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ROAR Around the Ring: January 17, 2024
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00:00what's going on he's that dude daryl teeler i'm justin valentine tony khan acting up on social
00:05media how big of a deal is it really though and a lot going on in wrestling last saturday night
00:11nothing to do with wwe or aew it's time to roar around the ring
00:16who knew jinder mahal getting a title shot would cause so much hell on social media great jinder
00:25mahal the great jinder mahal the most over wrestler of 2024 in the first couple months yes he's uh
00:31he's got the year on lock so far he's got i mean so far wrestler of the year leading candidate
00:36jinder mahal uh he said it on raw the most talked about wrestler in the industry uh that would be
00:42because of mr tony khan who was not too happy about the lack of hate i guess you could say
00:48uh that jinder mahal got a world title shot against seth ryan's last monday night on raw
00:53compared to the hate that the decision to give hook a world title shot against samoa joe is
01:00getting over in aew uh tony khan would tweet this out talk about how does this make any sense and it
01:07was all of course as he does and he has in the past to promote hey by the way watch aw dynamite
01:12on wednesday night what'd you make of this of tony khan going to social media and doing this
01:17it's funny that you say tony khan complaining about things not making sense so i don't know but
01:24you know it's okay well there's there's justification for people having an issue with
01:29hook getting a title shot right yeah i mean i i was one person that said like i'm fine with it i don't
01:34hate it i don't put any like real seriousness behind it i don't need this big extended feud between
01:40him and samoa joe and like that i think a lot of us can mutually agree of who we want joe to face
01:44in a big feud yeah jinder mahal one whether you liked him whether you like him and not or not now
01:51or liked him during his brief run as champion is irrelevant the guy has been a mainstay in the
01:55company he's is a former champion he's faced former big names randy orton being the main one who he beat
02:01for the title this isn't just some guy that was like hey he's been in the company for x amount of
02:06years never really did anything and now all of a sudden i mean that's why i don't get this i don't
02:10get the i get why there was not any backlash the there's layers to this and the argument that he is
02:16bringing up himself he's wrong about you are comparing a 24 year old kid who has done all due
02:23respect to hook he's so far so good right looks good done just about nothing right he's held the
02:30ftw title he hasn't had any main storylines just yet he hasn't even made it to the midcard just yet
02:37and we're skyrocketing him all of a sudden to be in the world title picture with someone
02:42a veteran like samoa joe and you are comparing that guy to like you said a former wwe champion
02:49a 37 year old 20 year veteran of this business so that comparison just doesn't add up this seth
02:58brolin's jinder mahal match which happened last week on raw it's nothing major it's not like we're
03:04putting the title on jinder it was just something else to give seth to do because that's what you do
03:09for your champions just like samoa joe had three different guys come out on him on dynamite last
03:15week and that's not even including the main guy adam cole who will probably be coming after him
03:19you give a champion multiple threats multiple contenders some more serious than others because
03:25you want the title reign to make sense and you don't want your champion just sitting on the
03:30sidelines for their next big match for seth rollins that would be cm punk at wrestlemania
03:34well we're not just going to have seth sit on the sidelines till april we need to give him something
03:38to do roman reigns roman reigns shout out to roman going home and i'll come home i'll come you know
03:45back for the pay-per-views sleep until noon just on his couch yeah he's that guy he's that guy
03:50uncle rikishi stopping by are you are you doing anything what are you doing his dog's looking at him
03:55like did you get fired dude you're home a lot what's going on every time paul hammond's call
04:00roman reigns he's never getting an answer no not it'd be funnier every time he called him roman
04:04reigns like chewing on pop yep what's up man i was just watching netflix i got this new show
04:11but you don't want seth to be that right exactly so you give him something to do we're not putting
04:17a title on gender so here's the thing tony khan is and that's why i said there's layers to this
04:23he's creating a war in his own head and he's losing by the way because if you ask anybody
04:29which is the funniest that's the best part because if you ask anyone in the wrestling industry and
04:34multiple including big names like mjf seth rollins you know anyone in the wrestling industry wrestlers
04:40bosses whoever there is no war right aw is not going anywhere wwe is not going anywhere wwe is obviously
04:48the main you know company they've been around they've got seniority they're as big as they are
