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00:00AMANDA TAYLOR
00:14My name is Amanda Taylor,
00:16and I am the daughter of a killer.
00:19When my mother died,
00:20I found these newspaper clippings among her things
00:24of the unsolved Cape Rock murders
00:26of Judith Donnelly and Susan Mead.
00:29I believe that she thinks that my father murdered these girls, too.
00:33My book will expose the truth.
00:36Beth, what are you doing here?
00:38Police are at our house.
00:39We don't know what's happening.
00:40Can you please come?
00:41Of course, of course.
00:42You hear me? Fucking go!
00:44You did it! I know you fucking did it!
00:46I don't know why she stopped thinking her father was the killer
00:50and started imagining it was me.
00:53They are going to charge you with this.
00:56Oh, where are you going?
01:00I'm ringing on behalf of Principal Thorne.
01:02A sensitive issue has come up.
01:04I'll probably go to my own grave,
01:06still not knowing who killed my sister.
01:09Who's your boyfriend?
01:10Your own sink.
01:11The club?
01:16How was your mother?
01:17She's good.
01:18She says hello.
01:19I took that photo.
01:20I took another one just before that
01:22while she was still on a video call
01:23and I saw it.
01:24Who the fuck is John?
01:26Who the fuck is John?
01:56Uh, hi, it's Amanda Taylor.
01:57Look, after our abrupt exchange, I'm hoping that if I explain a few more things about the book,
02:11then you'll reconsider talking with me.
02:13Just, just so you know, I use an encrypted platform.
02:17So our conversation, it would just be completely private.
02:24Well, every Tom, Dick and Harry, it was called John back then.
02:49Why are you looking for a John?
02:51Is he a possible suspect?
02:54No, not without a confirmed surname and no comment.
02:58No comment?
03:00Beth, we must remember that you are a witness for the prosecution.
03:05And I'll fill you in after your testimony, okay?
03:08You're a real bore, you know that?
03:14Much as it pains me to be less than scintillating,
03:17I'm not going to compromise the case by giving away the game plan.
03:20Thanks.
03:21Thanks.
03:22OK.
03:23Mhm.
03:24You're welcome.
03:25I've got a quiz.
03:26You're welcome.
03:27It's a good idea and you're welcome.
03:28Yeah.
03:29I've got another quiz.
03:30You're welcome.
03:31Yeah.
03:32I'm excited to be here.
03:33You're welcome.
03:34You're welcome.
03:35I've got to go.
03:36I'm excited to be here on my team.
03:41Oh, my God.
04:11I don't know.
04:41Excuse me.
04:48Sorry.
04:50Oh my God.
04:51One second.
04:52It's okay.
04:53Sorry.
04:54Oh good.
04:54One second.
05:00There you go.
05:02Oh I'm so sorry.
05:03Oh jeez.
05:05Hold on.
05:06Hold on.
05:07Here we go.
05:08Look um.
05:09Oh no.
05:10If you want I can carry some of this for you.
05:13Yeah you're going to help me carry this 23 kilometers to my house.
05:21Oh Christ.
05:24Okay.
05:25Um.
05:25Yeah.
05:27Do you mind?
05:29No no no.
05:29Sorry.
05:30It's okay.
05:31I'm struggling here.
05:32Let me get this one in.
05:33Okay.
05:34I do just live around the corner.
05:36I was just testing your Good Samaritan boundaries.
05:40Do you know what?
05:41Leave it I think.
05:41You think?
05:42Well no no no no.
05:42You got it now.
05:45I mean 23 kilometers it's like just outside of my Good Samaritan ranch.
05:50Fair.
05:50I mean everyone's got a limit.
05:52I'm Andrew by the way.
05:54Leah.
05:56So yeah we're working with this huge Japanese artist.
05:59Oh wow.
05:59Yeah.
05:59So you're uh you're an exhibitionist.
06:02Ha ha ha.
06:03Um look thank you for rescuing my fucking hell.
06:09Fucking hell.
06:10Meant to fucking leave it on the street.
06:13And it was meant to come assembled.
06:14Oh my god.
06:16The fuck.
06:16Um.
06:18Great.
06:19Uh should I bring it in or?
06:23Um.
06:25Oh my goodness.
06:27Wow.
06:27What is it a hold up house?
06:31No it's a flergen.
06:33Ah.
06:33Yeah.
06:34Right.
06:35You just need a flergen right?
06:36Come on in.
06:37Yeah?
06:38Um I'd say here.
06:41Oh wow.
06:42So you don't live in a garage.
06:44This is good.
06:44In a garage no?
06:46Yeah.
06:47In a garage.
06:47No well it's not even that.
06:48It's my house.
06:49It's nice right?
06:50I um I bought it before my accident actually and I love it so much I had it adapted.
06:55Anyway thank you.
06:57It's um.
06:57Thank you for doing that.
06:58My pleasure.
06:58And thank you for rescuing my groceries.
07:00No all good.
07:00That was so much heavier than I thought it was going to be when I offered.
07:03Nice to meet you.
07:04You too.
07:09Hey um.
07:13If you want.
07:14I.
07:15This is nothing sus but I.
