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He's baaaaack! Televangelist Kenneth Copeland struggles to defend his use of a private jet (again)
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00:00I got sent a link to this interview a couple of times yesterday and very glad that I did
00:06because one of our all-time favorite televangelists, Kenneth Copeland.
00:10Kenneth Copeland.
00:11Is talking about his luxury private jets once again.
00:15Now, in his defense, he was approached and asked.
00:19He isn't, this wasn't him pleading for help to get new planes.
00:23The first time we became aware of him was his own pitch to get money
00:28because the Lord said he cannot travel commercial.
00:32Correct.
00:32Because he would be distracted by people.
00:36When he is trying to perfect his sermon,
00:39he was being distracted by the human filth that tends to travel commercial.
00:44He called them demons.
00:45Yeah, he called them demons.
00:48Let's play a little bit of this.
00:49We'd just like to ask you about why you don't want to fly commercial.
00:52Why have you said that you won't fly commercial?
00:55You said that it's like getting into a tube with a bunch of demons.
00:58Why do you think that?
00:59No, listen to me just a second.
01:01Of course.
01:02Not the people.
01:04The main reason is because of the need.
01:10If I flew commercial, I'd have to stop 65% of what I'm doing.
01:15That's really the main reason.
01:16He worked out the numbers.
01:17And I've done the math, and it comes, demons, the scum, customs, finding parking.
01:28If I'm being honest, it comes out to 64.3%.
01:32And I don't have to deal with that.
01:37And then, of course, they load the handicapped people.
01:40And dear God, that is.
01:44Listen, God bless you.
01:45I know that the Lord has visited this upon you and your sicknesses and your make-a-wish
01:49and all that nonsense.
01:52But I've got to get out and preach the word of the Lord and talk about compassion.
01:55So you may have seen me step on over someone in a wheelchair.
02:00Or push slobber on their mouths.
02:02Oh, my God.
02:02Sometimes they sit there, and I don't know what.
02:04Maybe it's the foaming medication on their mouths or whatever.
02:08And, of course, you hear the story over there in dire need of this cooler has a human heart
02:14in it and we need to load this first and all that hokum and bunk.
02:18So the make-a-wish kid's getting your way, too.
02:20Oh, my God.
02:21My wish is that they go away.
02:27You can hear him think through his words about what he's going to say.
02:31You are so right.
02:32You can almost hear the gears because he's...
02:34Oh, and...
02:36All right, Jesus, give me a good lie.
02:39Give me a good lie.
02:40By the way, in a moment here, he says something like,
02:42I have to pray on that.
02:43That is there.
02:44Yeah.
02:45I can't think of what to say right now.
02:46I have to pray on it.
02:48Isn't it true that you want to fly commercials so that you can fly in luxury?
02:52How much money did you pay for Tyler Perry's Gulfstream jet, for example?
02:57Well, for example, that's really none of your business, but...
03:00Isn't it the business of your donors?
03:01Listen, I paid.
03:08You kind of caught me off guard here, okay?
03:10Yes, sir.
03:11Okay, God bless you.
03:12God bless you.
03:13You're a sweetheart.
03:14But if I could, without the cameras on, I would punch every last goddamn tooth right
03:19out of your head.
03:19I think...
03:20No, I didn't watch the whole thing, but he ends up calling her baby a lot.
03:23Oh, dear.
03:24During this interview.
03:24Which is really the image you want, baby.
03:28Let me tell you something, toots.
03:31Toots.
03:31Toots.
03:32Listen, I didn't come here to get assaulted by some walking gash.
03:38Oh, my God.
03:39Oh, wow.
03:40Oh, my God.
03:40So, why don't you...
03:41Yeah, but he is clearly goes from...
03:45He's got the smile.
03:46Yes.
03:47But he gets angry.
03:48But...
03:48And here...
03:49So, he could have deflected...
03:51He could have gone to what he probably wants to say, which is, it was paid by donors and
03:55by people who believe that I need this.
03:57Because that's where all this money is coming from.
03:59She's trying to say, isn't that a little bit outlandish?
04:01Does anyone know, by the way, how much that Tyler Perry jet went for?
04:04Not enough.
04:05I don't know.
04:05We can look it up, but...
04:07Listen, you're not supposed to judge a book by its cover, but this guy just looks evil.
04:11He looks...
04:12Oh, I know.
04:13Like evil demon and just dressed, you know, like classic movie...
