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00:00Hello, everybody. I'm Joey Jones, along with Dr. Nicole Sapphire, Lydia Hu, and David Webb,
00:05and welcome to The Big Weekend Show, The Big Story Tonight. We're nearly a year out from
00:11the midterms, and Democrats are not in good shape. That's why they shut down the government
00:15and spent their Saturday at silly No Kings protest. Hey, we're live on MSNBC. I'm Jacob.
00:22What's your name? I said it's hard to hear you, but tell me what brings you out and to be inside
00:28this high unicorn costume today. Looking as ridiculous as we can, just so maybe we appeal
00:33to the president, because he is a ridiculous leader. We're going to tear up the crown.
00:41This is what democracy looks like. This is what democracy looks like.
00:46This is what democracy looks like. This is what democracy looks like.
00:48This is what democracy looks like. This is what democracy looks like.
00:51Yeah, and actor Robert De Niro decided there weren't enough theatrics yesterday,
00:54so he went on TV today. Let's take a look.
00:57We see it all the time. He will not want to leave. He set it up with his, I guess he's the
01:06Goebbels of the cabinet, Stephen Miller. He's a Nazi. Yes, he is. And he's Jewish. He should
01:14be ashamed of himself. And perhaps, understandably, the Republican
01:18response was maybe to mock the performances.
01:22You're in the friendly neighborhood Burger King, enjoying my No Kings day.
01:26Like he says right there, if you're heading to Eli Cross, you rule America.
01:31They needed a stunt. They needed a show.
01:35But beyond the No Kings protest, the far left continued rioting at ICE facilities.
01:39And unfortunately for Democrats, it looks like these antics aren't really helping them in their
01:56midterms. According to Cook Political Report, they need to win 16 of the toss-up seats to control
02:02the House, while Republicans only need to win three. And Republicans have a six-seat advantage in the
02:07Senate and Democrats still have to defend two of the four toss-up seats. We've got Jeff Paul. He's
02:12live and he's got the latest. Jeff? Yeah, Joe, and organizers estimate millions of people at more
02:18than 2,000 of those events in every single state took part in those No Kings protests. The gatherings
02:24were aimed at President Trump and his policies. However, Trump told Fox News, quote, I'm not a king.
02:30While there were some arrests reported in the Chicago area and in cities like Portland,
02:35the day of demonstrations were by far mostly peaceful. Many of the demonstrations centered
02:40around the current immigration crackdown, while others brought attention to the government shutdown
02:45and the fact that many federal workers right now aren't being paid.
02:49What the administration is doing is totally wrong. It's hurting our people. It's hurting our
02:56people. It makes me want to cry. So I'm glad to see all these people out here standing up for our
03:03country and for each other. I'm worried not so much for us, but I'm worried more for the people
03:09who are being detained and not given access to the rights that they should be.
03:17While some Republicans have referred to the protests as, quote,
03:20hate America rallies, many of those who attended say they're demonstrating because they love their
03:25country. Speaker of the House, though, Mike Johnson says if Trump was a king,
03:29the government wouldn't be open or wouldn't be shut down. It would be open, Joey.
03:33Yeah, I think he's right about that. Thanks, Jeff.
03:38All right, everybody. Lydia, I'll go to you first. You know, it is kind of all about the numbers
03:42when it comes to midterms. Without someone, without a polarizing figure at the top in a presidential
03:46election, when you go into midterms, it comes to who's retiring, what seats are open, what seats have
03:50been left open from appointments, stuff like that. So it's not always about which party is doing the best
03:55as much as where you are and who's running in that area. But, you know, like this Cook political
03:59report says Democrats still have a lean towards the advantage even in that scenario.
04:04Yeah, you know, I think just stepping back and kind of looking big picture at what the Democrats
04:08are up against. The Biden administration really left them in what I call is a pickle.
04:12They've got a leadership problem and they've got an issues problem. What type of issues can the
04:16Democrats really celebrate at this point that would lead them to argue that they should be put into power
04:20now? They left the economy in shambles. They left us with an open border. They left us with a national
04:24security issue. For families across the country, they're still trying to figure out how can they
04:29recover the losses in education that they suffered during COVID. Thank goodness that there are more
04:33options and more homeschooling options and charter school options. It's going to take a long time to
04:37recover that as we see from the latest national test results. You know, when it comes to the various
04:43leadership, that's another big issue that we can talk more about. There is no clear leader of the
04:48Democrat Party. We just saw this on full display in a recent town hall on another network when AOC was
04:54point-blank asked whether she was going to primary Chuck Schumer and she didn't even want to answer
04:58the question because, you know, that would just erupt into just full-on, you know, civil war on the
05:03Democrat side. You know, David, one thing I saw that happened this week is Caroline Levitt came out.
