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Hour Tua! We listen to what Joe Burrow has to say about offense. Leroy goes off the wall on the Cincinnati Bengals organization to the point where he drops his coffee... Yes, Aaron Rodgers was brought up. The quibble progresses as we discuss why preseason is important... Why this would benefit Tua Tagovailoa avoiding injuries.
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00:00Yeah, all right, Leroy, your thoughts last night.
00:01Monday Night Football, Joe Boudreau.
00:05And I'm mad at the sorry Bengals defense for one reason.
00:11Y'all make me look stupid out here.
00:14I'm sitting here trying to tell people how preseason goes,
00:16and I'm telling them, you know how hard it is to run the football in preseason
00:21because you're just running basic rudimentary plays.
00:23They playing basic rudimentary defense.
00:26You ain't game planning.
00:27And so sometimes it's hard to run the football.
00:30Right?
00:31They gave up 100-plus yards in the first quarter, rushing the football.
00:37That's crazy.
00:38How would you – I don't care who you have at quarterback.
00:43You can't win like that.
00:45And, yeah, the Bengals won, but guess what?
00:48If that was a regular season game, they would have ran for 300.
00:50And you posed no resistance whatsoever.
00:54And then your poor quarterback got dishragged.
01:00He really did.
01:02He got dishragged.
01:04To like –
01:05Troy Aikman said, oh, my.
01:08I haven't figured that out either for him, huh?
01:11Like, wow.
01:12So, guess what?
01:16And here's what's going to happen.
01:19And it sucks because they got Joe Burrow.
01:24So, they're going to think, you know what?
01:27We got to get him a new coach.
01:29We got to get him this or we got to get him that, right?
01:33When the fact of the matter is, is you got to be able to identify why you lose in football games.
01:39It ain't got nothing to do with the coach and offense.
01:42You want to hear Joe Burrow on what he had to say about the offense?
01:45I mean, he's always – he's toes the company line.
01:48He really does.
01:49He toes the company line.
01:50Some good, some bad.
01:50Some plays I'd like back, obviously.
01:54Mistakes that we can't make in the regular season that we made tonight, but that's why it's the preseason.
01:59Hey, Joe!
02:00Why don't you just say it?
02:02We all thinking it.
02:03What's he supposed to say?
02:04We can't stop a damn nosebleed.
02:07You run for 100 yards in an NFL game in one quarter?
02:11That's embarrassing.
02:13That's what he should have said.
02:15Minus one.
02:16He ain't going nowhere.
02:19For deception.
02:20He ain't going nowhere.
02:22Somebody needs to identify the problem and, like, come on, play it.
02:28That's embarrassing.
02:29Well, I think the thing that's funny is there's no need to have him in these spots, but they're, like, they're so gung-ho.
02:35Now Zach Taylor is pot committed on this play in the preseason thing, which is a little weird because he didn't play Jamar Chase that much yesterday.
02:42Here's Higgins.
02:43Yeah, it was very stupid.
02:44Here's why.
02:46Here's why.
02:47There's a reason behind it.
02:49The reason the sound.
02:51And that is, for the last two years, we've got off to terrible starts.
02:56So we want to start faster, so we're going to play more in the preseason.
02:59They just yelled at Shamar Stewart for accidentally touching Joe Boudreau in a practice.
03:04Yeah.
03:05Like, he is.
03:06Wait, wait, wait.
03:08Hey, you know what happens in a game?
03:12They don't let go.
03:13Right.
03:14And he got his guy killed.
03:16Wait.
03:17He was like.
03:18I saw his arm over here.
03:20He threw the football over there, and his leg was way over there, twisted up.
03:24Don't get up and say that's a flag.
03:26I'd be fine if Tua didn't play the rest of the preseason.
03:28Okay, that was just about that.
03:29I'd be fine with it.
03:30No.
03:30I didn't want him to play the first game.
03:31It can't be both ways.
03:35I'm not saying it has to be both ways.
03:38But here's what I am saying.
