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Disaster Transbian episode 94
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00:00There's a lot of crazy people around, especially me, but if you don't have crazy people, you don't have normal people.
00:30This is a city of famous sights and famous sounds and beautiful people.
00:45It's very out of the usual. It's very out of the norm to be able to do that for a certain amount of time and length, a period of time and get away with it, especially the outrageousness of it, the kind of murders that he did.
00:59When I went to go visit him, I asked him, you know, I said, how many other girls visit you? I want to know.
01:12Billy Idol's the truth, man.
01:15Los Angeles police thought that the murder of a young woman last March was an isolated act of violence, but since then, they've come to believe it was connected to a wide-ranging series of assaults by a killer who's become known as the Night Stalker.
01:27A killer who apparently struck again during the weekend. We have a report from Nadine Brugge.
01:34Police today continue to search for any clues in the near-fatal shooting of 29-year-old William Carnes and the rape of his girlfriend.
01:41They're apparently the latest victims of the Night Stalker, thought to be responsible now for 34 brutal attacks, 14 of them fatal.
01:48These serial killings, once confined to the near Los Angeles area, are now spread over 500 miles from San Francisco to Orange County.
01:56Just as before, the assailant entered a house in a quiet middle-class neighborhood in the pre-dawn hours on Sunday through an unlocked window and attacked the couple while they slept.
02:05Neighbors are terrified.
02:06I just sleep with my hand on my, right by my bed and a sawed-off shotgun, which I always have.
02:12I see. Why is that?
02:14Because if anybody comes in my house, they're not leaving.
02:16On August 30th, 1985, Ramirez took a bus to Tucson, Arizona to visit his brother, unaware that he had become the lead story in every television news program across California.
02:29On the bus ride back, he had a premonition.
02:35There was a thunderstorm, and Ritchie was thinking that Jesus was mad at him and angry and showing his anger.
02:42Ramirez feared that his guardian angel, Lucifer, had deserted him.
02:48After failing to meet his brother due to his not being home, he returned to Los Angeles early on the morning of August 31st.
02:55He walked past police officers who were staking out the bus terminal in hopes of catching the killer should he attempt to flee on an outbound bus and into a convenience store in East Los Angeles.
03:09After noticing a group of elderly Hispanic women fearfully identifying him as El Matador, Ramirez saw his face on the front page of the newspaper La Opinion with a headline calling him Invesor Nocturno and fled the store in a panic.
03:27After running across the Santa Ana freeway, he attempted to carjack and unlocked Ford Mustang, but was pulled out by angry residents Faustino Pinon and Jose Burgoyne.
03:42Ramirez ran across the street and attempted to take car keys from Angelina de la Torre.
03:49Her husband, Manuel de la Torre, witnessed the attempt and struck Ramirez over the head with a fence post in the pursuit.
03:56A group of over 10 residents, including Jose Burgoyne's sons, formed and chased Ramirez down Hubbard Street in Boyle Heights.
04:07They soon restrained Ramirez and relentlessly beat him.
04:12At around 8 a.m., police were called over a disturbance in the area with few other details.
04:18Police quickly arrived on Hubbard Street and took a severely beaten Ramirez into custody.
04:26The police tried to keep a stiffened up on p.m.
04:35Police.
04:36What have you been arrested for?
04:37Have you ever been arrested before?
04:39Danny, where's your car?
04:40I've never been arrested before in LA.
04:43I've never been arrested in LA.
04:44I've never been arrested.
04:46инеar 2 a.m.
04:48How long ago?
04:56What's your name?
05:00What's your name?
05:04I love it.
05:23The local neighbors saw what was going on, and it's, hey, come on, let's go help the neighbor.
05:28He's trying to drag a lady out of her car.
05:30Her husband sees this happening, hears her scream, grabs a piece of steel pipe, runs over and lays him one across the head.
05:39As Ramirez lay beaten and exhausted on the sidewalk, the police, ironically, came to his rescue.
05:48I've been seen by my gun all this time, and now I feel like I could put it away.
05:53I felt relieved, you know, and I felt happy when I seen him, and I said, it's about time.
05:59Ramirez was taken to a nearby police station.
06:02Fingerprints taken at the station matched those from the stolen Toyota seen driving away from the Carnes murder.
06:11As word of the arrest spread through the city, crowds lined the streets.
06:16Haunted for months by fear, everybody, it seemed, wanted a look at the Night Stalker.
06:23For the citizens on Hubbard Street, the Night Stalker's capture was cause for celebration.
06:28He was responsible for a series of homicide.
06:36As law enforcement announced their arrest, word spread nationwide that the Night Stalker had finally been caught.
06:44On the night Stalker!
