- 6/24/2025
Josh Dun from Twenty One Pilots zooms in to talk about the band's upcoming tour and more.
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00:00it's been a while since we've said hi to one of our buddies in 21 pilots in fact of all the times
00:03we've chatted with you guys i don't think we've ever had you independently and i wasn't sure if
00:07you were even able to operate when not side by side but ladies and gentlemen the return of josh
00:11dunn on k-rock what's up josh you're kind of correct you're half correct i don't i mostly
00:17don't know how to operate without tyler here but uh we're gonna we're gonna do our best um can you
00:22talk crap about tyler since he's not here um no contractually no uh it's very funny because
00:29of all of the bands we've had the opportunity to chat with over the years we always thoroughly
00:33enjoy sitting down with the both of you because a lot of times you guys just go back and forth and
00:36we can just sit back and watch you guys go out go at it and then we can sit and go that's our time
00:40and we go all right i know now we have to put an effort now we're gonna actually work for this one
00:44but it's a pleasure talking first of all happy belated birthday i know this was the week of
00:47your birthday how did you celebrate um i played drums actually uh yeah it was perfect i i played
00:54drums i boxed um and i ate cookies it's a perfect day what's the goat yeah i mean there's uh uh it
01:03was it was like there was some sugar cookies with like some stuff whatever the thing is on like the
01:09icing and some oreo cookie there was actually a lot of cookies i had too many cookies that's why i had a
01:14box got to work out all those cookies box and drum yeah yeah all off less about balance it's all about
01:19that balance and i've seen you backstage right before you guys have gone out i think that was a few
01:23years back at k-rock's almost acoustic christmas but even to watch up until the last second even
01:28till the second before you even go on the stage you are still doing some sort of cardio i've seen
01:32it happen it's wild to watch you've done more in the 11 seconds before you go on stage than i've done
01:36in the last decade well yeah i think that um i don't know i think i always just want to make sure
01:44that i can try and perform that show as you know this this thing that i did when we kind of like
01:51wrote the songs and start and we're playing them in the early days and you know life life catches up
01:58with you and i want to i want to you know try my best to stay on top of it but you know who knows
02:03well i think you were doing the backflip off the piano way before benson boone i feel like he gets
02:07all the credit and it's like oh he's doing all these backflips but now that you're on tour again
02:11are you going to one-up benson are you going to do something else are you training for that
02:15maybe a double backflip yeah nice he's definitely i could tell that he um he knows what he's doing
02:21way more than me i literally like when it was probably 2012 and we're like getting ready to
02:28play a show and they it was like in a gymnasium that had like mats like um you know whatever it
02:34is like gymnastic mats and we were bored and i was like i'm gonna try and do a backflip off the stage
02:39and uh you know like tyler and our buddy mark was there and helping spot me and stuff and i landed
02:45it and then i remember just being like i'm i'm just gonna try and do this in the show and we kind
02:50of like worked it into a song uh but i could tell that i could tell benson boone's been been you know
02:55he's he knows what he's he knows the like the technicalities of it way more than me yeah i'm
03:01definitely primed to get hurt probably more than right yeah we've got already bets the new tour will
03:05they survive with unscathed and then of course new music and we get into all of that but uh
03:10it's it's actually so exciting for us to you know ali and i have always joked for the longest time
03:15about every time you go to guitar center they try to tell you about their band the guy with the
03:19ponytails okay we're playing a little show i think that 21 pods may be the most successful story that
03:24has ever started at a guitar center right i mean of all of the bands is there any other band that's as
03:29big as you guys that started with two people meeting through guitar center um man i don't know to be
03:34honest um yeah i mean i was working there and uh actually the guy our buddy chris um he was playing
03:42drums with tyler at the time and he was working at guitar center and i met i got i kind of met tyler
03:48through him because he and i were friends and um and chris and i are still me chris and tyler are all
03:55still close um but yeah i mean yeah that's kind of where it started really and um yeah yeah i love it
04:02one of my favorite jobs too it's great can you still get an employee discount i don't think so
04:07i haven't been in in a little while but um maybe if i throw out my uh employee id maybe they'll maybe
04:14they'll hook me up what's crazy about it is that's where it all began and then here we are now and
04:18your most recent um you know song of the contract was i believe the biggest single in your entire
04:25career which means that i would imagine whenever there's time between albums or songs you go like
04:30do we still have it you have to ask yourself that and then for it to go even bigger than anything
04:34you've done before and that's heathens and all the monster hits that have been released that's
