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What are your thoughts on how the Patriots handled the A.J. Brown injury? Could A.J. Brown be back against Packers?
"You Need A.J. Brown" What to EXPECT Going Forward? Hunter Henry left game against Dolphins- Concern moving forward? Can the Patriots deal with all these offensive injuries? Or do they need a trade?

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00:00where the Patriots seem to struggle, Wiggy.
00:03You know that.
00:03You played for this franchise.
00:05So certainly first half of the season can be difficult down there.
00:09And the first half of that game was an absolute struggle.
00:13Curtis earlier talking about how awful that football,
00:18that offense looked in the first half.
00:22And certainly had the turnover from Chisholm, which was an issue.
00:27You had the rolling snap, which I don't know how that happens, Wiggy.
00:35Yeah, it seemed like the center never got up on it.
00:39But, you know, as I look at it, like, all right,
00:42that game's kind of in the rear view.
00:43It wasn't the way I expected it to be.
00:47Was it part of the weather?
00:48Who the hell knows?
00:49For me, I think this Patriots season is going to be defined over this next six weeks.
00:55That, like, that to me is the only thing that's going to matter on how we look
01:00and what this team ultimately looks like.
01:03Because when you start to look at the schedule
01:05and you start to look at this next six weeks, that's going to determine.
01:09If you go two and four, we're going to be sitting here going,
01:15what the hell happened?
01:18Well, you broke it down during your lead.
01:20You brought it up with Boomer, and so let's look ahead to the Packers here this week.
01:27And, you know, I guess potentially you can get A.J. Brown back for this game.
01:33I would.
01:34You think it's unlikely the way the coach spoke about him earlier?
01:39Or.
01:39I think it's unlikely generally.
01:41Like, before Rabel even spoke, I thought it was unlikely.
01:43Yeah, to me, this is a massive concern.
01:48Because I think Drake May was awesome, and the Patriots are a better team than the Dolphins.
01:52And Drake put the team on his back in the second half, and they won that game.
01:55And the defense was great, especially even after the Chisholm fumble.
01:58They only got three points.
01:59Yeah.
01:59So, I think they'll be good enough to beat bad teams.
02:02But if you want to do anything like you did last year, you need A.J. Brown.
02:06Well, and, you know, I was not counting on A.J. Brown, I, you know, for a while here, once
02:13he, once they started talking about it being the old knee thing acting up again, I was like, all right,
02:20it might be a problem the whole season.
02:22But the Hunter.
02:23See, I wasn't thinking that way, though.
02:25Yeah, I mean, maybe, listen, maybe it's a week, two weeks, whatever it is, whatever.
02:28But the Hunter Henry injury is an issue.
02:31Yeah, I don't, yes, if he's hurt long term.
02:33To me, just on A.J. Brown to put a bow on that, like, the reason I think he's unhappy
02:39with the questions is because it's a lose-lose.
02:41Because either it's not a re-injury, it's an existing injury that they missed and they were the only team
02:47in the NFL that gave him a first-round pick.
02:49Or it's something that was exacerbated by the way in which they treated his return and he was hurt again.
02:56So, it's like there's no way in which they're clean on this, if that makes sense.
02:59No, and I agree.
03:00Like, I think that the ankle had nothing to do with it.
03:04So, but it could be something that could have been, if it's something that was prior to this, they might
03:10not have picked up.
03:11See, the biggest thing for me is, yeah, I think Hunter Henry is a big, not a big loss, but.
03:19I think he'll be back.
03:20Well, I don't know.
03:21Eli Redden's been doing a good job.
03:22Yeah.
03:23Right?
03:23So, you can have him step up and, you know, get the production you got from Hunter Henry.
03:29I just, the expectations of production that you were going to get from A.J. Brown, you're not going to
03:35get that.
03:36Right?
03:36That was the biggest thing.