07:00Ladies and gentlemen, in a few moments, several men will appear on the stage.
07:24Each man will be assigned a number and will be referred to only by number.
07:28Number two, step to the red square in the center of the line.
07:32Number two, in a loud, clear voice, repeat this statement.
07:35Shut up, bitch.
07:36Shut up, bitch.
07:38Number two, turn to your right and face the door.
07:40Jury selection for Ramirez's trial began on July 22nd, 1988.
08:01At his first court appearance, he raised a hand with a pentagram drawn on it and yelled,
08:08Hail Satan!
08:09Hail Satan!
08:12He preyed on both women and men, young and old.
08:15He slipped through windows, slit throats, raped, tortured, and killed.
08:20What he did to me has been the total destruction of my life and my girlfriend's life.
08:24Former computer engineer Bill Carnes, one of Ramirez's many victims.
08:29One night, Carnes and his girlfriend were assaulted in their bed.
08:33The woman was raped and Bill Carnes shot three times in the head.
08:37Bill Carnes ended up in a group home with a bullet still lodged in his brain.
08:42He stole my memory.
08:44He took my girlfriend.
08:46He took my career.
08:47On August 3rd, 1988, the Los Angeles Times reported that some jail employees overheard Ramirez
08:55planning to shoot the prosecutor with a gun, which he intended to have smuggled into the courtroom.
09:03Consequently, a metal detector was installed outside and intensive searches were conducted
09:09on people entering.
09:10On August 14th, the trial was interrupted because one of the jurors, Phyllis Singletary, did not
09:18arrive at the court.
09:20Later that day, she was found shot to death in her apartment.
09:25The jury was terrified, wondering if Ramirez had somehow directed this event from inside his
09:30prison cell and whether or not he could reach other jurors.
09:35It was ultimately determined that Ramirez was not responsible for Singletary's death as
09:40she was shot and killed by her boyfriend, who later committed suicide with the same weapon
09:46in a hotel.
09:48The alternate juror who replaced Singletary was too frightened to return to her home.
09:54On September 20th, 1989, Ramirez was convicted of all 43 charges, 13 counts of murder, 5 attempted
10:02murders, 11 sexual assaults, and 14 burglaries.
10:06During the penalty phase of the trial on November 7th, 1989, he was sentenced to death in California's
10:14gas chamber.
10:16He stated to reporters after the death sentences,
10:19Big deal.
10:20Death always went with the territory.
10:22See you in Disneyland.
10:23And it was here, in a cramped room in a San Francisco jail, that I interviewed the man known as the Night Stalker.
10:31A memorable face-off, with me asking questions, and Ramirez, for the most part, reading from a script.
10:39Did you kill 13 people?
10:42It would be improper for me to comment on my LA convictions and on my pending case here in San Francisco.
10:50Why?
10:51Because of my appeals.
10:53Are you appealing these because you say you're innocent?
10:57You didn't kill 13 people?
11:00That is correct.
11:01You didn't kill 13 people?
11:03Again, it would be improper for me to comment in any regard to that question.
11:08Serial killers do on a small scale what governments do on a large one.
11:12They are a product of the times, and these are bloodthirsty times.
11:18Even psychopaths have emotions if you dig deep enough.
11:22But then again, maybe they don't.
11:24Do you have emotions, Richard?
11:27No comment.
11:28Tell me what kind of emotions you got going through you right now.
11:32I'll tell you what.
11:33I gave up on love and happiness a long time ago.
11:37Why?
11:40I don't care to explain that.
11:43Let the quote stand for itself.
11:46People in this day and age are brainwashed and programmed like a computer at being nothing more than puppets.
11:52This nation, this country is founded in violence.
11:56Violent delights tend to have violent ends.
11:58Madness is something rare in individuals, but in groups, people, and ages, it is a rule.
12:05Killing is killing, whether done for duty, profit, or fun.
12:10Men murdered themselves into this democracy.
12:13You're good at reading your script, Richard, but you're not much at answering my direct questions.
12:18The trial cost $1.8 million, which, at the time, made it the most expensive murder trial in the history of California
12:27until it was surpassed by the O.J. Simpson case in 1994.
12:36While awaiting trial, Ramirez reportedly met actor Sean Penn.
12:41Penn, who was jailed for 33 days in 1987 for reckless driving and assault of an extra on Colors 1988,
12:51claimed to receive a letter from Ramirez as a fellow inmate, to which he wrote back,
12:58telling Ramirez he had no sympathy and hoped he died in the gas chamber.
13:03By the time of the trial, Ramirez had fans who were writing him letters and paying him visits.
13:10He'd walk in and he'd scan the audience looking for good-looking women.
13:14He'd pick one out.
13:17That's the one he was going to look at.