04:38going to make you feel pretty good well yeah i mean you're dead on with that i think yeah any time
04:45we put out something new i'm kind of just like man people are over it it's like people are kind of
04:51like okay we get it um we've heard enough and so yeah it is i think um yeah seeing seeing people
05:00enjoying it and people listening to it um it it makes me really happy uh i wanted to get your
05:06opinion on something that we were talking about on the show um i think climb we were talking about
05:10this off the air but sabrina carpenter was talking about concerts that shows and how um phones that
05:14shows and how she there should be more concerts without any cell phones and as you guys embark on
05:20this new tour um breach and the clancy tour do you feel like you agree with that i know that phones are
05:26such a big part of everyone's concert experience now but maybe she's got a point
05:30yeah there are definitely like you know comedians will will tour and say no phones and you know they
05:37have even like bags you got to lock your phone up in so you can't record it which makes sense
05:42um i do think in our early days we relied on people posting videos and photos from our show and
05:49you know kind of like spread the word a little bit and um you know things things are different than
05:55they were for us which i'm very i'm very grateful for but at the same time i i personally can't get
06:01rid of like some of the old like feelings that i had like when we're not on tour uh i'm always just
06:06kind of like the band is just doing nothing now it's just it's just failing because we're not playing
06:11shows and because that was our mindset early early on um with the phones i do think yeah it can be it
06:19can there are two sides of it there is uh one where it's kind of like how many how many times have you
06:25taken a video or a photo of fireworks at the 4th of july and then it's just like when like do you
06:30watch the fireworks back like how how many videos that are on your phone or of fireworks that you
06:36actually go and watch or show your friends like look at this uh so part of me is kind of like it's
06:41a similar thing where it's just like i'm taking this because i feel like i should uh because it's
06:46like it's a memory i guess that that is cool or would be cool uh but like it realistically am i
06:53going to go back and watch these these videos or have these photos from this show um some people
06:59maybe but i think it might be close to the fireworks yeah but think about it if you land
07:03that double backflip and no one's there to you know capture that on their phone then why even
07:07bother doing the double backflip or did it even happen right it even happened that's the question
07:11yeah and some people might have been getting like a drink or popcorn or something and their buddy
07:16you know filmed it and can show them so yeah you know i think the cell phones should stay
07:20um but you know maybe maybe everyone just space it out everyone communicate with each other and
07:27you know there's like some this person's like i got this song i'll film it and then airdrop it
07:32to all of you guys you get the next time so there's just one phone at a time i know there we go
07:36for me it's the guy in front of me is always taking a way better video than i am i'm like can i
07:40just have that yeah give me that one yeah well the bmo the bmo stadium show uh bmo stadium show
07:46sold out instantly right so then they've you guys have announced a second show and that's always
07:51very exciting those tickets pre-sale today at 10 a.m and then general public tomorrow at 10 a.m
07:56through ticketmaster when you sell out a show instantly that's always the goal uh do you know
08:01like when you think you maybe have a night off and you're like oh that's cool do the show la then i
08:05have a night off and then they go well good news it sold so quickly we're gonna do another show
08:08it's bittersweet right i mean you got to be happy that so many more people want to see you but
08:12also you're kind of like oh man that was my pickleball day yeah yeah no there is some truth
08:18to that i think um i mean we've always loved playing in la so i will say um and also you know
08:27it's rare that we play a stadium so i think it's man it's it's gonna be special i think both nights
08:33will be special i will have to forego the pickleball night um bummer which which is tough but um we'll
08:40just have to push it to the next night i think but no it's it's awesome man i i you know like i
08:45said we we started i mean i started out i started off just playing drums and guitar center and then
08:51tyler and i have we've played show we played a show for two people on time uh but in our minds we
08:57played it to bmo stadium sold out and now the time has come and what's crazy is ali the first time
09:02we introduced 21 pilots on stage to a group of people that would they were not even playing the
09:06main stage they were playing the god yeah what year was that was like 2014 or something like that
09:12but i mean that's crazy to think now that they're still taking our calls after all these years but
09:16greatly appreciate josh dunn is on krock now why do you believe because you have to that this album
09:21that will be coming out in september is your best album ever um i guess it's kind of just like
09:29it just it kind of i guess the real answer is just it is yes but i think that um i mean in theory
09:37you know i i just kind of had this thing since i was really since i graduated high school i was kind