03:37So, even though Chisholm looks good at times and Kyle Williams makes a few plays here and Papa Douglas makes
03:43a few plays here,
03:45where your passing game going into the season was really determined about what A.J. Brown was.
03:52And if you don't have A.J. Brown, that is going to be a major problem moving forward.
03:59What worries me, too, is even if A.J. Brown comes back, it's not necessarily going to be the A
04:03.J. Brown that we were hoping he was going to be.
04:06What's he look like?
04:06I get what you're saying.
04:07Like, it's not just, oh, A.J. Brown looked great and then went down with this other injury.
04:12It's he came back from injury, didn't look like himself, and then went down again.
04:15So, and we differ on this.
04:18I think that the ankle had to have something to do with the knee, even though he's dealt with that
04:22knee before.
04:23I think that it must have been, you know, overcompensating.
04:25Yeah, but I've had a high ankle sprain.
04:27You come back from four weeks.
04:28But you haven't had a bad knee on top of it.
04:30No, no, no, but what I'm saying is, like, is, I would say this, like, I'm no doctor, but, like,
04:36I get other parts of your body compensate, but if he came back and his ankle is fine or 90%,
04:45I don't know how that then, like, where does the knee injury get affected?
04:51I think it's more of what Curtis said, the knee injury might have been a problem before the ankle injury,
04:59and maybe they just, you know, overlooked it, or maybe it wasn't as bad as they thought it was going
05:04to be.
05:04But we always knew he had knee problems.
05:06Like, so that's not overlooking.
05:07And if anything, his knee should have been well-rested.
05:09If it's not related, then the knee shouldn't be a problem only after two games because he was out for
05:14six weeks.
05:14It's not like he had wear and tear and were in the middle of the year, and he's played the
05:16whole season.
05:17Right, so that's what I mean.
05:18This was something that if the knee, like you said, he hasn't been doing anything.
05:25So to me, it goes back to maybe the knee injury was a bigger problem than we all anticipated or,
05:33you know, thought it was going, coming when he came here.
05:36So you think even if he didn't have the high ankle sprain in week one, the knee would have been
05:40an issue early on this year?
05:42Yeah, because a high ankle sprain.
05:44Then their medical staff needs to be reexamined.
05:46And this is just my opinion.
05:48A high ankle sprain is not going to affect your knee in any way.
05:52I just, like, for me, I don't get really, like.
05:55So it's just a coincidence.
05:56Well, he also, he could have very easily done something to aggravate it in practice, and it's not.
06:03Aggravate the knee.
06:04Yeah.
06:05Yeah, that's my point.
06:06Well, no, but I'm saying when Curtis says then this is a major problem for the medical staff, like, you
06:11have no way of being able to predict that he's going to aggravate it in practice.
06:14Well, but the rest of the league could have predicted it, and that's why nobody else offered a first-round
06:18pick.
06:19And that's, like, that's where you and I agree, Curtis, right?
06:21If the knee injury was maybe bigger than what we knew as fans, and whether he aggravated it in practice
06:30or regardless, like, well, that was something that, like, all right, going into the season, that knee potentially could be
06:38an issue.
06:38Like, so now you might have to be, like, whoa, do we want to take a run on a guy?
06:44Do we want to trade for a guy where this might be an issue?
06:47Not like the ankle injury was what was going to kickstart it.
06:51That's where I'm kind of, like.
06:53Why is he so angry about it?
06:55And this isn't even us.
06:56Friday he was angry about it, for Abel, that is.
06:58Why is he so, like, cantankerous?
07:02Because it's going to go back, did you rush him?
07:04Did you mishandle him?
07:06But if it's just something that happened in practice, that happens.
07:08He got hurt.
07:08I mean, that's life.
07:09I don't understand.
07:10But it's going to be, like, you can't say that when a guy has a knee injury that everybody in
07:15the league is talking about, because they're going to be like, well, why would you trade a second round for
07:20a guy that had knee issues?
07:22Well, I would say, even if it has nothing to do with the ankle, why is he in the game
07:25when he's playing, like, dog crap late into the game?
