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00:00Hello everyone, I'm Kayleigh McEnany along with Kennedy, Harold Ford Jr., Brian Kilmeade
00:07and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o'clock in New York City and this is The Five.
00:18The suspected killer of Charlie Kirk facing the death penalty after getting formally charged
00:22with aggravated murder and a slew of other counts. There were seven in total. Prosecutors
00:27in Utah describing some of the disturbing text messages the alleged assassin sent to his roommate
00:33slash lover. And now how did the liberal media cover it? Well, instead of being horrified, ABC's Matt
00:39Gutman and Montel Williams spun it like a twisted love story. It was very touching in a way that I
00:46think many of us didn't expect. This duality of someone who the attorney said not only jeopardized
00:51the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of children, which is one of
00:55the aggravating circumstances of this case. And on the other hand, he was, you know, speaking so
01:00lovingly about his partner. Text messages that are A, so fulsome, so robust, so apparently,
01:04allegedly self-incriminating, and yet on the other hand, so touching, right?
01:08We're talking about a love-torn child, a kid. This is probably his first real relationship
01:14and somebody was disparaging the person that he loved. I don't believe he was motivated politically.
01:19I think this was motivated emotionally. ABC's Gutman later apologizing and posting, quote,
01:25I deeply regret that my words did not make that clear, but let there be zero doubt here,
01:30I unequivocally condemn this horrific crime. And as prosecutors lay out the mountain of evidence
01:36that shows that the suspect was overtaken by left-wing ideology, they were explicit about that.
01:41CNN is still confused about the motive.
01:43We don't have a motive yet. We don't know yet. We're waiting. Obviously, we've heard what the
01:47governor's had to say, what the FBI director said today.
01:49Of course we know. Come on, we don't have a motive yet.
01:51We know. We don't have a motive yet. Really?
01:52We don't have a motive yet. Really?
01:52What's happening with...
01:53Really? That's CNN's position.
01:55I mean, from law enforcement, Senator.
01:55He just happened to fire the gun in celebration.
01:57I'm not arguing with you politically. I'm saying that law enforcement has not put a specific motive.
02:02You know that there's a difference of what they're putting in a legal argument than what you're talking about.
02:06And you're not even...
02:07What you just said is false.
02:08All right. Well, I'd like to pull up the motive.
02:13Caitlin must have missed the press conference that day.
02:16Greg, here are the texts from the roommate.
02:18Roommate, why? Tyler, why did I do it?
02:21Roommate, yeah. Tyler, I had enough of his hatred.
02:24Some hatred cannot be negotiated out.
02:27He hated Charlie Kirk and what he stood for.
02:29That seems to be the motive.
02:30You know, I don't see it at all, Kaylee.
02:32I just see love-struck, non-binary, Romeo and Juliet.
02:36I'm waiting for the American crime story to be released.
02:40And, of course, they're going to make them the heroes.
02:43And they're going to make Charlie based on complete fabrications the bad guy
02:47because that's what Hollywood does.
02:50The anti-hero always trumps the hero.
02:53And they will never realize that Charlie was above both.
02:56Imagine doing this to other horrible people.
02:57You know, yeah, Hitler killed 6 million Jews,
03:00but did you ever see his watercolors?
03:02Or, you know, John Wayne Gacy, he killed some kids,
03:04but he's great around pets.
03:06You know, just because, you know, really bad people
03:08can have a moment of tenderness,
03:11but it doesn't deserve your observation
03:14when you're reporting a story.
03:16You're not hosting The Bachelorette.
03:18And it sucks because his name's Gutman,
03:20so close to Gutfeld.
03:22But do you see, I think what bugs me about this
03:25is that we've seen this before.
03:27If you're old enough to remember,
03:29from Angela Davis to Luigi Mangione,
03:33the blood doesn't even have to dry
03:34before they rewrite the narrative.
03:37And it will always be based on the story that they prefer.
03:41And this is how it starts.
03:43It starts with the text.
03:46I go back to Charlottesville.
03:47When Trump said there were fine people on both sides,
03:50he was talking about the statute debate.
03:53The media knew that, but they changed it.
03:55So it was, no, he's talking about Nazis.
03:58That was the tentpole hoax
04:00that allowed all the other hoaxes to come in.
04:03And it was the one that Joe Biden references,
04:06I ran for president because of Charlottesville,
04:08because he said fine people.
04:10So that story was warped by people
04:14who had to believe that Trump was a racist bigot.
04:18So they created this story.
04:20And now they're going to do this with Charlie.
