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Joey-Lynn and Glenn became teenage parents when Samantha was born and to their shock, Samantha became a teenage mom herself and is now the mother of a 2-year-old girl named Krissy.
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00:00Hi, I'm in San Antonio, Texas, ready to help a very large family.
00:09Let's take a look.
00:10Hi, we're the George family.
00:13I'm Joey Lynn, the mom.
00:15I'm Glenn, the dad.
00:16And I'm Samantha, the oldest daughter. I'm 20.
00:19We have five daughters and one granddaughter.
00:22Brooke is 17, Savannah is 10, Haley is 6, Hayden is a year and a half,
00:27and our granddaughter Chrissy is 2.
00:29And we all live together.
00:32I was 16 years old when I got pregnant with Samantha.
00:36My whole goal all these years was just to get Samantha through high school
00:41and to enjoy life, and it backfired.
00:46I got pregnant with Chrissy at 17, had her when I was 18.
00:50I gave up cheerleading, I didn't go to school like I planned to right after.
00:54I'll never forget, thank you to myself, I am 35 years old.
00:58I'm gonna be a grandmother.
00:59As a parent, it's one of the most difficult things that you can endure.
01:04Our granddaughter is actually older than our own daughter.
01:07Finding out I was a grandma was the worst day of my life.
01:11Don't hit the baby's legs!
01:13I'm the assistant director for a water company.
01:17Bye guys!
01:18I spent most of my time at work 12 hours a day.
01:21You're gonna stay right there!
01:23I work seven days a week.
01:25Bye, I'll see y'all later!
01:27So I leave my daughter with my mom.
01:29Stop!
01:30I'm a stay-at-home mom.
01:31And grandmother.
01:32And I'm here alone taking care of all the children.
01:35It's hectic, it's hard, it's stressful, and overwhelming.
01:40Okay, but I can't carry two of you.
01:43Tyrant.
01:44I'm gonna stop already!
01:46The constant fighting in this household...
01:48Can y'all stop?
01:49...is an everyday ordeal.
01:51She has no right to be talking.
01:53Why not?
01:54There's a lot of name-calling.
01:55He's not even yelling at her because of that, you idiot.
01:58Teasing.
01:59You're ghetto.
02:00You're ghetto.
02:01Everybody's seriously angry in this house.
02:03It's mainly Samantha and Brooke.
02:06Nobody's talking to you!
02:07Shut up!
02:08Mainly Brooke.
02:09You are the biggest **** ever.
02:11They call each other from the B word to the F word.
02:14Can I just get along, please?
02:16Nope.
02:17The verbal abuse, it's in every sentence.
02:20You think that hurts?
02:21Damn, shut the hell up.
02:22Yeah, well, quit being a crybaby.
02:24The little ones are watching and they're just doing exactly the same thing.
02:28Brilliant.
02:29Now everyone's arguing.
02:31Listen to me, Savannah.
02:33Savannah, I mean it.
02:34Stop.
02:35When it comes down to discipline, they don't take us seriously.
02:38Get down!
02:39Help!
02:40Please.
02:41I do let them get away with more than what they should.
02:43Stop it!
02:44Just put them down!
02:46They know how to play and push my buttons and to get what they want.
02:51You allow it a little and it just gets out of hand.
02:54Don't!
02:55Don't!
02:56They know that...
02:57You can't discipline them.
02:58How come that's not discipline?
02:59I mean, no follow through.
03:01How are these kids meant to learn?
03:04Do not be hitting me!
03:08If this doesn't work, we're all gonna lose it.
03:10Don't lose it!
03:12I wanna get away from all this evil!
03:15Super Nanny, we need you now.
03:18You guys seriously need help.
03:21Hold on.
03:22I'm on my way before you kill each other.
03:36Oh my God, does it really hurt?
03:38Hi!
03:39Hello!
03:40Hi!
03:41Hi, pleased to meet you, Jeffra.
03:42Hi, I'm Joey Lin.
03:43Come in!
03:44I was excited to meet Joe.
03:46And behind the excitement, I was nervous.
03:49I felt like a child in trouble.
03:51She's gonna straighten you guys out.
03:53Come meet the family!
03:55We have guests!
03:56Hi, I'm Glenn.
03:57Nice to meet you.
03:58Hi, Joe.
03:59Nice to meet you.
04:00Okay, well, here you go.
04:01Here's the kids.
04:02Hi, I'm Samantha.
04:03Hi.
04:04Nice to meet you.
04:05Hi, and you've got a little one, right?
04:06Yeah, this is Chrissy.
04:07Chrissy, say hi!