03:40I am saying is that when you see what the problems are, you better do something to fix
03:47those problems, otherwise you're going to deal.
03:50Like, for some reason, they feel comfortable about their offensive line.
03:54Meanwhile, I'm watching it, and I'm like, uh-oh, right?
04:00How do they feel about their defense?
04:03Like, but here's the difference with Tua, okay?
04:07And here's the crux, and here's the things that you have to deal with with the Dolphins
04:14that you don't have to deal with with the other teams.
04:17The one thing that you have been trying to, your point of emphasis this whole preseason
04:22is being physical, is doing things with purpose, is doing things a certain way, all right?
04:32You need to see that.
04:36You need to continue to see that.
04:38Come on.
04:38No, you can't just crank that up.
04:41You know who I don't need to see?
04:43Zach Wilson or Quinn Ewers starting for the Dolphins.
04:45That's who I don't need to see.
04:47I understand all that.
04:48That's what I don't need to see.
04:49I understand all that, but let me ask.
04:52How about this?
04:53Let's think of it this way.
04:56What if I'm giving Tyreek and Waddle some run this week?
05:02Yeah.
05:02What if they're not, though?
05:06Yeah, I mean.
05:07You know, it's not.
05:08I get here.
05:09The only problem I have with all of this is, you think because a guy doesn't play, you're
05:19protecting him from injury.
05:21That's right.
05:22You're not.
05:22It doesn't.
05:23It doesn't.
05:23It doesn't.
05:23It doesn't.
05:23Like, it's not.
05:27I think sometimes when you don't prepare your body for these things, you're actually putting
05:34your body in more harm's way when the season starts.
05:37The only person who put, and I hear you on this, and I'm not saying that you're wrong
05:40because I know that you feel very strongly about this, but can we agree that two is a
05:45special case that he has, he has propensity for head injuries and, and nobody.
05:52And I, Leroy, I mean, nobody puts themselves in harm's way more than him.
05:58Right.
05:59And, and it's, and I don't want that being blown on a preseason game.
06:03Oh, okay.
06:04But when you crank it up after not doing it, okay, two has got to learn how to protect
06:14himself and do certain things in a game, right?
06:20And, and, and you, you just, you have to go through it.
06:24Yeah.
06:24Well, he had it.
06:24And, and, and so he had it nailed.
06:26I don't know why he went away from the formula that was working.
06:28That was jujitsu.
06:31You can laugh all you want.
06:32It was, it was working.
06:33I look like I'm laughing.
06:34No, it worked.
06:35Now you're just trying to find a way.
06:36I'm not trying to mess with it.
06:37Hold on.
06:38See, let me just, let me, let me, let me just go with science.
06:41Okay.
06:42No jujitsu misses games.
06:45Does jujitsu 17 games.
06:47No, that's science.
06:49How much jujitsu do you think he was doing?
06:51He ain't a black belt.
06:52It wasn't, it was about the falling.
06:54That's what he had to learn.
06:55Falling, controlling his body.
06:57These are things, these are muscles that you don't work on.
06:59And by the way, they specified these drills for him.
07:02They brought in this sensei, this coach to specify for these situations.
07:09Jujitsu to a safe led the league in passing.
07:12He stopped it because he got cocky, which he did.
07:15And look what happened.
07:17All right.
07:17I mean, I get you, but I here, let me, how can I say this without offending?
07:30I mean, it's not even, it's not even offending, but the reality of it, the reality of it.
07:38Okay.
07:38Kansas City, they could do what you're talking about.
07:45Philly, they can do what you're talking about.
07:49Baltimore.
07:49So the teams that have gotten far.
07:51You ain't there yet.
07:52You still trying to get to where they are and you think that not playing football for three
07:58or four weeks is going to get you there?
08:01No, it's not.
08:04Like, so, and you know what I hate?
08:06Vlad, this is what's going to piss me off to know it.
08:10I will fight it.
08:12What are you doing?
08:14I will fight everybody in Miami if I hear this.
08:17What's that?
08:21Y'all want to protect Tua.
