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Police have a puzzle to solve when they find a gifted programmer and a jilted lover at the scene of 62-year-old Kathy Anderson's murder. However, nothing can prepare them for where this investigation will lead.
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00:00People want to come to Silicon Valley and make money.
00:09Every single day, somebody wakes up with a whole new idea that we didn't think about.
00:14Hoping and dreaming to make that first billion dollars.
00:18The tech world culture, it motivates a lot of people to come to Silicon Valley.
00:24But then there's the dark side of Silicon Valley.
00:26Some people make it, some people don't.
00:30And for those folks that don't make it, sometimes their minds take them places that we can't even imagine.
00:38Sergeant Sandra Brown, Palo Alto Police Department.
00:41I spent my career investigating major crimes in Silicon Valley.
00:45Like Kathy Anderson.
00:47My initial reaction was one of shock because it was such a gruesome scene.
00:57The police are trying to figure out how are these people connected?
01:03What are the odds that he comes over her home this specific night and she's dead?
01:09Menlo Park is a small town.
01:32Very wealthy.
01:33A lot of our CEOs and tech bros in Silicon Valley reside in Menlo Park.
01:41I worked 30 years for the city of Palo Alto, and when I first came to Palo Alto, Menlo Park was sort of like this beautiful residential community for all those folks who were working in those high-tech industries.
01:55It was a very laid-back, sleepy town, so it was a very safe area. You never locked the doors.
02:04I was employed by the town of Atherton, and Kathy was working there, too. So that's how we became friends.
02:16Kathy Anderson was the arborist for the town of Atherton, which is just north of Menlo Park.
02:21She was a really loving, caring person who was a light in the community.
02:27She loved gardening and liked making bouquets. That was her pastime.
02:33If she wasn't working, she liked to be in her garden.
02:39Kathy was amazing. She was like a sister to me. Ride or die, as they say, you know.
02:45And as the years went on, we did some traveling together with her husband, Billy.
02:52They were a wonderful couple. They adored each other.
02:56I was around them a lot, and it was fun to be around.
03:01Just by the way they were living, I would assume they were doing quite well.
03:05Billy owned a very successful plumbing company that was over 100 years old in Palo Alto.
03:13Kathy and her husband benefited from this deluge of money coming into Tillacombe Valley in the 90s and the early 2000s.
03:21They lived in an old craftsman home, 100-year-old home that belonged to the old postmaster, and it had such charm.
03:32The garden was designed with the most incredible flowers. It was beautiful. It was a beautiful home.
03:41She never had children. It just wasn't in their cards, I suppose. I never knew why, but she would have been a wonderful mother.
03:51Kathy and her husband were a very happy couple.
03:54They were financially secure. They had a beautiful home in Menlo Park.
04:00But when he died of leukemia in 2007, Kathy found herself alone, and she was very sad. She was very heartbroken.
04:12Just being young and losing your husband, it's hard.
04:15She was in her 50s at the time, and you're still thriving when you're 50, you know?
04:20You're still having fun. You're still young.
04:24And that was her nature. She loved to have fun.
04:31Kathy's a very outgoing person. She's got a lot of girlfriends.
04:34They see each other quite often.
04:36But in reality, when Kathy's home, she's sad because she's alone.
04:40And in 2011, Kathy Anderson retired from her arborist job.
04:47That same year, a little tech company called Facebook moved into town.
04:53And it changed the landscape of Menlo Park.
04:59When Facebook showed up, it had a pretty small footprint.
05:01They had a kind of a small office in downtown Palo Alto.
05:06When they moved to Menlo Park, they bought a giant campus there.
05:10And at that point, I feel like the perception of them started changing within the community.
05:14They ballooned massively in terms of usage.
05:16They got way more employees.
05:20It kind of became a big negotiation between them and Menlo Park about how they can keep on expanding
05:25while still not disrupting the surrounding community too much.
05:30When Facebook came to Menlo Park, it attracted programmers, engineers,
05:37people who were into gaming, apps, creating new technology.
05:40Stay focused and keep shipping.
05:45So many people flooded into Menlo Park from all over the world.
05:53But it's caused an increase in property value.
05:57So there's been a turnover in some residents.
06:01It's not the same as it was.
06:04I remember in the old days, you knew everybody.
06:07And now, I don't even recognize the place anymore.