04:22And it's all of, it's our responsibility to stop it.
04:26And that means just being relentless about it.
04:28The same way that the fine people hoax
04:30was dismantled by Cortez.
04:35What's, I can't think of this for,
04:35Steve Cortez, Scott Adams, Joel Pollack.
04:38Everybody's got to do this with this one
04:40in the name of Charlie.
04:41You can't let him get away with it.
04:43Absolutely.
04:44You know, Brian, it's very strange to me
04:46that two separate people could arrive
04:48at the same conclusion.
04:49Hearing an assassin lay out exactly how they did this
04:53to their lover, and you have Gutman walking away
04:55with this Romeo and Juliet love story.
04:58And then you have Montel Williams,
04:59a love-torn child, a kid who tried to defend
05:03his significant other.
05:03How do two people arrive at that conclusion?
05:05I mean, you stole a lot of my thunder
05:09when you said, if you need a vote, if you need any help,
05:10all he said is, I had enough of this hatred.
05:13Some hate can't be negotiated.
05:14He took him out because of that.
05:16So I think, how would Montel Williams,
05:18who we both know, I think is a good guy.
05:19He's going through a lot of physical problems,
05:20but a great talk show host for 30 years.
05:23How could he sit there and try to rationalize,
05:25well, this is a love story gone wrong,
05:27misconstrued?
05:28How could Matt Gutman, who's been doing this
05:30for 20-plus years, and I think he does a really good job,
05:32obviously a network anchor, Caitlin Collins, who I know.
05:36Oh, you know everybody.
05:37I do, but guys, I don't want to make it personal.
05:39I think the one thing is missing is when people talk about
05:42why is Israel acting like this in Gaza?
05:44When people are saying, why are the people on the five?
05:47Why is Fox News getting so upset about Shirley Kirk?
05:49We know him, and you haven't seen the video.
05:52You didn't watch the 10-7 video of what happened
05:55to the Israelis that led to the Gaza incursion and the war.
06:01And I hate to say it, but you didn't know, Charlie Kirk,
06:04that's bad on you, maybe not your fault,
06:07but you didn't see how he died.
06:08If you saw how he died, you wouldn't be saying,
06:11it just seems like a guy that didn't know his gender
06:13and was separated from his family.
06:15Let's try to make sense of this.
06:17And to your point, there are people, very smart people,
06:21that will say to you, well, we know the laptop wasn't real.
06:23You know, we know the laptop was fake.
06:25What are you talking about?
06:26They don't watch us.
06:28They don't make any effort to go past the network news
06:31or CNN, MSNBC.
06:32There are people that really think that Vladimir Putin
06:34put Donald Trump in the office the first time.
06:37They didn't see the unwinding of the Mueller report.
06:39So these are not uneducated people.
06:41They have just no idea.
06:42And when Jimmy Kimmel came out last night
06:44or the night before, what did he say
06:46in that 12-second soundbite?
06:47Jimmy Kimmel came out and said,
06:49these MAGA guys wanted to pretend
06:51that this guy wasn't one of them.
06:54So you might go, of course he's not.
06:55Of course he's not MAGA.
06:56He hates Donald Trump.
06:57He hates Joe and Kirk.
06:58All you have to do is see that.
06:59So you think, what's the big deal?
07:00He doesn't get much ratings.
07:02And he's just going to hate Trump.
07:05But there's people that only get their news
07:07from him, ABC, the rest.
07:10And they don't know that he is not MAGA,
07:14that this is an assassination of Kirk,
07:15that he did hate him.
07:16It was intended for him.
07:18He horrifically took someone out
07:20in the prime of his life.
07:21And the only way you could sit there
07:23and try to rationalize this as a relationship
07:25or did he see Starcross,
07:26did he have a hard time dealing with his gayness,
07:29was if you didn't see the reality
07:31of how Charlie died.
07:33Yeah, Kimmel's saying the MAGA gang
07:35desperately trying to characterize the kid
07:37who murdered Charlie Kirk
07:38as anything other than one of them.
07:40One of the most asinine things I ever heard.
07:42Conspiracy land, literally.
07:44Harold, there's three data points
07:46that to me, we talk about a common set of facts.
07:48Left loves us.
07:49What are the common set of facts?
07:50Fact one, we showed you the text messages.
07:53Fact two, the mother said
07:54he was turning towards left-wing ideology.
07:57He became enveloped in this trans ideology.
08:00Fact three, the county attorney, Jeff Gray,
08:02not a political partisan actor,
08:04said he was motivated by left-wing ideology.