05:07A little bit guns a-blazing about what the Democrat Party may stand for and who their
05:11constituents may be. She got a lot of heat for this and I guess I understand why, but I also know
05:15exactly what she was saying because this is what they've shown. Let's take a listen.
05:18The Democrat Party's main constituency are made up of Hamas terrorists, illegal aliens and violent
05:26criminals. You know, Lydia said, talk about the policies. I mean, those are the policies they've
05:31shown. Yeah, I mean, and to take a point from Lydia and add a little of a twist on this,
05:37the leadership of the Democrat Party is ideology. They're bound to all of these radical ideologies
05:43that are out there, trans ideology. They're pro-illegal alien. They're pro-Hamas. That's
05:49a horrible ideology. You talk about real, you know, the kind of people that are going around
05:53executing, if it's the reporting bears out, probably dozens of people since the ceasefire
05:59in the Gaza Strip. So they're bound to supporting people who are for that in some way or claiming
06:06that there's a lie about America. In other words, the economy's not doing better. Yes, things are
06:12tough at times and that Americans should only be the ones getting benefits instead of illegal aliens
06:17on Medicaid. So the Democrats are bound to an ideology that is leftism when you put that all
06:23in one umbrella. And out of that, we can't afford that. As a country, we can't afford it.
06:28As communities, we can't afford it. You know, doctor, when the Democrat Party looks at the issues
06:34they think they can champion, I hate to pigeonhole you in this, but your name does start with doctor.
06:38They think health care is at the top of the list. They really feel like that's an issue
06:42they can own because of the big, beautiful bill. They say that's why they're shutting,
06:46they're continuing to keep the government closed. What do you say? Well, isn't it really
06:50interesting that the governments right now are saying that this is a health care crisis that
06:54was created by the GOP. This is the Republicans' crisis. And that's, they're blaming the shutdown
06:58right now on Republicans. But the reality is the state where we're at in health care all came
07:02under democratic rule, democratic policies, which was wildly dependent on the rising entitlement costs,
07:09large subsidy programs, and the fact that it is vulnerable because of these expiring subsidies.
07:14These are all democratic put forth policies. The reason they're where they are right now is
07:18because of things that they have done and they're wanting a bailout from the Republicans.
07:21The Republicans did not sign on to this health care crisis. They did not create it. And it is not
07:26their role to bail it out. Democrats need to come to the table and see what they have put forth is
07:31failing. It is not, not and has never been the affordable care act. It is the unaffordable care
07:35act. And the only people who should be focusing really on repealing and replace the ACA right now
07:40are Democrats because this is their mess. Yeah. And on top of that, the appropriations process is
07:45actually working and Democrats are ignoring it. I think it was Thune that offered them a health care
07:49vote and said, hey, if you want to have a vote on, on health care, we can do that. All right.
07:54Meanwhile, Democrats continue to eat their own. If Nancy Pelosi decides to run for reelection,
08:00well, she might be in trouble. California state Senator Scott Weiner is seen as her biggest
08:06challenger. He's made a career out of pushing dangerous far left woke policies, including
08:11protections for registered sex offenders. Wow. And placing biological men in women's prisons.
08:17Another wow. And the 85-year-old appears to be losing her touch,
08:24gripping a staffer for, or gripping a staffer for support. She snapped at a reporter
08:29when asked a simple question. Let's take a look.
08:34Why did you refuse the National Guard on January 6th?
08:37Thank you very much. Shut up. I did not refuse the National Guard. The president didn't send it.
08:43Why are you coming here with Republican talking points as if you're a serious journalist?
08:47The American people want to know. We still have questions. Thank you.
08:53David, I'm going to go to you on this because that look, I don't know who that reporter is,
08:57that look she gave the camera there at the end became kind of a viral meme over the weekend,
09:01or over the week. And it's this idea that, I mean, her response is to turn around and say shut up.
09:05I mean, like, you know, you bring it down to a preschool or a playground level, right?
09:09And the mom finger. She put her finger in her face.
09:12Yeah, exactly. Like, who does that?
