00:00to answer there's no definition of bullying there's so many sections and cross other laws
00:06because the word bullying is not specified in the law so but to be fair i'm quite uh relieved
00:12because we did amend uh section 507 c and bcd we managed to do that in the last session so i have
00:22to thank the MPs also the government especially the ketua majlis the prime minister for allowing
00:28that amendment and we also quite fortunate that we managed to amend the suakam act to allow one child
00:34commissioner in sabah in sarawak so it was quite timely but the point here is that uh to be fair
00:39to community they have their own guidelines uh but again i think suakam just came up with issue
00:45from the child commissioner's office there are concerns when perpetrators and victims are children
00:50the child act still apply so this is something i think the cabinet has to discuss whether
00:55should we be looking into another processes when it comes to children bullying whether do we need a
01:01tribunal system should we look at a different set of laws that can apply more for rehabilitation than
01:07just punishment so these are things that we have to talk i can't answer on behalf of the cabinet or the
01:13relevant ministry but for the minister in charge of law some countries are going to different direction
01:18because in all this is prevention is better than cure but to be fair uh in in most systems of
01:24bullying schools always have happened in situation of hostels and that's what they say but i'm not
01:28really sure i don't have the data but generally in some countries they look at a different approach to
01:33bullying when it comes to certain higher institution or schools but again for me for the law that we are
01:39using for the penal code is a general law because we tie it up with the sexual harassment and all that but
01:44maybe when it comes to children or certain students maybe we should use a tribunal system
01:48like the sexual harassment act that we do for a tribunal then we can look into the punishment to be
01:53more of yes punitive but more for rehabilitation than punitive that should be the last measure
01:58so that is where the for us for bayou we will have to study and bring to cabinet for some
02:03consideration okay next looking talking about that like akta anti-bully it can be
02:09perimbangkan ke sebab macam gap last week minta hantar akta anti-bully benda ni itulah saya kata
02:15definasi bully dalam kandung kesiksaan penal code takde dia banyak gigit undang-undang lain jadi sebab
02:23kalau kita specify dia takde specification definasi dia ni dalam keadaan yang sangat fleksibel sebab bila kita
02:30baca kita baca bersama benda-benda lain yang dia lakukan sebab dia takkan bully sahaja bully dia
02:34buat ada kesan sampingan kadang dalam akta kita menyebabkan kematian kadang bully kita online bully
02:41kadang bully dia sexual harassment bully kadang bully dia tak naik pangkat itu bawa industrial court so
02:46dia macam-macam bawa akta buruh tapi nak specific itu kita kena kaji tapi bagi saya kemungkinan yang
02:53bagi saya dah harakan bayu untuk untuk kaji sama ada di peringkat sekolah dan pendidikan tinggi IPTA IPTS sama ada
03:00hukuman dia tak setimpal dengan kandung kesiksaan mungkin kita ada tribunal dulu di mana
03:06rehabilitation ditekan dulu sebelum dikenakan hukuman punitive dalam final code bila dah jatuh
03:16hukuman dia memang 10 tahun 10 tahun awak faham tak tapi bila dia kanak-kanak equation dia kena lain
03:22itu contohnya mungkin ada masalah lain saya tak tahulah tapi memang kementerian pendidikan dia guideline dia
03:27memang very complete dia ajar buat ni buat ni memang dia ada tapi itu sahaja guideline mungkin
03:31dia tak gigit sangatlah sebab it's just a guideline tapi terpulang kepada sekolah lah kementerian
03:36pendidikan sama ada dia nak undang-undang khas tapi bagi saya mungkin bagi bayu kita kaji
03:41dulu lah sama ada perlu ke tidak khas bila terpakai untuk sekolah dan institusi IPTA IPTS
03:48sebab dia orang masih dalam proses belajar kan
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