04:17If you were to play a lying, you know, Jimmy Swaggart-ish preacher, this is what this dude
04:26looks like.
04:26Yeah, yeah.
04:26And he's dressed to the nines.
04:28I mean, he's actually...
04:29It's full on.
04:30It's as luxurious as you can get.
04:31Let me continue on.
04:32Right here, I'd like to give you a chance to catch your breath and have a conversation.
04:37We don't want to catch you off guard.
04:38I love Inside Edition.
04:40You got to get this now.
04:41Hey, you listening to me?
04:43My wife thinks Inside Edition is...
04:45Oh, yeah.
04:47What does that mean?
04:48I don't know.
04:49Thank you, Lord.
04:50Help me.
04:51Let me pray.
04:52The piece you did on Mario Lopez was so insightful in his portrayal of a Slater on a Saved by
05:02the Bell.
05:03And in a way, we're all saved by the bell.
05:06Like when they ring that bell to tell you that the flight is boarding, you got to push
05:10that Make-A-Wish kids out of the way and step on the heads of the sick people to get aboard
05:15a flight.
05:16That's not right.
05:16A really simple question.
05:18A lot of people think it's unbecoming for a preacher to live a life of luxury and to
05:24fly around in private jets.
05:25What's your response to that?
05:28Very simple.
05:30It takes a lot of money to do what we do.
05:33It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken.
05:36She stole that from Purdue.
05:37We have brought over 100, let's see, the latest figures just came out, 122 million people
05:49to the Lord Jesus Christ.
05:50Is somebody feeding him?
05:52Oh, yeah, yeah.
05:52Somebody sitting next to him.
05:53Say this.
05:54I was scheduled for Lagos, Nigeria.
05:59That's a long ways.
06:02I had a week off and I was scheduled for Peru.
06:09Who's making that schedule?
06:11He is.
06:12Yeah, exactly.
06:12And I prayed about it and I thought, I'm not missing that dedication in Jerusalem without
06:19the airplane that we have that I bought from Tyler Perry and I didn't pay anywhere.
06:24And Tyler's one of the greatest guys.
06:26He made it.
06:27He plays that Madea character.
06:29Did you see Boo and Boo 2?
06:32They were a hoot.
06:33He made that airplane so cheap.
06:35It looks like this big old black lady in a dress and it's just so funny.
06:39She says the darndest things.
06:41Well, this part where he stalls and distracts by talking about Tyler Perry is really, it's
06:45infuriating.
06:46Hey, look over there.
06:47It's the Westminster Dog Show.
06:49Help but buy it.
06:51Well, my question then, well, okay, all right, but I want to get to the demons because people
06:55are very concerned about that comment.
06:57Give me a chance here inside of this.
06:59I love your eyes.
07:00Oh, my God.
07:02I love your eyes.
07:03Oh, I love your eyes.
07:05Yeah, yeah.
07:05And I hate to tell you this, but you're nipping big time.
07:07He's feeding into it.
07:12You would figure that a guy like this would have a better off-the-cuff rap, you know?
07:18Yeah, but I guess they're seldom confronted this way.
07:22Yeah, exactly.
07:23Yeah.
07:23And he's got his captive audience and knows exactly usually what he's going to tell these
07:27people.
07:28So he's not put to task this way.
07:31He gets away with it.
07:31If you're just tuning in, it's Kenneth Copeland.
07:34I got a lot of people texting in and saying who is this, the guy, the televangelist who
07:37has bought all these jets over the years.
07:39Actually, he hasn't bought them.
07:40Please, Preston, you see all these jets.
07:42It's just fine.
07:43Yeah, that's it.
07:44And by the way, it's a $54 million jet.
07:48This was, I think that was the last one that he was asking for when he sat down with
07:53Jesse Duplantis, the other guy.
07:54The other guy, my friend, yeah.
07:56Because we both do the Lord's work.
07:58Yeah.
07:58All right.
07:59Here we go.
07:59And here's what happened.
08:02All right.
08:02What happened?
08:04We flew in 21 days.
08:08I'm trying to think.
08:1070 hours.
08:1270.
08:1240,000 miles, touched five continents, and preached face-to-face, personally, with 125,000
08:26people.
08:27Do you ever do that?
08:29I hate his voice.
08:31125,000 people.
08:32Now, we went to that Lego place, and there were no Legos there.
08:38So, that's an issue that they ain't even up to a toy.
08:42I show up, and there's not any toys there at all.
