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00:00Hello internet, thank you once again for joining me to talk all things vertical drama and look,
00:04I found probably the most recognisable, most famous face from vertical dramas, which is
00:09the amazing Noah Fearnley, who has kindly joined us, so I cannot ask him all the questions
00:14on your behalf.
00:16So Noah, I'm going to ask you to introduce yourself, like when you meet someone for the
00:20first time, how do you introduce yourself, what do you tell them?
00:23I just say my name is Noah Fearnley, that's all really.
00:26Okay, so can we go back to the beginning, where did you grow up?
00:33Where did I grow up?
00:34I grew up in Orange, Connecticut, I bounced around a lot, I was in Connecticut, New York,
00:42Boston, Tampa, Miami and then Los Angeles, so I've been jumping ship for a long time.
00:49Okay, and are you like a country person, a beach person?
00:53I am, I am.
00:55Did you know that or you're just...
00:57No, I'm just asking.
00:58Oh yeah, I'm kind of, I'm kind of a, I'm kind of a country boy at heart, not going
01:02to lie.
01:04I'd rather, you know, live in the, in the countryside and in the peace, that's where
01:09I, that's where I thrive.
01:11Okay.
01:12So, so, when you were growing up, what was kind of your favourite things to do?
01:18Basically, were you putting on shows or writing or were you playing sports or were you doing
01:23other things?
01:23I was a football player.
01:26I was a football player.
01:27Football was everything to me.
01:29Football was my dream.
01:31I wanted to go to the NFL.
01:33I wanted to play football my whole life.
01:35And then, and then I got taken away from me a little bit.
01:38I got a, I had a knee injury and it was devastating to me.
01:42It was, it was, felt like my life was over.
01:45I didn't know what to do.
01:46And then I ended up finding myself in the modelling industry.
01:49In the modelling industry, I was, I don't know, I wasn't the biggest fan of just kind
01:57of standing there and looking pretty.
01:58Um, and then I found myself, uh, into acting and realising it was a form that I could express
02:06myself.
02:07And, um, and that's why, that's, that's what I, that's what I kept doing and pursuing and
02:12I love doing it.
02:13So, so it wasn't something as a child, you were like, I need, were you ever in any shows
02:18as a kid?
02:19No, no, I was, I was a sports guy my whole life.
02:22I loved competing.
02:23I loved playing sports.
02:23I loved playing football.
02:24I played every sport under the sun.
02:26And, um, and I don't know, I just, it was never something that, you know, show business
02:32or being like in the spotlight ish was not a thing that I've ever been intrigued with.
02:40I like a peaceful, quiet, um, alone life in a way, you know, in a version of that.
02:46So yeah, I like sports.
02:48Sports are my thing.
02:49That's really it.
02:51Okay.
02:52So what is it about acting then that's catchy there?
02:57It's like, what is it delivered?
02:59What is it delivered?
03:01Jeez.
03:02Um, I mean, it's, it's, it's done, it's done, it's done a lot for me.
03:07It's done, it's done everything for me.
03:09I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I struggle with, you know, some, I struggle with mental health
03:16and I struggle with anxiety and depression.
03:18Like a lot of us, you know, a lot, a lot of us go through stuff like that.
03:22And, um, and I think, I think it was somewhat of an outlet, which I assume it's, you know,
03:29an outlet for a lot of people, but it was a version of an outlet for me that, um, was
03:35life-saving at many times.
03:38And, um, it's, it's just, it's changed the trajectory of my existence on, um, somewhat
03:48of a purpose.
03:50If that's not too deep.
03:52I know we like deep.
03:54I don't mind when we go straight to what really matters in life.
03:56I mean, I don't know.
03:58That's just, that's just the truth, I guess.
04:01Okay.
04:01Um, is there, so you're saying it's an expression.
04:04How do you find, um, I guess being on set or being part of a, a crew kind of, is that
04:10a plus as well?
04:13Some people have sort of said that the other thing they love is just being part of a team
04:16on the set.
04:17And I was thinking if you're coming from sport, is that an appeal of it as well, that
04:20you're part of a bigger?