04:52nobody no matter how good or bad aw or anyone else is is dethroning them anytime soon aw is a
04:59solid great alternative to give wrestling fans something to watch consistently they're on national
05:04tv they have consistent pay-per-views tony khan is the only one in the wrestling world right now that
05:08thinks there is any form of war where one company has got to you know overtake the other and this is an
05:15example of that no one was making this comparison no one when gender got his title shot no one said
05:22well what about hook when hook called out samoa joe no one said what about gender tony khan created this
05:29and then lost because 98 of the wrestling world was like what the what are you talking about
05:34outside of dax harwood and dustin rhodes who i mean all right dust listen i appreciate the thought
05:43but the whole tweet of hey you know stop travel you know the tribal wrestling fans dustin come and get
05:49your boy man talk to your boss on that sir because come on yeah even his own wrestlers were tweeting
05:55out that night you know different you know creative unique gifts memes of like i can't look at this
06:03right it's embarrassing how big of a deal is it outside of the actual argument of specifically
06:08what he's talking about how big of a deal is it that a boss like tony khan is going to social media
06:13to complain like this it's embarrassing you're you're representing an entire organization an entire
06:19company and to your point and to many people's point this is a guy who like i don't know if he's
06:27just really obsessed with trying to recreate the late 90s monday night war one dude you're not even on
06:32monday nights and please don't do that because you'll get buried real quick it's just like it's
06:38it doesn't need to be it doesn't exist nobody really wants that because we saw how that ended
06:43last time it was a good ride it was fun it was great 97 98 through the 2000 2000 whatever 2001 but
06:49when it ended you had one company and it became boring very quickly if anything all of this going on
06:55different people getting called up to get title shots blah blah blah it should be celebrated yeah
07:00and again it goes back to the basis of why why do you so badly want to like create something that
07:06nobody else wants you just make yourself look dumb and then by by proxy you make all of your employees
07:10in your organization look dumb too you make them look second rate yeah because you're trying to force
07:14this competition that the obvious dominant company isn't giving you attention on they don't even want
07:20it they don't care what you're saying you look like the little dog in the yard yapping at somebody
07:24and it's like what are you doing yeah outside of dax hardwood like consistently you know having his
07:29back uh nobody even his own wrestlers are like no i don't want that you see the wrestlers supporting
07:35each other we'll get into that with you know bailey and sasha bank showing up at impact right like
07:38uh you know and and so on and so forth so it's like it's not a thing to the wrestlers and you
07:44compared it to the monday night wars wrestling was just becoming mainstream back then yes one of those
07:49companies were gonna be as boring as it got one of those companies were going out of business they
07:54were counter booking each other they were trying to take the other ones out of course the infamous
07:58tony shivani incident with mick foley like we were which really turned the tide it did and but one
08:04company was gonna be the wrestling company because wrestling was not mainstream just yet wwf wwe ended up
08:11being that company right now that's not the case wwe is the company if anything aew being that
08:18alternative is great for wrestling because it makes wrestling fun it makes events like the royal rumble
08:23even more exciting coming up in a couple weeks even though it's a wwe event because there's a
08:27whole nother company that if certain contract situations happen a certain way surprises can
08:33happen and then no matter how much we know behind the scenes and how much people try to spoil when
08:40one person jumps ship to the next company it's exciting look what happened with nick nemeth and
08:44dolph ziggler and tna was great having wrestling companies an alternative to just wwe is exciting
08:51for wrestling fans especially with the number of talent men and women stars around the world it
08:57gives them a platform it leaves the door open for surprises consistently and i will yeah right and
09:03i'll say this too what tony khan should he's such a fan of this business he's such a fan of pro
09:09wrestling sports entertainment whatever you want to call it he should learn from the history of it
09:13you mentioned also the monday night wars how one company went out one company was going to
09:18survive putting the other one out of business etc etc the reason that happened i believe aside from
09:23all the other issues with wcw at the time eric bischoff and wcw became so obsessed as you can see
09:30with tony khan now of counter booking as you said right back then it was an actual thing you they were
09:35counter booking each other yeah once vince mcmahon and wwf were were forced to adjust and go the route
09:43of a stone cold steve austin austin of dx the rock all that wcw became more fixated on how do we
