54:40But the key to it is

00:54:43that he does a very disciplined job here

00:54:46and doesn't get caught up in it.

00:54:47And that's the key to this race.

00:54:50Wouldn't you say, Liz?

00:54:51Oh, absolutely.

00:54:52I think you just have to keep your head around it.

00:54:53And, you know, it's patience.

00:54:55You have to be patient here

00:54:56and realize that if you're going to lose a couple seconds,

00:54:59you know, to wait that minute longer

00:55:01to pass the slower car on the straight where it's safe,

00:55:04if you're not sure if they've seen you,

00:55:05then that's better than spending 45 minutes in the pits.

00:55:08When I did the race in 86,

00:55:11with Richard Lloyd,

00:55:14and it was a terrific experience,

00:55:15Reinhold Joost came up to me,

00:55:17and I had met him on a couple of occasions.

00:55:20And Reinhold Joost came up to me,

00:55:22and I said,

00:55:23look, you've done this race a lot of times.

00:55:25What's the biggest hint you can give me?

00:55:27And he said,

00:55:28stay one foot away from the curbs.

00:55:32Stay one foot away from the curbs.

00:55:35Here we go.

00:55:36Audi in the garage.

00:55:37This is not going to be good for them.

00:55:39Which number is it?

00:55:40Number three car.

00:55:41Number three.

00:55:41Graham Goodwin from DailySportsCar.com

00:55:43has just popped in,

00:55:44and thank you very much,

00:55:45Graham,

00:55:45for that information.

00:55:46And as we've told you so many times before,

00:55:48get all the race information,

00:55:50latest news on DSC.com,

00:55:51and it's a great sight.

00:55:54They've not had the easiest race

00:55:55as a number three car.

00:55:56They've had a couple problems already.

00:55:57Graham's just added,

00:55:58they've had a slow lap,

00:55:59slow in lap.

00:56:00So this is the number three car,

00:56:01which is,

00:56:01again,

00:56:02it's the one that's had the bad luck,

00:56:04isn't it?

00:56:04So far,

00:56:05it's like the Aston Martins.

00:56:07That last lap was

00:56:08the five minutes zero six,

00:56:11and, yeah,

00:56:11it's not looking good,

00:56:12is it?

00:56:13Again,

00:56:13Rob,

00:56:13what we've picked up tonight a lot

00:56:16is that this new design of the Audi,

00:56:17the front nose,

00:56:18seems to be collecting any rubbish

00:56:20that's around the circuit.

00:56:21Yeah,

00:56:21I will admit,

00:56:22it's a terribly unique

00:56:24kind of front-end treatment.

00:56:26It reminded me of the Panos

00:56:27a little bit.

00:56:30And I will tell you

00:56:32that when they raced at Sebring,

00:56:34the car was very impressive,

00:56:35but they did apparently

00:56:37have a little,

00:56:38some problems with refuse

00:56:40and things getting in the front end.

00:56:41So it's,

00:56:42it's something that I guess

00:56:44they figured either

00:56:44wasn't going to be a problem

00:56:46or that they could get around it somehow.

00:56:47And of course,

00:56:48the more rubbish you get in,

00:56:48the more cooling problems

00:56:49you're going to have.

00:56:50And we're also hearing

00:56:51that they have got cooling problems.

00:56:53Absolutely.

00:56:53And they run,

00:56:54they are running,

00:56:55as everybody is,

00:56:56they're running these,

00:56:56these engines

00:56:57and these cars so hard

00:56:59that any slight variation

00:57:03in the operating temperatures

00:57:04could cause some real problems.

00:57:06One of which can be

00:57:06that you lose power,

00:57:07but the other thing is,

00:57:08is that you lose reliability as well.

00:57:10Right.

00:57:10Well,

00:57:10just as we're talking there,

00:57:11we've just seen

00:57:12for the first time in this race

00:57:13a change in the LMP2 lead

00:57:15and it's,

00:57:16Kunimoto-san

00:57:17has just gone cast

00:57:18Christian Poulsen.

00:57:19How about that?

00:57:20And that is after 80 laps of racing,

00:57:22that first change.

00:57:25Yeah,

00:57:26they've just changed.

00:57:26Here they are.

00:57:27Yep.

00:57:27So the Japanese car

00:57:29in front at the moment.

00:57:31So,

00:57:31Rob,

00:57:32you were racing these cars

00:57:33last year,

00:57:35the Dyson Porsches.

00:57:36You've made the change

00:57:37to Lola Mazda.

00:57:39Why?

00:57:42Well,

00:57:42there were several,

00:57:43several reasons.

00:57:45Several,

00:57:46several reasons.

00:57:48They came to us

00:57:50and offered,

00:57:51oop.

00:57:52Just look at the replay.

00:57:53I think we're just going to

00:57:54go to the pits quickly

00:57:55with an interview

00:57:56with Alexander Prima.

00:57:57Oh,

00:57:58there you go.