08:22Y'all don't want him to play in the preseason.
08:24Then if they get out to a slow start and lose a couple of games, you're going to be like,
08:28no!
08:30I will not.
08:30What the hell you think is happening if you ain't practice for a month?
08:33He is practicing.
08:34He's not playing fake games.
08:37You still need to be in that environment.
08:39You still need to get ready for a season.
08:42He does it this age.
08:43Okay.
08:44This many years, he needs that.
08:46Go ahead.
08:46But I'm telling you, me and you are going to fight.
08:50What?
08:50If they look crummy or crappy playing against Indy because they haven't played football in
08:56three weeks.
08:56Let me tell you.
08:57I'm telling you.
08:57Nothing that happens on Saturday.
09:00I'm telling you.
09:01Leroy, nothing that happens on Saturday is going to have anything to do with what happens
09:04with you.
09:04You know what it is?
09:04Nothing.
09:05It's one more opportunity to prepare yourself for the season.
09:11You need that.
09:12You're also saying that I had a problem with him not being in the lab this offseason.
09:15Did you just get coffee?
09:16What do you mean?
09:17Who, me?
09:17Yeah.
09:18Nah.
09:19Jeff, he can't get hit in the lab by a 300-pounder.
09:23He can't learn how to protect himself.
09:25Exactly.
09:26No, he could.
09:26If he went to jiu-jitsu class, he would.
09:28He could.
09:29If he went to jiu-jitsu, he put a key on.
09:31He would.
09:32Okay.
09:32Okay.
09:33We saw the formula.
09:34It worked.
09:35Does that jiu-jitsu have number 95 for the Browns on it?
09:38That?
09:38Learning how to roll.
09:4017 games.
09:41Yeah, jiu-jitsu and I'm beating up 95 from the cleats.
09:43Doesn't matter.
09:44He went right back, ass over tea kettle, safe.
09:47Knows how to tuck his head correctly.
09:49Then he got all thin and rich.
09:51And all of a sudden, I know what I'm doing.
09:53I know what I'm doing.
09:55You want a pudgy tour?
09:57Hell yes!
09:57Or at least a tour that's svelte, who knows how to roll backwards again.
10:03But somebody decided to hang up their white belt.
10:06So you want a thick tour.
10:07Okay.
10:10And Leroy wants them to practice.
10:13Yeah, he thinks that playing against the Jaguars is going to get him ready for the season.
10:18Who are they playing against?
10:20Is he relevant?
10:20It is!
10:22Because they're going to have to leave.
10:22It's the process of playing a game.
10:25Worming up to it.
10:26No, Leroy's upset.
10:27No, Leroy's mentioned this last week.
10:29The fact that there's two weeks before the last preseason game and the first game.
10:35You're not going to get any.
10:35Do you not understand, right, that if these guys don't actually play in the preseason,
10:43it will be seven months since they play football.
10:47Do you understand what that is like?
10:50Longer for him because he missed the last few weeks.
10:52Right!
10:54You want to know why?
10:55Because he can't protect himself.
10:57Yo, the logic behind getting ready for a sport that is inherently very physical, right?
11:09And to get ready for that, you think the solution is let's not hit or touch anything until the regular season.
11:18And then, and then, and then, and then, complain when your team looks like crap in the beginning of the season.
11:28Well, they may look like crap regardless.
11:31But that's not the point.
11:33The point is you still got to prepare for it.
11:35So let me get this straight.
11:36Yes.
11:36If they come back and they start the season one and three.
11:39Yep.
11:40But they didn't play this week.
11:42You're going to come back and say it's because they didn't play against the Jaguars?
11:45It's how they look.
11:46If they look sluggish, if they have a whole bunch of false starts, if they, the routes are not, if they look like they're playing sloppy football, yes, I will say that.
11:56But they're not going to play Devon A-chan.
11:58He's got a calf injury.
11:59That's different!
12:00I'm telling you, just, just hear me out.
12:02A-chan got some runs.
12:03A-chan, very little run.
12:07Tyreek got no run?
12:08No run.