06:11Every time I go there, it's so crowded.
06:13And, you know, it's not fun anymore.
06:19By 2018, people started to raise more big picture concerns.
06:25And it was exposing the negative part of what could happen in Silicon Valley.
06:30On December 12th of 2018, around 5.30 in the evening,
06:42the Menlo Park Police Department was dispatched to a house on Valparaiso in Menlo Park.
06:47911, emergency.
06:48Our dispatchers got a call from a frantic person reporting that someone had killed Kathy Anderson.
06:57The dispatcher asked if the person who killed Kathy was still there, and he said that he was.
07:03And then he said, send everybody.
07:05When officers first arrived on scene, they could hear yelling coming from inside the house.
07:15And they saw a man inside the living room, and they called for him to come outside.
07:21The first man who walked out was kind of a regular-looking white male, a little bit older, maybe in his 50s.
07:31And he was very upset, crying, kind of hysterical, saying, he's inside, he's inside.
07:36He said he killed Kathy.
07:39The man was handcuffed by officers.
07:42Then they saw someone else was inside the living room.
07:44The second male who walked out, also white, but much younger, probably early 20s.
07:53Very calm, not resisting arrest whatsoever, doesn't say anything.
07:58Complies with the police request to put his hands behind his back.
08:02They don't know what's going on.
08:03They don't know who's done what, what the dangers are, who's in the house.
08:09They then started a search of the residents.
08:11And at the landing of the staircase leading into the basement was a pillow that was bloodied.
08:20And then in the basement, down in the dirt, they found the body of what was later identified as Kathleen Anderson.
08:31She was laying face down with a huge pool of blood underneath her head and neck area.
08:38She appeared to be in pajamas.
08:41There was a very bloody saw right next to her on the ground.
08:45They could see that she had been almost entirely decapitated.
08:49When investigators turned the body of the victim over, they saw that there was a foreign object in her left eye and realized that it was the back of a ballpoint pen.
09:03When I think about all of the cases that I handled, this was without question the most horrific in terms of the way the killing actually happened.
09:21I have never seen or heard of a murderer where someone had a pen lodged in their eye.
09:27Any homicide is a horrific scene, but this homicide was such an example of overkill.
09:36This is a very gruesome murder scene, and it's highly unusual.
09:44It is very rare to have a homicide where a suspect does this type of damage to a human body.
09:49This is one of the most horrifying murders in Silicon Valley in history.
09:58We have two men in the home with the body.
10:01The question is, which one of them is the killer?
10:15I remember it was a Wednesday.
10:17I remember it really well.
10:19I was so sad.
10:20Yeah, it was hard.
10:29Before Kathy's death, there wasn't a murder there since, like, 12 years.
10:36I mean, I was shocked.
10:40You just don't believe somebody you care and love that much that happens to.
10:45Losing her life in that manner was just devastating, you know?
10:50Kathy Anderson was murdered in her own home.
10:57It's a horrific crime.
10:59And when investigators arrive, there are two men in the house.
11:07In a call like this, everyone who's inside the residence is going to be detained.
11:11We want to hold on to everyone and make sure that we identify who they are before anything else happens.
11:20Menlo Park Police detained two suspects.
11:25One of them was a man named Daniel Beggett.
11:29He claimed that he called 911.
11:32He also informed the police that he and Kathy Anderson at one time had a relationship.
11:37The second man that was detained is a younger person.
11:43His name is Francis Wolke.
11:45He's not very cooperative with the police.
11:48He's not saying very much.
11:49So, police are wondering, who is Francis Wolke and what's his connection to Kathy Anderson?
11:57As we dig into our investigation of Francis Wolke, we learned that he first came to Silicon Valley around 2014.
12:11Francis Wolke grew up in Cincinnati, Ohio.
12:13He was the oldest of eight children.
12:17Francis Wolke dropped out of the University of Cincinnati and then came to Silicon Valley via bus.
12:23He came to Silicon Valley with dreams of becoming very rich and joining the 1%, the most elite and the most wealthy in the world.
12:39If you're a technologist or programmer, when you see the possibility of becoming a billionaire, flying around in jets, buying islands, that could be intoxicating if you have ideas that you think could shape the world.
12:51It motivates a lot of people to come to Silicon Valley, to kind of join that exclusive club.
13:011%.
13:01I see it as the masters of the world.