07:28And why is he on the hands team at the end of the Jets game on that, where you can
07:31be dove into, like, crazy.
07:32I mean, that's a dangerous position to be in.
07:34Right.
07:35But even if you're totally healthy.
07:36But it goes back to, like, the Trevor Story, Roman Anthony players that you're going against.
07:43A.J. Brown at 80%, in their opinion, is better than everybody else at 100%.
07:50So they're going to.
07:51But I don't think he has been.
07:52The way he played in that Jets game, he wasn't better than the rest of you.
07:55He couldn't catch, like, a cold.
07:57Well, no.
07:58I thought he dropped the ball.
08:00Oh, the Jets game is when he dropped.
08:01I thought he meant the Chicago game.
08:02No.
08:03When you look at A.J. Brown, but that's the way that they look at it.
08:06A.J. Brown at 80%.
08:08Who do you think they'd rather have out there?
08:09A.J. Brown at 80% or Kyle Williams at 100%?
08:13A.J. Brown at 80%.
08:14They would rather A.J. Brown.
08:15Yeah, but that's the way that they're going to view it.
08:17That's the way that every team would view it, somebody at his level.
08:21For me, the knee injury is like, was it more of a problem than we all knew about?
08:27And when I say we fans, because that's where it's going to obviously go back to.
08:32If he's out for.
08:34Do you think he plays before the bye?
08:37When is the bye?
08:38So they have the Packers and then the Lions.
08:41And then the Lions.
08:41And then the bye week.
08:43I would say probably not.
08:46And that's not a good sign.
08:47No.
08:47Because that's not, to me, that's not the ankle injury.
08:51That's something that's going on.
08:52And if it is the knee that, you know, was the one that was causing him the problem to
08:56being like, oh, did they roll the dice on a guy that now his knee is giving him issues,
09:04the one that he might have had issues with wherever he was.
09:08Is there any chance they redo the trade today if given an opportunity?
09:11I think they would.
09:13They would say no.
09:15Oh.
09:15I'm saying, would they do the trade again if they could, knowing everything they know now?
09:20Would they give up a first-run pick for A.J. Brown still?
09:22I think they would go in a different direction.
09:24I think they would go for George Pickens.
09:25Right.
09:26That's what I would have done.
09:27You know, like George Pickens down in Dallas.
09:30I don't know what his numbers are looking like.
09:32I don't think he's having a good of a year.
09:35This year as he had last year, C.D. Lamb's there.
09:37I would have went in that direction.
09:39A guy that didn't have any knee injuries, younger, those type of things, that's the direction.
09:45And maybe they were like, oh, or even a D.J. Moore.
09:47Maybe we should have went that direction.
09:49Yeah.
09:50You know?
09:50I agree.
09:51Because now, if you say, if he doesn't play these next two weeks, then the bye, then if he doesn't
09:57look the same,
09:58we're all going to be like, it ain't got nothing to do with the ankle injury.
10:01This was something.
10:03The knee was really a bigger problem than we all expected.
10:05D.J. Moore made an awesome catch in that game yesterday.
10:08Great catch.
10:09Great catch.
10:10I mean.
10:10I mean, but talk about Buzzard's luck if you're a Ravens fan.
10:14Oh, my God.
10:15First snap with Lamar Jackson.
10:17I know.
10:18I know.
10:18Looks like he dislocated.
10:19And then Tyler Hundley gets hurt.
10:20And then you bring in.
10:21I had never even seen that guy before.
10:23Yeah, he was at UConn.
10:24He looked like he was at my, like, Christmas party.
10:26Yeah, he was at UConn.
10:27But you could just see, like, the Baltimore Ravens without Lamar Jackson.
10:31And it's just a completely different team.
10:33That's why when you have a quarterback like Drake Bay or Josh Allen playing to a certain level,
10:36like, you knock on wood, those guys don't get hurt.

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