00:00We welcome measures brought forward to get benefit fraud down, but actually they're not
00:06going as far as we were. We're projecting to save £12 billion. We're putting forward
00:10all sorts of measures. So we welcome it, we want to see it go further, and actually there's
00:14going to be a lot more people unemployed as a result of the government's actions, so there
00:16is going to be bigger consequences to deal with on the level of that welfare bill.
00:20I think, do you know what, obviously it's about balance and what doesn't happen, what
00:24rights to privacy people do and don't have. But in real terms, if you need the support
00:29of the state, then you need to come to the state with, well you need to be open and transparent
00:33about your own affairs.
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