09:13First of all, this is the queen of the Democrat party during the No Kings weekend
09:18telling you when to shut up, get it right. Nancy Pelosi has always been the power player,
09:23controls the money. Now she's watching it slip away and she wants to be the queen
09:27until she's out of office and maybe even then. This is not atypical for Nancy Pelosi.
09:33We typically don't see this in the media, but over the years,
09:36she has a history of snapping at reporters, of snapping at staffers.
09:40This has been well documented. There's lots of video out there.
09:44And now we're seeing it on full display. But again,
09:47this is the queen of the Democrat party on No Kings weekend. Remember that.
09:51You know, doctor, the problem here is if it's not Nancy Pelosi,
09:54who I think most people, the main credit she gets is that she had everyone to fall in line,
10:00even the AOCs when she had the gavel. But if it's not her, it's Hakeem Jeffries,
10:03and he does not look like someone that can wrangle the troops at all.
10:06No, I actually think Nancy Pelosi made a good speaker in her time.
10:09I think it is time for her to retire. I think physically she's not doing well,
10:13and maybe it is time for a new generation. But, you know, I don't know if you guys read
10:16that Axios report that came out about Hakeem Jeffries. I mean, this is just an overarching theme
10:21talking about the leadership in the Democratic Party. It was quite damning for him.
10:25Axios reached out to the congressional, the congressional Democrats who were up for re-election.
10:30113 responded. Less than 20% said that they would vote for him when it comes to being a speaker.
10:37And, you know, when we're actually looking at who trusts Congress right now,
10:41less than 12% of America thinks that Congress is doing a really good job.
10:44Two-thirds of Americans don't support the shutdown.
10:49So when it comes to Congress right now, no one is supporting them,
10:52and the Democrats do not have a message, kind of what Libya was saying earlier,
10:55was there is no message going forward.
10:57They're continuing to run on anti-Trump rhetoric,
11:00and they are going to continue to lose over and over again.
11:03And these younger generations coming up,
11:06they're going more extreme, more far left,
11:08and that is taking them so much far from center
11:11that it's going to take a while to get back to middle,
11:13and they're just a mess right now.
11:15They are. And on that topic, Lydia, of, like, who's in and who's out,
11:18who's getting supported, who's getting primaried,
11:20Democrats are also reportedly plotting against Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman
11:24because if he seeks a second term, they may be against him.
11:28Despite flipping the seat from a Republican to Democrat,
11:30he appears to have committed a cardinal sin for the Dems.
11:33He refused to vilify Trump and his supporters.
11:35Of course, he didn't want to call them fascist Nazis.
11:38Take a listen.
11:40I'm the only Democrat in my family.
11:42I grew up in a conservative part of Pennsylvania,
11:45and I grew up and I know and I love people that voted for President Trump.
11:51But they are not fascists. They're not Nazis.
11:54They're not trying to destroy the Constitution and those things.
11:57I refuse to call people Nazis or fascists,
12:02or I would never compare anybody, anybody to Hitler and those things.
12:08What's crazy about this to me, Lydia,
12:10is we had this conversation on The Five on Friday.
12:12If you look at his voting record, he's a strong Democrat.
12:15It's not like he's voting for the big, beautiful bill every time it comes up.
12:18It's not like he's voting for conservative policies.
12:21It's his rhetoric that they're not happy with.
12:23They're not happy with the fact that he's not calling people fascists and Nazis
12:27and Trump the devil and jumping on this divisive rhetoric.
12:32It's his lack of rhetoric that he has.
12:34It's not his rhetoric.
12:35Yeah, lack of rhetoric.
12:35Right.
12:36And haven't we learned that language matters?
12:38We can't throw around words like that
12:40and not expect that there to be consequences.
12:42I've spent a lot of time in Pennsylvania
12:44for the Fox Business Network talking to voters there
12:47because it's a big, obviously it's a swing state,
12:50but there's a lot of issues there
12:51that really resonate with the Republican Party economy
12:54and a major energy-producing state.
12:56And Senator Fetterman knows that,
12:58that many of his constituents are Republicans.
13:00And I spoke to a lot of union members
13:01who actually broke ranks with union leadership
13:04to say they supported Trump.
13:06They liked Republican ideas.
13:07So Senator Fetterman is just simply catering to,
13:09you know, I think the voters in this state.
13:11You know, David, it's not lost on me
13:12that the guy that came in saying a lot of divisive things,
13:16wearing a hoodie just to spite people,
13:18he goes through a major health crisis,
13:20has to take some time off to kind of get through that,
13:23and that makes sense.