04:08Hi, how are you?
04:09I was happy that she was there, but nervous at the same time, didn't know what to expect.
04:13Hi, Hayley.
04:14How are you?
04:15Hello, I'm Brooke.
04:16Hi, Brooke.
04:17Pleased to meet you.
04:18This is Hayden.
04:19Hi, Hayden.
04:20The pleasantries were wonderful, but trouble was arriving and it was coming in full force.
04:27Savannah, what are you doing?
04:29I noticed right away that mum and dad was letting the younger children run completely wild.
04:35And when Savannah jumped up on the pool table, her older sister, Samantha, didn't really
04:40do much about it.
04:42Get down before Chrissy sees you and Hayley and they all want to...
04:45Get down.
04:46Get down.
04:47Good job.
04:48Just answer me.
04:49Why don't you listen?
04:50She did give up and she called for dad who was playing with the younger ones in another
04:54room.
04:55Wait till dad sees you.
04:56But all he does is yell.
04:58Get off the pool table.
04:59Man, I mean, you better get off of there.
05:02There was no follow through at all.
05:04Next, Hayley started aggravating her sisters with some foam puzzle pieces.
05:09Don't hit me.
05:10You better not.
05:11Don't hit me.
05:12I'm going to hit you back.
05:13Dad, come here.
05:14Why?
05:15Mom!
05:16Let it go.
05:17The older sister, Samantha, was messing around with the kids.
05:20Dad wasn't lifting a finger.
05:22And in the end, it was Brooke who disarmed Hayley, who then went running off to mum for sympathy.
05:27Mom!
05:28In there or up there?
05:30Mom!
05:31Mom!
05:32Stop!
05:33Stop teasing her.
05:34Why are you teasing her?
05:35Why are you making her cry?
05:36I am so at my wit's end that it needs to change.
05:40I cannot continue to live this way.
05:42It's where I'm getting headaches every day.
05:44No, no, no, papa.
05:45No, papa.
05:46No, papa.
05:47No, no, no.
05:48Hayley, no!
05:49Then things started to calm down a little bit and Dad used an old trick to get some peace.
05:55Let's play the quiet game.
05:56Let's see who can be the quietest.
05:58Set, go.
05:59I actually thought it was a good time to get his perspective on the girls.
06:02Glenn, what do you see when you look at these four on the sofa and you look at your daughters here?
06:08What do you see?
06:09I see that each one wants my attention in some form of way that I can't give.
06:14What can't you give?
06:16I can't give my undivided attention.
06:18Glenn doesn't feel that he can give his girls the time and attention that they need.
06:23But if he doesn't, they're going to start to get it somewhere else.
06:29You want some juice?
06:30I couldn't help but notice Hayden spends a lot of time attached to Mum's hip.
06:35Yeah, right, do you want that cup?
06:37I feel like I'm not supposed to put her down.
06:39I'm not supposed to let her cry.
06:40What?
06:41Look at the water's boiling and I'm not ready to...
06:43Ow!
06:44It's hot.
06:45Yep, it's hot.
06:46Mum passed off Hayden to Dad, but that's no real solution.
06:49That's going from one hip to the next.
06:51I guess it's kind of hard to make the food if you've got a little one on your hip.
06:54Exactly.
06:55Yeah.
06:56She knows it's hot and that's why I have to tell them because she'll be right here and it's too hot.
07:01Mum also realises it can be a serious safety issue.
07:05So I am going to have to teach her how to get Hayden off her hip.
07:09I wanted to find out more about this broken down relationship between the two older sisters, Samantha and Brooke.
07:15So I decided to sit down with Brooke first.
07:18You're feeling in a lot of pain because you're not feeling like you're connecting.
07:21Sometimes I feel like I can't even go to her.
07:23And you're supposed to go to your sister, you know?
07:26But like she'll yell at me like if she's my mom.
07:28Like I look at her and I'm just like, you're not my mother.
07:31Like I don't even know why you try to be my mom.
07:33And then it was time to get the other side of the story.
07:36I can't give her no kind of advice.
07:38If I'd go up to her, she just blows up.
07:40It's nobody's business.
07:41Nobody can tell me what to do.
07:42This is my life.
07:43Why do y'all care?
07:45It's almost like you're talking through a lump in your throat.
07:48What is it that you feel sad about?
07:50I don't understand how she can't.
07:54She don't talk to me.
07:55She won't talk to my mom.
07:57It's like she has nobody to go to.
07:59Did your parents kind of preach abstinence?
08:03Like don't have sex at all with boys?