08:06It's an inescapable conclusion,
08:08so why can't the left acknowledge the set of facts?
08:11Well, good to be back with everybody.
08:12I think that these excesses on both sides
08:15don't really, I don't get too caught up in them.
08:18I think that people can arrive at different decisions
08:22about a set of events,
08:24and it's not for me to judge them or not judge them.
08:27I reach my own conclusions.
08:28I think what happened to Charlie Kirk
08:31was a total assault on our country.
08:35I didn't agree with Charlie on most things he said publicly.
08:38I didn't know him well enough to know some of his private feelings,
08:41but the public things I didn't agree with.
08:43But what I admired most about him was he believed in dissent
08:46and believed in open debate and believed in honest debate,
08:50and he certainly didn't deserve what happened.
08:54Two, I listened to President Trump
08:56when he talked about this young man,
08:59the suspected assassin's family.
09:02He said that it seemed like it was a good family.
09:05Maybe the president was saying it
09:06because they were supporters of him,
09:07and he said it seemed like a good family.
09:08It seems like somewhere along the line,
09:10along the line, he got radicalized.
09:11Something happened to this kid.
09:14And I think about how we kind of solve these things.
09:17He may have been radicalized by left ideology,
09:21and probably was.
09:22He was, yeah.
09:22But Katie, I'm sorry.
09:24Kaylee, you may be right.
09:25But I heard what Montel said,
09:28and I had never considered what he said.
09:31He's likely wrong,
09:32but I'd never considered that maybe...
09:34Just hit me one second, Brian.
09:36We're all human,
09:36and that's the opinion he reached.
09:38I don't necessarily agree with him.
09:40But here's what I do know.
09:41You look over the last several years,
09:42and you see the number of killings like this.
09:45They generally have a couple things in common,
09:48at least the experts say.
09:49There's either...
09:50Or one of all things.
09:51There's either some trauma,
09:52childhood trauma involved with these people.
09:53One, they have some sort of personal grievance
09:56about something.
09:58Three, there's some script or manifesto
10:00they've concocted in their head
10:02that justifies what they've done.
10:04And four, they have access to a gun.
10:06And fifth, we're seeing increasingly
10:07they're young white guys
10:09who are being radicalized
10:11or have some sort of massive exposure
10:13to something online.
10:15That's what I want to figure out how we get at.
10:17And in this case, there's no doubt, Kaylee,
10:19hold on one second.
10:19There's no doubt the leftist ideology played a role.
10:21I'm not denying.
10:22But there are a lot of people
10:25who are exposed to leftist ideology
10:26who don't kill people.
10:27There are a lot of people
10:28who are exposed to neo-Nazis
10:29who don't kill people.
10:30Sure.
10:30You look at the guy
10:32who went up to Buffalo in 2022,
10:3418 years old, drove 200 miles
10:36and killed nine people in a grocery store
10:38in a black neighborhood.
10:40And he said he was a neo-Nazi.
10:42I think people who have different...
10:43That's apples and oranges.
10:45And I know, but let me...
10:47It's radicalization is what I'm saying.
10:48Yes, okay.
10:49But I guess what I'm saying is,
10:51when you...
10:51I understand what you're saying
10:53about the radicalization,
10:54but the mechanism of the radicalization
10:57is way different
10:58when you have a constant drumbeat,
11:01where you have eight to ten years
11:05of people in the media...
11:07These are not like...
11:08Wait, wait, wait.
11:08These are not rock stars.
11:10These are not artists saying Nazi, Nazi.
11:13These are news anchors.
11:14These are politicians.
11:15These are college professors
11:17that are actually legitimizing this
11:19and saying it over and over again.
11:21This is why this is different.
11:22But President Trump said what I said.
11:25He said that something happened to...
11:27It says that there was a radicalization.
11:28My only point is, I want to get after that.
11:30If you're right, and you probably are right...
11:32Harold, it's not a probably...
11:33If it's leftist ideology,
11:34how do we stop it from radicalizing?
11:36I want to get Kennedy in here,
11:37but...
11:37I'm going to say...
11:38This is very, very cut and dry.
11:40You cannot get more cut and dry
11:42than why did you kill Charlie Kirk?
11:45We could even pull up the text message.
11:46I had enough of his hatred.
11:48What did Charlie stand for?
11:50Charlie wasn't a left-winger.
11:51Charlie was a mainstream conservative.
11:54Charlie was a Christian.
11:55Charlie was a constitutionalist.
11:57And the man hated that,
11:59and he wrote it in a text, Kennedy.