07:17I mean I can come back after court and help you put this.
07:20After what?
07:22After court.
07:23But I am.
07:24I'm not in court.
07:25I'm.
07:26Uh.
07:27I'm on a.
07:28I'm on a.
07:29I'm on a jury.
07:30Oh okay.
07:31Yeah.
07:31Yeah.
07:31I'm a jury person.
07:35Seriously.
07:35I'm.
07:36I'm happy to help and it's it's literally on my way through.
07:41Seriously though I can get someone to help me.
07:43It's fine.
07:44I can get an odd job at.
07:45Seriously.
07:45You're turning down a professional musician for like a like a carpenter or something.
07:51I mean are you nuts?
07:53I'm going to give you my number and have a think and if you think it's a good idea then
07:58you can give me a text.
08:00Um.
08:00Or not.
08:03I mean sure.
08:04Yeah?
08:05Okay.
08:07Who said that?
08:08Would you like to repeat what you just said?
08:10So the crusaders should have done a better job and killed all the terrorists.
08:13Crusaders should have done a better job and killed all the terrorists.
08:17Okay.
08:17But from the Muslims perspective it was the Christians who were the terrorists.
08:22No?
08:23What's fascinating about history is that you can change narratives based on your perspective.
08:29I'll give you an example.
08:30For example in 10.
08:32Okay.
08:33I'm uh.
08:34I'm sorry.
08:37I didn't realize it was being filmed.
08:40It's going to cause so much flack.
08:41You asked them to write their crusade essays from the point of view of an Islamic child.
08:47No, no, no, no.
08:48I gave them, I gave them the option.
08:50I'm a history teacher.
08:52I'm trying to do my job.
08:53It's what I do.
08:54What?
08:54Sorry.
08:56You've been given your requisite official warnings and I'm getting pressure from above.
09:01It's out of my hands now.
09:05You're not serious.
09:06You're not serious.
09:11You're serious.
09:14Marilyn.
09:17You know me.
09:19I'm also taking into consideration your absence from school events on Friday afternoon.
09:25No, my timetable was deliberately set out to include Friday prayers.
09:29Marilyn, you cannot be serious.
09:30Your timetable was also meant to include sports carnivals, special assemblies, excursions,
09:36anything else that falls on a Friday afternoon.
09:39Okay.
09:39Look, I don't want to be unreasonable.
09:41I don't.
09:42And we both have a worthy outcome to aspire to.
09:47She's what?
09:49Salma.
09:51If you resign, she can stay on her scholarship until she graduates.
09:58It'd be a shame to rob her of access to elite instruments and tutors.
10:03And I will write you a wonderful reference.
10:15You serious?
10:16Yes.
10:17Hey, bro.
10:33Hey, it's Sean, right?
10:34Yeah, yeah, good to see you.
10:35I looked you up.
10:36What's that?
10:37I looked you up.
10:38Oh, you, uh...
10:39You mean my old band?
10:40Puppies!
10:41Yeah.
10:42Yeah, good job.
10:47That jingle must have paid for your house by now.
10:48Uh, absolutely not.
10:49There's no need to feel nervous.
10:50We've gone over everything a dozen times.
10:51Are you sure you know everything?
10:52What do you mean?
10:53I think there might be a new witness.
10:54Some guy named John.
10:55John who?
10:56You need to talk to Luella.
10:57Best mentioned are Jonathan Myers.
10:58Find out where he is, and we need to talk to him.
10:59Oh, look, look.
11:00There's a crime writer.
11:01Huh.
11:02Oh, look, look.
11:03There's a crime writer.
11:04Huh.
11:05Oh, look, look.
11:06There's a crime writer.
11:07Huh.
11:08Oh, look.
11:09Oh, look.
11:10Oh, look.
11:11Oh, look.
11:12Oh, look.
11:13Oh, look.
11:14Oh, look.
11:15Oh, look.
11:16Oh, look.
11:17Oh, look.
11:18Oh, look.
11:19Oh, look.
11:22It's ten minutes past the cutoff time.
11:24Where is she?
11:25Gretel, do you know?
11:27Probably been out partying all night.
11:29She seems a type.
11:30Type?
11:31You mean young and free to do what she likes without other people's judgement?
11:34I'm not judging.
11:35I'm just saying.
11:36Well, me, I'd do anything to have a night off the kids.
11:38Go dancing.
11:39Rage.
11:40Good luck to her.
11:41Mmm.
11:42I once danced at Studio 54 back in the 70s.
11:46Wowzers.
11:47Hey, do you watch the cricket?
11:48What?
11:49What country do you follow in the cricket?
11:51I don't, man, but I used to play basketball.
11:55You play basketball?
11:56No?
11:57No.
11:58She's here, everybody.
11:59She's here.
12:00Put your things down.
12:01We're going straight into court.
12:02Oh, okay.
12:03Yes, ma'am.
12:04I shouldn't have to remind anybody that punctuality isn't optional.
12:08But on the penta.
12:09Shh.
12:10Shh.
12:11Are you okay?
12:12Hey.
12:13Okay.
12:14Come on.
12:15I didn't love this.
12:16You...
12:17No, no, no, no.
12:18It's a mistake.