04:22I, I don't, I mean, film is a collaborative between everyone.
04:29Um, although I think where it differs for sports is that it's, it's a, it's a combined team of,
04:37of kind of going against one another in sports.
04:40And I think film is individuals as them, as themselves coming together into one aspect.
04:48Um, so I think there's, there's, there's, you know, things that are similar, things that
04:53are different.
04:54Um, I don't know.
04:55I would say it's a plus.
04:56I, I, I meet so many incredible people and just people that changed my life and them not
05:04even knowing.
05:05Um, some people have no idea how much they've opened my eyes and done for me.
05:10And, and, um, and I, and I just, I love that and respect that.
05:14So, you know, that's, that's it.
05:18Do you remember your first paid acting job?
05:22I do.
05:23I do.
05:23The first audition I ever did in Los Angeles, um, was, uh, um, was I, I, I ended up booking
05:32the job and I, and I was studying for a while before I even wanted to pursue it.
05:37And I, and I booked a job and I was so excited and I, oh man, it was, it was, um, it was an
05:43experience of pretending that I knew what I was doing.
05:48Um, did I know what I was doing now?
05:50I had, I had no idea.
05:52Um, I had no idea.
05:54Uh, and, and, and I, and I learned a lot, um, from that.
05:57And I think I was, I was doing more acting offset pretending that I knew what the hell
06:01was going on rather than actually acting.
06:04And so, um, so yeah, I mean, I do remember it.
06:07Um, it was, it was called, it was called Morgan's Secret Admirer.
06:12It was a, it was this series that we did like, I don't know, a bunch of different episodes.
06:18It was, it was funny, but it was, it was a good time.
06:24And did you do anything momentous with that?
06:25Cause I know sometimes people are like, that's my first check.
06:28I went and blew it off.
06:29Did I do anything, what?
06:30Did you do anything like memorable with it?
06:32Cause sometimes people are like, put the check and I went and bought all the crude drinks
06:37or I bought this or I did that.
06:39I was broke.
06:40I was so broke.
06:42I couldn't afford anything.
06:44Oh my God.
06:45I just moved to LA.
06:46I had no money.
06:47I didn't know what to do.
06:48I didn't, I didn't know how to pay bills.
06:50I didn't know how to afford food.
06:52I was struggling.
06:54I was mentally in the, not a great place.
06:57I was struggling with loneliness, you know, which is, I mean, loneliness is, is probably,
07:03it's probably my biggest fear.
07:06If you want me to be completely transparent, that's something that I've struggled with my
07:09whole life.
07:10And, um, and I think there was so much going on.
07:13I mean, the check just put food on the table and, you know, that was it really.
07:18That's all right.
07:19Well, sometimes that's what you need.
07:20That's the most important thing.
07:21I mean, you've got dinner tonight.
07:24Yeah.
07:24So I have to ask actually, cause obviously you have done a vertical.
07:27Are you a cook?
07:28Is that something you enjoy doing?
07:30Am I a cook?
07:30Yeah.
07:31I love cooking.
07:32I love cooking.
07:32But, and I think actually, if I was not an actor, I would have chosen to be a personal
07:37chef.
07:38I love, I love cooking.
07:41Um, I struggle to just cook for myself.
07:43I, I don't know.
07:45I don't find much purpose behind it sometimes to sit there and cook a whole, a whole thing.
07:49But if I have people in my company, um, I love, I love cooking.
07:54I love cooking the meal.
07:55It's something that makes me happy.
07:58Oh, that's awesome.
07:59So once you've started acting, um, what sort of jobs were available kind of?
08:06What jobs were available?
08:07Any, anything that would, anybody that would hire me, I mean, I went through this phase
08:13of like trying to pretend that I, that I knew what I was doing and try to pretend like that
08:19I belonged and, and, um, I mean, anybody that would hire me and, and I moved here and
08:24then kind of COVID started a little bit after that.
08:26And I was going through so many personal things.