12:01Yeah, I mean, not too different
12:02from Luigi Mangione's manifesto
12:05that you talked about,
12:06which, I'm sorry,
12:07if you are trying to instill fear in people
12:10using your politics or based on their politics,
12:13that's terrorism.
12:15And I'm shocked that they dropped
12:16those two charges from Mangione.
12:18The court did.
12:19The prosecutor tried to do it.
12:21Right, the court did.
12:21The judge allowed that.
12:23And, you know, Paul Moore is like,
12:25Alvin Bragg should probably appeal that.
12:27You talk about trauma.
12:28A lot of people have had trauma.
12:30A lot of people, most people have had childhood trauma.
12:33They don't go out and murder someone
12:35that they find to be abhorrent.
12:38I'm sure there's a lot of people
12:39that Oprah disagrees with.
12:40She had a very tough childhood.
12:41She's not going to murder someone.
12:43But my problem is, you know,
12:45the defense that, oh, he's this love-struck teen
12:48who's so angry on behalf of his lover.
12:51A lot of people are angry.
12:53So, you know, Randy Weingarten said,
12:55well, leftists, they go to the college.
12:57They sign petitions to keep Charlie Kirk off the campus.
13:00MAGA people, Trump supporters,
13:02they're the ones who murder people.
13:04No, it was this person,
13:05and now they're trying to take this chasm
13:08between confronting someone rhetorically with ideas.
13:11Kim, you have to look at me.
13:12I'm agreeing with you.
13:13I'm only making the point that radicalization is a problem.
13:15They are normalizing the way they've normalized
13:16the terms fascist and Hitler and authoritarian and Nazi.
13:22They're doing the same thing with murder,
13:23and they're trying to equate someone's anger,
13:26which can be voiced in words,
13:28with someone picking up a bolt-action rifle
13:31and aiming it at a father's head
13:33and killing him in front of people in cold blood.
13:36It is not the same thing.
13:38And it is, that is an objective fact.
13:41You said that this,
13:42you're not going to judge people
13:44because everyone has their own subjective interpretation.
13:47I disagree vehemently.
13:48This is objectively wrong.
13:50I don't care what side you're on.
13:52I don't care what you disagree with.
13:53I don't care what your politics are.
13:55It is never, ever okay.
13:57And there's never been a better time
13:58for people like Randy Weingarten
14:00and Montel Williams,
14:01who was my favorite Montel since the 90s.
14:04But you know what? Montel Jordan.
14:05Not Montel Jordan.
14:06I am not suggesting in any way
14:13that I agree with him,
14:13but I give people the space.
14:16I want to understand what they're saying
14:17because clearly if everyone were like you
14:20and me and you,
14:21people wouldn't be being killed
14:22while they're giving a speech.
14:24If everyone were like the five of us,
14:25people could have their views,
14:27people could state their positions
14:28and we wouldn't have violence gripping us.
14:30We have a problem in our society.
14:32And if we think we can brush it away,
14:35flush it away by saying,
14:36oh, it's just because these leftists did this
14:38and this leftist did that.
14:39There's no brushing.
14:40There's no brushing.
14:41I'm only saying,
14:42President Trump said this kid was radicalized.
14:45If we don't face this thing with social media
14:47and look at it in totality,
14:49we're unfortunately going to be talking
14:50about this a lot more.
14:51We got to run,
14:52but this only changes
14:53when people on the left,
14:54like Senator Fetterman,
14:55stands up and says,
14:56stop comparing Trump to Hitler.
14:57That is the only way this ends.
14:59All right, up next,
15:00the left is cheering on assassins
15:02and yet President Barack Obama
15:03thinks President Trump's rhetoric
15:05is the problem.
15:14Welcome back.
15:15Former President Obama
15:16weighing in on the assassination
15:18of Charlie Kirk,
15:19calling the murder horrific
15:20and a tragedy
15:22and accusing President Trump
15:23and his administration
15:25of fueling political division.
15:27Watch.
15:28When I hear
15:29not just our current president
15:35but his aides
15:36who have a history
15:40of calling political opponents
15:45vermin,
15:48enemies,
15:49who need to be
15:52targeted,
15:55that
15:59speaks to a broader problem.
16:03Broader problem.
16:05Let me be clear.
16:06Barack Obama
16:07conveniently failing
16:08to call out the left's
16:09assassination culture
16:10and the Democrats' obsession
16:11with calling Republicans
16:13Hitler.
16:14Do you think we throw around
16:16Nazi too often?
16:19Probably,
16:20but also I think
16:21it's really important
16:22people know their history.