09:49counter that versus how do we make a good product on our own that was ultimately part of their downfall
09:56i think we're seeing a lot of tony khan worrying more about how do i one up wwe as opposed to how
10:02do i just make sure my product is a plus all the time is good tna still exists guys yeah tna was once
10:09trying to counter book wwe and if we've seen anything right now with nick nemeth and other
10:12people going over there it's it's a viable option yes they could actually be the dark horse you can
10:18might tna is one of those companies where whether they're tna impact whatever now they're tna officially
10:23again being able to just survive like keep their head above water yeah even though they're always
10:29looked at as the third option right they're one of those companies now where they're they are just
10:33like when they got kurt angle back in 05 it's a thing where they're one signing away from being
10:39super relevant again yes and especially bringing the tna you know name back that just brings a lot
10:45of fandom right there with tony khan doing this though it's an example and it exposes the fact that
10:50this is why someone with no wrestling background has no business having the power he has he's a fan
10:56he's passionate about wrestling love it great he wants to use his money to start this company
11:01great hire wrestling minds and wrestling people to come in and do what you're trying to do because
11:08you don't know how to book and outside of just the booking aspect you don't know how to act right
11:13because in the wrestling industry this is childish i don't care what if you agree with the gender hook
11:20argument or not this is childish you would never imagine triple h or vince mcmahon or eric bischoff or
11:28anyone of you know legitimate standing in the wrestling industry in a company doing this well
11:35eric bischoff then may have resorted to some of this they were counterbooking eric bischoff again yes
11:40counterbooking and eric bischoff had worked enough at that point in wrestling as of as of as a promoter
11:46as a commentator working amongst that the locker room and all that environment to understand the game
11:51now this is really just tony khan screaming on a microphone to nobody well that's it eric bischoff
11:57is a wrestling mind like you said he worked in the business vince mcmahon his family was the business
12:01he worked in the business before he was where he was of course we know what triple h has done before
12:06he was where he was everyone running tna right now worked in the business as wrestlers or others
12:11before they are where they are right now and tony khan is a fan who has a lot of money and that's fine
12:18but you are exposing yourself to not know how to act how to survive and how to handle yourself
12:23in the wrestling industry and this tweet this post on x was a prime example of that yeah and exposed
12:30it and it makes aew look just a little bit more amateur and the fact that he had it was also the
12:35fact that he didn't just put out a tweet he engaged in a full-on conversation about this yes and it's
12:40like dude you could have either one preferably just not said anything yeah and if you did you put your
12:44tweet out there and leave it alone the fact that you felt that you had to double down on your point
12:48and defend it and keep going after people that were responding to you it's like you know what man
12:51just shush please please uh real quick and we'll move on jinder mahal did react to this on on x
12:58pretty funny saying who who the fuck's hook by the way and that solid but he took it down fair fair
13:05question to a lot of people that don't regularly watch aew are probably like who who's has has a son
13:10taz has a kid what when did that happen he did take it down uh there's no official word whether
13:17or not he did it on his own or was told to but your reaction to him taking it down um i think honestly
13:23i know people get on oh well if you said it stand by what you said and i usually i i stick with that
13:27but in this in this case in this instance be the bigger man you don't need to put anything out there
13:32just just be like look it was probably advised to him let them talk whatever don't give them any
13:38don't don't give any validity to what he's saying by responding to him whether he was told to or he
13:43did it himself what that showed is professionalism right because again this is a professional company
13:49be the adult in the room yes this is a multi-million billion dollar industry and company act like it
13:56and just like you said they're all talking that's the owner over there that's the guy running the ship
14:02acting like a child over there don't engage leave it be not only that even though triple h is a guy
14:07that i know he can put out little sarcastic comments and things as well triple h is also
14:11somebody who now in his position understands like look one we're running this billion multi-billion
14:17dollar company two we have we're public we have shareholders and people that were that are invested
14:22in us we have to conduct ourselves a certain way this is not the 90s wild wild west anymore well and
14:26it's also not like yes they take aw takes jabs at wwe all the time and that's fine there's a right and