00:57:59Alex,

00:58:00you had a little problem

00:58:01at the beginning of the relay,

00:58:02what was going on exactly?

00:58:04Alex,

00:58:05problems with the car,

00:58:07the front end.

00:58:09He said,

00:58:12yeah,

00:58:12I'm fighting with the Aston Martin.

00:58:15I had big problems

00:58:16with vibrations

00:58:16coming from the front.

00:58:20I had problems

00:58:20with the steering as well.

00:58:26I tried to take

00:58:26the curve earlier.

00:58:28I wasn't fighting hard enough

00:58:29and the car was too powerful

00:58:32and so I just went straight on.

00:58:41And now we've got turbo-charger

00:58:44problems.

00:58:48The car wasn't pushing

00:58:49very hard.

00:58:51It wasn't fast enough.

00:58:58I've hurt my neck

00:58:59a little bit,

00:58:59but it's fine now.

00:59:06Yeah,

00:59:06it's the front vibration.

00:59:07That's why we're in.

00:59:09So,

00:59:09turbo-charger problems,

00:59:10vibration problems.

00:59:11We heard earlier

00:59:12after we went off

00:59:12to Indianapolis

00:59:13that from Roman Dumas

00:59:15that he had been reporting

00:59:17some power-steering problems

00:59:18and Liz,

00:59:19with all sorts of conjecture

00:59:20about that,

00:59:21Audi said

00:59:22there's nothing wrong

00:59:23with the car at all.

00:59:24Well,

00:59:24I think it basically

00:59:25is what we originally

00:59:26thought it was

00:59:26in saying that

00:59:27his power-steering

00:59:28had just gone that bit more

00:59:30so when he tried

00:59:31to take the curve,

00:59:32it's an extremely fast corner

00:59:33that right-hand turn

00:59:34and huge G-force

00:59:35in these cars

00:59:36and would be very hard

00:59:37to hold without power-steering.

00:59:38So,

00:59:38I think it is

00:59:39as we assume,

00:59:40at least from what he's saying,

00:59:41is that it just basically

00:59:42was that bit too much.

00:59:43The other thing is

00:59:44is that I noticed

00:59:45on the TV

00:59:47that they were looking

00:59:48underneath the front end

00:59:50of the car

00:59:51to make sure

00:59:51that there wasn't

00:59:52any body work.

00:59:53The front floor

00:59:53might have been fluttering

00:59:54a little.

00:59:55That could cause

00:59:55some real vibration problems.

00:59:57Well,

00:59:58please stay with us

00:59:58and we'll come back

00:59:59to your IMSA program

01:00:00in a minute.

01:00:02We're just going to

01:00:03take a short break

01:00:04and get back

01:00:04after these messages.

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01:00:11Welcome back.

01:00:12Long 24 hours

01:00:13just come up

01:00:15to the 5-hour mark

01:00:1720, 100,

01:00:188 o'clock in the evening

01:00:19here in West France.

01:00:20A beautiful evening,

01:00:21very high cloud,

01:00:22a very light breeze,

01:00:23been warm all day.

01:00:24This is absolutely

01:00:24perfect racing conditions

01:00:26and hopefully that cloud

01:00:27signals there

01:00:28should not be any rain tonight

01:00:30although the meteor

01:00:30from Peugeot

01:00:32and from Audi

01:00:32has been calling

01:00:33for rain

01:00:34at perhaps 1 o'clock

01:00:35or 2 o'clock

01:00:36tomorrow afternoon

01:00:37but that could be

01:00:38a movable feast.

01:00:39We've got Rob Dyson

01:00:40with us this holiday,

01:00:41myself, Mark Cole

01:00:41and Rob,

01:00:42just before the break

01:00:43we were starting

01:00:43to ask you

01:00:44about your ALMS program

01:00:46and why you changed

01:00:47from Porsche

01:00:48to Lola Mazda.

01:00:50Well,

01:00:50Lola Mazda

01:00:51was an opportunity

01:00:52that came to us.

01:00:54They contacted Chris

01:00:56early on

01:00:56in the season

01:00:57last season

01:00:58and said

01:00:59we've got

01:00:59a program here

01:01:01and we're just wondering

01:01:02if Dyson Racing

01:01:03would want to

01:01:03participate with us

01:01:05and one conversation

01:01:06led to another

01:01:07and it led to another

01:01:08and the association

01:01:09with Mazda

01:01:10going back

01:01:11working with Lola

01:01:12again has always

01:01:13been good.

01:01:13We had many,

01:01:15many good years

01:01:15working with Lola

01:01:16and with BP

01:01:18and the association

01:01:20of the three

01:01:21has been just

01:01:21absolutely terrific

01:01:22and it's been a

01:01:23and we've got

01:01:25the Michelin tires

01:01:26and working with

01:01:28the AER chaps

01:01:30and it's a great

01:01:32package

01:01:32and we're learning

01:01:33how to run it

01:01:34and the car is good

01:01:35they look great

01:01:36and the sponsors

01:01:37are happy

01:01:38and they're happy

01:01:39so we're happy

01:01:40and it's been

01:01:41a great experience.