08:29Um, I went through so much, I went through so much and, um, yeah, this journey of, of,
08:35of, wow, this journey has been, uh, it's been, there's just so many things that have went
08:41on in my life that I, um, am grateful for the experiences and the people that I met.
08:46And, and, um, yeah, I mean, whoever would hire me, I would, I would take the job for the
08:53experience, for the momentum, you know?
08:56No, that makes sense.
08:58And that's pretty tough actually being in sort of LA on your own through COVID.
09:01I mean, that, that sucks.
09:03Yeah.
09:04Yeah.
09:04Yeah.
09:04You're by yourself and what do you got going on?
09:07You know, yeah, joy, joyous memories.
09:11Yeah.
09:12I was doing homeschooling.
09:14So I was trying to get a seven and a nine year old to do some schoolwork.
09:18That's quite an experience, by the way, trying to watch a teacher who has no idea how to use
09:22a Zoom, trying to control 37 year olds, one of which is drawing basically penises all over the
09:28screen and he can't stop it.
09:30That was my life.
09:33Yeah.
09:34Um, so next question is when did, um, what was your first vertical?
09:40Um, I think I know, but just give me a shout.
09:42Yeah, it was with, um, it was with Ashley Michelle Grant, who I saw this morning.
09:47Actually, she's, um, an incredible soul.
09:52She really is.
09:53Uh, we did, we did, uh, the show escorting the heiress.
09:57Yeah.
09:57And, um, I believe that was the first one.
10:00And, uh, I was like, what, what are we doing?
10:02What, what is going on?
10:03Um, and, and slowly kept going, kept picking up.
10:06And, um, I've now done 54 shows.
10:11Um, and that was wild because I was shooting, you know, 12, 14 hour days for like,
10:17I would book up just 96 days in a row and I would go every single day, go every single
10:22day.
10:23And then I'd take a week off and then I'd say, well, I got nothing else, you know,
10:26in my life to look forward to in a way.
10:28So I was like, all right, let me go back and do it.
10:30And I would do 54 days in a row.
10:31And I, I could, I, I was, I was very much, um, blessed, but I was very much in demand for,
10:39for it.
10:39And so I, um, would just keep the, I would just keep my days, my schedule just nonstop.
10:44But it got to a point where, which was a negative for sure, where I, I started to lose
10:50myself.
10:51Um, and I've done that.
10:53I've done that multiple times in my life where I've lost myself and, you know, had no way
10:58how to figure out how to get back to that.
11:01Um, so that it was kind of, it kind of started to hurt me cause then I didn't know what was
11:05going on anymore.
11:06Um, so yeah, so there's been positive and negatives.
11:08Um, but yeah, yeah, I've done, I've done about 54 and that was my first.
11:14Okay.
11:14I hope this isn't too deep, but this sounds a bit like what I do cause I work and work
11:18and work cause I don't like stopping.
11:20Cause when I'm stopping, I have emotions and I have thoughts and I don't like them.
11:25So work is easier because then you don't have to deal with it.
11:28So you just keep going, keep going, keep going.
11:29Yeah, I'm a, I'm a, I've, I've been a, I've been a worker my whole life and, um, before
11:35acting, I was a, I was a business guy.
11:37I've started, uh, uh, three or four different companies in the past.
11:41Um, I had launched them.
11:43I've had business partners.
11:44I've had investors.
11:45I've had, um, suppliers and chemists and I've had so many people that I've worked with trying
11:50to, uh, build companies, build startups, build, I was a huge business guy after football.
11:56I was just such a business guy.
11:57When I was in college, I was building businesses.
11:59I wasn't, I wasn't paying attention in class.
12:02I was on my computer building, you know, a company.
12:05And then, you know, after two years, it wouldn't work and we'd kind of switch and I'd find it,
12:10you know, my business partner and I, we'd build these companies and take every dollar we had
12:13and input it into it.
12:15And so I was a business guy forever.
12:16Um, but yeah.
12:19So are you an idea, were you the ideas guy or were you the one like, I will just do all
12:23the work to make you something?
12:24I don't know.
12:25I've always been, I've always been a, just, just a worker.