14:31wrong way to do this this was not taking a jab at wwe this felt like a child upset at the fact
14:36that we're not happy with the hook decision and he is literally crying on social media wait so no
14:43one likes hook but everyone's okay with gender what the heck yeah that is childish yeah it's it's the
14:50it is it's it's really silly because at the base of it that's what it is why are you guys not
14:54celebrating our thing yep dude because nobody cares i'm sorry do something else yeah that's what it
15:00comes down to your business if you don't buy the public in and they don't care about what you're doing
15:04it's not necessarily a personal attack on hook yeah it's like we're just not interested in that
15:09give us something else we like samoa joe yeah give us someone else give us swerve strickland yeah give
15:13us hangman paging i don't care just we don't care we're not excited about the hook thing no gender we
15:18know gender we've seen yes we like seth rollins we like the whole let's do it it's just it's a one-off
15:23match we're not making this out of it right and he didn't but it was a good match it was a good
15:29match touch on yeah real quick let's actually talk about these matches really really quick
15:33seth got the win priest threatening to cash in did not drew gets involved seth retains what do you do
15:40with seth before mania oh my gosh i mean he can have another i don't hmm what do we do at the rumble
15:47with him what do we do that's my thought because i almost thought that we would we would hold off
15:51jinder mahal to the royal rumble just to give i kind of thought that's where they were going to go
15:56um i don't hate the fact that they gave it away on on raw i just wonder now who do you put them up
16:01against i almost i almost wonder because with so much going on i almost wonder if a priest failed
16:09cash-in is coming and that will add to the judgment day breakup and i wonder if he goes to because of
16:15think about it the amount of times he's attempted to sneak up on seth and it failed what if he just
16:20goes you know what screw that i want you at the rumble i'm cashing in okay he pulled the rvd move
16:26and say i'm telling you where i'm cashing yeah yeah and and he may fail because again with so much
16:31going on with punk and time's running out before mania it could be the judgment day's fault and we
16:36can just lead to that breakup i i want priest to be a champion too yeah but it just feels like we're
16:41running out of time but you also want to build if you if you have the possibility of having a um
16:45potential finn balor versus priest match at wrestlemania which could be which could be a
16:49reality yeah and that could add to it because those two had a good rivalry in nxt and that's a great
16:53question because i look up and down the roster of raw and i'm just like well who do you put them
16:56with because it doesn't make you don't want you're not obviously going the cm punk route now that's
17:00the payoff well it's also the royal rumble everyone's in the royal rumble match so it's
17:06like okay it's just is seth just sitting it out i you can't have your world champion sit out royal
17:10rumble because roman's even defending at the rumble well if roman's gonna be there hey look this is i
17:17know right who's going roman's there okay well i guess i have to go i have to go no i mean well
17:23this is set i mean honestly by by that by that rationale then seth should be allowed to take a night
17:28off since roman takes like four months off at a time it's true but i don't know honestly i'm i'm
17:33drawing a blank on that on who you put him with because to your point i agree i really did think
17:38they were going to do the jinder mahal thing for the rumble which i thought would have been a fine
17:41title match sure i almost think you let priest cash in just because we have nothing else going on
17:46i i don't know i'm i would not hate that i just wouldn't want it to i just wouldn't want it to
17:51jeopardize anything you could have done with it after the rumble i think priest could win at the
17:56rumble and have it for a month and a half and then seth wins it back to set up punk
17:59could be or you or you go with my uh my much recommended triple threat option oh you can't
18:06you gotta have punk and seth i agree but if you're gonna do the damian priest holding the championship
18:10either it's gonna lead to him losing it and that's losing it due to judgment days
18:15interference messing it up for him which will lead you to that match or if he's gonna keep it
18:20till mania and drop it again he's a placeholder for cm punk yeah one of the two what about hook
18:24getting the world title shot this week on dynamite great go for it wonderful why not
18:28now i have no i have no problem with hook i have no problem with him at all i like the guy i've been
18:33a fan forever i just think that this is one of those things where it's like i i have no reason to
18:37want him to take it off samoa joe samoa joe's just getting started with his title reign this is a fine
18:42in the vein of gender and seth it's a fine tv match you can have a couple near falls if you want i
18:47wouldn't do that i'd have it be a squash match personally and just show hook you know what
