Did the refs impact the Chiefs Texans game?

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What happened to the Texans? Did the refs impact the game?

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00:00I think it opened at one and a half.

00:01Yeah, well, it opened at one, and you can get it

00:03some places at one and a half.

00:05I mean, I just think it's almost, to me, isn't it?

00:08And isn't it really a pick'em?

00:11Yeah.

00:12You know, when it's a number like that, one, one and a half,

00:15that, to me, feels like a pick'em.

00:17I'm like, I'm not the gambling expert.

00:20Yeah, I mean, that's kind of shifted

00:22where you no longer get three points for hosting the game.

00:29And then the other game, I think it's five and a half.

00:32Yeah, yeah, it opened at six, and now

00:35Philly's minus five and a half, which

00:39this will be the third time they'll be meeting this season.

00:43They split the two games, Philadelphia and Washington.

00:49I don't know, man.

00:50I'm telling you, Washington's good.

00:53Jaden Daniels is good.

00:55You know the other thing I really like about Jaden Daniels

00:57too, his ability to run.

01:00And they utilize him.

01:01Like, they utilize him as a runner.

01:05Well, it gives you a little glimpse

01:06into what the future can be here.

01:09Oh, yeah, yeah, for Drake May.

01:10And quick turnaround.

01:12Yeah, and that's the thing that I'm excited about when

01:16you start to look at.

01:18And it was interesting that you bring this up,

01:20because I would have loved to have been on this morning

01:23and talked to Boomer.

01:24Because there was one thing that stood out

01:26in the interview between you and him

01:28was the coaches with experience.

01:33And you're big on that.

01:34But he leaned towards what Ben Johnson, like,

01:38he gave him a pass.

01:39And I'm like, why?

01:41What makes Ben Johnson any different

01:45than any other coach that this is his first time

01:50with no experience?

01:52Because when you start to see what Dan Quinn is

01:55able to do at Washington, his second go around,

01:58it gives me good hope for Vrabel in his second go around.

02:04But then it gives me, it goes back

02:05to how successful are those first year head coaches that,

02:10you know, he brought up Aaron Glenn, who I was a teammate of.

02:14He obviously brought up Ben Johnson.

02:15But he made, he gave an exception for Ben Johnson.

02:18I'm like, well, what has Ben Johnson done

02:21besides being a knucklehead and running

02:23a reverse on the goal line, which lost you a bunch of yards?

02:26And then, you know, I'm kind of busting his balls a little bit.

02:29Well, that's who Scheim wanted, though.

02:30Right.

02:31But what has he done in that world of?

02:35Well, I just think it's the, I, you agree with it.

02:39So I won't, I stand in opposition to you

02:43when it comes to basically blowing off defense

02:48as a part of the NFL game at all.

02:51And the over-reliance on offense.

02:53Like, and I think that's what, that's why,

02:56like if you look at the Raiders and it seems like it's almost

03:00a done deal that he's going to be the next head coach there.

03:03Right.

03:04That, that to me is a risky proposition

03:07because you have so much to do with that football team.

03:10And so you got a guy who has no experience as a head coach

03:15that you're going to, he's got to figure out

03:16who his quarterback is.

03:18Right.

03:19That organization needs an entire reboot.

03:22So that to me is why I'm not,

03:25I don't get that excited about Ben Johnson

03:27because he hasn't done it before, but.

03:28And to Greg's point, defense is so important

03:30because if you look at the games that happened

03:32this past weekend and you look at the most total yards

03:34in each of the matchup,

03:35the teams with the most total yards were the ones that lost.

03:38It was the teams that,

03:39that successfully benefited off turnovers.

03:43So it really was defense that won those games

03:45over the weekend.

03:46So Greg's right.

03:47People put too much of an emphasis on offense,

03:50but at the same time,

03:51when it comes to Scheim and his obsession with Ben Johnson,

03:55and I don't, I don't mean to speak for Scheim,

03:57but it did seem like he just wanted Ben Johnson

03:59to benefit Drake May.

04:01But I believe Mike Brable and I trust Mike Brable

04:03is going to put a perfect OC in place for Drake May.

