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Why would Bill Belichick potentially pick college over NFL? would Bill Belichick not want to try and break Shula's record, but instead go to UNC?
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00:00he were to take the job at UNC or another job. And what, where's the wall that I run through
00:07after hearing that? I hear that. Right. Changed my mind a little bit yesterday. Like, I believe,
00:14Curtis and I disagree on this. I believe that there will be NFL jobs that are available to
00:19Bill Belichick. But I heard that yesterday and I paused for a moment. I thought maybe Bill is
00:27looking at this like a challenge, like he has the opportunity to do a college football program like
00:34it has never been done before. And so, well, if you want to go full circle, where did we first
00:39find out that Bill was likely going to be out of all of this? It was with Robert Kraft on college
00:45game day when Robert Kraft told, was told by Pat McAfee that he knows he has to do some difficult
00:51things. Now, Bill Belichick going full circle with Pat McAfee yesterday. I just, I find it to be
00:59such a dud going to go to North Carolina. Like, I'm sure he'll do a great job. I think it'll be
01:05great for him as a dad to be with his kids and set them up. And he, of course, will have a far better
01:11ability than most every other coach in college football to prepare and to excel. I'm sure it'll
01:18challenge him in ways that, you know, tickle his fanny as we would say. But this, if this happens,
01:24it is the first set of good news for Robert Kraft in a long time. Well, FriscoJack1970 in the Twitch
01:31chat has a question for you and you have to answer honestly, Curtis. I do every day. Then I'll ask
01:38Wiggy and Chime. Courtney is off at jury duty this morning because she somehow got chosen for a trial.
01:45Which would occur first, Bill Belichick wins a national championship at UNC or the
01:51New England Patriots win a Superbowl? Oh, geez. I would say it's more likely that Bill would
01:56win a national championship. Yeah, I'd agree with that. It's really hard. I mean, but still, I mean,
02:01I would say that it's not, I don't think it's the odds of Bill Belichick winning a national
02:04championship. I would put it about 15%. But he could make the college football play. I mean,
02:09he could win the ACC in his second year. Yeah. And then once you're in, I mean, it's
02:15you see it every week in college football, especially you'll see it in the playoffs.
02:18You'd be like, oh, you know, a team that you expect to to to win gets beat by one of the one
02:24of these teams. And especially if you're a good enough coach, now that we see how like important
02:28coaching is for coaching decisions and, you know, situational football. And we see it in the NFL
02:35guys making, you know, dumb mistakes all the time. Coaches, we just talked about Sean McDermott and
02:40the Buffalo Bills. So I think that will I just I don't like I know he loves to coach,
02:49but I'm with you, Greg. I know there'd be an NFL team that would give him a chance. That's why I
02:54think it's more he's using this to show NFL teams. He might look at it like he's done with the
03:00nonsense that occurs in the NFL. And he may feel like that doesn't occur in college. Like like
03:06what, though? Well, we were talking about it earlier, like the meddling family members when
03:12it comes to an NFL team. He may be done with that nonsense. All right. He may look at the
03:17situation here and be like, I basically bled for this place for 20 years, making 30 million a year.
03:24Yeah, he was. Yeah, I guess he was paid 30 million dollars a year and he earned it.
03:30So he may look at it and go, I on the way out, I was kicked in and they did it. They created a
03:37whole entire documentary series to to basically talk about how awful I was. So I don't know.
03:46But there is a chance that I could see that element because you could be tired of the
03:53micromanagement or the like you said, whether it's meddling owners, meddling kids owners,
04:00where you could just be tired of that. And you just love to coach football so much
04:04when you get in a college like the A.D. is not going to bother you.
04:08The president's not going to meddle. So then why is he worried about shotgun son?