01:01:42The Mazda folks

01:01:43it's top to bottom

01:01:45commitment

01:01:46from Japan

01:01:48all the way down

01:01:49to the individual

01:01:50dealers

01:01:50they're remarkably

01:01:51switched on

01:01:52car company

01:01:53and they are

01:01:54pure racers

01:01:56they just love it.

01:01:57Great to hear that

01:01:57because we had

01:01:58John Doonan

01:01:58on Thursday night

01:02:00singing your praises

01:02:01saying what a great

01:02:01team you were

01:02:02to work with

01:02:02so it's a

01:02:03mutual admiration

01:02:04win-win deal

01:02:05well we found

01:02:06that you know

01:02:08they wanted a team

01:02:10that took it seriously

01:02:11and could execute

01:02:13and we wanted

01:02:14some people

01:02:15that were committed

01:02:16and wanted to

01:02:17see us execute

01:02:17and that's the way

01:02:18it worked out.

01:02:19The word was

01:02:19that the Porsche

01:02:20Spyder was a very

01:02:21complex, very difficult

01:02:22car to set up

01:02:23was that your experience?

01:02:25Among others

01:02:25yes.

01:02:28We're very happy

01:02:30with our

01:02:31with the Dyson Racing

01:02:33Mazda Lola

01:02:33BP combination

01:02:35it's very very

01:02:36it's been a great

01:02:37great experience

01:02:38and of course

01:02:39Mazda is the only

01:02:40Japanese market

01:02:41who have ever won

01:02:42the Le Mans 24 hours

01:02:43so I think

01:02:43it's a really big thing

01:02:44for them to be here

01:02:45with such an influence

01:02:46this year

01:02:47it's the biggest influence

01:02:48Mazda's had for many

01:02:49many years I believe

01:02:50with so many Mazda Lolas

01:02:51involved

01:02:52so I think this is

01:02:53a road that they're

01:02:54hoping to go down

01:02:55again and hopefully

01:02:56work their way up

01:02:57to the top and have

01:02:58another win

01:02:58yeah

01:02:59let's just go back

01:03:01to the AAR engines

01:03:02the AAR built Mazda

01:03:05engines

01:03:05fuel problems

01:03:06at the first two

01:03:07Le Mans series races

01:03:08we've talked to AAR

01:03:09and they've said

01:03:10they believe they've

01:03:11managed to get over

01:03:11for Le Mans

01:03:12we've had no engine

01:03:13failures yet

01:03:14have we

01:03:14so hopefully

01:03:16that's going to be

01:03:16behind us

01:03:17well I can't reflect

01:03:19on the European races

01:03:20all I can tell you

01:03:21is that we had

01:03:22a couple of electrical

01:03:23problems at Sebring

01:03:24that hit both cars

01:03:25within about 15 minutes

01:03:27that we just couldn't

01:03:27correct

01:03:28but after that

01:03:29all of our racing

01:03:30has been rock solid

01:03:31with the AAR

01:03:32with no

01:03:33with the AAR Mazda

01:03:35engines

01:03:35with no fuel pressure

01:03:36problems

01:03:37or even any power

01:03:38problems

01:03:38our deal has just

01:03:39been making sure

01:03:40that we get the

01:03:40chassis and the

01:03:41engine combination

01:03:42working correctly

01:03:43yeah your fuel spec

01:03:43is different of course

01:03:44isn't it

01:03:45it's very different

01:03:46it's very different

01:03:47and our restrictor

01:03:47size a little bit

01:03:48different

01:03:48but either one of

01:03:49them shouldn't

01:03:50cause any problems

01:03:51but I will tell you

01:03:52that the fuel

01:03:54that they use

01:03:55here in Europe

01:03:55other than the

01:03:57diesel cars

01:03:58is not as good

01:03:59as what we have

01:04:00in the US

01:04:00and I don't know

01:04:02why they don't

01:04:03I mean it just

01:04:03seems to me

01:04:04that it's all science

01:04:05I mean you get

01:04:05the same fuel

01:04:06worldwide

01:04:07it just strikes me

01:04:08that they should

01:04:09do that

01:04:09if or nothing else

01:04:10but you have

01:04:11engine builders

01:04:12that work on

01:04:13both sides of it

01:04:14and I know

01:04:14with Dyson Racing

01:04:15when we run

01:04:16we should be running

01:04:17for instance

01:04:18if we were to

01:04:18come over here

01:04:19and run this race

01:04:20to have to adjust

01:04:21to a different octane rating

01:04:23or some kind of

01:04:23different chemistry

01:04:24in the fuel

01:04:25puts us at a disadvantage

01:04:27where the diesel cars

01:04:28are using the same fuel

01:04:29at every race

01:04:30wherever they go

01:04:31it just strikes me

01:04:32that it's a

01:04:33it's a

01:04:34it's a

01:04:35it's a

01:04:35disconnect

01:04:38that I think

01:04:39that they shouldn't have