08:05Or did your mom and dad ever talk to you about
08:07kind of the responsibilities of it?
08:09They've never explained the responsibilities
08:11or talked about do it this way or this is the safe way.
08:14It's just don't do it.
08:16The fact that mom and dad were teenage parents themselves
08:19means that they should be having a very open conversation
08:23with their teenage daughters about sex.
08:26so I know at some stage I'm gonna have to sit down
08:28and have this conversation with them all.
08:32Later on in the afternoon,
08:33Savannah started to create a little bit of mischief
08:35with her younger sister Hayley.
08:37Even after I tell Savannah to stop it three or four times.
08:41Don't hit me.
08:42Mommy, Savannah's hitting me my face.
08:45Savannah, leave her alone.
08:47Savannah keeps on continuing to tease Hayley.
08:50I'll be facing you.
08:51Ow!
08:52Mommy!
08:54Daddy's coming.
08:55Daddy's coming.
08:56I mean, is this really happening?
08:58Mom doesn't want to step up and take responsibility
09:00in disciplining these kids.
09:01She wants to pass the buck on to dad.
09:03No.
09:04Mm-mm.
09:05Well, he's not effective either.
09:06Come on.
09:07Discipline in this house is completely lacking.
09:10So I know I'm gonna have to address this with them.
09:14Later on in the afternoon,
09:15I got a chance to really sit down with mom and dad
09:17and talk about Samantha being a teenage parent.
09:21I did everything to prevent that from Samantha.
09:24I had her involved in cheerleading.
09:25I had her involved in sports.
09:27So you got her involved in doing lots of sports
09:30so that she wouldn't have sex and fall pregnant?
09:32Yes.
09:33I don't want Savannah and Hayley and Hayden to think,
09:36oh, well, when I get in high school,
09:38I become a senior and I get pregnant.
09:39We feel like we failed with Samantha.
09:42Is it something me and Glenn are doing?
09:44We thought that Samantha, if she had questions,
09:47that she would come and ask.
09:49So now we'd say, where did we go wrong?
09:52So do we just continue living the way we do?
09:55And when that happens, again, we just accept it?
10:00What they can do as parents is talk about accountability
10:03and responsibility in sexual behaviour
10:06as children are teenagers and become young adults.
10:10None of that had been done.
10:16Tomorrow morning, we are gonna have a meeting
10:18because I certainly do need to speak to those with children,
10:22which means, Samantha, you're in, OK?
10:26I know the time is coming when she's gonna come out,
10:29just laying the hammer down,
10:31just, like, going to the death chamber.
10:33Good night, everybody. Thank you. Thank you very much.
10:35I was sitting there thinking to myself,
10:38what is she gonna come and tell us tomorrow?
10:40What is she gonna tell me?
10:41I was scared to hear that. I was fearful.
10:44Now it's the ass-ripping time now.
10:48I'm really looking forward to sitting down
10:49and having a family meeting with these three parents,
10:51Mum and Dad and Sam.
10:53I tell you, it can't come soon enough.
10:55What are you thinking?
10:56Who?
10:57Yeah.
10:58Still right.
10:59Hi.
11:00Hello.
11:01Hello.
11:02So, what I want to talk to you about are the issues that I've seen.
11:19When I walked into this home, I was hit straight in the face
11:24by so much animosity and hostility and anger.
11:29Nobody talks. When you get angry, nobody sits down and talks.
11:34There's been a lot of yelling and shouting where it's become aggressive.
11:38Yes.
11:39And you're breeding that aggression throughout the whole of the family,
11:43down to Hayden and Chrissy hitting each other
11:46because they've grown up with it. They've seen it.
11:48It's just a cycle that it's normal.
11:51Which is absolutely crazy.
11:54Discipline's a big issue here because nobody is stepping up of authority here.
12:00Nobody's taking charge. Nobody's laying down any foundation.
12:04My kids know how to manipulate us.
12:06Oh, please, Glen.
12:07Glen.
12:08That's what they do.
12:09You allow it.
12:10You allow it.
12:11You're right.
12:12So, what do you both do to sit down and say,
12:14look, this is what we need to realize ourselves.
12:17These are our ground rules.
12:19We can't put our hands up and then go,
12:20oh, well, you know what?
12:21They bent our arm and, you know, they know how to do this.
12:23No, because you allowed it.
12:25So, really what I'm hearing is our kids know how to get their own way
12:28because we wasn't responsible or accountable.
12:31You're copping out of your responsibilities.
12:35None of you want to do the hard work.
12:37I want to. I want to do that.
12:39How badly? Because I don't see you doing it.