08:46But 125,000 people for that amount of travel is not an impressive figure.
08:51I mean, you go to some of these churches and some of these places out, like in Texas, they'll
08:56hold 20, 30,000.
08:58I mean, they go play stadiums.
09:00Yeah.
09:00Joel Alstine has that whole gigantic stadium.
09:03Do you ever use your private jets to go visit your vacation homes, for example?
09:10Again, getting back to the comment, you said that you don't like to fly commercial because
09:15you don't want to get into a tube with a bunch of demons.
09:18Do you really believe that human beings are demons?
09:21No, I do not.
09:22And don't you ever say I did.
09:23He starts getting mad.
09:24Yeah.
09:25Pointing.
09:25Yep.
09:26We wrestle not with flesh and blood, but principalities and powers.
09:32Can you explain what you meant by...
09:34I don't know what that means.
09:35It's actually written on the inside of my shirt here.
09:38It sounds impressive.
09:39It says, in case of danger, say this.
09:43That, that, by that term...
09:44In the great halls of the gods and cherubs and seraphim, you will find a votive candle
09:50unto you.
09:52What does that mean?
09:52I don't know.
09:53I'm just trying to stop flying commercial, damn it.
09:56That, by that term, then.
09:57Just, just explain, because it's really simple.
09:59You said you didn't want to get into a tube with a bunch of demons.
10:01What did you mean?
10:03The, well, let me ask you.
10:05Do you think that people that fly commercial are demons?
10:08Yes, I do.
10:08Give me a chance to talk.
10:09I do.
10:10I really do.
10:10Because it's a bunch of nonsense.
10:12But, we're talking the scum of the earth, the flying commercial.
10:16Have you ever been on a fly with the kid kicking the back of your seat?
10:20There's a Joe Bob off to the left of me sucking on some piece of jerky.
10:23That ain't no way to live.
10:25Well, what about first class?
10:26Isn't that good enough?
10:26It's still not good enough.
10:27No?
10:27I don't want to be sitting next to some reality stars.
10:31You know, some Vanderpump chick.
10:35I got the Lord's work to do.
10:37That's right.
10:37Absolutely.
10:38I mean, at this point, just own up to it and take your private jet and go preach and do
10:43what you got to do.
10:43But, like, you're just lying about why you're getting on a private jet.
10:46It's not going to matter to the people who are donating, because they're already suckered
10:50in.
10:50But, he should just be able to say, by the way, I just want the money, and I really like
10:54to fly in style.
10:55Look at the car I'm driving.
10:56What did you drive up here in a Prius?
10:58So, who's winning this match?
11:00I think he eventually starts to justify the luxury in this, that the Bible says that it's
11:05okay.
11:05But, let me continue on here.
11:07Oh, sweetheart, I'll explain this.
11:08Sweetheart.
11:09But, it's a biblical thing.
11:10It's a spiritual thing.
11:11Here we go.
11:11It doesn't have anything to do with people.
11:14The Bible is not about people.
11:16Oh, my God, I hate this, too.
11:17It's not about humanity and love and compassion and generosity.
11:21I don't know what edition you're reading.
11:24God, who are his followers?
11:26I'm saying, man.
11:28Dear God.
11:29What happens is, is that a lot of, you know, there are some legitimately good, you know,
11:35people out there that do the Lord's work and do this sort of stuff.
11:38But, there are so many people over generations have been ushered along and know nothing but
11:45these kind of preachers.
11:46Yeah, I guess.
11:47Yep, that were brought into this type of thing.
11:51And, they think they're doing the right thing.
11:53And, that if they don't follow someone like this, they're doing the wrong thing.
11:57But, the most miserable person in the world is someone who preys upon someone's genuine
12:02desire to be good and do good and benefit off that.
12:05Here we go.
12:06People, I love people.
12:09Jesus loves people.
12:10I just don't like them when I'm flying.
12:13And, I swear to God, and I say this in all sincerity, if Jesus was in front of me, I'd push him out of the way.
12:18But, people get pushed in alcohol.
12:24Do you think that's a good place for a preacher to be and prepare to go preach to a lot of people
12:31when somebody in there is dragging some woman down an aisle?
12:35It made me so mad to see that on television.
12:37I wanted to punch the guy out myself.
12:39I can't be doing that while I'm getting ready to preach.
12:42I don't want to see that nonsense.
12:43He is saying exactly what a preacher, you would want to intercede, wouldn't you want to say, let me help.
12:49You'd want to minister to those in need.