13:24And on the back end of that adversity,
13:27he's got a cooler head and common sense.
13:30And so my point is not to say,
13:32oh, he had a stroke and now he thinks different.
13:33It's to say he went through something adverse
13:35and now maybe he's matured.
13:38I think there's an element of maturity,
13:40and I'm not the biggest Fetterman fan out there,
13:42but I think Lydia hits the key point.
13:44He's catering to his voters in Pennsylvania.
13:47You'd think about those 20 electoral votes
13:49that gave President Trump a presidency,
13:52in a state that is now shifting economically,
13:54especially in the Rust Belt with energy,
13:57with the, after the AI Summit in Pittsburgh,
13:59of all places,
14:00you look at Washington County and those areas.
14:03So when you look at Pennsylvania,
14:04that entire Rust Belt into Ohio,
14:06he realizes those connections matter to his base.
14:10Has he matured?
14:11I hope so, but you hit the point.
14:13He votes still with Joe Biden all the way.
14:17And what matters in office are the votes you cast,
14:20not the rhetoric or the words you use.
14:22All right.
14:22Listen, the Democrats are turning on him
14:24not because he's gone road, but because he doesn't.
14:26He represents what the Democratic Party used to be,
14:28JFK, Bill Clinton, pre-presidential Biden.
14:31I don't think he's kowtowing to his constituents right now.
14:34I think this is really where he is
14:35and where the Democratic Party used to be
14:37and where they should be.
14:38And if they want to get back to unifying the country,
14:40they should be following his lead.
14:42But when he casts his votes is what I'll judge him.
14:45That's the vote that matters.
14:46Yeah, I don't know.
14:47Maybe if they try to run against him,
14:48he'll swap parties and change his votes too.
14:50Doubtful, but maybe.
14:52All right, coming up on a jam-packed big weekend show,
14:55our very own U.S. military has now conducted
14:57a seventh deadly strike on an alleged drug-carrying vessel
15:01in the Caribbean
15:01as the new war on terror escalates.
15:04Plus, Bridgegate 2.0.
15:07Californians are getting mad at Newsom
15:09for playing politics,
15:10and the White House is weighing in.
15:12But first, a possible Trump endorsement
15:14in New Jersey's race for governor
15:15is expected any day now.
15:18Push in the New Jersey governor's race
15:20between Republican Jack Cittarelli
15:22and Democrat Mikey Sherrill.
15:24New Fox News polling shows the race is getting tight
15:26with just a little over two weeks until Election Day.
15:29CB Cotton is live with the latest.
15:31Hey, Nicole, good to see you.
15:34An even closer deadline.
15:35Early voting begins a week from today,
15:37and both candidates, Republican Jack Cittarelli
15:40and Democrat Mikey Sherrill
15:42are leaning into big names from their respective parties
15:45to try and reach voters.
15:47Today, Sherrill hit the trail
15:48with Maryland governor Westmore,
15:50and yesterday, the Democratic hopeful
15:52also attended one of those No Kings protests.
15:55The race to the governor's mansion
15:57has grown increasingly bitter and personal.
16:00Sherrill, a former Navy pilot,
16:02has accused Cittarelli of going on a witch hunt
16:05over her military records,
16:07and Cittarelli has said he's going to sue Sherrill
16:10over some of her remarks that he says were defamatory.
16:14Our latest Fox poll shows among registered voters,
16:17her lead is shrinking.
16:19Now she's up just four points over Cittarelli.
16:22This is down from her seven-point lead in late September.
16:26One key issue in the race,
16:28rising cost in the Garden State.
16:30And with just weeks to go,
16:31Sherrill is not letting up from her strategy,
16:34painting New Jersey's pains as problems from the White House.
16:38We know what the fight is.
16:43As we see this president attacking vulnerable communities,
16:47running one of the most racist governments
16:49we've seen in our lifetimes.
16:53Cittarelli, though, has told voters,
16:54listen, it's a strength to be connected to the White House,
16:58not a liability.
16:59And he believes he can deliver results
17:01because of that connection.
17:02He also points to his cross-party endorsements
17:05from several current and former Democrats
17:08as things going in his favor.
17:12They know what a failure the past eight years have been,
17:14and they're scared hell of her serving
17:17because it's just going to be four more years.
17:19So I'm working like hell to produce a Republican majority.