12:19Alan.
12:20Sit down.
12:21Trust me.
12:22Having a sympathetic witness this early in the trial is really difficult.
12:27good for us, even if it is a prosecution witness.
12:28And it lets the jury sit down.
12:29It lets the jury sit down.
12:30It lets the jury sit down.
12:31It's a mistake.
12:32Oh, no, no, no.
12:33It's a mistake.
12:34Alan.
12:35Sit down.
12:36Trust me.
12:37Having a sympathetic witness this early in the trial is really very good for us, even
12:51if it is a prosecution witness.
12:54And it lets the jury see you through her eyes.
12:59Do you see what I mean?
13:01I don't know.
13:04I think it's asking a lot of her.
13:07Beth?
13:09No, Beth will be fine.
13:12Just one thing.
13:14Do not catch her eye when she's in the box.
13:18Because the jury might see that as collusion.
13:21She's later in the day anyway.
13:24Amanda's ex-boyfriend is up first.
13:27How would you describe Amanda as a person?
13:33She was, uh, very strong-minded.
13:36Very, very direct.
13:40She was, uh...
13:42She was, uh...
13:43She...
13:44Sorry.
13:45Excuse me.
13:46Quiet in court.
13:47Can you take your time, Mr...
13:48Mr. Fraser?
13:49Amanda was, uh...
13:51She was, uh...
13:52She...
13:53Sorry.
13:55Excuse me.
13:56Quiet in court.
13:57Please continue.
13:58She was just good.
14:00Can you please tell the court why you're released?
14:01I'm sorry.
14:02I'm sorry.
14:03Amanda was, uh...
14:04She was, uh...
14:05She...
14:06Sorry.
14:07Excuse me.
14:10Quiet in court.
14:12Please continue.
14:15She was just good.
14:20Can you please tell the court why your relationship ended?
14:26Uh...
14:27The main reason was that, uh...
14:29I was worried about her.
14:31I felt like she was playing with fire with this book.
14:34She was obsessed with it.
14:35And that's not an exaggeration.
14:37Honestly, I couldn't find a time to talk to her about anything else other than the book.
14:41So we...
14:43We...
14:44We broke up.
14:50Bullshit.
14:51Did Amanda call you on the night of April 4th?
14:56Two days before her death?
14:59She did.
15:02She said that she was scared.
15:05And she wanted me to come down to Cape Rock and stay the night.
15:09And on that phone call, what specifically did she say about Mr. Chaplin?
15:17She said this is the guy who killed those girls.
15:29Objection.
15:30PSA.
15:31Upheld.
15:37No further questions, Your Honor.
15:47Mr. Fraser, you told the courts that you and Ms. Taylor were still close.
15:54Is that accurate?
15:56Yeah.
15:57There was never actually a clean break between us.
16:00We were on and off for a bit, but we just stopped having sex.
16:04But you were still close, is that right?
16:07Yes.
16:08On the night she called you on April the 4th, she asked you to go down and stay with her for protection, didn't she?
16:16Did you go?
16:19No.
16:20But you just testified to the court that she told you on the phone that my client had committed two murders, that she was afraid, and you still didn't go down and stay with her, is that right?
16:33No, I didn't.
16:36That was very cavalier of you, wasn't it, Mr. Fraser?
16:41Letting her take her chances with a murderer on the loose.
16:44No, it's actually more...
16:45No, that's right.
16:46It wasn't cavalier, was it?
16:47Because you were not in any way worried that my client was going to murder anyone, were you?
16:53Well, it's because there had been a break-in at our place a few months earlier, and she swore that it had to do with the book, but later it turned out not to be the case.
17:02So, yeah, I didn't take it as seriously as I should have.
17:07Because you didn't believe she was in any danger from my client, right?
17:12Yeah, that's correct.
17:15Could the witness please be given Exhibit 5? This is Ms. Taylor's statement to police on April the 4th.
17:23Mr. Fraser, would you be good enough to read the highlighted section of Amanda's complaint?
17:29Mr. Chaplin verbally threatened me and chased my car out of the driveway, ripping off my side mirror with his hands in a rage.
17:37Is that what Amanda told you on the phone that evening?
17:40Yes, yes, that's exactly what she told me.
17:41Good, good. Whose car was she driving on that day?
17:45It was our car.
17:46Was the car covered by your insurance?
17:49Yeah.
17:52Can we play Exhibit 9? This is a call to the insurance company made by the witness on April the 5th.
18:02Is your ex-girlfriend listed as a driver on the policy?
18:05Yes, her name is Amanda Taylor.
18:07And how did the accident occur?
18:09She was reversing and then she knocked the mirror off on the side of the car.
18:14Was that your voice on the recording, Mr. Fraser?
18:19Yeah.
18:20So, um, were you lying to the insurance company or were you lying to us about what Amanda told you on the phone?
18:32I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't lying.
18:34No, no, no. One of those is a lie. Which one is it, Mr. Fraser?
18:37I guess I just, I just thought I, I thought Amanda was lying to me about the way that it happened.
18:44Right, and not just to you. You still believe that Amanda was lying to the police about my client's so-called violence.
18:53Yeah.