18:51you're brave for stepping up but you're not ready for this man look i'm gonna say because
18:55i cannot remember the the name someone on tiktok compared this and they actually sold me on the
19:00match okay to undertaker jeff hardy in 2002 hey and i'm like you know what banger match right there
19:07and honestly though that comparison i'm like it could be okay at the end of the match all right
19:14you're all right you're all right you know what just like taker beat the hell out of jeff hardy
19:18and he kept coming back for more yep and he was obviously outmatched yes but it was just like
19:22the taker giving a look like are you serious yeah okay that comparison sold me on this match yeah
19:28shout out to tiktok shout out tiktok shout out to social media wait a minute well let's not go
19:33that far oh wait a minute shout out to tiktok tony khan's like yeah shout out to social media
19:37shout out to me we love me tony khan is social media now okay moving on all right saturday night
19:44was a crazy night in wrestling man it had nothing to do with wwe or aew i'm just gonna list
19:49which is wild let's let's run down the things that happened shout out to outside of wwe and aew
19:54because you know what's funny is there's a whole universe out there yes a whole universe drew
19:58mcintyre had a great promo again by the way this dude's been killing it on the bike and he brought
20:03up to cody rhodes on raw the work that they did outside of wwe to pave the way on the indie on the
20:11indie scene and just outside of wwe right and saturday night yes and it's very true by the way
20:17drew galloway and impact right and cody rhodes obviously turned into what he turned into this is
20:23it feels like the same thing for all these names i'm about to list how about doff ziggler showing up
20:27a at wrestle kingdom a couple weeks ago in new japan and now hard to kill in tna how much of a career
20:35resurgence does this feel like for nick nemeth it feels like everything he now of course we're just
20:40we're going off of the big return we have yet to see what they're going to do how they're going
20:43to go with him but versus what he was doing prior which is just kind of being a enhancement talent
20:50yes fine but this seems like something where it's like finally nick nemeth dropping the dolph
20:56ziggler thing is going to have that push the beloved push as jr says goddamn push that a lot
21:03of wrestlers want but you know what no and i'm happy to see it i know the guy's a little bit older now but
21:08he can still go he still has a great look and the fans the fans love him i mean he's gonna get a pop
21:13every time this is great for nick nemeth of course the dude is so talented he's been forever it is
21:18great there it is because this is for tna and new japan and just this is for outside of wwe just as
21:26important as adam copeland going to aew yes because this is a face and a name that we've seen only in
21:34wwe for the last 15 years yeah from spirit squad to dolph ziggler all the way through his main event run
21:41only a wwe face only a wwe name and now you're going to see that face in tna and new japan elsewhere you
21:49know what's good about it too is when you have these situations where somebody jumps from one company to
21:53another and it's somebody who's has name value and they're they can be pushed into that main event
22:00spot but they're not overwhelming name value to where it's like oh you brought someone you like
22:04you brought in brock lesnar and now he has to beat everybody no no no it's somebody who you can put
22:09in there yeah and they can be your world champion or they can be just in the main event scene having
22:15great matches i think that's what nick nemeth dolph ziggler nick nemeth now right can do for tna is a
22:20great signing for them dana brooke also showing up at hard to kill ash by elegance it sounds like a
22:25perfume it does it does i'm like she probably smells good i don't even know how you wrestle
22:31but you just smell great you smell great is it fair to call her a lot of people are making the
22:36comparison to timeless tony storm i get it i get it off of first initial appearance you know you got
22:43the guy there's kind of being her her pr hype man like kind of like a luther i get it i got it
22:47let's see where this goes i'm not ready to be like calling it knockoff ripoff yet if they start
22:53to push it that way like i think you had said earlier today we were talking about it if she
22:56comes out with black and white yeah right then i think we have to kind of say hey come on you know
23:00look the girl just literally came out and stood there she hasn't said a word she hasn't had a match
23:06shout out to the announcer who got so excited for her being there he ended up calling her ash by
23:10excellence at the end of the yes nailed it excellence but she hasn't said a word she hasn't had a
23:16match i get it look just and i i'm gonna go this route just because they look
23:22similar doesn't mean they're a knockoff anything gotcha you know what i mean like there has been
23:28plenty of wrestlers male and female who dress like that who have looked like that it does not mean
23:34look at every wrestler from triple h to nick all this to cody rhodes to the miz who rick flair
