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Dolphins look MUCH better in 2nd joint practice with Lions | are fans rooting for the team to lose?
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6 weeks ago
Updates from the Dolphins 2nd joint practice in Detroit. Omar Kelly tweets he has never seen a fan base outright hoping their team loses... is there any truth to what he's saying?
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Let me give you, because we have a lot to talk about today.
00:02
Mike Cugno is going to join us from Detroit.
00:05
You had the joint practice number two.
00:09
Seems like the Dolphins may have won this one.
00:11
I saw some pots and pans out on Glades Road.
00:14
I asked some people, well, what's going on?
00:17
And they said, good Dolphins practice.
00:20
Yeah.
00:21
I joined in.
00:21
I always keep pots and pans in my car just for instance like that.
00:26
Mike Cugno is going to join us from Detroit.
00:29
Clay Ferraro is going to join us today as well.
00:31
Crowder is traveling.
00:33
He's in Indianapolis.
00:34
You know, he was with us yesterday from Detroit.
00:37
They are now at the Indianapolis training camp.
00:40
I'm actually watching Indianapolis on the SportsCenter right now.
00:43
They're in Indy.
00:45
He's going to try to join us.
00:47
He doesn't know if he has the acceptable space to do so because he may just have to set up
00:54
a computer outside on a practice field.
00:56
But we will keep our eyes peeled for him.
00:59
I want to know what that looks like where Crowder says, yeah, I got to set up out here.
01:03
And, you know, I'm assuming finding a stand.
01:06
Yeah.
01:06
I'm assuming it's him in the bleachers, like just in the bleachers on, you know, his, he's
01:11
got his little, uh, uh, little snowball microphone and then on an iPad.
01:15
I mean, that's pretty much how I envisioned it.
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I'll give you from today's joint practice from Chris Perkins in the Sun Sentinel stock up
01:45
and stock down for your Miami Dolphins.
01:48
He's got stock up D Eskridge as D Eskridge had an outstanding touchdown reception over
01:55
cornerback DJ Reed that excited the entire Dolphins sideline Eskridge who's earning a spot
02:02
on the 53 man roster has provided excitement as a wide receiver and kickoff and punt returner
02:08
last week at Chicago, he had a 41 yard kickoff return and a 16 yard punt return.
02:13
So stock up according to the Sun Sentinel D Eskridge stock down back up, right tackle
02:20
Larry Borum.
02:21
He was going against, uh, Aiden Hutchinson.
02:24
That ain't an easy matchup.
02:25
It is not a perk rights.
02:27
He was going against Aiden Hutchinson, one of the league's best, but he surrendered a sack
02:31
and numerous pressures Thursday.
02:33
The concern is Borum who remains a backup to injured starting right tackle.
02:38
Austin Jackson didn't show much improvement from Wednesday.
02:42
The Dolphins must hope Borum's lack of adjustment.
02:45
Isn't a common thread among backup offensive linemen.
02:50
That's tough matchup Aiden Hutchinson, and he's got something to prove this season.
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He was out last season.
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So I'm not, uh, I'm not going to count Borum out just yet.
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03:24
Uh, day two of joint practices.
03:26
Have you read any of this, um, this like deep dive into Mike McDaniel and the Miami Dolphins
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and the athletic?
03:33
A lot of people were posting about it.
03:35
They're tweeting about it.
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Jeff Howe got to sit down with McDaniel and, uh, he did a piece on him.
03:41
But one of the things that, um, kind of struck me in the first couple paragraphs here, McDaniel
03:48
said five players on the 2024 roster incurred half of the team's internal fines for distractions
03:57
incurred in what half incurred incurred, incurred, incurred, incurred, almost got it on the third
04:05
try.
04:05
I think I got it on the first try.
04:07
You had incurred on the first one.
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You had incurred.
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That's a, that's a ridiculous word to use.
04:14
Nobody uses that in 2025.
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Come on, come on, Jeff, uh, half of the old word, like groceries, of course.
04:24
So let's just say the Dolphins were intentional about the players they wanted to retain this
04:28
season, along with the kinds of players they wanted to add to the roster.
