00:00We don't really take lessons from the Labour frontbench on businesses.
00:02They're not a group of people with much business acumen.
00:05In fact, not much business experience between them.
00:07The Conservative government would have been reducing the headcount in the civil service now
00:12and pushing that money back into the front line services.
00:15I'm not sure it's just a gimmick.
00:17Do you know what we always want to see?
00:19The civil service being more efficient, more punchy and more productive.
00:22We'd also like to see a few less of them
00:24so that the entire machinery government is that bit more efficient.
00:28Labour seem like they want to make it bigger and fatter and come up with more gimmicks for it.
00:32We want to make it more efficient and lean
00:34so that public money goes back into front line services.
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