04:13Well, but but I think Greg's point is maybe shotgun shotgun son is a meddler. And Bill's
04:18done with that. He's like, I want to I want to, you know, finish my last three, four years
04:23coaching what I love to do. And I want to do it on my terms that I don't want no meddling owner
04:29coming in saying, oh, you can't get that guy. That guy's going to cost you too much money,
04:33blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, I don't know about you, but I would say in at least at
04:36B.C. with Father Leahy, the school presidents are not exactly flexible in many cases.
04:41So the devil, you know, may be better than the devil. You don't. And I would also add on that
04:45day is that day when Bill and Robert had that awful press conference. There is not a chance
04:50in hell that Bill Belichick stood there thinking two years later he would not be coaching in the
04:56NFL. This is a reaction to others reaction about what they view of his ability to lead an NFL team
05:03with absolute power. No, you know what this is? He probably is thinking that way. There's not
05:08a chance in hell I coach college. But I think this might be one college finally having the
05:16maybe the courage to say, hey, Bill, is there any interest you coach in college football?
05:23And he probably is like, well, I never even thought about that. And, you know, maybe you
05:27heard him last night. We played the audio during they said it where he said the the college program
05:33is very similar to the NFL now. Right. Without the meddling part. Correct. So so that could be
05:40the element that he it because the question you need to ask, does Bill Belichick just love coaching
05:48football and does it matter to him whether it's at the college or the NFL level? I think it does.
05:55And I think the fact that we're two years after two years out roughly from his firing here and
06:00he's had been given one interview in the NFL for a head coaching job. That is shocking. And I wonder
06:07if it's the same nonsensical, envious residue that is impacting Robert Kraft's ability to get into
06:13Canton, that these teams, for whatever reason, hate the amount of winning they did hate Belichick
06:18because it doesn't make sense. Bill Belichick should be getting interviews for an NFL job.
06:23Like none of this is like the whole thing is baffling. Why do you think he's not? I think
06:28it's very simple. What do we know about ninety nine point nine percent of owners, the egotistical
06:35maniacs that a billion is. You don't think that Robert has picked up the phone and the word is
06:40out there like, listen, Bill's a great coach, but if you work with him, it's going to be if you hire
06:47him, it's going to be a major headache. But but but Curtis, you're assuming that Bill is interested
06:53in this college position only because he hasn't heard from other owners. Absolutely. You don't
06:58know that. I mean, I don't know anything. It's my opinion. Right. But I but I might argue that
07:04there have been owners that have second handed it through his agent or however they have to do it
07:09and that he might be looking at college and saying, my last, you know, three or four years,
07:14whatever it is doing this, I want to do it in a different place where there's not the all the
07:20nonsense that happens when you're coaching in the NFL. I'm just using the words that were
07:24associated with him yesterday in NBC Sports, where they said he's, quote, very surprised.
07:29Bill Belichick is very surprised that he hasn't heard from more NFL teams. That's I mean, so
07:34that's not my opinion. That's a report. And there's just it's it's like it's staggering to me
07:41that he is not going to be on an NFL sideline next year in a million years. I would have never
07:47guessed it. I thought Bill Belichick was I thought Robert Kraft screwed up and not trading for a pick
07:52and instead of firing Bill Belichick. Yeah. And now we're sitting here and it's two weeks away
07:57from Christmas a year later, two years later, and he doesn't have a job. What do you think his buddy
08:02Nick Saban is saying? Like, do you think Nick Saban is encouraging him when it comes to doing
08:06this? Yeah, there was a thing. Saban said he hated it and got out of it. Right. No, no. There was a
08:10thing out there with Nick Saban, like an interview not too long ago just recently on Saturday. Yeah.
08:16Bill would do a great job as a coach in college. So Bill's an outstanding coach. He's very well
08:22organized. He's a good teacher. I think he relates well with the players. So I think he would do a
08:27great job in college. The only thing that would be different is recruiting. But as you say,
08:31relationship building is not as important, not that Bill wouldn't be good at that is not as
08:36important now that you pay players. I think it becomes a little bit more about, you know,
08:39the money and the deal that you make with them. So it is a little bit more like pro football.