18:54Hmm, yes.
18:56Now, during the phone call to you on April the 4th, did you believe that Amanda was exaggerating the danger to her in order to increase her chances of you going down to stay with her?
19:10Yeah, that crossed my mind.
19:15And when she was later killed, did that make you feel very guilty, Mr. Fraser?
19:24I wish I had gone, yeah.
19:28So, did you try to assuage that guilt by making Mr. Chaplin a scapegoat?
19:35Objection. Overruled.
19:42I will take that as a yes. No more questions, Your Honor.
19:48He said he never claimed insurance. I've got all my notes.
19:50Well, you should have called him yourself, Charlie boy.
19:52Hey, I didn't see that comment.
19:57Yeah, we asked you to tell us everything, Mr. Fraser, and that means everything.
20:01Yeah, thanks to your, uh, your insurance claim you've made yourself and, and worse still, Amanda, look like liars.
20:10Fuck.
20:12I'm sorry.
20:14I keep saying the boyfriend did it. Why is no one talking about that?
20:18Maybe because he's not on trial.
20:20Should be on trial for being a life coach in LA.
20:22He's got an alibi.
20:24Corporate boot camp.
20:26No one would have noticed if he wasn't at the session.
20:29I mean, have they even asked if anyone went to it?
20:32Maybe you flew a plane from Esperance to Cape Rock for lunch?
20:36Sounds likely.
20:38I mean, I could fly a plane. I clocked a thousand hours on Sim Flight.
20:41Oh, I was once in a plane flown by John Travolta. I sat in his cockpit.
20:46Sorry, you sat in his what now?
20:50Can we please stop wasting time speculating about people who aren't actually accused?
20:56Oh, lighten up, Sharon.
20:58The boyfriend, the ex-boyfriend, he was under oath.
21:02People lie. Everyone lies.
21:05We don't know who did it.
21:07Okay, all we know is that she ducked too deep and unleashed a bell rug.
21:11A what?
21:12It's a Tolkien reference.
21:14The dwarves ducked too deep.
21:17Haven't seen it.
21:19Haven't read it.
21:21Come on, sickling.
21:26Pair of giggling gerties, those two.
21:29You were so wasted. It was hilarious.
21:34Yeah, well, I don't want any of it.
21:35Yeah, well, you drank a shit ton, babe.
21:38Fine.
21:40Yeah, I remember this bit.
21:42Well, that was early.
21:43It was so weird. I've never been blackout before.
21:45Sorry, no.
21:46Yes.
21:47But have you drunk 13 bazillion wet pussies in one night before?
21:50Aw.
21:55Oh, my God!
21:57Yeah.
21:59You kept flashing your titties.
22:03But, I mean, if I had those titties, I would be flashing them as well.
22:07Wait, sorry, um...
22:10Did something, um...
22:13With them, with the three of us, did...
22:15Did we all...
22:17Do you feel like you fucked?
22:20Last night.
22:22No.
22:23Okay.
22:25Because you didn't.
22:28You were so messed up that we thought it was best to take you back to my place and we put you on the couch.
22:33But you kept crawling into bed with us.
22:39Which was adorable.
22:42Hey?
22:43This is gonna make you feel less green.
22:50Go like this.
23:02Come on.
23:03There's gonna be so many cute boys there.
23:04Come on.
23:16There's gonna be so many cute boys there.
23:34There's gonna be so many cute boys there.
23:58Mom!
24:00Mom!
24:02Hi.
24:05Hi.
24:06Oh, here we go.
24:09We're ready.
24:10Let's do this.
24:32We'll talk to you later.
24:34Let's do the next one.
24:36We'll be back with you.
24:38We'll be back with you later today.
24:40We'll be back with you later.
24:42You're welcome.
24:43We'll be back with you later.
24:45Uh, can we please bring up Exhibit 11?
25:10Mrs Chaplin, can you please tell us where this photograph of your husband was taken?
25:17It's at the River Weir in Cape Rock.
25:22Exhibit 12.
25:24This is a photograph of the place where Amanda Taylor's laptop was found in water.
25:30Mrs Chaplin, can you please identify this location?
25:35Looks like the River Weir.
25:37In other words, your husband's preferred fishing spot.
25:43Well, he fishes in a lot of places.
25:51Mrs Chaplin, when did you and your husband first meet Amanda Taylor?
25:57Uh, Amanda came to our house four years ago.
26:00My book will prove that my father killed those girls in 1968.
26:05And, um, well, I'm talking to everyone with that specific angle in mind.
26:11So, you're not trying to prove your father's innocence?
26:16Absolutely not.
26:17Oh.
26:18That's an interesting way of, uh, of taking it on.
26:23Uh, not really.
26:25Look, um, I don't mean to be rude, but, uh, those murders had a long-term effect on this town.
26:33And quite frankly, people are tired of talking about it.
26:37I'm tired of talking about justice.
26:41No, he, he means it's upsetting.
26:43Really?
26:44I understand.
26:46But I, I intend to talk to everyone who was here that September.
26:50Locals, holidaymakers, everyone.
26:53I've tried the detective who reopened the case in 1978.
26:57Uh, Bob.