17:24President Trump has endorsed Cittarelli
17:26and will soon hold tele-rallies
17:28with the GOP hopeful to rev up MAGA voters.
17:30And this past week,
17:32former President Barack Obama endorsed Sherrill.
17:34Back to you, Nicole.
17:35Thanks so much, C.B. Cotton.
17:40Well, Governor Gavin Newsom
17:42is in hot water with Californians again.
17:44He closed Interstate 5
17:46during the Marine Corps' demonstration yesterday,
17:48falsely claiming it was for safety concerns
17:51and attacked the Trump administration
17:52for putting drivers in danger.
17:55Even the Oceanside Assistant Police Chief said
17:57no one was going to be hit by anything,
17:59but commuters were still waiting hours
18:01in complete gridlock.
18:03Man, California traffic is bad enough.
18:06The last thing that they need
18:07is the governor shutting down the freeways.
18:09Joey, listen, we know that Governor Newsom
18:12is one for theatrics and media stunts.
18:15Do you think that this was another media stunt,
18:17that he was just trying to bring negative attention
18:19to one of President Trump's celebrations of the military?
18:21I don't think it.
18:22I know it.
18:23I was stationed at that base.
18:24I talked to folks that were involved
18:25in the meetings leading up to this.
18:27This is the type of training
18:28that happens incredibly often out there.
18:31Basically, I sent a fire plan sketch to our producer,
18:36and she said, I'm not sure what I'm looking at,
18:37so we're not going to show it right now
18:38because it's kind of hard to decipher.
18:40But basically, we've sketched this out.
18:42We know exactly how these guns work.
18:44There's an area on the beach that shoot the rounds,
18:47and there's an area on the base,
18:49which is on both sides of Interstate 5,
18:52where the rounds land.
18:53There's no way for this to be unsafe
18:55for motorists going up and down I-5.
18:58It literally happens all the time.
19:00So what did he do?
19:02He tried to create his own version of Bridgegate,
19:04and I hope that the same type of scandal follows him.
19:07Well, David, just like what we saw with Bridgegate,
19:09you know, it's not just about people sitting in traffic.
19:12This actually has consequences,
19:14impeding commerce and other things.
19:16What's your take?
19:16Yeah, I mean, and to Joey's points,
19:18all of that's been going on.
19:20Think about the truckers, for example.
19:23If a trucker times out because they have to wait
19:26or they have to reroute,
19:28that means the load doesn't get to a dock,
19:30doesn't get to a ship, doesn't get somewhere on time.
19:32That means you delay that trucker.
19:34It can cost money,
19:36cost the industry's money that are involved,
19:38whether it's the shipper or the receiver,
19:40whether it's going to your Walmart,
19:41maybe it's a prime truck if you're an Amazon user,
19:44whatever it is.
19:45And that impacts people's lives.
19:47So what the governor did was he had a hissy fit
19:50over something that's been going all along
19:53to try and create something that ends up harming people.
19:57The fact is that all the other people that were on the road,
20:00that they had to make changes in their day.
20:03So think about all the families, the games,
20:05think about what he did.
20:07The impact was much wider.
20:09And I hope those Californians or whoever they were on the road
20:11are actually looking at it going,
20:14I spent four hours going somewhere.
20:16It should have taken me an hour.
20:17Lydia, what's your take?
20:18Dr. Nicole, I would just add this.
20:19Yesterday on the program,
20:21you know, we sat here, Joey,
20:22I was here with Joey and we watched the incredible celebration,
20:25celebrating 250 years of the U.S. Marine Corps.
20:29I felt so proud just to sit by and be able to celebrate that
20:32and watch that alongside with you.
20:33I think everyone should note
20:35that Gavin Newsom would rather take a celebration
20:38honoring the men and women who bravely serve this country
20:41and put that on the back burner
20:43because he saw an opportunity to create a political issue.
20:45Didn't it work?
20:46Because what are we talking about?
20:47The bridge gate.
20:48Well, I'm trying to bring it back around
20:49to what we should be talking about,
20:50which is thanking the people that are serving our lives.
20:52And just real quick,
20:53the only reason bridge gate mattered
20:54is there were allegations that, you know,
20:56organs didn't make it to where they were going,
20:58people died in ableances, stuff like that.
20:59If any of that happened yesterday,
21:01I hope we hear about it.
21:01I hope it didn't,
21:02but if it did, I hope we hear about it
21:03because that blood will be on Gavin Newsom's hand.