12:41I don't know how.
12:43Then you'll be taught how.
12:45Let's talk about Samantha and Brooke.
12:48Not connecting as one should as close sisters.
12:52Brooke will say, I can't go to Sam because Sam will go and tell you.
12:55Like, she's not their sister. She's one of the parents.
12:59I wish I was a lot closer to Brooke.
13:02And she tells me numerous times, you know,
13:04I can't even run to you. I can't even tell you anything.
13:06So, I feel more like I'm pushed away because of that.
13:09The reality is, how much trust is there in this family?
13:13I'll answer that question. There's none.
13:15None of you trust each other.
13:17That's the truth.
13:20I want to talk about teaching responsibility.
13:23You're talking in front of Samantha like she's a failure.
13:28She got pregnant.
13:29But there was no grounding teaching her as a young woman
13:33about responsible decisions and planning.
13:36I thought to myself, if I talk to her about sex,
13:40then she thinks it's okay to have it.
13:42So, no conversation about it and just telling her to abstain
13:46from any kind of sex led her to being pregnant.
13:50I'm not sitting here saying that it's acceptable
13:53for young teenagers to be having sexual activity,
13:56but you've got to be talking.
13:59Now, let's stop talking and let's start working.
14:03I'm willing to bend in any direction I have to.
14:06Good, because trust me, I'm going to bend you.
14:08Trust me, I could bend you as well.
14:10Oh, I'm going to bend.
14:13Yeah.
14:14So, I look forward to seeing you very, very soon.
14:22The first thing I want to do with the George family
14:24is to establish some house rules.
14:26I have here, get with the memo, okay?
14:29So, it's a little British thing, we said get with a memo.
14:31And this memo is all about house rules.
14:34So, let's throw up some ideas.
14:36The house rules was something we really needed,
14:38something that has never been there.
14:40No yelling.
14:41How could we discipline somebody
14:43when they don't know that they broke a rule?
14:46The three parents filled out the rules
14:49and then I had them explain it to the younger kids.
14:52Hannah, how are you?
14:53The first house rule, and this is for everybody.
14:57No cursing.
15:00No name calling.
15:02They seem to be in shock.
15:03Like, what?
15:04We have rules in this house?
15:05We're going to have rules?
15:06They were in disbelief.
15:08No getting on top of the furniture.
15:10No getting on top of the counters.
15:12What if I need to read something?
15:13Jumping on the sofas.
15:14Ask.
15:15The demonstration of the memo, I think it is going to work.
15:17Along the way, we're going to derail from those.
15:20But we're going to pick each other up.
15:22We're going to get right back on the trail.
15:27Now with rules in place, these three parents do need to be taught
15:31how the time out works and the importance of discipline
15:34instead of passing the buck.
15:36At snack time, I had the opportunity to teach Samantha
15:39how to give a proper warning to her little one, Chrissy.
15:43Hey, you don't say that, okay?
15:48Joe explained to us that when they break a rule or they're doing something bad,
15:53that you go down to their level, make eye contact.
15:56Hey, do you want me to put you in the naughty spot on the stairs?
15:59Do you want to sit there?
16:00Don't threaten it, but just move her around and say no saying that.
16:03If you talk like that being rude, then I'm putting you straight on the naughty step, okay?
16:08So don't threaten it.
16:09Deliver what you're going to do if she continues.
16:11Okay.
16:12So follow through on that with her.
16:13Hey.
16:14I'm going to sit you on the naughty step if you say that again.
16:16I don't want you to say that.
16:17That's a bad word, okay?
16:19Chrissy got the message pretty fast.
16:21And she stopped that behaviour.
16:23And then Samantha went off to work leaving Grandma in charge,
16:26but that's when Chrissy started to play up again.
16:28Ow!
16:30What did she do?
16:31I think she beat me or pinch me.
16:34You don't pinch Haley or fight or I'm going to put you on the naughty step.
16:37No, no, no.
16:38Nope.
16:39And when Chrissy kept hitting,
16:40it was time for Grandma to step up and follow through with time out.
16:43Sit her on the step.
16:44Come on.
16:45Explain why she's there.
16:46Listen.
16:47Come on.
16:48You're going to come sit on the naughty step because you were hitting Haley.
16:49No, no, no.
16:50Yes.
16:51Come on.
16:52Come on.
16:53Come on.
16:54Sit her on the step.
16:55Explain why she's there.
16:56Listen to Grandma.
16:57Listen.
16:58You don't hit Haley.
17:00You have to sit here.
17:01Because you hit Haley.
17:02Okay, right here.
17:03Move away.