13:04You made it to the top.
13:05You have power.
13:06You have wealth.
13:06You have influence.
13:07The master of the universe.
13:10We read about the CEO all the time who's giving himself blood infusions.
13:15He wants to live forever.
13:16If you're not a millionaire, it would be almost unheard of.
13:20But if you have money to burn, it seems kind of more reasonable.
13:23I think Francis Wolke probably wanted to be a tech bro or at least be part of that tech community.
13:31He was described by some of his friends in the tech world as being very smart.
13:37That he had a really interesting program that people were actually interested in at one point.
13:44Wolke was working on a computer operating system and it was meant for people who wanted to educate themselves about computers and coding without schools.
13:53A lot of people are doing startups.
13:57A lot of them are tech oriented.
13:59And not all of them are going to be the next Facebook.
14:05But I think that's kind of what Francis Wolke was dreaming of.
14:13Francis Wolke goes to a cryptocurrency convention and he runs into a young man who's very similar to him.
14:20Daniel Gertschewitz.
14:21Daniel and him hit it off.
14:24They're both programmers.
14:26Daniel Gertschewitz was an engineer who worked for SpaceX.
14:30And since they were doing the same thing, they became very fast friends.
14:33When Gertschewitz found out that Wolke didn't have anywhere to live after they had hit it off and they were both coding, he invited him to stay with him.
14:42He stayed with Daniel for a little while at an incubator house called the Embassy House.
14:46If you've ever seen the TV show Silicon Valley, you may be familiar with the concept of incubator houses.
14:53It is a home where engineers, app creators, game creators are all living in a single house.
15:01They're all splitting the cost of living there.
15:03An incubator is basically a place where it nurtures young entrepreneurs.
15:07If you have an idea to start a business, you have mentorship, you have space where you can work.
15:12Basically, you have resources to help you kind of bring your ideas to fruition.
15:19Francis Wolke wanted to follow the advice of Mark Zuckerberg.
15:24Move fast and break things.
15:26It's easy to see why somebody who wants to start a revolution or introduce a new product that changes the world would ascribe to that kind of mindset.
15:36There is, I guess, a culture around tech to really dedicate yourself to it.
15:42But he had an unhealthy lifestyle, according to his friends.
15:45He was isolated.
15:46He worked a lot.
15:49He would sometimes stay awake for days at a time.
15:52He would drink five to eight cups of coffee a day and just work on the code 24 hours.
15:59I think he took it to such an extreme that he thought that the founders of the Microsoft operating system were after him and wanted to kill him for his ideas.
16:11He was definitely experiencing paranoia.
16:16Daniel Gertrudevich is starting to regret that he invited Francis Wolke to move in.
16:20He's being very rude to the other designers and the other programmers.
16:27The thing that was universally said about him was that he was very arrogant, thought he was smarter than everybody else, thought he was better than everybody else.
16:38Francis Wolke's behavior eventually reaches a point that Daniel Gertrudevich asks him to leave, and now Francis Wolke is homeless.
16:45When I think of, like, the tech bro, I don't think of someone who's homeless and as arrogant as he was about his sort of superiority in the world.
16:57Now, his parents back in Ohio find out about this, and they've been sending him money, but they have to cut him off.
17:03They're very concerned about him, so they send him a bus ticket, and they have him come back home to Cincinnati, Ohio.
17:08Francis Wolke was another one of those dreamers that came to Silicon Valley.
17:18He had a great idea.
17:19He was looking for a way to make it big.
17:21It didn't work out so well for him, so he went back to Ohio, but he didn't stay very long.
17:26Investigators discovered that his bus ticket, which was located in his backpack at the crime scene, said he got back to Silicon Valley just two days earlier, two days before Kathy Anderson was murdered.
17:46Investigators are looking at why is he in Kathy Anderson's home at the conference room where they're going to interview them.
17:57Francis Wolke is not talking.
17:59He seems to just shut down.
18:02On the other hand, the second man wants to talk.
18:05He wants to tell his story.
18:06And this is where the case takes a crazy turn.
18:20As we recall, Menlo Park Police find two men in Kathy Anderson's home.
18:26We've already discussed Francis Wolke.
18:31And he's looking like a very strong suspect.
18:34But there's another man.
18:36Daniel Baggett.
18:38He tells the police he called 911.