01:04:40there becomes

01:04:41a huge compromise

01:04:42that a team has to do

01:04:44when they go

01:04:44even from Europe

01:04:46to America

01:04:46I know last year

01:04:47I raced with creation

01:04:48at Petit Limon

01:04:49Laguna Seca

01:04:50and there was a lot of changes

01:04:51they had to make

01:04:52to accommodate

01:04:52the completely different fuel

01:04:54that goes on in America

01:04:55and they were able to do that

01:04:56but it did take quite a while

01:04:57so I think that is something

01:04:59that I completely agree with you

01:05:01I think they need to have

01:05:02you know

01:05:03a continuance across both sectors

01:05:04it can't just be diesel

01:05:05it has to work for everybody

01:05:07so that it's more

01:05:08appealing to come across

01:05:10well I think it makes

01:05:11it's just a complication

01:05:12you don't need

01:05:13yeah we're just going back

01:05:13down to the pits

01:05:14to Justine

01:05:15Olivier Canel

01:05:17motorsport director of Peugeot

01:05:19justine asked him

01:05:26after five hours

01:05:27he's still got two cars

01:05:28out front

01:05:29yeah it's fine

01:05:33but the two hours

01:05:36came back on us

01:05:37after the safety car

01:05:38it's the third car that's had the problems

01:05:49and that's supposed to be the hair

01:05:51everything's fine at the moment

01:05:58so we're going to have two cars

01:06:00and the Peugeot Pescarola

01:06:02is having cars

01:06:03the problems of car number three

01:06:05so

01:06:05and the Peugeot Pescarola is coming back as well

01:06:09so anything's possible

01:06:10are you confident about reliability

01:06:16yeah we made separate simulations

01:06:21but that's Le Mans

01:06:26that's race

01:06:28that's car racing

01:06:29but we're ready

01:06:30well very uh

01:06:32very bold words

01:06:33ah dear oh dear

01:06:34just as we're saying that

01:06:35the IMSA performance

01:06:36Matmut car comes in

01:06:37is that the lead car

01:06:38was the lead car

01:06:39Raymond Rack

01:06:41doing such a good job this afternoon

01:06:43just checking quickly

01:06:44I don't

01:06:44but it can't be

01:06:45because he's just done

01:06:46one of his fastest sectors again

01:06:47it's the other car

01:06:49isn't it

01:06:49the other one

01:06:50just being pushed into the pits

01:06:51there

01:06:52well Rob Dyson

01:06:52thank you very much

01:06:53for joining us tonight

01:06:54there's anything else

01:06:54you want to raise it Rob

01:06:56no but I

01:06:57I'm honored to be here

01:06:59and thanks for the invite

01:07:00to come up

01:07:00and I will tell you

01:07:02that this is a

01:07:03this is an amazing event

01:07:05it's one of these things

01:07:06that if anybody is in sports cars

01:07:08or has any interest in sports cars

01:07:10you have to see this race

01:07:11you have to come and experience it

01:07:13and then in addition to that

01:07:14if you're a participant

01:07:15in sports car racing

01:07:16do whatever you can

01:07:18to actually do this race

01:07:20at least once

01:07:21well I was with you

01:07:22when you won at Daytona

01:07:23I remember you never went to bed

01:07:24you just stayed up the whole time

01:07:26that's exactly right

01:07:26you're doing that tonight

01:07:27I don't

01:07:28well I might

01:07:29I might

01:07:30depends how my boy's doing

01:07:31thank you everybody

01:07:32excellent

01:07:33thanks a lot Rob

01:07:33well

01:07:36and while Rob's talking

01:07:38we have mentioned Graham Goodwin

01:07:39from Daily Sports Car

01:07:40a couple of times

01:07:40Graham's going to come

01:07:41and give us his take on

01:07:42how the racer is going

01:07:43the great race

01:07:44and

01:07:44so Rob going back

01:07:49for the long long night

01:07:50shorter night than Daytona

01:07:51of course

01:07:52that's one of the good things

01:07:53it's about

01:07:53five hours here

01:07:55if the weather's fine

01:07:55and it's full

01:07:5612 hours in Daytona

01:07:57Graham good to have you

01:07:58with us

01:07:58and you are really

01:08:00the world's leading

01:08:02authority

01:08:02your website

01:08:03dailysportscar.com

01:08:05on sports car racing

01:08:06thank you for all the work

01:08:07you've done over the last

01:08:08few weeks

01:08:08you've made our job

01:08:09that much easier

01:08:09with your really

01:08:11really impressive

01:08:11previews

01:08:13you and Mark Housen

01:08:14doing a great great job

01:08:15but just first

01:08:16tell us

01:08:16how's Graham Cratton