17:04Move away.
17:05Set your alarm.
17:06It was kind of hard because that's my granddaughter.
17:08She's my baby.
17:09Walk her back.
17:10Come on.
17:11Sit on the first step.
17:12Come on.
17:13No talking to her, Mom.
17:14No talking to her.
17:15Just put her straight back on the first step.
17:16She kept crying after me and after me, and I just wanted to cry.
17:21Move away.
17:22Just move away.
17:23Just move away.
17:24Every time she'd cry out to me, it was hurting, breaking my heart.
17:26Mom, look.
17:27Watch.
17:28Look how it is.
17:29I showed Mom exactly what to do, and I took Chrissy by the hand and placed her on the step
17:34where she stayed for the two minutes.
17:35The two minutes are up.
17:36You go back and you explain again, okay?
17:37Okay.
17:38Sorry.
17:39Hugs and kisses.
17:40And then she can get back up again.
17:41Grandma.
17:42Grandma put you on the naughty step because you hit Haley.
17:43Okay?
17:44Tell Grandma you're sorry.
17:45Say you're sorry.
17:46You're sorry.
17:47You're sorry.
17:48Okay.
17:49She says, she still loved me.
17:50I disciplined her and she still loved me.
17:51Okay.
17:52Let's go.
17:53You went.
17:54That just leaves Dad.
17:55He had an opportunity to discipline when his girls were playing outside.
17:56Mom, Dad, Dad, Dad.
17:57Mom!
17:58Mom!
17:59Mom!
18:00Mom!
18:01Mom!
18:02Mom!
18:03Mom!
18:04Mom!
18:05Mom!
18:06Mom!
18:07Mom!
18:08Mom!
18:09Mom!
18:10Mom!
18:11Mom!
18:12Mom!
18:13Mom!
18:14Mom!
18:15Mom!
18:16Mom!
18:17Mom!
18:18Mom!
18:19Mom!
18:20Mom!
18:23Mom!
18:24Mom!
18:25Mom!
18:26Mom!
18:28Mom!
18:29Mom!
18:30Dad gave him Savannah a warning about her bothering her sisters, but she didn't listen
18:35to him at all.
18:36And so he decided to take all of the girls inside and do what he thought was best.
18:40More talking.
18:41What I don't want you to think that it's okay to smackл wordt .
18:44Haley. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Time out. She knows it's wrong to hit Haley.
18:49She does. But she does it anyway. I had a discussion with her yesterday. The discussion
18:53ain't working, mate. No disrespect or nothing, Glenn, but you've been using this chit-a-chat-a-chit-a-chat
18:59for how many years? Where's it got you with Savannah? Like, seriously, where has it got
19:04you with her? Dad just needed to stop talking and take action, so I decided to show him what
19:11that entails. Savannah, come here, please. On the step. Right now. I do not find it funny
19:21that you think it's OK to hit your sister across the head. It's unacceptable behaviour.
19:27I expect you to sit here for 10 minutes and think about what you're doing, because every
19:33time you behave that way, you are going to be disciplined. Do you understand me? I expect
19:40you to use your voice. Yes. OK. That was a rude awakening, not only for me, but I think
19:47for Savannah. Just by what she demonstrated, that's exactly what Savannah needs.
19:52You've got to put action in. I don't want to hear too much talking. OK, you talk a good
19:57talk, but I want to see you walk a walk now. When Savannah's 10 minutes were over, we went
20:02back to wrap things up. So I do want you to apologise for your father, OK? And you do need
20:08to apologise to your sister as well, because it's unacceptable. You know, all I want is
20:14going on. Follow the rules. Follow the steps. Follow the steps. You can have a conversation
20:18about this afterwards. OK? Every time, every time that you... The steps, Glenn. The steps. That
20:26definitely needed a guided hand. But he did successfully complete the time out. Sorry. Won't happen
20:33again. He does still have a lot of work to do, though, so it's going to be interesting to see
20:38if you can pull it off. Sorry. Sorry. I'm still OK. There's a lot of bad communication
20:46going on in this family, and it's all fuelled by serious anger. We've got Samantha, who's
20:51a teenage mum, and the two older sisters are not talking to each other. So this is what
20:56I have for you. The George Family Journal. You are going to write into this journal all the
21:03wonderful things that you are now starting to see, and all the things that certainly
21:07need work on. It's important that we diffuse the confrontations that are happening, like,
21:13every 15 minutes in this house. You will come to the family journal, and you'll write down
21:18all the positives and the negatives that you're seeing. And at the end of every day, you will
21:23sit around the table, the four of you, and discuss the issues that are in this book.