12:52Exactly.
12:52You'd want to be amongst the people.
12:54Yeah.
12:54Keep him away.
12:55Keep him away.
12:56Seriously, man.
12:57Look at this manicure.
12:58You know how much I spent on this?
12:59And, you mean I've got to wrangle some dumbass in the aisle of a plane?
13:03Yeah.
13:03It's just not going to happen.
13:05So, you just don't like to be around the sinful people or the hurtful people.
13:08Is that what you're saying?
13:09Not the people, baby.
13:11Not the people.
13:12Baby.
13:13That lady on that one.
13:14Oh.
13:15He's trying to think of what to say here.
13:17Big pause.
13:18Back.
13:20Hugh.
13:21You're so Hugh.
13:23Yeah.
13:24Back during the days that we couldn't do anything else, we had to travel commercial.
13:30We couldn't do anything else.
13:32You know, even Jesus and Moses and all the apostles, they all travel commercial.
13:36I understand.
13:38Back in the day, what is he saying?
13:41I've, when I went to Oral Roberts University, I flew for Oral Roberts.
13:46I'm a commercial pilot.
13:48Is he?
13:49I guess.
13:49I'm an airplane.
13:50You have how many planes?
13:52We have the Gulf Stream, and we still have our Citation Team.
13:58And then we have a little small airplane.
14:00Then about four or five other ones, and an aircraft carrier.
14:05But don't use it.
14:07I mean, it's not like we fly off that.
14:09We just take that out, you know, for swimming purposes.
14:11I got a submarine, and I got a space shuttle, and I also own a couple of planets.
14:19You have a submarine.
14:20And I have slaves.
14:21Oh.
14:21Oh, jeez.
14:22That's not legal anymore, man.
14:24Now, Nick, and I know you're a God-fearing man, and I want to say, I think you're misinterpreting
14:30the Bible.
14:31You said you owned slaves.
14:32Well, yes, I did say that.
14:36Hey, look over there.
14:40All the time.
14:42And other people use them, too.
14:44We have other ministries that use these.
14:46In the book of Ephesians.
14:48Oh, here we go.
14:49Oh, God, I love this.
14:50In the book of what?
14:51God, I love this.
14:52Ephesians, I think.
14:53In the book of, yeah.
14:55Fiji's, Fiji Waters.
14:56Yeah, in the book of Fiji's.
14:59Absolutely, man.
15:00In the book, there's a wonderful book called Goosebumps.
15:03And in the book Goosebumps, they got this fellow who looks like a mummy, and he's scaring
15:09the children awful bad, but Jesus comes into their hearts and says that I should have a
15:13jet.
15:14Irma Gerd.
15:15Irma Gerd.
15:15Irma Gerd.
15:18How many people work for this clown?
15:20Well, work is a vague term there, Casey, because many of my slaves do not work.
15:28They don't work a day in their life.
15:30No, they don't.
15:31If you love what you do, then you never work a day in your life unless you're being held
15:35in captivity.
15:36All right, here's his quote again.
15:38In the book of Ephesians.
15:40Ephesians.
15:41Oh, God, I love this.
15:42Now, by the way, at this point, he's holding her hand, and he's praying.
15:46Okay.
15:47Yeah.
15:47Oh, my God.
15:47We wrestle not with people, but with principalities.
15:54Didn't he already say that?
15:55Yeah, yeah.
15:55And powers.
15:56It's the one quote he knows.
15:57Unseen things.
16:01Rulers of the darkness of this world.
16:04What's that?
16:05It's like Kingpin when they did the barn raise.
16:07You know what the Bible says about it?
16:08I remember that.
16:09It's against it.
16:10Talking about the devil.
16:13He's a very real devil.
16:14Just the same as Jesus is very real.
16:17Let me tell you something about the devil.
16:18He flies commercial.
16:19Yeah.
16:20Yeah, it's a devil.
16:21That's right.
16:21His former hell is getting on a commercial flight.
16:24And I spent a lot of time on airlines, but the main thing that happened was not, that wasn't
16:34the main reason.
16:36The main reason was I could no longer do what I called to do and be on the airlines.
16:46Besides that, I need my clothes when I get there.
16:48Oh, my God.
16:51So rather than risk his luggage being lost, he buys a Gulfstream jet.
16:59The idea that pops into his head that's like, oh, listen.
17:03Okay, besides that.
17:04So I'm over there in Lego or wherever it was.
17:08Yeah.