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But what about Tyree kill?
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And he goes into Tyree kill.
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Um, but couldn't get anything for him.
04:39
That is interesting.
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Five players on the roster last year.
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So I see a lot of people tweeting about that, but that doesn't strike me as that odd because
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you know, no, no, not at all, but talking, but people seem to be like, wow, only five.
04:53
Like if you're talking about internal fines, not talking about league fines for wearing
04:58
your socks wrong or getting lippy with an official or whatever, if you're talking about
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internal fines, you're only going to have a handful of guys who aren't following the
05:08
rules.
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Yeah.
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So that didn't strike me as odd.
05:11
And we can probably pick out who the five are.
05:14
I mean, right.
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I really thought about it.
05:15
So that's all I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm highlighting here.
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I don't, I didn't find it odd as in, Oh, only five guys.
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No, no, no.
05:21
It makes all sense in the world.
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It's the guys you kind of expected behind the scenes to be a pain in the ass.
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Tyree kill, who we all know is a part of that list.
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I bet my life savings on it and Jalen and Jalen Ramsey, who doesn't want to be here and
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kind of took a shot at Mike McDaniel the other day on the pivot.
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So I, I, I just thought it was obvious.
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Like of those five, those two are a hundred percent lions share.
05:49
Yeah.
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Right.
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Right.
05:52
Well, if, uh, if you think there's any chance the dolphins are still going to trade Tyree kill
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could be Javon as well.
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You know, Javon friend of ours, I mean, they never really got serious with him.
06:02
He may be one of those guys that they earmarked for departure said, you know what?
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He's not buying into our program.
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He's not, you know, possible.
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He doesn't strike me as show up late.
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I don't know, but he doesn't strike me as show up either.
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I'm just saying like, there were guys who they got rid of or guys who asked out and Javon
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Holland seemingly wanted to stay here.
06:27
They never really seemed like they had any interest in giving him anything of that was
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come close to what the giants were offering.
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But, but I think what it was, because remember even entering last year, he wanted to get paid
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and there was like no conversation with the dolphins.
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It was basically, we'll talk to you next year, which I think really pissed him off.
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It rubbed him the wrong way.
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I think he put himself, he played himself into a category of guys.
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We're going to get paid X amount at least.
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And the dolphins didn't value him as somebody who they needed to pay that much money to
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at that position.
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They just didn't, which is why I think he was always, and he, he understood that he was
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on the outs here.
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Like he knew, Hey, in free agency, I'm going to make this much money.
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So you got to pay me this much money.
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And the dolphins are like, nah, we're not going to pay you that much money.
07:21
Sorry.
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We don't value at that much.
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So that relationship, I think last off season just deteriorated.
07:28
It's, it's seen usually, you know, if they're making a run at keeping somebody, even if it
07:35
seems like you're not going to be able to keep them.
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And it was pretty clear.
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They weren't making any kind of run at keeping them.
07:43
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, I'll, I'll keep sharing some tidbits from this article as I, uh, I read it during
07:51
the break, but I don't know.
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I just found that, you know, pretty straightforward there.
07:55
Five guys had half of the fines inside the building.
07:58
I think we all kind of have an idea of who a couple of those dudes were.
08:01
Yeah, no doubt.
08:02
Tyreek didn't practice today, by the way, but as you mentioned, Jalen Waddle was back out
08:07
on the practice field and Hawk, I am changing my entire mentality on this team after today's
08:13
practice yesterday, I tempered expectations today.
08:16
I am raising expectations.
08:18
I've got them in the Superbowl, Superbowl, Superbowl.
08:21
Yeah.
08:22
Against the truth.
08:23
Omar Kelly tweeted out today.
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I've covered the dolphins for 18 years, not even in their tank for two a season.
08:30
Have I seen this fan base actively rooting against their team?
08:34
Like this year, 2025 has a shot to be good, but not if you listen to Miami's own fan base.
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And he points out, keep in mind, I've seen 20 more practices than you.
08:46
I'm down with Omar.
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I don't know what's going on here.