16:23Do you think that that's
16:24contributed to this
16:25or are those critics wrong?
16:28They're absolutely wrong.
16:29There should not be
16:30anyone that faces consequences
16:32because they actually
16:34know history.
16:35We cannot allow
16:36this heinous murder
16:37to be exploited
16:38as an excuse
16:39for the advance
16:40of authoritarian rule.
16:41All right.
16:44So, Brian,
16:45I want to go to you
16:46about President Obama.
16:48He is calling out
16:50President Trump
16:51for saying that
16:52some in his administration
16:53have used terms
16:54like vermin
16:55and enemies,
16:57but I think
16:58I remember people
16:58in the Obama
17:00and Biden administrations
17:01using very pointed,
17:04cruel language
17:04directed right
17:05at President Trump.
17:07Deplorable
17:07when you talk about targeted.
17:09Irredeemable.
17:10Nazi.
17:10Irredeemable Nazi.
17:11And Barack Obama,
17:12I always look at him
17:13as when he became
17:14an ex-president
17:15or I'm used to ex-presidents
17:16acting above it all.
17:18You know,
17:18we're used to seeing
17:19H.W. Bush and Clinton
17:20going and helping out
17:21people after they get hit
17:22by a tidal wave
17:23or something horrific.
17:24They just came together.
17:25They stopped talking politics.
17:26Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter.
17:28They just become above it all.
17:29Almost statesmen.
17:30And I don't want to get into it.
17:31You go to George W. Bush now.
17:33You don't even know
17:33if he's Republican or Democrat.
17:34He won't even talk about it.
17:35Barack Obama's become
17:36more political.
17:37He has not left Washington.
17:39Even though he hasn't had
17:40the job in six, seven years
17:41or a job,
17:42he's probably got $200
17:43or $300,000 to sit down
17:44and talk to somebody
17:45just now over
17:46near in Pennsylvania.
17:47I expected him
17:48to have lofty, grandiose views
17:49and things of things
17:50he could have done better.
17:51Instead, he's got more
17:52in the mud,
17:53more in the weeds,
17:54and he's got to say to himself,
17:55what did I actually accomplish?
17:56Because it's all being undone.
17:58I'll bring it to the White House response.
17:59Barack Obama
18:00is the architect
18:01of the modern political division
18:02in America,
18:03famously for demeaning
18:04millions of patriotic Americans
18:06who opposed his liberal agenda
18:07as bitter for clinging
18:08to their guns and religion.
18:10You'd have to say,
18:11even though his rhetoric
18:12and his talent is fantastic,
18:14we were never as divided
18:15as we were when he was president,
18:17and he wants to make sure
18:18we never forget it.
18:19I mean, obviously,
18:20we need to learn from,
18:23internalize,
18:23and somehow grow
18:25from this moment, Harold,
18:26which at this point
18:27feels a little impossible,
18:29but we have to come together
18:30and we have to do it.
18:32Was the country
18:33more or less politically divided
18:36at the end
18:37of President Obama's term?
18:39So, I think every president,
18:43I don't know,
18:43I'm going to answer your question
18:44this way,
18:45I think it's relative probably,
18:46but I think every president
18:47is an answer
18:47to the previous president.
18:49And first term
18:51for President Trump
18:52came after
18:53President Obama's presidency,
18:55and then President Biden
18:56came after the first term
18:57of President Trump's presidency,
18:58so you can kind of see
18:59the continuum.
19:00Let me write this down.
19:01J.K. Rowling.
19:02Bob, let me replace
19:03with you, Martin.
19:04Every president's response
19:05to the previous president.
19:07My friend, Greg,
19:08is right to quote J.K. Rowling,
19:10and I agree a lot
19:11with what she said.
19:11She said something
19:12I thought was so important.
19:13She said,
19:13words are not violence.
19:14When you pretend that views
19:15that oppose your own are violence,
19:17you're justifying the use
19:18of actual violence
19:19towards the speaker.
19:21President Trump,
19:22I mean, President Obama,
19:23I thought,
19:23was trying to say that
19:24in the first part
19:25of that sit-down he had.
19:29And then he said
19:30the things he said
19:31about President Trump.
19:32Now, I think two things
19:33can be right at once.
19:34I think timing is important.
19:36I think as we find ourselves
19:37at this moment,
19:37I wish that President Obama
19:38had said all of this
19:39right after and said
19:41to Democrats,
19:42Democrats and Republicans,
19:43particularly Democrats,
19:44this is horrible.
19:45This is an affront
19:47to our country
19:47and to what we stand for.