18:41And he also claims that he and Kathy Anderson at one point had a relationship.
18:47Investigators discovered that Daniel Baggett and Kathy Anderson met in 2009 at a bar two years after her husband passed away.
19:03I was there that night.
19:05We decided to stop at this dive bar next to my house.
19:09You know, we went there just for fun to have a glass of wine.
19:14All of a sudden, I turn around and Kathy's sitting, talking to this guy.
19:19So I walk up, introduce myself, and he says, my name is Dan.
19:24Dan Baggett.
19:25I noticed he's a lot younger.
19:29I noticed he's a lot younger.
19:30Kathy didn't notice.
19:31She liked it.
19:32She didn't have any problem with it.
19:33I know that she started seeing him after that.
19:38But I was not impressed.
19:40Not at all.
19:41Just something about the way he presented himself, the way he talked, his demeanor.
19:49But I just never, I never want to tell her, you know, don't see her.
19:54You know, I'm not that type of person because I figure they'll figure it out on their own.
19:57But she met him, and he was giving her a lot of attention.
20:01And a lot of times when ladies get older, they like that attention from a young guy.
20:09Plus, he had a daughter, and Kathy felt so sorry for her because Dan was a single dad,
20:14and she just wanted to help her.
20:16So, a couple weeks later, I spoke with Kathy on the telephone,
20:20and she had told me that Dan and his daughter, Haley, had moved in.
20:25I was really surprised that that was her choice.
20:29After Daniel and his daughter moved into Kathy's home, that's when the trouble began.
20:37I know the problem was the daughter.
20:43I do remember money being taken.
20:46Things were missing.
20:51Kathy would complain to me about it.
20:53And I was told that the little girl got very violent with her often,
20:57would try to hit her, which shocked me.
21:02In fact, there was a day that she broke a door, put her hand through a wall.
21:07Yeah, she was an angry child.
21:12Haley eventually moved out and went off to college.
21:17But police learned after Daniel Baggett's daughter went to college,
21:21Kathy and Daniel's relationship was still struggling.
21:24There were still problems.
21:28Finally, in 2018, she asked him to leave.
21:31But during the investigation, the police find out that Daniel Baggett has returned to her home a few times.
21:39He was still coming around.
21:41I think he kind of really wanted to continue their relationship.
21:45I gave her a really bad time.
21:48I go, what?
21:49Why are you still seeing that guy?
21:50What are you seeing that guy for?
21:52Pam, I've got to be nice to him because he might drop the charges.
21:55You know, I got arrested.
21:57I go, what?
21:58Even though she and Daniel Baggett have officially broken up and he's moved out.
22:10One night, Daniel's over at Kathy's house and they get into an argument.
22:12She wants to put more separation between the two of them.
22:15It starts to get heated.
22:18And she ended up having to pull a gun on him to try to get him to leave.
22:23She starts yelling and the neighbor heard her yell.
22:27And then the police come because the neighbors complained about her yelling that she was going to shoot him.
22:34And then they arrested her for brandishing the weapon.
22:37It's not long after Kathy and Daniel Baggett got into it in her home where she pulled the gun
22:43when the police discover her murdered in their own home.
22:46You have a situation where people have dated, someone's at the crime scene and you have half of that relationship who is dead in the basement.
23:00You know, domestic violence murders happen all the time.
23:05And so there is always some suspicion when you have a situation like this, was this person involved?
23:12When Kathy was murdered, the first thing I thought was that Dan had something to do with it.
23:20He had something to do with Kathy's demise, for sure.
23:28I didn't know very much about Francis Wokey, but the first thing I thought was, hmm, did Dan know this guy?
23:34I thought, well, maybe he told this guy about Kathy's place.
23:42This is a strange case.
23:45You have Kathy Anderson.
23:47You have Daniel Baggett.
23:49You have Daniel's daughter, Haley.
23:51And you have Francis Wokey.
23:54The police are trying to figure out how these people are all connected.
23:59And right now, they can't answer that question.
24:03Well, there's apparently one person who might be able to answer that.
24:06My name's Daniel Baggett, and I figure you're going to tell the story anyway, so I might as well, you know, have my, speak my piece.
24:29So here's Daniel Baggett, the ex-boyfriend of Kathy Anderson.
24:47Remember, she kicked him out of the house.