17:09Or Stretch Armstrong or wherever it was.
17:10Duplo.
17:11Duplo.
17:12And I didn't have my underwears.
17:14I never made it to the location.
17:17And I was there.
17:17I was going commando.
17:19And my bits were dangling as I was trying to deliver the word of the Lord.
17:22And I felt uncomfortable.
17:23I felt impure and disgusting.
17:26All right.
17:26And you have some fancy clothes.
17:28I mean, for a pastor, you are living a life of luxury.
17:32You've got great homes.
17:33You've got great planes.
17:35You drive in limos.
17:37I'm a very wealthy man.
17:38You're a very wealthy man.
17:39Yes.
17:40Yeah.
17:40And some people would say that, is it appreciated?
17:43May I add something to that?
17:45Yeah.
17:46My wealth doesn't come from offerings alone.
17:51Alone.
17:51Because you sell things, books and DVDs.
17:54Yes.
17:54And I have a lot of natural gas on our property.
17:57Excuse me.
17:58I have a lot of natural gas.
18:00I fly in a pressurized situation and it tends to make me fart.
18:04No, I remember us talking about, the last time we talked about him, because he has got like
18:08a mini airport on one of his properties and they've leased out some of that land for natural
18:13gas rights.
18:15And so they've made, for the ministry and for Kenneth Copeland, they've made a butt ton
18:19of money that way.
18:20All right.
18:20Didn't know that, did you, babe?
18:22No, I do.
18:22Come on, babe.
18:23Yeah, babe.
18:24Didn't know that, did you, babe?
18:25Sit on daddy's lap.
18:26Yeah.
18:26Could you imagine Jesus?
18:27Yeah, how about that, baby?
18:28Please, I really hope that there is some sort of expose, documentary in the works, you know,
18:38kind of like what they're doing with Scientology.
18:42I just.
18:42Well, the more of this stuff, listen, but the truth of the matter is, is that, you know,
18:48Swaggart was caught banging hookers in a, in a, like a motel.
18:54It didn't matter.
18:55He came back and built up his ministry again.
18:59I saw a commercial for it over the weekend and, and it, and so it is what it is.
19:04And these, these guys, you know, this guy, well, you only hope that on the other end
19:09of his journey, he gets, he gets what's coming to him.
19:12I, you know what I'd be more interested in Casey, uh, than an expose and a documentary
19:17on, and there are several people that, that, that do this type of thing, but the devout
19:23people, despite hearing and knowing the evidence that shows, this is not an, and it's not a
19:30genuine person at all, how they blindly continue to defend and, and support.
19:36And I would like to see those people.
19:38I mean, listen, it's all of it.
19:39You know, I send my kids to Catholic school and, you know, Lord knows that, uh, that there's
19:44a lot of stuff going on there.
19:46Um, uh, but this is another, this is a holy other, this is so outlandish.
19:52So, you know, there's, and you can't even make it a judgment that way, you know, because
19:56there's a lot of good that's done.
19:57Well, that's the, that's the thing.
19:58There's a lot of good that's done.
19:59And, and, and, you know, and, and if someone, if someone, I feel bad for the people and they
20:05don't need my pity, but who are, um, who are being taken advantage of while this guy
20:10who are trying to rub two cents together and are giving one of those cents to this dickhead
20:14so that he can fly around in, in, in the lap of luxury is just disgusting.
20:19Yeah.
20:19But while, while this clearly the people to blame are the ones that are, that are, you
20:23know, pulling the scam, I still, at some point you got to go, really, you're too stupid to
20:28see that.
20:28I'm, I'm, I feel sorry for you.
20:30I have less.
20:31I, I, I, I feel legitimately compassionately sorry for those people.
20:35And I feel my, the bulk, the 99.9% of my anger is at this individual and not the people who
20:42are ponying up.
20:43I have to say, I'm impressed by Lisa Guerrero.
20:45I mean, she's, this reporter didn't back down.
20:48She, she held her ground when he was pandering to her and insulting her and calling her babe
20:52and, and, you know, the things that she was saying.
20:53And she didn't, and she followed up with legit questions without getting angry or taking any
20:57of it personally.
20:58A smart reporter in that situation through their head is going, I'm getting gold right now.
21:02Yeah.
21:02Let him talk.
21:03Just go for it, man.
21:04Let this idiot talk and, uh, and dig his own grave.
21:07I'll play just a little bit more and then we got to take a break because there's, there's
21:09another five minutes of this left.