21:05Yeah, absolutely.
21:06Investigation should be had.
21:07Still ahead, the trans fad is fading
21:10and New York City's GOP mayoral candidate,
21:13Curtis Siliwa,
21:14is facing more pressure to drop out
21:16as socialist Zohran Mondani widens his lead.
21:19Siliwa is making his case.
21:21One, two, three.
21:24Department of Justice opens criminal investigation
21:27into NYAG Latita James.
21:30James's attorney, Abelawa,
21:33called the accusations against his clientele
21:35baseless and long discredited.
21:38The Department of Justice
21:39has opened a criminal investigation
21:41into New York Attorney General Latita James.
21:44Fox News has learned.
21:49A source familiar with the matter
21:51confirmed that a grand jury
21:53in the Eastern District of Virginia
21:54sent out subpoenas related to accusations
21:57that James misrepresented
21:59a single-family home in Virginia
22:02as a primary residence
22:03to obtain more favorable loan terms.
22:09News of the federal probe
22:11follows a criminal investigation...
22:13News of the federal probe
22:23follows a criminal record...
22:25Sorry, one more time.
22:30News of the federal probe
22:32follows a criminal referral
22:34from the Trump administration's
22:36federal housing finance agency.
22:39Director William Pulte,
22:41who requested the DOJ
22:43investigate James over that matter,
22:46had another incident
22:47in which he allegedly misrepresented
22:48the number of liveable units
22:50in a multi-family Brooklyn house
22:53to once again obtain better loan terms.
22:55These baseless and long-discredited allegations
22:59put to rest by my April...
23:03Is that my as in my or my?
23:09Is it meant to me?
23:13I'm going to change that to the, I think.
23:15Yeah, yeah.
23:16By April 24th.
23:19We start from these baseless.
23:20These baseless and long-discredited allegations
23:25put to rest by the April 24th letter
23:28to the Department of Justice
23:29are suddenly back in the news
23:31just days after President Trump
23:33publicly attacked Attorney General James.
23:37James' attorney, Abilawa, said Thursday.
23:39This appears to be the political retribution
23:44President Trump threatened to extract
23:46that A.G. Bondi assured the Senate
23:48would not occur on HAL watch.
23:51If prosecutors are genuinely interested in the truth,
23:54we are prepared to meet false claims with facts.
23:58After Pulte's criminal referral
24:00was sent to the Justice Department,
24:02specifically U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi,
24:05Lawell followed up with his own letter to Bondi
24:08and the Justice Department
24:09accusing the President of seeking political retribution.
24:16James has been part of a group
24:18of Democratic Attorney Generals
24:19who have sued to halt many of Trump's orders
24:23during his first few months in the Oval Office.
24:34Thank you, mate.
24:36Thank you, thank you, thank you.
24:38Additionally, James was the lead prosecutor
24:54in a case she brought up against
24:56Trump and Trump Organization
24:58that alleged the President,
25:00while he was a candidate,
25:02falsified business records
25:03to obtain more favourable loan terms.
25:06He was ultimately ordered by a judge
25:08to pay hundreds of millions
25:10by a still appealing ruling.
25:12The stunning hypocrisy of President Trump's complaint
25:16that the Justice Department
25:17had been politicised and weaponised against him
25:20is laid bare
25:21as he and others in his administration
25:24are now asking you
25:25to undertake the very same practice
25:28Lawell wrote to in his letter to Bondi.
25:30Lawell in his letter
25:35pointed to instances
25:36where Trump has called for revenge
25:38and instances when the President
25:40has personally attacked James.
25:43Lawell also responded to allegations
25:45including the claim
25:46James listed a home in Virginia
25:48as her primary residence
25:50while serving as a state official in New York.
25:53According to Lawell,
25:54James had no intention
25:56of using the property
25:57as a primary residence
25:58and her indication of this
26:01in a power of attorney letter
26:02was a mistake.
26:04Lawell pointed out
26:05there were other documents
26:07in which James indicated to her
26:09lender that the Virginia home
26:12would not be her primary residence.
26:15James is also accused of fraud
26:17for allegedly inflating
26:19the number of liveable units
26:21in a multi-family Brooklyn home
26:23to receive better interest rates.
26:25Lawell accuses Poltay
26:27of disregarding updated documentation
26:30listing the residence
26:31as a four-unit multi-family residence
26:33and instead pointing to
26:35a certificate of occupancy
26:36from 2001.
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