04:06I also stand by that,

04:07that I believe that it is Josh McDaniels

04:09and it's already been decided weeks ago,

04:11even though he's interviewing other people.

04:12Well, but the thing about when you start to look at it

04:15and I, and I agree, like, you know,

04:17it's cool, like defense,

04:19you need them to be opportunistic and make plays.

04:22But when you look at all these games over the weekends,

04:25I mean, think about it.

04:26Josh Allen, it's Lamar Jackson, it's Patrick Mahomes,

04:30it's CJ Stroud, even Jaden Daniels,

04:33like you need, it's about your offense.

04:36It's about your offensive line.

04:38Like when you look at the Eagles,

04:40like that line is hitting, as you would say.

04:44And so, and that's been an issue here for quite some time.

04:49Right, but when you look at the Washington Commanders,

04:52at the start of the season, your offense,

04:55and I get it's just projection,

04:56at the start of the season,

04:57you had a better offensive line, just projection.

05:00And I get you got, you need to get guys in free agency

05:05and off, but it's really about,

05:08okay, if you have an average offensive line

05:11or a little bit above average,

05:13and then you have quarterbacks that can make plays,

05:16you have talented, you know, wide receivers,

05:18you have talent, like Philadelphia,

05:20they have a great, they have a good offensive line.

05:24But how much of that is you have Saquon, right?

05:30You have, look at what he's been able to do

05:34for that organization.

05:37And he was a guy that was available,

05:39same with Derrick Henry and what he's been able to do.

05:43You start to look at the offenses.

05:46And that's why when I look at Vrabel,

05:47I look at it more of the blueprint of like the commanders.

05:51You have the young, talented,

05:54it looks like quarterback franchise kid in Drake May,

06:00build around him, get him pieces.

06:03And then maybe your defense might not be like as good,

06:08but as long as you're coached well enough

06:10where you're able to make those opportunistic plays

06:13and create turnovers or get sacks,

06:15like look at the Rams defense, you know,

06:19they're able to get sacks,

06:20they're able to put pressure on the quarterback.

06:22Like, so if you're able to do some of those things

06:24and you got that type of offense,

06:26you're right back in the mix.

06:28I mean, right back in the mix of things.

06:32I need Buffalo to go out there and win that game.

06:34Yeah, it's gonna be tough though.

06:36It is Buffalo against everybody,

06:38but it's Mahomes is just so,

06:40did you see that touchdown pass he threw to Kelly?

06:42He's falling down.

06:44He is so good.

06:47And-

06:48I also don't think it's Buffalo against everybody.

06:50I think most people want Buffalo to win.

06:51I think it's Kansas City against everybody right now.

06:54I'm talking about the referees, right?

06:56But Mahomes is so good.

06:58Like, and so even if the refs help them a little bit,

07:02you gotta then make sure like,

07:04Kelsey can't be in the middle of the field

07:06wide open by himself

07:07because Mahomes is gonna make so many plays.

07:10He's just, he's so good at being able to extend plays

07:14and make things happen.

07:16And that's why, listen, I think Josh McDaniel,

07:20Josh Allen is playing tremendous,

07:23but I ain't, like I told you,

07:25I'm not betting against Mahomes

07:26because I know one guy can do it.

07:28And the other one hasn't proven yet.

07:31Even, you brought up Boomer's point, right?

07:34The throw, maybe it's a little bit off

07:38that he throws to Mark Andrews,

07:39but Mark Andrews still gotta catch it.

07:41And part of it is because all that pressure's on the line.

07:45Guys, a guy like Mahomes doesn't do that.

07:49And until you can beat Mahomes,

07:51I wouldn't bet against them.

07:53I, you know, I just, I'm not gonna do it.

07:57But it's gonna be infuriating if there's more of the same

08:02when it comes to giving them every single call.

08:04Yeah, that's gonna be part of it.

08:07You already know you're getting,

08:08they're gonna get at least one rough in the passer call

08:13that you're like, I don't really know about that one.

08:17Like, what's going on?

08:18So you know he's gonna do that.

08:19You know he's gonna flop.