24:49What are the odds that he comes over her home this specific night, and she's dead?
24:54I'm suspicious of that.
24:55If that's all I have, I'm suspicious of him.
24:59Um, look, look, I'm going to be honest with you.
25:13Yeah, I mean, Kathy and I did have a contentious relationship at times.
25:16We, you know, we were very loud, vocal people.
25:19And, and we could be having an argument, but, you know, this, I love Kathy very dearly.
25:29Even though, you know, I was 13 years younger than her, it didn't really matter to us.
25:36It never was an issue for her and I.
25:37We just, we were, we were having, we were having fun.
25:40And we were, we were romantically involved for a while.
25:43And then I moved out in 2018.
25:46There was, there was, there was definitely, you know, a lot of ways it could have gone.
25:50And people looked at it from a lot of different ways.
25:52They didn't know the facts.
25:53That night, I just, I had this feeling in my stomach, just telling me to go by the house.
26:07I tried calling her earlier in the day, and I think the evening before, and I was unable to get a hold of her, which was uncommon.
26:14She always answered her phone.
26:15I got out of the truck and I noticed that the garbage cans were still in front of the house, which was extremely odd because she was very religious about pulling those in as soon as they would be dumped.
26:32And so the fact that those cans were still there told me that either A, she wasn't home, you know, or, or something was wrong, you know.
26:39So, Daniel started bringing the garbage cans towards the back of the residence.
26:45And upon getting to the back of the house, he saw that Kathy's car was parked there.
26:51He said there were just things that having lived there, he saw as immediate red flags.
26:59I called her again.
27:03And she didn't answer.
27:04And so I went inside and I started calling her name.
27:09And I saw her headband laying on the ground.
27:13And I went to the stairs.
27:18And that's when she came out of what used to be my daughter's bedroom.
27:23I mean, I don't live there anymore, so I wanted to make sure this wasn't a house guest or something.
27:26So I asked him, like, who are you?
27:28You know, what are you doing here?
27:29He didn't say anything, and he had this weird look on his face.
27:33I asked him, I said, where the f*** is Kathy?
27:35And who the f*** are you?
27:36Daniel said that the man did start walking down the stairs as if he planned to leave.
27:42So Daniel claimed to have been the person who called 911.
27:47He made a calculated decision that he could run to the kitchen and grab a knife, which he did, and got back to the staircase before the man was able to leave.
27:58And I told him, I said, there's no way out except for down these stairs.
28:02And, yeah, it was shortly thereafter when I heard the sirens.
28:07Daniel later told us that he didn't see Kathy.
28:09He never went down to the basement.
28:10But he sees this guy who he does not know.
28:13And Francis was saying to him, she's dead.
28:16I killed her.
28:17I killed her a while ago.
28:19And so Daniel is extremely distraught.
28:21They took me to the police station, and they're asking me, where were you?
28:28Well, why did you go there?
28:31They asked me what happened, like the interaction between me and Mr. Wolke.
28:34They asked me if I'd ever seen him before.
28:36And then they would ask me to go through it again.
28:37Maybe Daniel Baggett knew Francis Wolke, and maybe they came to some agreement, and that's how Francis Wolke got there.
28:48Or maybe his daughter Haley knew Wolke, and there's a connection there that led to Wolke being in Kathy's house that night.
28:55We needed to do an investigation to see whether or not there was a connection between Daniel Baggett and his family and Francis Wolke.
29:05It's a question that has to be asked.
29:10So the police detained Daniel Baggett for about 16 hours.
29:15But they have nothing to hold him on, so they let him go.
29:17When we released Daniel, we still have a lot of work to do to clear Daniel Baggett to confirm that he was not involved in any way in the homicide of Kathy Anderson.
29:30And part of that is going to be looking at all the communication records that we could get a hold of.
29:35So Daniel turned over his cell phone so that we could look at it and download it.
29:47Daniel Baggett is now released from custody, and lo and behold, he comes back to Kathy's house yet again.
29:56Daniel Baggett is found again trying to enter Kathy Anderson's house.
30:00He was climbing through a window to get into the house, and he got caught.
30:07It's a crime scene, and so no one was supposed to go inside.
30:12Why is Daniel back at the house? Is he trying to find evidence that he left behind?
30:16All of Daniel Baggett's behavior about this case is very suspicious.
30:22It doesn't make sense.
