'When Did You Meet Her?': Deputy AG Blanche Asks Ghislaine Maxwell About Meeting Hillary Clinton

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In a newly released set of interviews with the Department of Justice, Jeffrey Epstein accomplice, Ghislaine Maxwell spoke about the first time she met former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

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00:00Did you ever meet Secretary Clinton, Hillary Clinton?

00:04Yes.

00:05When did you meet her?

00:15I want to say, again please don't hold me to it, but I want to say that it was on a flight that came from the island,

00:28not from the island, from the Nantucket or Martha's Vineyard back to New York is what I think.

00:35I might be wrong.

00:36Okay, so an East Coast island like Nantucket or something like this.

00:41Yes, the ex-president never came to the island.

00:45And is that the only time that you met Hillary Clinton?

00:49No, I went to the house in Chappaqua a few times.

00:54And why did you go to the house?

00:55I was invited.

00:57Just to see President Clinton or Hillary Clinton or both?

01:02Yeah.

01:04I mean, as a friend.

01:06Not for...

01:07There was no...

01:08I don't remember any reason.

01:10Either it was somehow I communicated that was in coming, driving back past Chappaqua if they were home and stopping.

01:17I know it sounds a little flippant, but it could have been even something as...

01:22And do you know whether Mr. Epstein had knew or had any sort of business dealings or associated with Hillary Clinton?

01:31I would say no.

01:33Did you ever see them together?

01:35No.

01:36Did...

01:37Do you know whether Mr. Epstein ever did any business transactions with the Clintons?

01:43I would...

01:44Well...

01:45I'm not sure I can...

01:48I'm not sure how to quite...

01:50I don't know the answer to that strictly.

01:52Because I was part of the beginning process of the Clinton Global Initiative.

02:01And that was something that I helped with.

02:06And that was me.

02:08And Epstein may have helped me help them.

02:11And in that context, he may well have involved himself, but only in the context of something that I was trying to do.

02:22So, when you say involved himself, meaning like give money to the Clinton Global Initiative or something like this?

02:30Well, so, there's that.

02:32I think he did do that.

02:33And that, I believe, the money that he may have given could have been independent of me.

02:38But, I think it's just easier if I just tell you how it happened.

02:42Rather than...

02:43Because otherwise it sounds all odd and funky.

02:47I went to Davos with the former president.

02:51And I...

02:54Have you been to Davos?

02:59In what?

03:00Have you been to Davos?

03:01I have not.

03:02Okay, well you know it's a...

03:03You know what it is, right?

03:04Okay, so...

03:06And I was...

03:07I thought that the former president should have his own Davos because it would be...

03:16And they had...

03:17It turned out that they had been thinking about it anyway.

03:20And so we were talking about it.

03:22And, you know, it's a very heavy lift to get something like that to go.

03:27And I was friendly with one of the people who had...

03:33I don't know if he was at the beginning of Davos or...

03:37But he was running Davos.

03:38I was just...

03:39I don't know how to describe his actual role at Davos.

03:42And I had conversations with him about what did he think.

03:45You know, just because I was having dinner with him about...

03:49If Clinton could get something like that to go, what was his thoughts?

03:52And he was very, very enthusiastic.

03:54I mean, he was like, that's just an incredible idea.

03:56So I put them together.

03:58Who's...

03:59What's that person's name?

04:00Do you remember?

04:01I knew you were going to ask me.

04:02Okay.

04:03I can...

04:04I can...

04:05I just...

04:06You said...

04:07I didn't know if you knew his...

04:08If you remember his name.

04:09I do, but I just...

04:10Can't remember his name.

04:11Okay.

04:12If it comes to me, it may come to me tomorrow, but eventually these things, like, surface.

04:16Perfect.

04:17Like, in the middle of the night, I was scribbling names that I couldn't remember from yesterday.

04:20Um...

04:21Okay.

04:22But his name will come to me.

04:23And if not, we can find it.

04:24Okay.

04:25So...

04:26So you...

04:27When the...

04:28Just still staying on your relationship with...

04:31Sorry.

04:32The...

04:33Your association with the Clintons, um...

04:36You were part of the ramp-up or the start-up of the Clinton Global Initiative...

04:41Helping them and supporting that effort.

04:43I would...

04:44I...

04:45I would say very important...

04:46Very central to that, yes.

04:48And...

04:49Mr. Epstein...

04:54Was he part of the work around that, or just in support of you?

05:00He supported me to help them, but then I think he may have tried to use that to insert

05:07himself in some way.

05:08That would not have surprised me at all.

05:10And I know that he...

05:12I've...

05:13Was annoying.

05:14In some reason I could catch him on the phone and he wouldn't always agree with what

05:17I wanted to do.

05:18And I was like, it was not your idea.

05:20I don't really care what you think.

05:21But that didn't go over so well.

05:25Um...

05:26And...

05:27I just want to say, it wasn't my idea for his CGO.

05:30I didn't...

05:31It wasn't.

05:32Say it again.

05:33I've had that idea before.

05:34I just helped bring key personnel to him.

05:36You're saying the idea of President Clinton kind of having his own Davos...

05:40I'm not...

05:41I'm not owning...

05:42I didn't...

05:43That's not...

05:44Understood.

05:45No, I'm just...

05:46I didn't see it.

05:47No, I understand.

05:48Okay.

05:49Um...

05:50Did you go to Davos with President Clinton more than once or just once?

05:54I can't remember.

05:56Once for sure.

05:57And I think maybe twice.

05:58But I don't remember.

05:59Um...

06:00Did...

06:02And you're not...

06:04I think you said...

06:05You don't...

06:06You're not aware of President Clinton ever going to the island.

06:10He never went.

06:11He absolutely never went.

06:12And I can be sure of that.

06:13Because there's no way he would have gone...

06:15I don't believe there's any way that he would have gone to the island had I not been there.

06:19Because I don't believe he had an independent friendship, if you will, with Epstein.

06:24Did he speak?

06:25Did he go on the...

06:26Yes.

06:27That's very different from going to spend time on...

06:30And plus, the story as told is so patently absurd that I flew him in the helicopter.

06:37I am a helicopter pilot.

06:38That is true.

06:39But the notion of me flying an ex-president on a machine would terrify me.

06:44I would never even take that responsibility.

06:47Can you imagine?

06:48Yeah, no.

06:49I'm not...

06:50No.

06:51Did...

06:52Did you ever go with President Clinton to any of Epstein...

06:56Mr. Epstein...

06:57Mr. Epstein's...

06:58Um...

06:59Properties?

07:00So, like...

07:01New Mexico, Palm Beach, or in New York?

07:03I...

07:04I...

07:05I...

07:06I don't have memory of him in any of those places.

07:09When you were in London with President Clinton, did you...

07:13Did you ever go to your...

07:15To your flat with him?

07:17I don't...

07:18I don't think he did.

07:19I don't...

07:20I don't think so.

07:21Because this is like a...

07:22Fucking...

07:23He wouldn't even be able to carry all his secret service with him.

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