26:58Bob Stevenson.
26:59Yes, Bob.
27:00But he, uh, well, he's retired and he won't speak to me.
27:03So, I'm doing it all myself.
27:06And when did you next see Amanda Taylor?
27:13Uh, it was April the 4th, 2023.
27:18Uh, but it was very different this time.
27:22She did it!
27:25I know you fucking did it!
27:36She accused my husband of the, of the murders.
27:49Mrs. Chaplin, after that altercation, the victim had visible bruising on her arm and her back.
27:56But you say, that your husband was not angry.
28:01He was, he was confused.
28:03He was upset.
28:05But, but not angry.
28:07No.
28:08Did you see or hear from Ms. Taylor again after that?
28:13Yes, I did.
28:14On, uh, the morning of April 6th.
28:17The day she was murdered.
28:21Yes.
28:23She, she called me.
28:25I would just like the chance to speak with you.
28:27Okay.
28:28Uh, Amanda.
28:29I'm going to be frank.
28:30Your behaviour the other day was bizarre.
28:32And then you made a police complaint against, against my husband.
28:37Can I, can I just...
28:38No, no, I, I would like you to let me finish.
28:41I, I don't know what you're trying to do here, but it has to stop.
28:46I need to meet with you.
28:47I, I, look, I'm staying in accommodation on Lennox Street.
28:51Oh, Lennox, God.
28:52Well, I'm not, I'm not going to be dropping in.
28:55Hey, well then, a coffee.
28:58Please.
28:59You need to hear what I have to say.
29:01Did you tell your husband you were meeting with Miss Taylor for coffee on April 6th?
29:09Why the hell did you do that?
29:11If I say yes to the coffee, then maybe I can convince her to, to drop the police complaint
29:18and, and stop all this craziness.
29:20It's worth, it's worth a try.
29:21Love, you can't reason with somebody who's got to screw loose.
29:25But, okay, look, if it makes you feel better, hey, you go ahead.
29:39Exhibit 10, please.
29:42This CCTV footage captures you arriving at the cafe at 3pm.
29:48Mrs. Chaplin, did Amanda attend?
29:54No.
29:55Why not?
29:59Well, you know why not.
30:01If you can please answer the question, Mrs. Chaplin, why did Amanda not attend?
30:09Because she was dead.
30:16Miss Taylor died between 1pm and 2.30pm.
30:21Where did you believe your husband to be during that time?
30:24In his workshop, finishing a piece for a client.
30:27But you couldn't provide him with an alibi, could you?
30:31No.
30:32Josie went for her regular afternoon nap at 12.30pm, and so I was watching a documentary.
30:38I couldn't see or hear anything.
30:40So knowing this, knowing you were otherwise engaged, your husband went to Amanda Taylor's accommodation
30:48to make sure that she never had that meeting with you at 3pm, didn't he, Mrs. Chaplin?
30:53Objection, Your Honour.
30:54Mr. Chaplin cannot speculate, and for my learned colleague to ask the witness to do that, it borders on the absurd.
31:02Agreed, Mr. Colby.
31:04The state will rephrase the question.
31:06No need, Your Honour.
31:08No further questions.
31:10My learned friend's question borders on the absurd.
31:15Well, it is absurd to ask the wife who he murdered someone.
31:18Poor woman.
31:20As if she's going to say yes.
31:21Yeah, but she's on the stand for a reason, eh?
31:24You're right in.
31:25We don't call it the stand here.
31:29All right.
31:30The witness box, okay?
31:32Anyways, I thought that you couldn't be compelled to testify against your spouse.
31:37Are you worried about your own wife now, mate?
31:40Okay, okay.
31:41No, I like the wife.
31:44She seems sincere.
31:46Yeah?
31:47How awful to be in her position.
31:49Yeah, it's awful for all of them.
31:51Well, I'm sure that's what the defence is hoping we think, drag the daughter with the wheelchair into court to make us more sympathetic.
31:58That's a very cynical view, Blake.
32:00Yeah.
32:01No, no, it's called realism.
32:05Hey, I'm covering for the door bitch tonight.
32:06I'm working till ten.
32:08Guard your machine.
32:09You want to come keep me company?
32:12Ooh.
32:12Yes.
32:13I don't know.
32:14I love family.
32:16I'd like a quick word.
32:19Everyone.
32:19Everyone, I'd like a quick word.
32:21Here we go.
32:23Quick, quick, quick, quick.
32:28Um.
32:31This is, um, just a reminder that a certain gravity and decorum is expected while in the courtroom.
32:40Let's not let the team down going forward.
32:45Yes, Blake?
32:45Why are we all getting a lecture when it's just the girls giggling and snorting?
32:49Yeah, the girls.
32:50Hey, hang on, I'm just saying.
32:52Let's just call a spade a spade here.
32:53Regardless of who did what, what each of us does in the jury box reflects on the whole jury.
33:00So we all need to behave.
33:02Okay?
33:03Okay, Karen.
33:04It's Sharon.
33:10Ahem.
33:11Mrs. Chaplin, how long have you known Alan Chaplin?
33:33Well, we grew up together in Cape Rock, and we'll have been married 50 years this November.