30:23It's possible that Daniel Baggett's story is a lie.
30:38So it's not long after Kathy Anderson was murdered,
30:42Daniel Baggett comes back to Kathy's house again, and the police are called.
30:46And his story is, I came to check on her cats.
30:51Strange.
30:54So you've climbed in the window to go feed the cat.
30:56That's correct.
30:59Why didn't he just contact the police to let them know,
31:02hey, I want to go take care of her cats.
31:04Would that be okay?
31:05Not just go back into the house after there's been a homicide,
31:08after he's been a suspect.
31:10Very strange.
31:13It didn't look good, you know, but Kathy loved those cats.
31:17And I was even thinking, these cats have gone a good two-plus days without food and water.
31:23Like, I got to go feed those cats.
31:25It's a crime scene, and so entering it is essentially tampering with evidence.
31:31That's why someone will get arrested for doing that.
31:39Daniel's explanation for why he returned, while it made the case more difficult,
31:44I can't fault him for going to the residence that he used to live in,
31:49where the lady that he loved was killed viciously,
31:53to take care of the cats that were still surviving.
31:56Because ultimately, I couldn't find a motive for him to want to have Kathy Anderson killed.
32:02Daniel Baggett was not an heir to any of Kathy's property.
32:08Daniel and his daughter didn't stand to gain financially from her death.
32:12After a very thorough investigation,
32:19it was abundantly clear to everyone that
32:23Daniel Baggett was in no way, shape, or form involved in the murder.
32:27Nothing that we could find connected Francis Wolke to Daniel Baggett or his family.
32:33All the evidence shows that Francis Wolke is the only person
32:36who was responsible for the murder of Kathy Anderson.
32:42The police discover, through the autopsy,
32:45that the pen that was in Kathy Anderson's eye
32:48actually matched another pen that was located
32:51in Francis Wolke's backpack that was found in the guest room in her home.
32:57They also found Kathy's blood on Francis' pants.
33:03That's enough to tell us that they have the right suspect in this case.
33:06Why did he do this?
33:12And how and why did Francis select this house?
33:15Was there something about it?
33:17So we think he was looking for food.
33:19You know, he was tired.
33:20He was hungry.
33:21He'd been on a bus for five days.
33:24When he got back from Cincinnati, he didn't have anywhere to stay.
33:26So he was actually sleeping on a balcony
33:30in Palo Alto at the Stanford campus.
33:34He maybe initially thought that this was an unoccupied house
33:38and I can go find some food and take a nap.
33:44He went in and ate something,
33:46and then he went upstairs and saw the victim in her bed.
33:50And then he told a defense investigator,
33:55he says he started hearing voices.
33:59And the voices told him,
34:02don't bitch out, time to join up.
34:04And he understood the voices to be saying,
34:07you need to kill this person in order to join the 1%.
34:11And he had always wanted to make it big in Silicon Valley.
34:16Not only that, the voices in Francis Wolke's head said
34:19if he really wanted to be part of the 1%,
34:21he had to kill someone and consume their flesh.
34:29Francis Wolke told one forensic psychologist
34:31he believed that the 1% would kill and consume human flesh
34:37for eternal youth and success
34:40and becoming part of this elite group of people.
34:43It's horrific.
34:44It's outlandish.
34:45But I do feel like the horror
34:47kind of draws a little bit
34:49from the whole biohacking culture
34:51that I think many in Silicon Valley
34:53have been experimenting with.
34:56The fact that he felt he needed to commit
34:58this heinous crime to get there
35:00just speaks to the pull of that kind of myth.
35:04Kathy Anderson was up in her bed
35:10when Francis Wolke began his attack.
35:14He began by strangling her.
35:18But when it didn't work,
35:20he stabbed her in the eye with a pen.
35:23And then he took her downstairs
35:25and attempted to behead her.
35:27It was gruesome.
35:31It was brutal.
35:32It's every woman who lives alone's worst nightmare
35:35of what happened to her.
35:39I think that it's hard to understand
35:42the randomness of this act.
35:44To imagine that someone at home alone
35:46would have an intruder from across the country
35:50walk into their home and kill her
35:52is almost beyond comprehension.
35:55And that may be one of the reasons
35:59that people initially thought
36:01that Daniel might have had something to do with it.