12:08Okay.
12:09No run.
12:09Jalen Waddell got no run?
12:11You know what that's asking for?
12:12Hmm?
12:13That's, I, one of them two, you're going to hear, ooh, hammy or oblique.
12:17Maybe.
12:18Maybe.
12:19Because they ain't played, for example.
12:19That could also just be 30.
12:21That could be 31.
12:21No.
12:22No, it's not.
12:24Even more so, you got to get your body ready for this.
12:26Wrong.
12:28He needs, what do I do?
12:29No, I'm not saying you don't know.
12:31I'm not saying you don't know.
12:32I'm not saying, don't do that.
12:34I'm not doing that.
12:34I could just put on a pass week one and go do goal line.
12:39That was the funniest comment.
12:40What do I know?
12:42I'm not questioning his knowledge.
12:44I'm questioning this specific player, this specific case.
12:47I think all other 89 players should be out there.
12:51The quarterback who has got the most durability issues in the league.
12:57Yes, but.
12:58No.
12:58Here.
12:59I've seen this happening in all sports.
13:04Okay.
13:05Except one.
13:07Hockey.
13:08Oh.
13:08Doesn't happen in hockey.
13:10But.
13:11In baseball.
13:13They're doing it with pitchers.
13:15And for some reason now.
13:17All the protecting they're doing the pitching.
13:20Them guys are breaking down more than pitchers have ever broken down before.
13:24To the point where Tommy John is a rite of passage.
13:26It's because they made the kids spin the ball too much.
13:29Okay.
13:30Whatever reason is.
13:32That you're doing something your body is not prepared to do.
13:36All right.
13:36When you think about basketball.
13:39Basketball is crazy.
13:40Yeah.
13:40But all these.
13:41And guess what?
13:42How many Achilles and knees and non-contact injuries have you seen trying to protect them?
13:49Yep.
13:50Maintenance program.
13:50Now, guess what?
13:53The court hasn't changed.
13:55The game has gotten less physical.
13:58How come the guys in the A's and Ice played every game?
14:04They wasn't going sitting down on back-to-backs.
14:07You're right.
14:08John Crowder was on commercial flights.
14:09So, I don't.
14:11So, while we're sitting here in this little soft, you know, non-physical world that everybody lives.
14:19You don't do that.
14:23He has serious injuries.
14:25I understand.
14:27It's football.
14:27He doesn't know how to protect himself.
14:30That's how you learn.
14:31You know how you learn?
14:32You get knocked the belief out a couple times.
14:34You're like, whoa, I got to watch myself.
14:36He didn't learn the first three times.
14:38Okay, then.
14:40That's so.
14:41But, again, you're asking players.
14:48You're asking players who never, ever, ever did anything as far as physicality to now be more physical
15:00and hit less.
15:04I understand.
15:05But you're not putting him on.
15:06He's not.
15:06You're not tush-pushing Tua.
15:08I know that.
15:09But he's still got.
15:10Listen.
15:12I just.
15:13I.
15:14What I don't understand is all of the complaining about football early in the year.
15:21And how sloppy that it's been.
15:25Leroy.
15:26You lucky he wasn't full.
15:30Oh, you did.
15:31Oh, fumble.
15:33Fumble.
15:34Now we're good.
15:35It's all good.
15:35Fumble.
15:36Not too bad.
15:36It went the right direction, at least.
15:38Look what you did.
15:41I didn't do anything.
15:42Leroy's fumble.
15:43I don't want to play against the Jaguars.
15:44First time Leroy's fumbled in 23 years.
15:47Hey, that's only because I.
15:48I don't want to have.
15:49That's only because I didn't have a camp.
15:51I don't want to play again.
15:52So, like, I don't.
16:01I don't understand.
16:03You can't have it both ways.
16:05Okay.
16:06I don't want it both ways.
16:07If you don't want none of your players to play because you want to protect them for the regular season,
16:11then you can't complain when they look sloppy in the beginning of the year.
16:17Well, that's that's that's the basic.
16:20I got you.