33:42Now, you earlier testified about the photos of your husband fishing.
33:47How long ago was that taking?
33:49At least eight years ago.
33:52Does he still frequent that spot?
33:54No, he stopped going there.
33:56Why is that?
33:57Because he's a lousy fisherman?
33:59No, a lot of people go there.
34:03It gets too busy.
34:05In other words, it's a well-known, popular part of the river where anyone might dispose of a laptop.
34:10Am I right?
34:11Objection, Your Honour.
34:13Opinion.
34:14Upheld.
34:16Your Honour.
34:18Can you describe what sort of man Alan is?
34:22He's a very gentle person.
34:23He's a good husband.
34:26He's always been a rock for our family.
34:28Preach!
34:28Order.
34:29Can we please observe court etiquette?
34:32Is that your daughter cheering from the gallery, Mrs Chaplin?
34:35Yes, that's our daughter, Josie.
34:39Can you tell me, has your family got any special circumstances?
34:45Josie was born with cerebral palsy, and so she needs a lot of extra care.
34:50And because he's semi-retired and works from home, Alan has been her primary carer for the past ten years.
35:00He's a wonderful father.
35:02He's a calm person by nature.
35:06Indeed.
35:07So on the day your husband had an altercation with Amanda, was that out of character, do you think?
35:14Completely.
35:15I was surprised when I heard raised voices.
35:19Did he offer any explanation?
35:21She wanted his DNA.
35:22He felt that she was implying that he was responsible for the deaths of those girls.
35:29He said that she was hostile, and when he asked her to leave, she stole his hat.
35:36She stole her hat?
35:39Well, no, she tried to, sorry.
35:41And then when he wanted to get it back, and I think that's when she must have got the bruises on her arms,
35:48because she was fighting to keep the hat.
35:55Did the police visit your house that day?
35:59Yes.
36:01The police did come to our house, which was a shock.
36:05Thanks, thanks, guys.
36:11How could she file a complaint against you?
36:13I mean, you could file an AVO against her instead.
36:17What is this woman prepared to do to get a bestseller?
36:22Really.
36:24After Miss Taylor failed to meet you for coffee on April the 6th,
36:29what time did you get home?
36:31Well, I waited, and I texted her.
36:35And after a while, I decided she wasn't coming, so I left.
36:39I would have got home about 3.40.
36:42Was your husband home?
36:44Yes, he was in his workshop.
36:47Did his composure seem in any way different?
36:49Was he rattled or withdrawn in any way?
36:53No, he was normal.
36:55You're back then, sweetheart.
36:56Shh, Josie's still asleep.
36:58So, uh...
36:59What happened?
37:00What'd she say?
37:02She didn't even turn up.
37:04What?
37:04Yeah.
37:05Didn't even turn up.
37:10Did you know, Alan, in 1968,
37:13when Judith Donnelly and Susan Mead were murdered on Cape Rock Beach?
37:18Yes.
37:20We were both at that party that night.
37:26And we lined up together to give our statements to the police two days later.
37:32Alan.
37:33Can you believe it?
37:53When I first heard girls on the beach, I was so worried it was you.
37:57I was from Perth, but one of their families went to house here.
38:02I knew them.
38:05Did it cross your mind then or since
38:07that Alan might have been the perpetrator of those killings?
38:12Not for one second.
38:15Thank you very much, Mrs. Chaplin.
38:17You've been most helpful.
38:24Uh, Mrs. Chaplin.
38:27You've told the court that you didn't suspect your husband
38:31of the 1968 murders.
38:34Is that correct?
38:36Yes.
38:39Of the...
38:41378 men who were asked to provide blood samples at that time
38:47to be matched against the semen sample police found on one of the victims,
38:53only 17 men refused.
38:56your husband was one of those men.
39:01Were you aware of that?
39:09Alan Chaplin.
39:10Beth, turn off?
39:28No, he did.
39:30He cooperated fully with the police at the time.
39:33No.
39:39No, Mrs. Chaplin.
39:40He did not.
39:48Brett?
39:50Brett?
39:50Did you know about that?
39:52Did you?
39:53Beth, you're a state witness.
39:54No, he did know.
39:55Listen, I explained this to you very carefully in the car
39:59before we came here.
40:01Even if I knew about the blood test,
40:03I wouldn't be able to say anything to you.
40:05Do you understand?
40:06This is not fair on me.
40:07It's not fair.
40:08It's not fair.
40:09Yeah, it's all right.
40:10I'm sorry.
40:11Sorry.
40:14You mustn't let these doubts creep in.
40:16That's what they rely on.
40:18See?
40:21Yeah.
40:22Yeah.
40:23I'm sorry.
40:24Thanks.
40:25Thanks.
40:26Good.
40:29So what did you make of this morning's evidence?
40:30You know, you're very quiet.
40:32Sorry, man.
40:33It's just work, you know.
40:35Yeah, St. Gina's.
40:36Yeah, yeah.
40:37I tell you, those parents are getting their money's worth from you.
40:39Yeah.
40:40You know, they're hard work.
40:41You know.
40:42Yeah, I know.
40:45The truth is, I'm actually not going to be teaching there anymore.