12:28I've, I don't know.
12:30I've, I just always liked building things and creating things.
12:33And, um, I think both, a little bit of both in a way.
12:41Did it take you by surprise how much you were in demand and how much fans responded to you?
12:47Yes, that was, yes.
12:49Um, it did, it did, it did take me by surprise, um, the demand that, that came in.
12:56We, we ended up at, there was a point where we did get a little overwhelmed.
13:00We weren't expecting it.
13:01Um, and it was, it was, it was, it was just crazy, you know, trying to navigate deals and
13:10offers and all this things.
13:12And then I started working so much that I started losing myself.
13:16So then I got to a point where it was like, okay, I can go work.
13:20I can fill up a, you know, a schedule of nonstop filming, but I just, it's like actually destroying
13:25me now because I have no idea who I am.
13:29I have no idea what I like.
13:31I don't know what I want.
13:32I don't have anything going on in my personal life.
13:34I have nothing.
13:34All I'm doing is filming, uh, another person's life and it was just, it's actually started
13:42to hurt me.
13:43Um, and then, so yeah, but overall it did surprise me.
13:48I was very grateful for it.
13:50It pulled me out of, pulled me out of so many hard times and, um, and it definitely changed
13:56my life.
13:57It put me in a position of, I used to really be struggling financially.
14:01I'm not necessarily struggling anymore.
14:04I can, you know, pay the bills and stuff like that.
14:07So I can be comfortable.
14:08I can be happy.
14:09Um, but yeah, it was, it was good.
14:11It was good.
14:12It really was.
14:14So do the roles kind of merge then having done 50 sort of what makes a vertical or a role
14:21stand out for you then you remember it more particularly?
14:25What makes a role stand out for me?
14:28Um, makes a role stand out for me.
14:34You know, I struggle with a lot of, I'm going to be really honest.
14:40I struggle with a lot of roles that are close to who I am.
14:44Um, I struggle with, if a character is similar to Noah, I struggle a lot.
14:51Um, because it's hard to, if I can't, you know, I need to find differences in it or then
14:56I take myself and I input, I input myself and then I take that and I change the version
15:02and then it ended up, it ends up altering who I am as a person in the moment.
15:07And then it, and then when I get home and I have nothing else, it's like destroying my,
15:11my personal life.
15:13Um, and so I've just went through so much of that, but yeah, I mean, I think it's just
15:18all about finding differences for me.
15:21Um, but yeah, I think that would kind of be my answer.
15:26Um, okay.
15:27So I have to ask you about a few ones that kind of fans particularly like, um, so driven
15:36to love.
15:37Yes.
15:38Grace Swanson.
15:39Grace Swanson.
15:40A wonderful human being.
15:43Um, I always think one of the things you're best at is that kind of old school Hollywood
15:48bickering.
15:52That kind of scrollable fast, kind of slightly, I mean, you know, I've said this, I think kind
15:57of slightly Jimmy Stewart kind of.
16:00And I think that's one of the first ones where you do the pair of you do that brilliantly.
16:04Um, and also, yeah, you, you had a good little action scene, didn't you at the hotel?
16:10Uh, yes, yes, that is true.
16:14How do you find it with that kind of dialogue?
16:17Because you do seem to have this brilliance at doing that really fast paced staccato dialogue
16:22back and forth for someone.
16:24Um, I think it also depends on the other person.
16:30Um, Grace is incredible.
16:32She's a, she's a really, uh, smart girl.
16:36She's very, um, talented and it's hard and I'm sorry, it's in, it's easy to be able to
16:44kind of go off of somebody like that.
16:45Um, she's, she's just awesome.
16:49She really is.
16:50When I, when I think of her as a, as an actress and a, and just a, uh, a business woman, she's
16:55also a business woman.
16:56Um, and, uh, I don't know, to be across from that, I mean, it's kind of easy, you know,
17:04it's kind of easy.
17:06So, so you say basically really helps when you've got a great scene partner.
17:10Yeah, and, and sometimes you don't, and then, you know, you gotta pick up this black and
17:17fix it.