21:27Throughout the day, the family wrote down the good and the bad in the journal. So I'm
21:33very curious to see how it plays out later on.
21:37OK, can you put your plate in the kitchen for me?
21:40My next move, really, is to deal with Hayden being attached to mum's hip. I mean, how can
21:44you get anything done when you've got this going on? And also, it's a safety issue. So
21:49what I want to do is to introduce the off-the-hip technique with mum. Put her down, come down to
21:55her high. And then say to her, Mommy's going to be busy cooking. You play with some of
21:59your toys. OK, Hayden, listen to mommy. Listen to me. Listen to mommy.
22:05Hayden bawled her eyes out. You know, she wasn't happy with the idea that she couldn't sit on
22:09mum's hips. Hayden, I'm going to make papa for you. I have to make dinner.
22:15It was hard seeing my baby cry. It's OK. Look, mommy's right over here. That's why she was
22:21always on my hip. I don't want to hear my baby cry. Mommy can't carry you. I have to
22:25make dinner, OK? It was breaking my heart and I didn't want to look at her face because if
22:29I saw her tears coming down, that was going to bring my tears coming down. Oh, my gosh.
22:37So, mom, so you're cooking here and the oven may be on. So move away from the oven, darling.
22:43This is hot. This is very hot. We're going to walk over here this way. Just move it to the side.
22:48It's hot. We have to stay right here. OK, lovely.
22:53If you just put your child down for one moment, the child's not going to feel like you don't love
22:57them anymore. And once mom understood that, she continued and Hayden just gave up after a while.
23:05I feel great about being able to have Hayden off my hip. I get freedom. I get my own little space. I get
23:11a healthier back. I get to be able to accomplish something a lot faster than it was being done before.
23:18You did a fabulous job with off the hip. I know. So keep going with it. OK.
23:26The next thing I really want to work on is this strained relationship between Brooke and Sam.
23:31I do believe I have a technique that will help them. I want to give you both the opportunity to
23:37write a letter to one another about how you feel about each other from here. OK? And when you've done
23:43that, bring me your letters. Writing letters will be a way that these sisters will be able to express
23:49how they've been feeling. And then they can convey that to one another without bickering like they
23:53have done. I knew this is the time to say what I'm feeling. I felt pretty good about saying everything
24:01because I knew if I were to tell my sister face to face, she would just fight with me about it.
24:05So let's just read our letters and take it from there. Let's just go with it. Sam read the letter
24:11I wrote to her. Sam, I feel like all this time we've had together was a waste. I mean,
24:18we spent most of the time fighting over stupid things. I felt like the only time you wanted me
24:24around was to watch Chrissy when you'd go out. I could tell she was real hurt, but I just wanted
24:30to let her know that I was hurt by the way she treated me. There's been so much I wanted to tell
24:35you, but I couldn't because it would get out and everyone would know. We're not the sisters I wanted
24:40us to be. You're like the friend I can't stand at times, but I would honestly like for us to get
24:46closer and act like we're all sisters for once. How do you feel reading a letter like the one that
24:55you've just read from your sister? It hurts, but I don't blame her. There's no communication.
25:01We've never talked. It's like I've been against her rather than on her side. It makes me want to be
25:07a better sister. Valerie Jones? Yes. Brooke, I know we haven't gotten along for a while. I hate that
25:15things are this way. It hurts me that you can't run to me as your older sister because you're afraid.
25:19I admit that it's my fault. I made you feel like you can't trust me, like your feelings don't matter to
25:24me and they do. Love you, Sam. Sam's letter said to me that she's sorry for the way she is. She
25:31wanted to change and I like the fact that she's really trying on that. I love you and I would help
25:38you with whatever you need. You know that I'd do that. Everything you just said made me realize that
25:51you care. I never really expected you to be there and I feel like you are.
25:58In the future, I feel like we're still going to continue being open with each other.
26:02I could see it in Brooke's eyes that she was happy. I felt that she understood what I was saying.