40:51It's not my call.
40:54I'm sorry to hear.
40:55Can you fight it?
40:56Yeah, I could.
40:57But my daughter's going to be ducks in a year, probably.
41:00And, uh, get this.
41:02They said she can stay if I go quietly, and I think I'm just going to go quietly.
41:06Yeah, it's a bit rich, isn't it?
41:09She's a gifted cellist.
41:11And she relies on the instruments at the school.
41:13And you got kids?
41:14No, no.
41:15No kids.
41:17And what does your wife think about it?
41:19She passed.
41:20Oh, man.
41:21Shit.
41:22I'm gonna...
41:23I'll see you.
41:25See you later, yeah?
41:36See ya.
41:37Bye.
41:38When were you going to tell me?
41:39I had to hear through a rumour that the schools fired you?
41:51Who told you?
41:52What rumour?
41:53Hayley.
41:54Her parents.
41:55I was gonna have a meeting with Mrs. Thorne this morning before we were gonna have this conversation.
42:03Okay?
42:05Okay.
42:06You're going to fight it, right?
42:07Unfair dismissal?
42:08Oh, my God, Dad.
42:09Seriously.
42:10Seriously.
42:11The school's racist.
42:12You and I both know it, and you're going to just... let them get away with it.
42:23Selma, come on.
42:25Selma.
42:26Selma!
42:27Isn't it a flat pack?
42:28Why have you got your toolbox?
42:29Well, I'm...
42:30You know, I'm hoping that there's gonna be instructions.
42:31Yeah, but you're just gonna need an Allen key.
42:32Yeah, I've got an Allen key here.
42:33Right.
42:34Why?
42:35You know, in case there's something else I can do for a while there.
42:40I mean, I'll be home for dinner.
42:51Yeah, I just kind of feel like this new version of you where you're kinda like Mr. Fixit or...
42:58Well, I'll be Mr. Fixit here.
43:00I'll hang the, um, painting.
43:01Please, no, don't, don't.
43:02No, no, no.
43:03Actually, I want to say something.
43:04I'm just gonna feel like you're just feeling it all right.
43:07I just kind of feel like you're just feeling in your time to distract yourself
43:12and you're not really thinking about what's going on.
43:20And what's going on?
43:25I just want to...
43:26I'm kind of...
43:29I'm talking about your grief.
43:33I mean, I was reading something the other day and I couldn't help but think about you.
43:40It's this thing that you've got where you're doing all this good stuff for people.
43:44Yeah.
43:45It's kind of like a pathology.
43:48It can become a disorder.
43:51The disorder of what?
43:54Being a great person.
43:58Don't make me sound like an arsehole.
44:00You don't sound like an arsehole.
44:01You couldn't sound like an arsehole if you tried.
44:03You're a great person.
44:06I'm not saying that.
44:06It's like this is...
44:09It kind of feels like saviour complex.
44:14Like, when was the last time you did anything for yourself?
44:17You have not written a real piece of music for two years.
44:22It's like you're not turning up in yourself.
44:25It doesn't even feel like you.
44:26You're not turning up in yourself.
44:33It makes me feel better about not helping Izzy when I could.
44:59and that's, I think that's okay.
45:02Yeah.
45:03I think it's an okay thing and I'm going to go there,
45:05I'm going to completely butcher this table
45:07and then I'm going to come back here and I love you.
45:12Okay?
45:12Yeah.
45:14And is there, if there's anything you need me to get for dinner
45:17on the way back, I can save dinner.
45:19Oh my God.
45:20Okay, you can fuck off.
45:25Well, I write jingles,
45:26but I used to play indie rock.
45:29Okay, that's cool.
45:31I mean, not everyone gets to make a living out of music,
45:34so it's kind of cool.
45:35I think Tegan thought it was probably cooler
45:37when I was a rock star,
45:39but it was in New Zealand,
45:42so I'm not sure that counts.
45:44No, it doesn't really count.
45:45What about you?
45:47What do you think?
45:49I like earning money.
45:52Fair.
45:53Yeah, that's fair.
45:54My brother was in a band.
45:57Oh, really?
45:58Yeah, when he was in college,
45:59it was called the wet blankets.
46:02Yeah.
46:04Right, that's...
46:05It's got a ring to it.
46:06Mm-hmm.
46:08You got any siblings?
46:11I had a sister,
46:15but yeah, she died a while back.
46:20All right, here we go.
46:23It's one, uh...
46:24One fleurgen.
46:26Yeah, that's a fleurgen.
46:29Is it going in here?
46:31Oh, dear.
46:34That's, uh...
46:35Oh, no.
46:36That's an outdoor table.
46:37Yeah, that's an outdoor table.
46:38Yeah.
46:38Better day.
46:54Whoever decided to call all women of a certain age Karen
46:58should be bloody shot.
47:00Oh, they're young girls, huh?
47:05I don't know how they think it works.
47:07Throwing a bunch of misfits together.
47:10I mean, if we get a verdict out of this,
47:12it'll be a miracle.
47:14But who better
47:15to crack the whip than you, my love?
47:20Trouble is, I think these two might enjoy whipping.
47:24Not the only ones.