17:18But when you have somebody, you know, across from you, that's great.
17:21I mean, what, what else can you ask for, you know?
17:24Okay.
17:25Um, I have to ask you about this, um, breaking stuff.
17:31Breaking stuff.
17:32Okay.
17:33So Virgin's bucket list, you break a laptop.
17:36I do break a laptop.
17:38Um, you've also thrown quite a few things.
17:41I think there's one, oh gosh, it's one of your really early ones, but you throw something
17:46fated to the alpha, you throw something at the TV, which actually wedges quite nicely
17:50in the TV.
17:51Yes.
17:52Yes.
17:53That is true.
17:54I do.
17:55You've definitely thrown a few mobile phones as well.
17:58Yep.
17:58Thrown a lot of, thrown a lot of shit.
18:00Yeah.
18:01Is that quite cathartic?
18:03Like, yes, it's when you read it and you're, you're throwing a lot of shit.
18:08Throwing something, okay, all right.
18:11And does it always go first take or is it sometimes multiple takes?
18:14I mean, I was a sports guy.
18:17I know how to, I, I got, I have, I have an, I have, I definitely have an athletic side.
18:23Um, humbly to say that, uh, I've been a sports guy my whole life and so I'm capable.
18:30Excellent.
18:31The bonus of having your sports background that it is no problem when the script calls
18:34on you to break something.
18:35I've also seen you bust down a few doors as well.
18:38Yes.
18:38Yes.
18:39I've done it on all of the breaking and stuff like that.
18:44But then one of the ones where you got to do more was an Avenging Heiress Plenched into
18:48Darkness because there was more of an extended stunt scene in that you have quite a long
18:54fight in some sort of basement.
18:57And I think you actually posted that one on your Instagram for a while.
19:02So it was, um, uh, Kayla Brady.
19:07Uh, yes, yes, yes.
19:08I remember.
19:09I remember.
19:09It felt like a bit of a step up in choreography and sort of ambition for verticals.
19:14Yeah, yeah, we, we had a, we had a stunt coordinator that was, uh, that was great.
19:20I actually, I forget, I forget exactly what it was, but I think I was, I got really sick
19:25or I got like injured or I got something.
19:28Um, I think I was extremely sick when filming that and I, and I was, it was really bad.
19:33And, um, and so I think I, uh, I was, I had to take a lot of breaks to be able to get
19:40myself up to be able to do that.
19:43But, but yeah, that was fun.
19:44That was a lot of fun.
19:45She's, she's also really, really awesome.
19:49She's an awesome person and she's an awesome actress, uh, Kayla Brady.
19:54Yeah.
19:56Um, another one I have to ask you about, um, okay.
19:59Royal air breaks my heart in a war zone.
20:05Yes.
20:07Um, I have to ask about the scarf.
20:08How many takes did it take for the scarf to float in the proper way?
20:16A lot of takes.
20:17It took a lot of takes.
20:19That is true.
20:20Um, yeah, that was, that was, um, that was good because a lot of, um, movies that I've
20:28watched growing up and that are icons to me, uh, filmed at that, at that set in the, wherever
20:35we were, it's a huge war, uh, army base movie set.
20:40Um, so that was, that was just great being there.
20:43But yeah, the scarf.
20:44Yeah.
20:45We, we just kept, I went and took a break for a second.
20:49I was like, let me know when you're done shooting the scarf.
20:51Um, but yeah.
20:54Cause did they explain to you?
20:55Cause I came from, to vertical some Korean dramas and it's slightly based on a really
20:59famous Korean drama.
21:01And that's kind of one of the biggest moments in the Korean drama that has scarped whips
21:05off and kind of goes across.
21:07So I think that's what they were trying to recreate.
21:09Yeah, they were.
21:10That's so funny that you know that.
21:12Um, I didn't know anybody would knew that, would know that, um, they did come to us
21:16before and pretty much say that we were, we were somewhat remaking a very popular, famous
21:26Korean drama film.