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I know maybe because people want to be rid of Chris Greer and Mike McDaniel, and maybe
08:55
even to, uh, that they want the bottom to drop out because they know that's the way
09:02
to ensure that those guys won't be coming back.
09:05
I don't feel that way, but I'm in agreement with Omar.
09:08
It feels to me like a lot of dolphins nation is just kind of almost celebrating a terrible
09:15
practice like yesterday and gloating and preening around doing the, I told you so.
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And how come no one else in dolphins management sees what I'm seeing coming?
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And I'm like, Hey man, this team is nowhere near as bad as you think they are.
09:32
They might actually be good.
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Here's the thing though.
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And I, I, I'm not rooting for the dolphins to lose.
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Obviously I'm, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, somebody who you could call detractor of this team,
09:44
I guess, but Hawk, the owner put out a statement after last year that status quo would not be
09:54
good enough.
09:55
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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He put out a statement.
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He had to come out because of how upset people were and he said status quo would not be good
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enough.
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The goal remains the same to go compete.
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And I think we, we all are understanding that this, this roster, this team right now
10:11
is, is just status quo, which is what upsets me.
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I'm not rooting for them to lose.
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And I don't think they're terrible.
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I think they're a, you know, nine and eight football team.
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I think they're fine, but that's not, that's not what the owner told us was going to be
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acceptable, which is why I don't, I don't think so.
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I think, I mean, two separate things, obviously no one wants a status quo season because it
10:32
was a disappointing season.
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Everybody wants improvement and there has to be a trip to the playoffs.
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And really there has to be a playoff victory.
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I mean, let's not kid ourselves, but to say that status quo is not acceptable is a lot different
10:48
than almost rooting for your team's demise, which is what Omar is suggesting fans are doing.
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And I do find, because even yesterday I'm getting tweets and texts going, Hawk, how much are the
11:00
dolphins paying you?
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Like you're on their payroll because it's ridiculous what you're saying.
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And, uh, and I say this every year, I'm not getting paid anything by the dolphins.
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Not only am I not getting paid anything by the dolphins, we don't have any relationship with the
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dolphins whatsoever.
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When I say none, none, I would not know who to call to get a guest on the air.
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That's how little a relationship, by the way, bad on them.
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I'm not, I'm not, I'm like, that's not on me.
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That's on them.
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Um, I wouldn't know where to start with getting dolphins on the show.
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Joe Rose obviously has access because he's one of their broadcasters, but it's not on
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our station.
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And I, I, I usually go to a, a one preseason game.
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I'm not going to Jacksonville game.
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I don't even know who to ask for, for tickets.
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So I don't get any money or any, anything from the dolphins.
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I happen to like to, uh, I happen to think 2023 was more representative of this team than
12:03
last season.
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That's it.
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That's what I'm banking on.
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I could be wrong.
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I'm not telling you I'm not wrong, but I'm not a mouthpiece for the dolphins, but I'm an
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optimist anyway.
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You know, people like, oh, you do this every season.
12:15
Yeah.
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How wants to go into a season going like I did that with the Marlins and I've been pleasantly
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surprised.
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I was not high on the Marlins going into the season.
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They surprised me and that's great.
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But I don't default to, oh, poor us.
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This team sucks.
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We only have a quarterback that almost, uh, was the MVP two seasons ago and threw for
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4,000 yards and a receiver that almost hit 2,000 yards receiving it.
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Like, yeah, no, I think it's pretty decent team.
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Yeah.
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I think they're decent.
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I think you're right, but I'm, I don't want decent.
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That's where you and I differ.
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I don't want decent.
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I want great.
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I understand that, but you can't get to great from not great in one fell swoop.
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It just doesn't happen.
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But at what point are we like expecting great that that's, you know, I don't want to get
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into the whole thing again, but Hawk, I mean, my entire life, this team is, this team has
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been this, but you, you can't go from missing the playoffs to winning the Superbowl.
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It just doesn't happen.
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Yeah.
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But I'm not asking to go win the Superbowl.
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I'm just asking to be one of the teams in the mix to go win the Superbowl.
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Well, I think they've got the talent.
13:24
No, we'll see.
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