47:25What?
47:25I haven't...
47:25I've had one sip.
47:27Too bad.
47:27Oh, hey.
47:29Not on the balcony.
47:31To Gretel.
47:32Yeah, to Gretel.
47:33To Gretel.
47:33To Gretel.
47:34Let's go.
47:35Hey, Gretel.
47:37Give us a drop.
47:38What?
47:40Oh, my God.
47:41Oh, my God.
47:42No.
47:42You did.
47:43Numerous...
47:43I'm sorry, you did.
47:45Numerous times.
47:45But better than that.
47:46You were really on one last night.
47:48Oh, my God.
47:49Holy fuck.
47:50Look, who just walked in.
47:54Gretel, we can't be here with him.
47:55It'll be a mistrial.
47:56Okay.
47:57Holy fuck that.
47:58He's the one that can't be here.
47:59Someone has to tell him to leave.
48:02I'll do it.
48:03Okay.
48:05Give us a break.
48:05Give us a break.
48:06No, no, no.
48:06We actually want to spray him.
48:08Give us a spray.
48:09Okay.
48:10Okay, wait.
48:11Wait.
48:13Hey, this club is owned by one of the jury's boyfriends,
48:16so you need to leave.
48:17Like, right now, yeah.
48:20Are you serious?
48:21Yeah, now.
48:23Go.
48:24Oh, my God.
48:54Hi.
48:54Hello.
48:55Hey.
48:56Hey.
48:57Hey.
48:58Hey.
48:58Hello.
49:03Gretel.
49:04Come on.
49:06Hey.
49:07Hey, Gretel.
49:09Oh, come on.
49:11Oh, come on.
49:13Oh, come on.
49:14Oh, there you are.
49:25I was about to clear your plate away.
49:28Thanks.
49:29I ate at the pub.
49:32Oh, right.
49:32I thought I might stay a while longer, if that's all right.
49:45Yeah, of course.
49:50A little bit of a break.
49:51No one knows me here.
49:51I might get some writing done.
49:53The only thing is, I've got this murder trial on, you know that.
49:57That's fine.
49:58Might even ask around about a job.
50:00Why do you need some money?
50:01What do you need?
50:02Fuck off.
50:03I do all right for myself, if you haven't noticed.
50:04Yeah.
50:05Okay.
50:06Plus, I'm a grown-up.
50:09Now, I think I'll ask about a bar job that's always been my go-to.
50:12Oh, you don't need to do that.
50:13I know.
50:14But I like it.
50:15Plus, you're busy with your murder trial.
50:19So, it'll just be me and the dog and my keyboard here.
50:23Give me an excuse for that.
50:25What do you need?
50:26What do you need?
50:27What do you need?
50:28Fuck off.
50:29I do all right for myself, if you haven't noticed.
50:31Yeah.
50:32Okay.
50:33Plus, I'm a grown-up.
50:35Now, I think I'll ask about a bar job that's always been my go-to.
50:38Oh, you don't need to do that.
50:39I know.
50:40But I like it.
50:41Give me an excuse to get out of the house.
50:44Okay.
50:45But good night.
50:49Yeah.
50:50All right.
50:51Good night.
51:01Jonathan who?
51:03Jonathan Myers.
51:04He was in Cape Rock in 1968, but he was never questioned.
51:07He doesn't appear in any of the police notes I've been through.
51:10But get this.
51:12Ten years ago, he was charged with DV.
51:15Beat up his wife pretty badly.
51:17Could be our John.
51:19I'm going down there personally to interview him if you want to join.
51:22No, I'll...
51:23I'll meet you after.
51:24I've got my own footwork to do in the morning.
51:26Hello.
51:27Hi.
51:28Am I speaking to John?
51:29Yes.
51:30Hi.
51:31Hi.
51:32Am I speaking to John?
51:33Yes.
51:34Hi.
51:35My name is Amanda Taylor.
51:36I've been trying to track you down.
51:38I'm writing a book about the Cape Rock murders.
51:39I found your name amongst the police files.
51:43How did you get my number?
51:44How did you get my number?
51:45I've been trying to track you down.
51:46I'm writing a book about the Cape Rock murders.
51:48I found your name amongst the police files.
51:50How did you get my number?
51:51I've just been very industrious.
51:53John?
51:54John?
51:55Oh yeah.
51:56John?
51:57We talked to John.
51:58John?
51:59Yes?
52:00Hi, my name is Amanda Taylor.
52:01I've been trying to track you down.
52:03I've been trying to track you down,
52:05I've been trying to track you down.
52:07I'm writing a book about the Cape Rock murders.
52:09I found your name amongst the police files.
52:12How did you get my number?
52:13I've just been very industrious.
52:18John?
52:20Yes, yes, I'm here
52:22So look, I'll just I'll cut straight to the chase
52:24I've been asking all the men that were in the area at that time whether they would be willing to give a DNA sample
52:29I'm hoping with new forensic technology that we'll be able to make a breakthrough
52:37Hello, John?
52:49No part of this was a great movie
52:55I'm here
52:57I'm here
53:01I'm here
53:08I'm here
53:10You
53:12You
53:13You
53:14You
53:16You
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