19:49He is still the biggest,
19:50if not the biggest,
19:51one of the two biggest voices
19:52in our party.
19:53I'm glad he finally,
19:54I'm glad he finally
19:55said some words there.
19:56As we sit here today,
19:57I do,
19:58in my lifetime,
19:59and you've worked
19:59for a president, Kaylee,
20:01I've not.
20:02I don't remember a time
20:03when the president,
20:06right after a tragedy,
20:08didn't say something
20:09really trying to envelop
20:10and bring the country together.
20:11Now, President Trump,
20:12I give him the benefit of the doubt
20:12because Charlie
20:13was a great pal of his.
20:14He considered him
20:15another son
20:16of the way
20:17that it's been described.
20:18So the personal pain
20:19had to be so gripping.
20:21But as time went on,
20:22the president,
20:23I thought President Trump
20:24has gotten better
20:25in terms of his language
20:26and bringing us together.
20:27The person that brought us
20:28together the most
20:28was this governor
20:29out there in Utah
20:30who right away said,
20:31look, we didn't riot out here.
20:33We didn't burn anything out here.
20:35People out here were upset.
20:37We are angry.
20:38And we want to do
20:39everything we possibly can
20:40to bring justice
20:41to this situation.
20:42That's what we need
20:43national voices doing.
20:45And I hope that more Democrats,
20:47particularly Democrats,
20:48are doing that
20:49over the next several days.
20:50No, he absolutely did not.
20:52So, Kaylee, I ask you this.
20:55So, if, you know,
20:55to Harold's point,
20:56and I think he's right about this,
20:57I think every successive
20:59administration
20:59is a response
21:01to the previous administration.
21:03So, did President Trump
21:05start us down the road
21:08of attacking one another
21:09or did that start
21:11with President Obama
21:12or even before?
21:13I think President Trump
21:14is forced into a certain position
21:16because of the media's duplicity.
21:18When the media goes out there
21:19and does what we just played
21:21in the last block,
21:21makes this a Romeo and Juliet
21:23love story,
21:24lies about the motive,
21:26the only way to change that
21:28is the man with the biggest
21:29microphone in the world,
21:31President Trump,
21:32saying exactly
21:33what Tyler Robinson's motive was.
21:35And that is what he was doing.
21:36And good for him for doing it.
21:38For Obama,
21:38and I'll do this quickly,
21:39I know we're short on time,
21:40part of the job of the president
21:41is to pull people together.
21:42Okay.
21:43Have you talked to Joe Biden,
21:44your vice president,
21:45when he said the vaccinated
21:46have a right to be angry
21:47at the unvaccinated?
21:48Half the country should be angry
21:49at the other half.
21:50Did you talk to him
21:51when he said that those
21:52who oppose the Georgia voting law
21:53were segregationists,
21:55half the country segregationists?
21:56Did you talk to him
21:57when he called MAGA
21:58a clear and present danger,
22:00a threat to the very foundation
22:01of the republic?
22:02They do not respect
22:02the rule of law
22:03and the Constitution.
22:04Did you talk to your vice president?
22:05Was that pulling
22:06the country together?
22:06And did you talk to him
22:07when your vice president,
22:08Joe Biden,
22:09called half of the country
22:11MAGA supporters
22:12garbage?
22:13Spare me the
22:14pull the country together
22:15language
22:16until you talk to your
22:17former vice president
22:18because he ripped us apart
22:20for four years straight.
22:21Yes, he was not exactly
22:22a continuation
22:23of the Obama presidency.
22:27But where do we stand
22:29when you've got
22:30a former president
22:30attacking a current president?
22:32Does it make things better?
22:33You know, I'm not
22:34that worried about it
22:35because, man,
22:36is he boring.
22:37Like, it's very hard
22:38to, like, actually absorb
22:39anything Obama's saying.
22:41You're just going, like,
22:41come on, dude.
22:42You could drive a truck
22:43through those spaces
22:44between words.
22:45It's just like,
22:46we get it,
22:46you're important,
22:48historic,
22:49but try to speed it up
22:50a bit.
22:50He is really
22:52the most boring person
22:54on the planet.
22:55And that says something.
22:56I have a rule of thumb,
22:57though.
22:58When they say
22:59it's both sides,
23:00it's their fault.
23:03Because when it's
23:04your fault,
23:05they just say
23:06it's your fault.
23:08You follow me?
23:09So every time you hear
23:10both sides do it,
23:12you know they're culpable.
23:13Because when it's
23:14our fault,
23:14they never say that.