23:40wore a suit they all wore a suit and carry their championship all of evolution come on yeah you
23:44know what i mean and then cody and then batista when he went on his own you know what i mean like
23:47they have which batista and that the turtleneck by the way the batista had some great fashion
23:52he did he i don't know i don't know about returning batista i don't know about hollywood
23:57batista i don't know what happened it's funny i just had this conversation prior to that yeah i just
24:03had this conversation with my girl a couple weeks ago like because we talked about batista potentially
24:07being the one to come back on raw when the rock came back and i'm like it's awkward because that's
24:12not the animal anymore you know what i mean he looks weird it's like fashion model batista yes
24:16like that's the clothes that died that's kelvin klein batista it's weird i just it's i don't i can't
24:23take you seriously anymore the shades shout out batista we love you batista we miss the animal big
24:28dave oh man uh jack perry showed up in new japan pro wrestling ripped up his aew contract are you
24:35surprised that tony khan you know i don't know if he sent them over there or whatever but are you
24:39surprised to see him there i will not be surprised uh if tony khan puts up an angry uh tweet
24:44or something i don't know i'm not just you couldn't work this out with him cm punk's gone
24:52that's my thought unless unless jack perry wanted to go and he was just like screw this place i don't
24:58know i just my thought was really you couldn't work this out with him there's no cm punk there you
25:03could have done something but hey i mean look i know the relationship is good between new japan and
25:07aew so clearly there's still a connection to aew with this but it just surprises me because before
25:16the cm punk drama jack perry was doing good work right he had just turned heel he had a great match
25:21with hook at all in before having his fight with punk backstage right after hook has great matches
25:27hey or capable of it wait you just said it don't go there don't go there let me check my
25:33let me check on my twitter real quick no but jack perry was doing great work like you said punk is
25:39gone perry's been off tv for months now it's been since august you could have moved on with him man
25:46tony khan's holding out hope that cm punk is just playing well and that's what and that's the weird
25:50decision unless this was jack perry saying i refuse yeah you know i shouldn't have gotten punished for
25:55that i refuse to to go back there or to be on aw tv that part okay whatever there's nothing you can do
26:02but if this was at all a decision from the higher ups it's the wrong decision because this dude was
26:07one of your solid mid-card heels and he was looking to be that going into 2024 and because of that
26:14unfortunate incident yes you made the right call by putting taking him off tv for a while but to let
26:19him go to a whole nother company it just seems like a stretch yeah i feel like you could have brought
26:24him back and just continue that same momentum you had going with him as a heel i thought there was
26:28you could have gone somewhere really good with that yeah potentially mustafa ali also in new
26:32japan pro wrestling uh showed up on saturday this is all saturday night all saturday night saturday
26:37night got wild collision was on tv and no one cared everyone's watching everything have you seen tna
26:42what's the last time that happened i know right uh royal rumble season no one's talking about this
26:47oh my gosh uh do you like the chances for mustafa ali to uh succeed outside of wwe um this is a
26:54case of where i usually say there's only one place to go and that's up yeah that's what it
26:58feels like with him i mean he's somebody that's been very vocal about deserving more tv time and
27:02i'll be real when he's got more tv time whether and i know retribution angle whatever but even outside
27:08of that i wasn't sold by him no it was very underwhelming even when they tried to give him
27:12his spots and it was just like okay see what you can do yeah i could do without this segment i could
27:18do without this match but that's not to say that this you know this couldn't be a whole new lease on
27:23on the career life it's exactly what drew mcintyre said with to cody roads right we went out and we
27:27redefined ourselves we reinvented ourselves mustafa ali this is your opportunity to do the exact
27:33and last thing speaking of hard to kill bailey and mercedes monet or sasha banks was seen at hard
27:40to kill watching uh trinity's match naomi trinity lost the title and seemingly said goodbye to the tna
27:46crowd potentially it felt like it seeing these three seeing bailey and mercedes showing up at tna
27:53and all what do you make of those three and also the potential relationship between wwe and tna
27:59i appreciate how bailey and uh sasha were dressed very incognito they attempted they tried as if
28:05people weren't everyone pointing them out so that was but no um i i think i mean this was obviously
28:10you know like i said more of a show support probably um very likely is trinity naomi's last match
28:16in tna i still i'm a little more believing now that naomi's gonna come back probably in the rumble