08:43So and I think Bill knows how to manage that and would would do a good job.
08:48Yeah. I mean, the people that are saying the Twitch chat that he was under contract, that's why
08:51he interviewed for the Falcons job last year. So if the if the contract precludes you from
08:56speaking with teams, then how is he able to sit down on the yacht with Arthur Blank and go visit
09:00the facility? Well, maybe because the season was over. When he did that, the season was over. That
09:05was all offseason. So he wasn't technically he wasn't in like a tampering period because
09:10the season was over. And that was after January when what he saw if he if the job became available,
09:16he'd be able to interview at any point. Oh, I mean, I don't know. I'm just I don't know.
09:21He's not currently employed as in a day to day operator for the Patriots. Right. But is he but
09:26he's still he's not technically employed by the Patriots, but he's being paid by the pitch. I
09:31don't know how that works, but correct. Well, the Patriots had a ton of people on their staff that
09:35were being paid by other organizations still. All right. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't really
09:39hold a lot of weight into that. I just think that when you look at Bill and you look at teams
09:46last year, I think that some of those teams that were looking for a coach
09:51weren't in on Bill because I don't think they felt like Bill could
09:56instantly turn around. I think they felt like it was going to be more of a
10:00a a longer process to build that organization back up. And I don't think they felt like it
10:09was worth paying a guy for three or four years. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong,
10:13but if you're an NFL team and you want to hire Bill, you're going to have to pay the Patriots.
10:20So and I don't know for what period of time that would be right. Am I wrong about that?
10:24Not what you would have to pay. Well, no, the Patriots have just stopped paying Bill, right?
10:29He's under contract with them. You don't know what nobody knows how long that contract is,
10:35what it is, or that would be another reason that he would be more desirable by that team
10:39because then the Patriots are on the hook for 30 million minus whatever you pay them.
10:42They might be, or they, you know, it's a, it's another negotiation that you have to do. You,
10:46I, Robert Kraft might say, no, you can't have them. You're going to have to pay me.
10:50Well, they fired him. They fired him. Yeah. It would all just be about salary
10:54compensation. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I'm not sure if he's, he's probably, you know, he,
10:59he would probably be done being paid from the Patriots after the show. I have no clue.
11:03Matt Patricia was given a title that was basically assistant to the regional manager here
11:08because he was still being paid by the lions and the Patriots were on the hook for nothing. This is
11:12one of the reasons Robert Kraft isn't in the hall of fame because owners are so mad that the Patriots
11:17took advantage of that loophole for so long hiring coaches who had been fired thereby getting cheap
11:22labor. Right. So Bill Belichick should be even more appealing to other teams. Cause a coach's
11:27contract is fully guaranteed. And Lee, and Lee, and I don't know if like, like in college they
11:32have bios. I don't, I'm not sure if they have that in the NFL, but I just think that I think
11:37it's not really about the money. I think it's more about the organizations last year and not feeling,
11:45feeling like Bill would be able to turn their organ organization other than the charges.
11:50But I think they were hell bent on high ball. Yeah. You know it just, I don't, I don't buy that
11:59teams. Here's what I would ask the question. If they don't want to hire bill NFL teams,
12:05why? Because if you're a bad team, maybe it's his age. Yeah. I would say if you're a bad team,
12:10right. You need to begin a prolonged rebuild and you know, bill at best is there for three to four
12:14years. Right. So that, but that, that eliminates the bad teams. Well, usually the bad teams are
12:18the ones with open jobs. Yeah, that's right. But that would mean, but, but see, I think there's
12:23still a team that goes, we're just a coach away. Do you, do you think that the bucks felt they
12:29were a bad team when they took, took on Brady? No, but I think that that was an off season and
12:34players can have a more quick impact than coaches in terms of turning the season around. All right.
12:38Well, it is interesting, certainly that, that it appears the discussions are ongoing
12:43between bill Belichick and the university of North Carolina. So we will keep you updated on that.
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