23:16They just go,
23:17it's your fault.
23:17So remember that.
23:19Also, I want to go back
23:20to what I said before.
23:21You know,
23:21if you hear
23:22a performance artist
23:24say that
23:25a man could get pregnant,
23:27you go,
23:27what the hell?
23:28It's a performance artist.
23:29You don't expect that
23:30from a Supreme Court justice.
23:31That's what I'm talking about.
23:32It's the migration
23:34of leftist extremism
23:38into the mainstream.
23:40That is the problem
23:41that I think you have
23:42to deal with
23:42as a moderate,
23:44as the sole remaining
23:46voice of the Democratic Party.
23:48Now, let's just,
23:50I'm going to buy
23:51into this idea
23:51that both sides
23:53use derogatory language.
23:54I think it's true.
23:55I think the Democrats
23:56are more demonizing.
23:59They say you're a threat
24:00to democracy.
24:01Republicans call you
24:01a socialist.
24:02But let's just say
24:03for the sake of fun,
24:06it's equal.
24:07There's one thing
24:08you have to understand.
24:09Republicans are
24:10as square
24:11as their front lawns.
24:13There is research
24:13that shows
24:14that the right
24:14is concerned with law.
24:16The left sees law
24:18as oppressive.
24:19This is why
24:20we don't believe
24:21in a weak border.
24:22This is why
24:22we don't believe
24:23in getting rid of bail.
24:25This is why
24:26we think
24:26if you get,
24:27if you,
24:27if you steal
24:28$900
24:29from, I don't know,
24:31T.J. Maxx,
24:32you should go to jail.
24:33That's just
24:33in our DNA.
24:35So when you think,
24:36okay,
24:37we're going to,
24:37I'm going to say
24:38Brian Kilmeade's a jerk
24:39doesn't mean
24:40that I want people
24:41to attack him
24:42because that's not
24:43how Republicans
24:43and conservatives think
24:45because we rely
24:46on law and order
24:47to solve our problems.
24:49But for some reason,
24:50the left
24:51has been able
24:52to push this idea
24:53that violence
24:54is how you speak
24:55to power.
24:56And when you see
24:57somebody like Charlie,
24:58you realize
24:59that's power.
25:00Perhaps
25:00the most powerful
25:01conservative voice
25:02in a generation
25:04and they go,
25:06violence is acceptable
25:07to speak to power.
25:09We don't do that.
25:10That's why
25:10when people say
25:10both sides,
25:11it's like,
25:12I'll give you that
25:13even though I disagree.
25:14But you got to understand,
25:15ours is cauterized.
25:16We don't move forward.
25:18We don't use our,
25:18we don't just go like,
25:19I heard Brian say this,
25:21I'm going to go
25:21beat up the cameraman.
25:22That's not how
25:23it works with us.
25:24Right.
25:24Why did I have to be used twice
25:26in a negative way?
25:27I'm trying to plant a seed.
25:29I've had death threats on me.
25:31You've had death threats on you.
25:32It goes,
25:32I just,
25:33when I say both sides,
25:34I know what direct thing it may,
25:35but I just,
25:35I just think we got to.
25:37But I'm not talking about you.
25:38I'm always trying to find answers.
25:39I'm not talking about you.
25:40I'm not talking about you at all.
25:41And I do agree with you.
25:42I do also believe
25:43that there's an undercurrent here
25:44of grievance
25:45that has spread from the left
25:47and could envelop the right
25:49at some point.
25:50Yes.
25:50Grievance and grief.
25:51It is a lot to grapple with
25:53as a country.
25:53Up next,
25:54think Joe Biden
25:54could do this?
25:56President Trump
25:57dazzles the royals.
25:59Stay with us.
25:59Yeah,
26:00you know what it is.
26:03Black and yellow,
26:03black and yellow,
26:04black and yellow.
26:05No,
26:05no,
26:06no,
26:07no,
26:08no,
26:09no,
26:10no,
26:11no,
26:12no,
26:13no,
26:14no,
26:15no,
26:16no, no,
26:17no, no,
26:18no, no,
26:19no, no,
26:20no, no,
26:21no, no,
26:22no, no,
26:23no, no, no,
26:24Do not forget, we are lost in the sky
26:27That is my life, but do not forget
26:35Until the sky will keep my eyes
26:38Until the sky will still be able to
26:42Those walls will fall in the last February
26:47President Trump getting the royal treatment during his second state trip to the UK
26:53Riding with King Charles in a horse-drawn carriage
26:58That's right, Camilla was steering it
27:01Inspecting the guard of honor at Windsor Castle
27:05Watching the Royal Air Force do a red arrow salute
27:08And toasting a state dinner, watch
27:12We are, as a country, as you know, doing unbelievably well
27:17We had a very sick country one year ago
27:22I believe we're the hottest country anywhere in the world
27:26In fact, nobody's even questioning it
27:30In your face, Charles
27:33Harold, why is this important?