01:08:17our friend Graham

01:08:18Malcolm will be listening

01:08:19Malcolm is just back

01:08:23from studying himself

01:08:24in New York

01:08:24he'll be listening in

01:08:25I'm sure

01:08:25and lots of good wishes

01:08:27from Alc

01:08:28he's not missed

01:08:30many of these

01:08:30in the last

01:08:31what's

01:08:31it probably seems

01:08:32in like 60 or 70 years

01:08:33but this is what he's missed

01:08:35he'll be listening in

01:08:36and watching in

01:08:37what a fabulous race

01:08:38we're having

01:08:38it's quite amazing

01:08:40you know

01:08:40you will get people

01:08:41that tell you

01:08:41that endurance racing

01:08:42is dull

01:08:42and you can't

01:08:43actually promote

01:08:44endurance racing

01:08:44well I think

01:08:45there's been a quarter

01:08:45of a million people

01:08:46out there in the sunshine

01:08:47that would disagree

01:08:47with them

01:08:48fabulous racing

01:08:49I can barely believe

01:08:50it's been what

01:08:50nearly

01:08:50is it what

01:08:51how many hours

01:08:53are we in there

01:08:53almost 6 I think

01:08:54good grief

01:08:55coming on that

01:08:55it's amazing

01:08:57it's 5 hours

01:08:58and 12 minutes

01:08:59but what we have noticed

01:09:00Graham

01:09:01Peugeot are 4 stinting

01:09:02and they're running

01:09:03just almost as fast

01:09:04on their 4th stint

01:09:06on the same set of tyres

01:09:07as on their 1st stint

01:09:08it's a pretty incredible

01:09:09display isn't it

01:09:10and what we've got to

01:09:11wait and see

01:09:11is whether or not

01:09:13they're going to

01:09:14solve the problems

01:09:15they've had in

01:09:16previous years here

01:09:17reliability is one of them

01:09:18and let's be blunt

01:09:19it's not been great

01:09:20in the pits either

01:09:21it's better

01:09:22on both those counts

01:09:23with the disarromable

01:09:25exception of what

01:09:25this was talking about

01:09:26earlier

01:09:26the incident between

01:09:27the 7 and the 17 car

01:09:28watching at the moment

01:09:30a bit of an incident

01:09:30there with the 25 car

01:09:33yeah Rob

01:09:34Chris Dyson

01:09:34on board that car

01:09:35Chris getting a bit

01:09:36nerfed by the

01:09:37the Hancock

01:09:38tired Ferrari there

01:09:41I thought you got a bit

01:09:41sandwiched in there

01:09:42by two GT cars

01:09:43Rob just put his head

01:09:45in his hands

01:09:46at that point

01:09:47they've all gone away

01:09:48with that

01:09:49but it's been a fantastic race

01:09:51what we're waiting

01:09:51to find out as well

01:09:52is will some of those

01:09:53kind of

01:09:54well let's call them

01:09:55new car problems

01:09:55if it was a new car

01:09:56for two years

01:09:57if it was a new car

01:09:57problem

01:09:58whether or not Audi

01:09:58are now going to

01:09:59inherit some of those

01:10:00without the benefit

01:10:01of having the longer

01:10:03race programme

01:10:04before Le Mans

01:10:05that Audi have

01:10:06traditionally had

01:10:06this is a brand new car

01:10:08it's a completely

01:10:08different car

01:10:09more or less

01:10:10everything else

01:10:10on the grid

01:10:11in P1 and P2

01:10:12is an evolution

01:10:12of something we've

01:10:13seen before

01:10:13this isn't

01:10:14the R15 is a

01:10:15revolutionary car

01:10:16and they've got

01:10:17problems

01:10:18it's certainly got

01:10:19problems

01:10:19mostly seeming to be

01:10:21about the front end

01:10:21of the car

01:10:22but it's like a Hoover

01:10:23it seems to be

01:10:24sucking everything in

01:10:25I think that's part of it

01:10:26and you know

01:10:27I think we were hearing

01:10:28earlier in your commentary

01:10:29that there's rumours

01:10:30of issues with turbos

01:10:31it's not the first time

01:10:32I've heard that

01:10:33this weekend

01:10:33Audi clearly

01:10:34are not going to be

01:10:35terrifically

01:10:35kind of open about

01:10:37telling exactly

01:10:37what's wrong with the cars

01:10:38but the three cars

01:10:39had a bit of a

01:10:39touring time

01:10:40what we are getting

01:10:42at the moment

01:10:42is a wonderful

01:10:44four car battle

01:10:45with those two

01:10:46Aston Martins

01:10:46hanging on in there

01:10:47just in case we get

01:10:48other problems ahead

01:10:50which we undoubtedly

01:10:51will

01:10:51because that's Le Mans

01:10:52six factory cars

01:10:55have been out front

01:10:56well it's seven now

01:10:57because the Pagano Peugeot

01:11:00we call it a factory car

01:11:01can we?