21:11Yeah, you do.
21:11Yeah.
21:12Isn't that wonderful?
21:13Well, I guess.
21:14Yeah.
21:14It's wonderful for you.
21:16Back when, and I might add another thing too, we invest from, uh.
21:25He has, he has nothing to say.
21:27I know.
21:28He has nothing to say.
21:29You would figure with the rap, he would have something at the ready when people pose these
21:34obvious questions to him.
21:36Like, where are you getting all your money?
21:38Why are you wearing, you know, $15,000, $2,000 suits?
21:42Yeah.
21:42Uh, $1,500, $2,000 suits.
21:44Why are you driving around in an armored limo?
21:46Yeah.
21:47I don't know the exact number on last year yet, but it will run something in the neighborhood
21:53of 20, 25 million in the poor.
21:57In the poor.
21:58Can't do that and be broke.
22:00So, final question is, a lot of people maybe have a misunderstanding then about what you
22:05do in prosperity preaching.
22:06So, the final question is this.
22:09To those critics that say that a preacher should not be living a life of luxury, what
22:15is your response to that?
22:17They're wrong.
22:21Okay.
22:21That's it?
22:22That, it's a misunderstanding.
22:25They're really wrong.
22:27Let me expand on that.
22:30They're really, really, really wrong.
22:32Of the Bible.
22:35That, if you go into the old covenant, do you think the Jewish people believe you should
22:43be broke?
22:46Are you saying that Jewish people appreciate money more than real?
22:51They believe in wealth.
22:53Some people would find that offensive.
22:55Wait a minute now.
22:56Talk more about the Jews, Cam.
22:58You know about the Jews, don't you?
23:00No, no, keep going.
23:01Let me tell you something.
23:02And let me tell you something about the Irish folk.
23:04They love the hooch.
23:07I'm not talking about some people.
23:09I'm talking about the Bible.
23:11The blessing of Abraham.
23:13Abraham was extremely wealthy, and he had a covenant with God.
23:20It's not the Jewish blessing.
23:22It's the Abrahamic blessing.
23:25God, I get excited talking about it because I love it.
23:27And I started out.
23:28I'm pitching a religious tent in my pants.
23:31It's a revival.
23:33It's a revival happening right in my shorts.
23:35It's unbelievable.
23:36A taint just went up, and the congregations are ready for activity because I'm talking about
23:40the sperm.
23:41You have a massive erection.
23:43Deep in debt with nothing, which is another story.
23:47But anyway.
23:49He is trying so hard to deflect.
23:51Oh, yes, he is.
23:52So hard, and she won't stop.
23:53Anyway, we got to take a break.
23:55But that's just, every time this guy gets on camera.
23:59It's gold.
24:00It's just, you just can't believe it.
24:03Nick pulled up a listing that he is in, his wealth is over $700 million.
24:08Number one.
24:09Number one of televangelists?
24:10Yes.
24:10That's $700 million.
24:15Does he have television programming that runs constantly or something?
24:19Yeah.
24:19I don't know.
24:20He does, apparently.
24:22But, I mean, wow.
24:24I didn't realize.
24:25$700 million.
24:26You could share up a nice chunk of that and take care of a whole bunch of poor people.
24:30Or buy more jets.
24:31Yeah.
24:32Listen.
24:33I would like to know.
24:33That's an idea.
24:35Yeah.
24:35I'd like to know how much of his wealth goes into.
24:39Not a lot.
24:39Okay.
24:40But I'm currently building a worldwide monorail system.
24:44Okay.
24:45And it's a monorail that has just two seats, the pilot seat and mine.
24:50Here's one of the biggest houses I ever saw was outside of Atlanta.
24:54You know what?
24:54And I think it was, it might have been Tyler Perry's old house.
24:57Yes.
24:57He sold to a televangelist.
24:59By the way, somebody texted and said, there's an Instagram account that highlights preachers
25:03who wear wicked expensive clothes.
25:05It's called Preachers and Sneakers.
25:07Shows modern day Instagram influencer PR.
25:10So, that might be worth looking into.
25:12All right.
25:12Interesting.
25:14He's at it again.
25:15He sure is.
25:16And that is Kenneth Copeland.
25:19But God bless him.
25:20God bless you.
25:21God bless you.
25:21Thank you so much for coming up and asking me these questions and showing me that I really
25:27don't know what the F I'm talking about.
25:29Exactly.
25:29Exactly.
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