26:10At the end of the day, I brought out the family journal so that mum and dad and the two older
26:18sisters could discuss what they had wrote. Rules not followed. This is when I was upset. Samantha
26:24was disrespectful to me. I was just frustrated and took my anger out on you instead of just letting you know
26:31why I was such in a bad mood. And did we step up? We talked and I talked to my dad too about it in the
26:38car. Nice. All right. That's good stuff. What was really nice about this conversation was how
26:44everybody was talking to each other so nicely, so respectfully, so polite and considerate to
26:50everybody else. We were smiling, we were laughing, we were communicating, we were talking about
26:56even the bad stuff in a civil way and if that's going to be the way it's going to be then it's going
27:03to be great every day. I am going for several days. In that space of time, I am expecting you guys to
27:14really hold down thought with everything that's been taught. The biggest challenge with Jo being gone is
27:21the off the hip routine with Hayden because she's my baby. Recognizing when a warning is necessary,
27:28following through with discipline. I think my dad's going to struggle with discipline when you put
27:34anybody in the naughty spot. You just tell them why they're in there and walk away. Well, my dad
27:38doesn't walk away. Savannah, I hope you're not going to keep that naughty step warm. When she left us,
27:45Joey and I looked at each other and said, hey, it's do or die. I really do hope that George family
27:52keep up their communication whilst I'm gone because when I come back, this family do need to discuss
27:58sex education. This family had some serious work to do whilst I was gone. I wonder how it panned out.
28:08Who's ready? I'm ready. We're all ready. Okay, our first clip we're going to take a look at is
28:15mom time out. Tell everybody else again. You have to listen to your mom. No. That's a warning right
28:23now. And if you don't get up and go and get it, you're going to go and sit down. No more talking.
28:29You don't have to give me the pamper no more. Now you're going to have to go and sit down for 10
28:32minutes. Okay, you're going to sit right here. What? Wait out the stairs. No, she's in trouble
28:38right now. She's going to sit there for 10 minutes. I sat you here because I asked you more
28:44than once to get me a pamper and you disobeyed, correct? Yes. Okay, now you tell me you're sorry
28:51for not. What are you sorry for? Not getting a pamper. Not doing as you're told. Okay.
28:57I'm actually glad that you put that into perspective because, I mean, she laughed and
29:05said it's a pamper. That's no different to you asking her to get something for you that's not
29:10to do with the babies. It was the fact with exactly what you were saying. I asked you to do something
29:15and you just didn't want to listen and do it. So I'd like to say, you know, salute to yourself in
29:21doing that. All right, so we're going to take a look at yourself, Glenn, here and see how well you
29:24did with the time out. I think she already got a warning earlier. Put your DS up. No,
29:31why don't you? Now. Put it up now. You know what? Just for that, I'm, you know. You're hurting me.
29:38Well, I asked you, I asked you to walk over here nicely. Well, you're on the drag beat. You hurt me.
29:47Walk away and let her be there 10 minutes. Savannah, where are you? Sit down on the stairs. Like I told you,
29:54every time that you move from here, I'm going to start the clock all over again.
29:59Just sit there. Let's try it again. Another 10 minutes. Okay. You're going to be sitting here
30:03all day long until you get it right. And I'm taking this away for the rest of the day.
30:08You stayed too long. I'm going to let you up from here. Okay. But throughout the day, you need to
30:14keep your hands off of everybody. I don't want to hear any name calling. I don't want to hear no teasing.
30:20Now, I want you to tell me you're sorry for acting up the way you did this morning. Sorry. No,
30:24look at me and mean it, mean it. Are you squatting down to her? Acting up. Oh, dear, I'm tired.
30:32That's all mine. My word, that was draining. I spent too much time with her, um, there going back and
30:39forth. You think? Yeah. And then your family said, walk away. You didn't listen and you stayed there.
30:46That was not a time out. That was pathetic. Yeah. And she, she actually got up from the step and,
30:53and ran upstairs. That's why I went to go. Glenn, it's very simple. It's a few steps and you follow
30:58them and done. Finished. Definitely. I have to change that. You've got your family who are remembering
31:04certain bits and they're actually reminding you. So take heed of that. Yeah. Um, I had a question.
31:09So when, I mean, just in case Chrissy does this, like when she would run up there,
31:13was he just supposed to grab her and put her back on the step and just walk away?
31:17Yeah. Just, you just keep doing that? Yeah. No communication.
31:21So let's take a look off the hip. She's on the hip, mom. Yep. Exactly. But I'm just,
31:30I'm really not doing anything. I'm fine. You're in the back?
31:35Let's get down. We'll like, we'll like. Stay right here until I finish, okay?
31:39I'm going to get you in a minute. Let me, let me, let me finish rinsing it. Let me finish rinsing it.
31:44Let me finish rinsing this and we'll get you, okay? I'm almost done.
31:50We've come far from crying hysterically. Yes. To literally her accepting the fact that you've got
31:56things to do. Exactly. And obviously the family are doing a good job at supporting.
32:01So just keep going with it. You know, she is going to get to a point where she's going to be too heavy.
32:05Yes. Or your hip's going to give. She actually is already getting too heavy, yes.