09:44of just like um high school sucked i want life to be better than that i just i personally didn't like
09:52high school and so i was kind of just like man i always just i want to get better as a person
09:56and a musician and um we should always be growing at some point there's a plateau and i might be now
10:04but i don't i think that like in this moment thanks that's we're a part of your plateau great great
10:10well not now but it probably would have been uh it'll it'll be after this phone call right yeah later
10:17you're not part of it um uh but yeah i don't know i think like there's there there's a lot of data
10:25collected through touring and playing shows and putting out albums and seeing people's responses
10:30um that you just don't have in the early days and i think that it's like hopefully collecting the
10:37right data to create the right songs and put together the right set list to play a show um
10:45and and and just making something that that we love that you know that the people really love
10:52so i think it'd be i think it'll be our best album now you heard it here breach will be the best album
10:58in the history of tournament pilots out in september yeah do you ever ask uh debbie's opinion if you're
11:02not sure about a song and she listens and she's like guys this is trash or like hey this is great
11:07but i think a lot of times like she'll you know because like yeah tyler and i'll send stuff back and
11:13forth and work on a song for a while and really push it down the field and sometimes just be a
11:18little bit um i don't know just feel like maybe it's maybe it's not great and and debbie is kind
11:28of one that's just like she she's singing it all day in the house and it's encouraging and so i'm kind
11:33of just like all right maybe maybe it's yeah maybe maybe we like it maybe it's cool maybe we push
11:39when we fight for it a little bit but um yeah she she does she's she's um but she's yeah she's
11:46very encouraging she likes my band so that's a good that's important josh don of 21 pilots our
11:50favorite half of 21 pilots is on with us right now we're not supposed to say that publicly but
11:54what the hell we're chatting about the new album the new tour we've got tickets to give you the just
11:58added second date which will go on sale pre-sale 10 a.m today ticket master that will sell out as
12:02well so i would get them while you can if you don't win them from us as always we like to wrap up
12:06any chat on krock with not one but two epic questions questions so epic that they need
12:11their own theme song to get to and we have josh don of 21 pilots ali what is epic question number
12:16one for josh all right josh if you ever boxed professionally name one ass you know you could
12:21kick oh man uh i will preface with just saying that i uh i box for fun and to and to just kind
12:32of train and it is a it's a it's a very similar cardio uh workout to um our show so that's kind
12:41of why i started it so i'm not you know i'm not in it to beat anybody up but um i guess i would say
12:49my my dog i know i know i know i know i could wow that's messed up you know you could kick your
12:55dog's ass yeah you know it's messed up but it's true it is true all right uh what did jim ever do to
13:00you to make you say that you would kick his ass that's so bad poor dog uh epic question number two
13:06everyone talks about how smart people are using ai all the time chat chat gpt etc what is the dumbest
13:12thing you've used ai or chat gpt for um i don't really use it i i don't don't use it too much and
13:20you know now i yeah i realize that that's a that can be a hot button topic now uh but there was um
13:29yeah i was my brother was over and we were watching uh you know tv show late and late and
13:36you know we would just rile each other up be like let's keep watching
13:39and eventually i was like i'll do one if i can have a another bag of popcorn and he asked gpt chat gpt if
13:48i could if i could if it if i could or if it was smart and um basically basically said that i could
13:56as long as i don't just keep on all night eating the popcorn yeah i found that chat gpt is very
14:03validating yeah just like sure go for it using ai yeah no we don't use it for the right reason
14:08bob you'll be happy to know by the way we just had cheech on cheech and chong cheech claimed that
14:12he believes popcorn is the greatest munchie food ever and that's a cheech of cheech and chong so
14:16you're in good company there okay well yeah i mean i that's i'm i'm kind of right there too
14:21i do think it is um it's kind of perfect it's mostly air so you can't can't argue with that
14:26guys uh you know 21 pilots uh we've been supporting you for a very very long time i would like to say
14:32since just after your guitar center days uh pleasure to have you back on with us on k-rock
14:37congratulations ahead of time on the new album hopefully you can get to the studio in september
14:41when the album drops of course breach and then uh right now you've got the clancy tour which is
14:46going to be happening a new date was just added get the pre-sale tickets while you can 10 a.m uh
14:51and then tomorrow for the general public and we've got a pair to give you right now as always josh
14:56pleasure to chat with you again on k-rock thanks for being on happy birthday all that good stuff
14:59oh thank you guys and it is always great to talk to you so i appreciate it thanks josh great josh
15:05thank you very much thanks josh
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