13:19He'd go, face the judge.
13:21Now, when it's time to recess or him to get up, everybody had to remain in their seats.
13:24And he'd get up and just smile and stare and give her winks, whatever he wanted to do.
13:29And he'd walk out.
13:31Want me to tell him about the attorneys?
13:33Yeah.
13:33Okay.
13:34So, one day, sitting there at the council table, testimony's going on, the bailiff says,
13:41hey, the phone's for you.
13:43So, I get up and I go sit next to the bailiff.
13:46And I'm talking on the phone and finish my call, hang up, and now they're going to recess.
13:52Richard gets up.
13:54I had noted there were two attorneys.
13:57They were dressed to the tent.
13:58They were very nice-looking ladies.
14:01Reminded me so much of my wife.
14:04And, very attractive.
14:07And, so, they walked in and they sat on the aisle.
14:13So, there's nothing between.
14:14The aisle's right here.
14:16And Richard's going to walk in front of them.
14:18And he had noted when they walked in, they smiled.
14:22As he's walking on the way out, the one on the aisle side looked at him.
14:26He smiled.
14:26And she opened up her legs.
14:30She did that and blew him a kiss.
14:32And I'm saying, holy Jesus.
14:35And I went back and I told my partner, I said, hey, I want to get arrested.
14:38Is this what goes along with the territory?
14:40I mean, there were all kinds of women that would go in there to look at him.
14:44And some very ugly, some very attractive.
14:46But these were, you'd think they were smart, you know, business attorneys.
14:51And maybe she was just joking with them.
14:52I don't know.
14:53And there were things in there.
14:55You know, he wore them.
14:56And God bless her.
14:57Sophie Dickman was a spry lady in her late 60s when this happened.
15:03And she had worked in the psychiatric ward over at USC Medical Center and worked in the emergency room.
15:08She'd seen all kinds of stuff.
15:10And she testified because he actually sexually assaulted her and had anal penetration.
15:18And she said he was quite a handsome young man.
15:22And she was afraid that because he couldn't maintain an erection that he might be embarrassed and kill her because he couldn't maintain it out of embarrassment.
15:31But he didn't.
15:33And when she said in courtroom that he was quite a handsome young man, Richard turned around.
15:38He was embarrassed then.
15:39And he looks at me and he says, that wasn't me.
15:42And I'm sorry.
15:42He was a sick individual.
15:45Sick man.
15:46At any point in time, did he display any remorse or any sorrow?
15:52He displayed remorse over one of the victims.
15:55It was a 16-year-old girl at the time.
15:57And he asked us to give her a message.
15:59And he was sorry.
16:00And we did.
16:02That's the only one.
16:03It's, I don't know how these people think, you know.
16:09People have asked me, was he crazy?
16:10Was he this?
16:11Was he, I don't know.
16:12I'm not a doctor.
16:13He asked me.
16:14He said, what do you think I'm like this?
16:15I said, I don't know, Rich.
16:17You know, if I knew the answer to that, I'd be a doctor making a lot more money than I have as a cop.
16:21My job is to gather the facts, make the presentation, and get you convicted.
16:25That's it.
16:27But he was sorry for one victim and one victim only.
16:33Yet, on the other hand, we talked openly after conviction.
16:39About a 10-year-old girl that he kidnapped.
16:42And all he was concerned about in that case was the only thing he felt sorry for was the little puppy who got out.
16:51Didn't know if the dog made it out all right or, you know, whatever happened to the little dog.
16:54He felt sorry with the dog.
16:56Didn't say anything about the girl or anybody else.
16:59So here he's sorry about a dog, but he doesn't care about what he just did.
17:02Beginning in 1985, Doreen Leoy wrote Ramirez 75 letters during his incarceration.
17:11In 1988, he proposed to Leoy and on October 3, 1966, they were married in California's San Quentin State Prison.
17:21For many years before Ramirez's death, Leoy stated that she would commit suicide when Ramirez was executed.
17:31By the time of his death in 2013, Ramirez was engaged to a 23-year-old writer.
17:38On August 7, 2006, Ramirez's first round of state appeals ended unsuccessfully when the California Supreme Court upheld his convictions and death sentence.
17:51On September 7, 2006, the California Supreme Court denied his request for a hearing.
17:59Ramirez had additional appeals pending until the time of his death.
18:03Ramirez died of complications, secondary to B-cell lymphoma, at Marin General Hospital in Greenbrae, California, on June 7, 2013.
18:15He had also been affected by, quote, chronic substance abuse and chronic hepatitis C viral infection, unquote.
18:23His body was not claimed, so it was cremated.
18:26I think most humans have in them the capacity to commit murder.
18:31It is not because...
18:32No, we don't, Richard.
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