28:25yeah and you had some of the fans if you watch some of the cell phone footage from there people
28:28just kind of yelling oh see you're the royal rumble you know and well she's waving bye um so that could
28:34just be it it could just be there to support a friend um also could speak to maybe triple h being
28:39cool with that and them knowing that he's not going to flip out because he's open to some sort
28:43potential relationship between between the companies yeah i do i do think we see naomi at
28:48royal rumble which they'll get a big pop from me and i think we i think we get mercedes monet
28:53at the royal rumble i think it's been long enough i think her relationship with bailey helps that
28:58situation i think if naomi does go back to wwe uh sasha's got to be right behind her uh and that
29:04would make a lot of sense and that would be that would open up a lot of doors for what wrestlemania
29:07could be which we'll talk about in a minute uh you know so i love that and i think it does open up
29:12the fact that triple h is more than okay with doing business and i'm just going to phrase it
29:17that way with other companies he's not going to freak out that one of his wrestlers are showing up
29:21at another you know company's pay-per-view and getting all this publicity number one and he's
29:26also and we've seen it with mickey james showing up in the royal rumble not that long ago i think
29:30if naomi does come back does it mean she's done with tna i don't know maybe not you know what i mean
29:35or does it mean mercedes is not doing anything right there's a lot of names especially now that
29:39they're the tna brand that are in wwe now that were tna names and i and i feel like triple h down
29:46the line to an extent is going to be open but to doing business and i think this was an example of
29:52that and again it makes wrestling fun no one's trying to put anyone out of business this just
29:57makes wrestling fun yeah no it does and because i again like you're saying that we have some they
30:02have some former tna names in that company dude it doesn't have to be a long-term thing if you
30:07have a relationship between the companies and one night on tna we get uh you know return of aj
30:13styles in a match just just a match just just for the crowds with the tna faithful you're getting
30:17the old you know old school aj styles back that'd be great something like that treat it like when
30:20they send people down to nxt yeah send them down for a match it doesn't mean anything long term
30:25you don't got to win any titles it's just it's for the fans yeah a few more things before we get
30:30out of here cm punk cody rhodes set to go face to face on raw before the royal rumble what do you
30:35want to see out of this they both got a story to finish they both have an agenda i think that
30:39promo is going to be good yes um because ultimately we're not leading to a match with them at the
30:43rumble or at wrestlemania we can have you know physicality in the rumble yes but i think that
30:48this segment should be it should deliver what i want to see and if this segment will deliver this
30:53is i am so this is going to get two great talkers this is going to get us so excited for the rumble
30:57this segment alone but both of these guys lose the nice guy routine yeah your story cody should
31:06be very important punk everything we know you've been through should be very important so screw your
31:12story i'm finishing mine that needs to be the mentality of both these guys take some shots take
31:18some jabs we're gonna get aew references out of it that's fine we expect it we love it it's only
31:23going to add to the story but i don't want the whole i appreciate you i respect it no screw your
31:29story you don't know what i've been through my story for cody punk you're not coming in here and
31:35screwing up what i've had going on here for the last year plus and for punk i've been here before
31:41i know how to do this just because you couldn't get it done last year doesn't mean i need to take a
31:45back seat this that edge on both ends need to be there i agree i and that's only going to get us
31:51just more excited uh for the rumble aw world title who needs a shot who needs the title first i'll say
31:57be uh taking it off samoa joe adam cole or swerve strickland i would say adam cole if he can remain
32:03healthy at some point yeah um and the reason i say him not not to say that swerve strickland doesn't
32:08deserve it because i believe he eventually does it's just that you just had this whole payoff with
32:12the devil reveal and all that you got to give me a reason for that to matter it can't just be that
32:16the whole story leading up to and then the reveal was the only thing that mattered
32:19because if that's it then then it didn't matter at all right yeah assuming health it is adam cole
32:24it makes sense in the story i love swerve strickland i think swerve then takes it off cole
32:28down the line on a pay-per-view at some point in 2024 uh i just wouldn't want to see because i want
32:34a longer run from swerve right than cole and i think if swerve takes it off joe the second cole's
32:40healthy adam cole and the undisputed kingdom are taking that title off him and i'd rather it be the