32:09There has been some good progress that's been made with this family. And yes,
32:13Glenn is going to need some more of his family's help when it comes to time out. But right now,
32:18I do need to talk to this family about something far more serious. Thank you.
32:22Why don't we just grab a cup of coffee somewhere a little bit more relaxed?
32:30Because there's something that I want to talk to you guys all about.
32:32When I first met the family, mum was absolutely petrified. The girls would grow up following in
32:37her footsteps, having children extremely young. And I know that she wants them to certainly think
32:43about other goals. Well, listen, I've brought you guys here to kind of wind down and have a really nice,
32:50casual conversation about babies. I'll define that. Sex education. I just thought it was absolutely
32:59valuable that these two older daughters give advice to their parents to help them with the younger
33:05girls when it's time. You know, there are teenagers now who are thinking at the age of 12, 13 of
33:12experimenting. I was just thinking that sex wasn't talked about amongst girls to like the age of 16.
33:19Now that I see it or it looked it when they're at the ages in middle school, 11, 12 years old,
33:27that's like a big topic. And then once you get to the age where you're thinking that they're doing it
33:32is when it's just natural to them. Like one of my friend's little sisters,
33:35she's in middle school. She's in seventh grade. She's already having a baby. She's almost due.
33:39I mean, to have your heads in the cloud and not be realistic
33:43with basically what you're hearing and seeing is to not be responsible as a parent to educate.
33:49There's education at school. What age are they teaching it?
33:5314. Exactly. There are kids at 14 that are having babies that are pregnant at 14. As a parent,
33:59you've got to look at the things that you can control. If we all realize that actually we need
34:03to be taking things into our own hands and having conversations earlier, I'm not talking about Haley's
34:08age, but you understand what I'm talking about. If we start having these conversations earlier,
34:12then we know as parents that we're doing something. We never talked about birth control. I didn't even
34:19know how birth control worked. I was never given to me. It was never offered to me. I mean, you've
34:24never even told me, don't do it. It's just like, I knew what it was. It was just never talked about
34:31with me. Sometimes it's just overwhelming. I just want to protect them and give them the best advice that
34:37I can. A daughter wants to please, okay, and wants that permission and acceptance from her father
34:44because you are the first role model that they have with regards to men. You become closer through
34:51having these conversations so that they're growing to young ladies who are not looking, you know, for
34:57that acceptance in other men when really they're looking for it with their own father.
35:01At first, we really didn't think we could do it, but now I feel I could go to my parents and talk to
35:07them without them getting mad at me. I feel like they'll take their time out of the day to listen
35:12to each and every one of us if we have something to say to them.
35:18Now that dad has shown so much promise in listening to his daughters, I brought in a technique that will
35:23really help him to establish some time to give to them. It is so important that he gives them the
35:29attention that they need. I've created this board for you so that each day of the week here you can
35:38make time to enjoy with each and every one of your children. It's not really about the quantity of time
35:46but the quality. Even if it's just 20 minutes and it's consistent, that's what counts. Joe made a good
35:54point that girls look up to their fathers and sometimes when that father doesn't give that
36:00attention that the daughters are yearning for, they'll try to find it somewhere. Hayden, you're
36:05always with because when you come home you're looking after her and you're playing with her.
36:11So what I have here is Brooke, Savannah, Hayley and Sam. So placing these cards into your little
36:21take the time board allows you to remember, I'm going to take that 20 minutes or that half an hour
36:29and I'm going to do something that's quality with them. I think it's a beautiful thing. I think that's
36:34one thing that I'm going to stick to. Work, it's going to be work. It's going to be there when I get
36:38back. But that precious time, you'll never gain it back. Commit, make that time for them. Let them know
36:45that they're special and loved. I believe that he'll actually realise how badly he needed this
36:52and it's a win-win situation for both dad and the girls. Oh they're going to be excited when they see
36:57that. So guys, my work's done here but your work's just begun. I wish you much success, work together,
37:09communication and be kind to one another please. You're all on the same side. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
37:17I have great hopes for the future. With everything Jo has taught us, we have actually been able to
37:23communicate like we've never have before. Take care of yourself, okay? Keep talking.
37:30I feel really grateful that Jo came into our lives to help us. Everybody's a lot, they're like different
37:37people now. Glenn, take care. Saying bye to Jo, it was an emotional moment for me,
37:43she's taught me so much. Remember, listen, okay? I will. I've really enjoyed my experience working
37:49with this family because it has been amazing to see Joey step up and Glenn understand that he needs
37:57to listen, to communicate thoroughly.