01:11:01the Pascorello Peugeot

01:11:02I think we probably

01:11:02know it

01:11:03factory blessed

01:11:04factory blessed

01:11:05yeah

01:11:05funnily enough

01:11:06I was saying earlier

01:11:07I went up to Henri

01:11:08before the race

01:11:08and said Henri

01:11:09I hope you can beat

01:11:10the Peugeot

01:11:11as he said

01:11:11we are Peugeot

01:11:12how's that for the

01:11:14company man?

01:11:15I think Henri

01:11:15would be amazed

01:11:17if he realised

01:11:18actually how much

01:11:20support there was

01:11:20on the spectator banks

01:11:22on your forums

01:11:23people listening at home

01:11:24Henri Pascorello

01:11:26is part of the history

01:11:26of this race

01:11:27and always will be

01:11:28but he's part of

01:11:28the living history

01:11:29of this race

01:11:29and I think millions

01:11:31of people in France

01:11:32and beyond

01:11:32would actually love

01:11:33to see Henri

01:11:34win this race

01:11:35that would be a

01:11:35fairytale result

01:11:36I think

01:11:37bearing in mind

01:11:38all the torrid nature

01:11:40of the politics

01:11:40around diesel

01:11:41against petrol

01:11:42over the last

01:11:43three, four years

01:11:44for a Pascorello

01:11:46run Peugeot

01:11:47and a diesel at that

01:11:48to actually win this race

01:11:50would be

01:11:50well that would be

01:11:51a laugh wouldn't it

01:11:52let's face it

01:11:52oh yeah

01:11:53I'd love to see him

01:11:54win I think

01:11:54that'd be fantastic

01:11:55would Peugeot be

01:11:56too worried

01:11:56which one's

01:11:57one would it

01:11:58bother them

01:11:59look at it

01:12:00from Peugeot's

01:12:00point of view

01:12:01it's not by accident

01:12:02they've placed a car

01:12:03with a team

01:12:03that they know

01:12:03is capable of

01:12:04actually getting a car

01:12:06to the finish

01:12:06and onto the podium

01:12:07here

01:12:07they need strength

01:12:09in depth

01:12:09if things do go wrong

01:12:10having four

01:12:11competitive Peugeots

01:12:12is better than

01:12:13having three

01:12:13and at the end

01:12:14of the day

01:12:15their advertising

01:12:16their marketing

01:12:17can still say

01:12:17Peugeot win Le Mans

01:12:18yeah

01:12:19that's the number

01:12:19seven Peugeot

01:12:20we're watching

01:12:20Pedro Lamy on board

01:12:22the one that's

01:12:22coming back

01:12:23almost coming back

01:12:23from the grave

01:12:24isn't it

01:12:24absolutely wrecked

01:12:26in that first

01:12:27hour of the race

01:12:27you see the way

01:12:28he went past

01:12:29the Aston Martin

01:12:29oh that's what

01:12:30I was just noticing

01:12:31like it was an LMP2

01:12:33yeah extraordinary

01:12:34and that's with

01:12:35Jan Cherus in it

01:12:35that's not a slow car

01:12:37he's a quick driver

01:12:38now he's thinking

01:12:38to gobble up the Audi

01:12:39instead of him

01:12:39the Aston has just passed

01:12:40well I think

01:12:42he'll be a man

01:12:43on a mission

01:12:43now he'll be told

01:12:44to absolutely push

01:12:45no matter what

01:12:46from Peugeot

01:12:46and that's what

01:12:47they'll be doing

01:12:47and that accident

01:12:48there's no fault

01:12:49of Pedro's

01:12:50but we did talk

01:12:51earlier about

01:12:51to Hugh Chamberlain

01:12:52particularly saying

01:12:53why having had that

01:12:54did they let the car

01:12:55go back out

01:12:56why not stop it

01:12:56there and then

01:12:57and then wheel it back

01:12:58well I think

01:12:59I was listening

01:13:00to what Liz

01:13:00was saying earlier

01:13:01and Liz is absolutely

01:13:02right as a driver

01:13:03in that kind of situation

01:13:03you're completely reliant

01:13:05on the information

01:13:05you're getting

01:13:06from your pit crew

01:13:06and I know

01:13:07what the pit crew

01:13:07and to a lesser extent

01:13:09the drivers have been saying