32:44other way around so adam cole is for sure the answer here uh becky lynch facing off with rhea
32:48ripley on raw is becky your favorite to win the royal rumble she's been my favorite to win for a
32:52while um yeah i just think this match would there's other potential matchups at wrestlemania you can
32:57do that would be just as big or bigger but we haven't seen this one yeah i think it would it'd be
33:02a big time marquee match i think we get this match at wrestlemania i don't think a royal rumble win
33:06is involved i think bailey is my answer to win the rumble the story there makes more sense with
33:11what's going on with damage control they assume she would choose rhea she would turn around and
33:16choose eo the only way bailey doesn't win to me is if dakota kai is secretly healthy and shows up in
33:21the rumble to eliminate her i'd be okay with that as well but i think bailey wins it for eo and becky
33:27can qualify at the chamber to face rhea and i think you get both matches at mania out of that
33:32how about the young bucks showing up and uh hinting at wanting to be sting's last match how do you feel
33:37about that um well initially i know i had said a while back i wanted to be adam copeland um but
33:42if you really do think about it analyze it staying in a singles one-on-one match is probably going to
33:46exploit a lot of his what he can't really do now at his age which is why he's been in so many tag
33:52matches just being the the crazy old guy that goes to a table every now and then yeah and that's fine i
33:57think that's probably why they're going to go this route um the bucks i know that i'm not a huge fan
34:02of theirs i know sometimes they have their detractors they're going to take sting to a good
34:06match in a tag match he can get his spots in they're going to take his spots i think that
34:10what would be a cool way to end it is sting kind of passing that torch to darby and letting him hit
34:15the scorpion death drop or something and getting the pin kind of deal but i don't think sting in a
34:20singles match it would be very limited even though i really like to see him go out in a one-on-one match
34:25kudos to you because you kind of made me hate this a little less than i did when i first asked the
34:30question i'm not a fan of the young bucks uh and i'd rather this be a one-on-one match but like you
34:35said it probably exposes sting but at the same time we've also watched sting jump off balconies
34:41his entire run in aew so i i but we're talking about a stunt versus a whole match yeah sting from
34:4820 some odd years ago probably could have done this fine yeah sting from 10 15 years ago could have done
34:52this fine sting now you kind of he's at the point where the fans love him they're always going to love
34:58sting he's going to get a pot but he picks his spots you can't have the guy go out there and
35:02deliver one-on-one match for 15 minutes you know if we wanted the tag match i would have rather held
35:06off the christian story to have christian be a part of you know christian and nick wayne and that tag
35:13match be the last one they have a history anyway uh and how do you book jade cargill by the way for
35:18wrestlemania you know if we're charlotte's injured bailey's in one match becky's in the other match
35:23what do you do um she could be in the rumble i think that's her first debut yes if they do go
35:29that route i had spoken to you earlier about this i think that it would be good for her to be the one
35:35that faces and defeats naya jacks yeah i just because because honestly like from a physicality
35:41standpoint there's very few women that can pose a physical threat in the company's naya jacks
35:45i think jay cargill is showing up on the scene at wrestlemania or at the rumble that match will be
35:51fine you don't need a big technical prowess match it's just it's just two women in there two
35:55powerful women it could be a short event boom i think naya jacks's loss is coming at the
36:00elimination chamber uh for rhea ripley you know rhea ripley's obviously from australia i think they
36:04give her that push there uh you think she gets a clean win i think she gets a clean win i think it
36:09makes her look strong and you know i i don't think we're pushing naya jacks to the moon at all i think
36:14for jade cargill charlotte's injured rhea becky you know eo bailey that bianca bella is not
36:21taking wrestlemania off no and i think you have to have bianca and jade bianca did talk about teaming
36:26with jade but if it's not that i think you need to have them one-on-one the arrival of if sasha
36:32banks does come back to wwe that's also another option for one of those two or both you know what
36:38i mean yeah and with sasha we did we've already seen obviously the bianca match with her and bianca
36:43belair um but i mean not like you can't run it back right it's just it's just now you have
36:47jade cargill involved it's it's really wwe it really has like an embarrassment of riches right
36:51now so bianca and jade versus sasha and naomi who says no i wouldn't hate it well around the ring is
36:59available wherever the hell you get your podcast wraf.com for your friends in detroit he's that
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