16:20Oh, okay.
16:21Conversely.
16:22Guess what?
16:25The Steelers are doing the same damn thing.
16:29They go.
16:29Coddle Aaron Rodgers.
16:31You can't coddle a 40 year old.
16:32You need to get that.
16:33Get him looped up.
16:35The old don't like preseason.
16:36Right.
16:37But guess what?
16:40He.
16:42Has not been in a preseason in about five years.
16:45That's true.
16:46And every year that he has not had a preseason, he started off sluggish.
16:50How about getting a couple more reps?
16:52Is that true?
16:53Yeah.
16:53Well, he did play preseason the first season with the Jets and then four plays into the regular season.
16:58Oh, too much work?
16:59Well, cap on.
17:00There had to be a season.
17:00He didn't play in the preseason.
17:01They went like 13 and three.
17:03There's been probably a lot of preseason.
17:04There's a lot of preseason that he hasn't played in.
17:06My whole second conversation about Aaron Rodgers is that he's a choke artist.
17:11No, I'm just saying like everybody says Aaron's going to save us.
17:15He couldn't save the teams when he had better team.
17:17Was this entire take a long, a scenic route to rip Aaron Rodgers because you hate Aaron Rodgers?
17:22Oh, my God.
17:22That's what he came through?
17:24You went through a 17-minute diatribe just to rip Aaron Rodgers?
17:28You yelled out a window.
17:29I'm not ripping Aaron Rodgers.
17:30Yes.
17:30He actually spelled that because he was thinking of Aaron Rodgers.
17:32That's what it was.
17:33It was a whole AFC North rip-a-thon.
17:37A little Dunkin' Donuts with a side of ayahuasca.
17:39This started about the Bengals and Joe Burrow.
17:43Oh, it was terrible.
17:44He somehow ended up with Tua and then got to Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh.
17:49Because we start talking about whether those guys are going to play.
17:51I can't believe Joe Flacco is starting week one for you guys.
17:53That.
17:54That's crazy.
17:55Joe Flacco.
17:56And then you hate the old.
17:57You know what that is?
17:57Wait, wait, wait.
17:58You know what that is?
17:59You know who Joe Flacco is?
18:01Timo Aaron Rodgers.
18:02They playing in preseason?
18:03Joe Boudreau.
18:04Is Joe Flacco playing in preseason?
18:07No, he hasn't played at all.
18:08He ain't played at all.
18:08Like, it's a hundred.
18:09That's why.
18:10He's got to throw a pass.
18:11Even in Kansas.
18:11So, aren't you mad at the Bronx for not having Joe Flacco play?
18:14Joe Flacco's 40.
18:15And I never thought he was going to be.
18:16So, it's Aaron Rodgers.
18:18No, but.
18:19Listen.
18:19No, no.
18:20Let me tell you something.
18:21Uh-huh.
18:22What I'm expecting from Joe Flacco.
18:24Is not the same what you expect from Aaron Rodgers?
18:26From what they were expecting from Aaron Rodgers.
18:28So, that's fair.
18:29So, then.
18:29Here's what's going to happen.
18:29So, he does know Aaron Rodgers.
18:30I'm going to tell you what.
18:31I'm going to give you the Joe Flacco story.
18:33Chapter 12.
18:35Because he's done 11 other times.
18:37He's going to come in.
18:38He's going to be hot.
18:39Jameis Winston hot.
18:40Go for 330.
18:42350.
18:43Three.
18:43And then.
18:44It's going to hit him.
18:46And he's going to be.
18:48Two for 12.
18:49With two picks.
18:50And one pick six.
18:51And it's just going to.
18:52And then you're going to have to bench him.
18:54He does it every year.
18:56And she's right.
18:57It's the cycle of Joe Flacco.
18:58And the only thing that saved him the first time in Cleveland.
19:02Was they brought him in after Thanksgiving.
19:05Woo!
19:05Was he hot?
19:07He was.
19:07He was hot.
19:08Remember him on that flight?
19:09Yes.
19:10He was hot.
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