01:13:09and Henri said it too

01:13:10is that it was actually

01:13:11to do with the photographers

01:13:12in the line of sight

01:13:14well that's fine

01:13:15but come on

01:13:16this is Le Mans

01:13:16this is a factory

01:13:18blessed team

01:13:18do you want the publicity

01:13:19or don't you

01:13:20and if you want the publicity

01:13:21either manage that better

01:13:23in the pit lane

01:13:24or whatever

01:13:25but it's an inexcusable accident

01:13:27that could have been

01:13:27so so much worse

01:13:28and I know there are

01:13:29people in the way

01:13:30but I'm sorry

01:13:30it's a massive race car

01:13:32with a roof on it

01:13:32and everything

01:13:33you're not going to miss it

01:13:34are you

01:13:34plus they're together

01:13:36they're joined in

01:13:37in a team

01:13:37they were meant to be

01:13:38a lap apart

01:13:39I know that

01:13:40but surely they would have

01:13:41some knowledge together

01:13:42of who was coming in

01:13:43when

01:13:44I just

01:13:44or they should have

01:13:46if they didn't

01:13:46it was I think

01:13:48pretty poor pit management

01:13:49and let's hope

01:13:50they've learned that lesson

01:13:51it's a very hard lesson

01:13:52to learn

01:13:52it's put one of the cars

01:13:53out of contention

01:13:54for the moment at least

01:13:55but fighting back

01:13:57and fighting back hard

01:13:58331 that last time around

01:14:00from Pedro Larmi

01:14:00which is well up

01:14:02with the leading pace

01:14:03but

01:14:03it didn't seem to be

01:14:05just symptomatic

01:14:06of the woes

01:14:07that Peugeot have had

01:14:07here in the last couple of years

01:14:08and not just here

01:14:09it does seem that

01:14:10they're actually able

01:14:11to throw it away

01:14:12all too easily

01:14:12and you know

01:14:13genuinely

01:14:14I thought they were

01:14:15past that this year

01:14:15with a bit of a revamp

01:14:16a new look

01:14:17actually to the team

01:14:19and a bit of a new

01:14:19kind of spirit behind it too

01:14:21a team that's mature

01:14:21with a car that's now

01:14:23well developed

01:14:23and absolutely capable

01:14:25of winning this race on pace

01:14:26now Yannick Dalmas

01:14:27who's working for our

01:14:29French colleagues

01:14:30here at Port France

01:14:30he came in earlier

01:14:31and we were talking

01:14:33about his win in 92

01:14:34when he won with

01:14:35Warwick and Blundell

01:14:37and he said

01:14:38like Tom Walkenshaw said

01:14:40it takes three years

01:14:42with a new programme

01:14:43to win Le Mans

01:14:43and here we are

01:14:44there you go

01:14:45and I think that's

01:14:46a very wise

01:14:47kind of thing from Yannick

01:14:49and no one knows

01:14:49better than he does

01:14:50how to win Le Mans

01:14:51but we've got

01:14:52a fascinating race

01:14:53you know

01:14:54I think I could

01:14:55confidently predict

01:14:56if I came back here

01:14:57in another 18 hours

01:14:59we could have

01:14:59a quick quite similar

01:15:00conversation

01:15:01with just different

01:15:02incidents to be talking about

01:15:03it's like a game

01:15:04of automotive chess

01:15:05it's fantastic

01:15:06you know

01:15:07the big difference here

01:15:08I think between

01:15:09any other form of motorsport

01:15:11is that

01:15:12you really do not know

01:15:13what's going to be

01:15:14around the next corner

01:15:14traffic here

01:15:15is a massive factor

01:15:16and Le Mans knows

01:15:17I think better than anybody

01:15:18well they

01:15:20traffic

01:15:21oh god yeah

01:15:22I mean here

01:15:22here more than anywhere else

01:15:24the closing speeds

01:15:25are just insane

01:15:26and he's got to be prepared

01:15:27for anything to change

01:15:28just a quick insert here

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01:15:54so the race continues