36:04From my perspective,
36:06Daniel did a heroic job
36:10of keeping the suspect there.
36:12And I don't know what would have happened
36:14to this case if it hadn't been for Daniel Baggett.
36:18He was the one that stopped Francis Wolke
36:20from getting away.
36:25If Francis Wolke had gotten away,
36:28it's possible that they would have never found him.
36:35The papers were pretty hard on me in the beginning
36:37because, you know, I got arrested for trespassing.
36:39I was never treated like a hero, let's just say that.
36:41But I just, I just wish she was still here.
36:45I loved Kathy very dearly
36:47and I was just glad that I was able to do
36:50what I believe Kathy wanted me to do,
36:52which was to make sure he didn't get away with it.
36:55And because I firmly believe that that night,
36:57the thing that was pulling me into that house was her.
37:00You know?
37:00Like, don't let that son of a bitch get away.
37:04She probably said,
37:05well, the one person I know that can,
37:07that'll handle this is probably Dan.
37:09You know?
37:09Francis Wolke pleads not guilty
37:25by reasons of insanity.
37:30To claim that you are not guilty
37:32by reason of insanity,
37:34one needs to either not realize
37:36that what they're doing is going to cause death
37:39to another person
37:40or not realize
37:42that what they're doing
37:43is being done to another person.
37:48The prosecution argued that
37:50Francis Wolke knew what he was doing
37:52because it took him several attempts
37:53to actually kill Kathy Anderson.
37:59One of the other arguments
38:01against the insanity plea from the prosecution
38:03was that in the two weeks following his arrest,
38:07he wasn't seen speaking to himself
38:09or living in any delusions.
38:16Ultimately, the jury did not agree
38:18that Francis Wolke was insane
38:19due to the evidence,
38:21and they came back and convicted him
38:24of first-degree murder
38:25with a penalty of 26 to life.
38:27I don't think we're ever going to completely know
38:32what led Francis down the dark path
38:36he ultimately went down.
38:38When he first got to the Silicon Valley,
38:40he seemed to be making a very good faith effort
38:43to do this computer program,
38:44and things began to really unravel for him.
38:48It's impossible to know
38:49if that unraveling
38:50was because of pre-existing mental illness
38:54and the fact that he was sort of failing in life.
38:57Certainly all of those things
38:58may have been a factor.
39:01Some of the tropes
39:02that led him down that path
39:04are to me related somewhat
39:05to the tech pro culture
39:06in a sense that he felt
39:08he needed to join the 1%.
39:09It's kind of an obsession
39:11with some of the tech people.
39:15Francis Wolke had dreams
39:16like everybody else in Silicon Valley,
39:18and I think failing in Silicon Valley
39:20led him down a very dark path,
39:22and unfortunately it led
39:24to the brutal murder of Kathy Anderson.
39:30Kathy was an amazing person.
39:32She would just go out of her way
39:34to do things for people.
39:37We had great fun together.
39:40I miss her.
39:41She was, yeah, an amazing lady.
39:44Yeah.
39:44I loved her very much
39:50and do still her influence on me.
39:54Still with me every day,
39:55and I'm a better person
39:56for having known her,
39:59and she helped me
40:01be the father that I am to my daughter.
40:04My daughter wouldn't be where she is today
40:06without Kathy's help.
40:07And that's, you know,
40:12that carries her legacy on.
40:14And her success
40:15is Kathy's success.
40:16Silicon Valley is a place
40:37where people's dreams
40:38can turn into realities,
40:40but it can also be a place
40:42where those dreams
40:43can turn into nightmares.
40:44What is the address
40:46we need to come out to?
40:47He has a gun or an ice.
40:49I think there were several people
40:51that he wasn't paying.
40:53You talk about money, greed,
40:55those are big motivations for murder.
40:57The DNA of Silicon Valley
40:59is risk-taking.
41:00You have people
41:01that are willing to go all in,
41:04and sometimes they get involved
41:05in things that they shouldn't.
41:07This case had all those elements.
41:09Google, prostitute, murder, yacht.
41:12Every morning I would wake up
41:14to a good morning text from him,
41:16and that morning I had nothing.
41:19Success in the tech world
41:20can change an individual.
41:22Some people think
41:23that they can get away
41:24with anything,
41:25even murder.
41:26Oh, my God, he shot somebody!
41:28Oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God!
41:29Oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh
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