08:20You know he's gonna do those things.

08:22Boomer talked about it.

08:23And so you, as a defense, you gotta try your best.

08:28And I know it's difficult to, when the ball's released,

08:32try your best not to even touch him after he throws it.

08:35But you're gonna have to be able to overcome those things.

08:38That's what Bill would tell us.

08:40Hey, we're gonna have to overcome those things.

08:42We're gonna have to make sure

08:43that we're doing all the things that we need to do

08:46to be able to overcome those things.

08:48It's gonna be a great, I think it's,

08:51I think it's a perfect matchup.

08:53I wonder what most people wanted to see.

08:57What, what they wanted to see with these four teams?

08:59No, did you want to see Bill's Chiefs or Bill's Ravens?

09:03I wanted to see Bill's Chiefs

09:05because I think Josh Allen gives,

09:08I'm no, you know, Shyam loves Lamar as do you.

09:12I just think Josh Allen gives them a better chance.

09:14It gives somebody a better chance

09:16of beating the Kansas City Chiefs.

09:18Okay.

09:19Courtney?

09:20Yeah, I wanted Bill's Chiefs, yeah.

09:20All right.

09:21I can rock with that.

09:23I can rock with that.

09:23Why you wanted Ravens Chiefs?

09:25No, no, I think that offensively,

09:29the only issue that the Ravens give a little bit more

09:34than the Bills is because of the Derrick Henry factor.

09:38You know what I mean?

09:39I know James Cook is good, but the rushing edge,

09:44you know, the running attack is a little,

09:45but I think, you know, it's,

09:50Boomer said that Lamar MVP,

09:53and I probably agree with him,

09:58but Josh Allen's good, man.

09:59I don't know.

10:00Well, I think you have to give it to Lamar though,

10:02because when he dominated in both phases

10:05of the game, offense-wise,

10:07throwing the ball and running the ball.

10:08I mean, I, like, I think-

10:10Right, but he, he didn't make the,

10:12it's, it's interesting because I feel like-

10:15They lead the league at both

10:17when it comes to yards per play.

10:19Right, but he didn't make,

10:21Josh Allen didn't make the mistake,

10:24that Lamar made when it came to the interception

10:26and being sloppy with the football.

10:28Yeah, but that game doesn't matter.

10:29Like, that game, playoffs don't figure

10:30when it comes to MVP.

10:31Right, so, no, no, what I'm saying is,

10:33I don't think Josh Allen does that against the Chiefs.

10:36Lamar still has that, that,

10:39that window of making some of those sloppy mistakes

10:44where Josh Allen has cleaned up on that.

10:46Like, that used to be Josh Allen, like, you know,

10:49trying to force balls in it.

10:50And I think that's the edge that Josh Allen has

10:54that gives the Bills a little bit better chance to win

10:58if it was, rather than Baltimore,

11:01because Josh is not making some of those same bad decisions.

11:05Also, this argument that the same was true for Tom Brady

11:09when it came to getting the calls

11:11that Mahomes is getting, I don't agree with.

11:13I agree with that.

11:14You do? Yeah, I think, you know,

11:15I think Brady had that-

11:17It wasn't as egregious, and Tom, there's no way,

11:21Tom Brady never flopped.

11:22Like, I'm sorry, I will-

11:24He didn't run like-

11:25I will play the role of Chris Curtis right now

11:27since he's not here today.

11:28Tom Brady was not, like, wasn't diving, you know,

11:32into the bench to try to get a call.

11:35Like, give me a break.

11:36But he didn't run, like, Brady didn't run like Josh,

11:40I mean, not Josh, but Patrick Mahomes.

11:43But Brady still got the calls,

11:44and there are plenty of people throughout the country

11:48that would look at New England and go,

11:51oh, it's New England's get the calls,

11:52Brady get, you get near him,

11:53it's a penalty, that kind of, so,

11:55I mean, that's, you know, that's par for the course.

11:57I get it, when we were dominating,

11:59and you got a guy like Brady,

12:01I mean, Boomer doesn't like it,

12:03but that's kind of how the league works, right?

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