01:15:55and

01:15:55to the joy

01:15:57of all the local French

01:15:58Sebastian Bordet

01:15:59the man from Le Mans

01:16:00is our race leader

01:16:01for Peugeot

01:16:02at the moment

01:16:02in the number 8 car

01:16:03he's just done 86 laps

01:16:05he's got Alex Vertz

01:16:06behind him

01:16:06one lap down

01:16:08now we believe

01:16:08and then Capello

01:16:09and Lure

01:16:10for Audi

01:16:12Pagino

01:16:13for the Pescarolo Peugeot

01:16:14and the two

01:16:16Lola Aston Martins

01:16:17there

01:16:17in 6th and 7th place

01:16:19Graham

01:16:19I think that's a change

01:16:20actually

01:16:20Pagino has actually

01:16:21leapfrogged

01:16:22the two Aston Martins

01:16:23at the last

01:16:24pit stop cycle

01:16:25so now what we've actually

01:16:26got are three Peugeots

01:16:26in the top 5

01:16:27and that's not been

01:16:28the case for quite some time

01:16:29we've had

01:16:31Peugeot Peugeot

01:16:31Audi Audi

01:16:32Lola Aston Martin

01:16:33with the

01:16:35Pescarolo Peugeot

01:16:37tagging along behind

01:16:38but that's not the case

01:16:39anymore

01:16:40as we see a car

01:16:40I think in trouble

01:16:41Mark

01:16:41right

01:16:42Seth Neiman

01:16:43isn't it

01:16:44it's the Flying Lizards

01:16:45car

01:16:45oh dear oh dear

01:16:47this is the one

01:16:48that Darren Law

01:16:49was hoping to

01:16:50get that

01:16:52back to back

01:16:54victories

01:16:54at the Rolex

01:16:5524 at Daytona

01:16:56this year

01:16:57for Brumos Porsche

01:16:58and here

01:16:58for the Lizards

01:16:59at Le Mans

01:17:00this isn't fatal

01:17:02it may just be a puncture

01:17:03it's a rear left puncture

01:17:03by the lack of that

01:17:04I think

01:17:05in the scheme of things

01:17:07this may not be too serious

01:17:08it loses a little bit of time

01:17:10and they're fourth in class

01:17:10I think

01:17:11yeah

01:17:11he's got a long way to go though

01:17:12and he's just going to hope

01:17:13that you know

01:17:14that they actually can keep

01:17:15that tyre together

01:17:16if indeed it is a puncture

01:17:17this is a long way to go

01:17:19and as we saw

01:17:19with the Peugeot earlier Liz

01:17:20and once one of these tyres

01:17:22lets go

01:17:22and starts thrashing around

01:17:24it's like a threshing machine

01:17:25and it's going to take anything

01:17:26that's in its way

01:17:27it is

01:17:27and the worst part about Le Mans

01:17:28is it's such a long lap

01:17:29so you've really got to be patient

01:17:31if you get a puncture

01:17:32to just keep the speed down

01:17:33not go too fast

01:17:34yeah

01:17:35we're just going down

01:17:36to the pits again

01:17:36and see who Justine

01:17:38has got for us

01:17:39Patrick how has it goes

01:17:43it's going so far so well

01:17:45the first stint was

01:17:46the best I felt in the car

01:17:48I'm feeling I'm a lot more comfortable now

01:17:51under braking

01:17:53the down shifts are improving tremendously

01:17:55also the situational awareness

01:17:57is improving too

01:17:58I think everybody's driving

01:17:59really heads up out there

01:18:01which is nice

01:18:02track conditions are changing now

01:18:04but I'm glad that first session

01:18:06is out of the way

01:18:07how is it going to go for tonight?

01:18:10are you going to drive during the night?

01:18:12yeah

01:18:12I'm about to do a double right now

01:18:14I'll get in in probably about 20 minutes

01:18:16see how that goes

01:18:17just try to get a nice consistent pace

01:18:20and stay with that

01:18:21and see where we end up after that stint

01:18:22so we can see it's a lot of money now

01:18:24yeah

01:18:25we're getting up to almost $50,000

01:18:26which has been fantastic

01:18:28that's going to take care of a lot of children

01:18:29so we'll just keep plugging away

01:18:31and hopefully we'll be here tomorrow

01:18:32when we take the check

01:18:33thank you

01:18:35thank you

01:18:36so thank you

01:18:38Patrick Dempsey

01:18:40then the man who

01:18:40still I think

01:18:42absolutely overwhelmed

01:18:43by how popular he is in France

01:18:45and Germany too

01:18:46anyway

01:18:47Graham

01:18:48we're just going to say goodbye to you

01:18:49thank you very much

01:18:50I hope everybody's enjoying the coverage

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01:19:20and he's got some interesting news for us

01:19:21so Liz

01:19:23going into evening

01:19:25interestingly

01:19:26again

01:19:27we're just starting to see

01:19:28some faster times coming up

01:19:29you've talked about the track getting rubbered

01:19:31well I think

01:19:32what we're seeing now

01:19:33is it's starting to cool off as well

01:19:35it's cooling off

01:19:36the track's rubbered up

01:19:37I think now we're reaching

01:19:38sort of a prime time

01:19:39for the faster times

01:19:41and as we go into the night

01:19:42we should be seeing that

01:19:43also what we're seeing is

01:19:44the sun's starting to come down

01:19:45the bugs are coming out

01:19:46we're looking at the in-car scenes

01:19:48and it's definitely becoming more tricky

01:19:50for the drivers to drive now

01:19:52in these conditions

01:19:52they can't see

01:19:53the lights coming in

01:19:54it's becoming a hard time in the evening

01:19:56right we're turning over to Eurosport 2 now

01:19:58so come over with us

01:19:59if you haven't got Eurosport 2

01:20:00on your cable

01:20:01or your dish

01:20:03then go to Eurosport iPlayer

01:20:05and you can continue to watch the race live there

01:20:07oh yeah

01:20:08we're going to take a short break

01:20:11we'll be back in a minute

01:20:12Martin Brain of Lola Cars

01:20:14will be with us

01:20:14and we're going to hear

01:20:15straight from the horse's mouth

01:20:17with us

01:20:19we're going to use

01:20:21and we'll be back in

01:20:21there

01:20:21we'll be back in

01:20:22this section

01:20:22Moon

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