27:35It's really hard to care about this, but I'm doing my best
27:38I've talked a lot
27:39That's a question?
27:40I've talked a lot in the last two segments
27:41I'll just say three quick things
27:43The Brits do pageantry better than anyone
27:45I hope that the president and King Charles
27:48I know the prime minister was there
27:49It's really the prime minister he needs to be talking to
27:51He might have had a brief conversation about Ukraine
27:53And I hope we are able to collaborate them on AI
27:56And some of the pharma stuff they talked about
27:58And three, the president's probably relieved we got a rate cut today
28:02Which kind of throws, it's a little bit of a shame on our shade
28:05When he says we're doing so well
28:06You normally cut rates when there's some headwinds coming to the economy
28:09I'm glad they cut rates
28:11But more importantly, I congratulate the president
28:13No president's ever gotten a second state visit
28:15So congrats to him and the first lady
28:17You know, Kennedy
28:19They always use the phrase pomp and circumstance
28:22I suppose that
28:24That's a good thing
28:27I don't get this at all
28:29I just don't get it
28:30Why are you hosting this segment?
28:32I picked this segment because I had nothing to say
28:35I don't mind it
28:37I'm fascinated by the 155-foot table
28:434,000 pieces of cutlery
28:47You know the food sucks
28:49Not necessarily
28:50I would like to try for myself
28:51Their desserts are great
28:52They wouldn't swap me in with Stuart Varney
28:54Which I think is really weird
28:55Why did they send him?
28:57Because he's British
28:58Absolutely, number one
28:59But number two
29:00I love Princess Catherine's
29:02Lovers Not Tiara
29:03It's beautiful
29:04It was a favorite of Princess Diana's
29:06Queen Elizabeth II
29:07From Queen Elizabeth II's personal collection
29:10And no, it was never worn by Princess Margaret
29:12Even though she
29:13Fictitiously referenced it
29:15And season one of the crown
29:17So, Kayleigh, let's talk about Prince Andrew
29:20That's fun
29:22I love your utter disdain for this segment
29:24So you make it wholly inappropriate
29:26Look, I will reply to that by just saying
29:31America is back as the world's hegemonic power
29:34Evidenced by the fact that this is the second state visit for President Trump
29:38And no Prince Andrew
29:40Sorry
29:41All right
29:42All right
29:43Brian, in the break
29:45Oh, gosh
29:46I have to go to the break
29:47I can't say anything?
29:48No, no
29:49All right, so just real quick
29:50I was able to cover that this morning
29:51Thanks for getting up early
29:52And thanks for your text messages
29:53I did feel like I did a good job
29:54We covered all this
29:55This morning
29:56It's like we ran out of gas and cars
29:58I thought it was in 1812 again
30:00We had nothing but horses and carriages
30:02And people with big hats
30:03I thought this guy was marching really weird
30:05But tomorrow is really going to matter
30:07Because tomorrow they're going to ask
30:08To cut tariffs on steel
30:09Tomorrow
30:10They're going to ask to help Ukraine
30:12Tomorrow they're going to say
30:13Hey, do us a favor
30:14Do us a favor
30:16And get a $10 billion economic deal
30:19When it comes to pharmaceuticals
30:20I want to reward this type of behavior
30:22That Brexit was Trump's idea
30:24He backed it
30:25Soon he's got a prime minister that likes him
30:27The British like him
30:29Look how far he has come
30:31Four years ago
30:32Or six years ago
30:33When he was there
30:34They thought he was an illegitimate leader
30:35Now they can't do enough for him
30:36Thank God
30:37That shows how much that Trump
30:38Yeah
30:39If it was 1812
30:40LJ would not have been upset with you this morning
30:41Oh, yeah
30:42Absolutely
30:43We were in the middle of it
30:44By the way, we wouldn't have a national anthem
30:45Without that war of 1812
30:46This is true
30:47Right
30:48He doesn't shut up, does he?
30:49He thinks this is Fox and Friends
30:50You would not even know the format of Fox and Friends
30:52He thinks you're Steve Ducey
30:55He's still on, right?
30:57I'm pretty sure
30:58Okay, coming up
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