21:29Um, and we did try to somewhat get certain moments that were iconic to that one to be
21:35able to input it.
21:36So yeah, it was interesting.
21:38You know, that I didn't, I didn't know anybody would actually pick up on that.
21:41Oh, it's very, very good.
21:43The Korean drama.
21:44Yeah.
21:44Yeah.
21:45Um, but I can also see that if you turn up and you haven't seen it, you're like, why,
21:50why are we going on about Scarf?
21:51It's like, what is going on?
21:54Yeah.
21:54It does.
21:55From, if you didn't know, it's, it's interesting, but when you, you know, we're, we're rematching,
22:00remaking somewhat of a film.
22:03So, um, then it made, it made sense.
22:07Um, and then just, yep.
22:10Was it nice then getting to do, cause you have done one or two slightly sporty roles as
22:14well, you did a hockey one and a, particularly the football one.
22:17I mean, obviously it's verticals.
22:18There's not a huge amount of sport, but was that quite nice to have that crossover and
22:22almost full circle?
22:23Um, yeah, I think, um, in the, in the times that I, I, you know, was when the, when I became
22:33very bare, bare, bare, please bare.
22:36Uh, when I became kind of in, at, at the peak of, at the beginning of kind of coming
22:43in demand, if I can say it like that, um, when I started to kind of pick what scripts
22:49I wanted to be a part of, um, I did know that I wanted to get into the, into the, just
22:54the sports in general, sports my whole life.
22:56So I wanted to be in that.
22:58And so then I started kind of reading scripts that had sports attached.
23:04Um, and then I, you know, I, I, I did a football, you know, film and, uh, and then we did hockey
23:10and then, uh, I don't know.
23:12I did, I did a bunch of them.
23:14Um, so yeah, so a big thing for me was to get into the sports world.
23:20Which is really interesting because presumably, yeah, you have your pick of scripts.
23:24So, so what do you look for now?
23:27Like, what are you like?
23:28What do I look for now?
23:29This will get me out of bed.
23:31I will, I will make this.
23:33What do I look for now?
23:34Um, I don't know.
23:35I think, I think everything for me now in this space, uh, is about the fans.
23:42There's so many fans.
23:43I have so many fans that are so great to me and support everything I do and are so genuine
23:48and have been kind of with me for so long.
23:51Um, that's kind of what's going to bring, bring, you know, something great to them.
23:56That's, that's really what's, what matters in this space for that.
24:00Um, obviously something that's, I haven't done before, something that's unique, something
24:04that's creative.
24:05Um, I don't know.
24:07And also I just, I like to work with, with people that, you know, maybe I've worked with
24:13them before or I know that they're great.
24:15Um, and I have, you know, I, and what I'm about to start soon is I'm working with a
24:20couple of new people, um, that I've been dying to work with.
24:23And I, and we spoke about, you know, see if, if they, if we can, you know, get them on
24:28the film and they, they, they said yes.
24:30And they were excited to be, and, and I'm so grateful for that.
24:34And I'm, I'm looking forward to working with, uh, these, you know, these two, uh, couple
24:38new, new people soon, you know, I love that.
24:42That's all you can say, presumably new people soon.
24:45What's your space?
24:46Yeah.
24:47Yes.
24:47Okay.
24:48Excellent.
24:49Um, so it sounds like more, it's more just about what you think appeals to the fans.
24:54Have you identified why verticals have taken off so much?
24:58Do you have any, like, why have they had such an appeal with people?
25:02I don't know.
25:05I don't know.
25:07I don't know.
25:07There's something that just hooks, hooks everybody to keep watching and they do, and
25:12they support and they love and they do everything that I don't know.
25:17They just, they just enjoy it.
25:19And so, you know, you can, you know, I didn't, I didn't know.
25:24I started this when it was a baby.
25:26Okay.
25:26I started this when there wasn't much going on.
25:29I didn't know how much this was going to last.
25:30I didn't know if, if it was going to last.
25:33Um, obviously it is obviously it's here to stay.
25:35Obviously there's, I've been, uh, brought into a lot of meetings recently with, you know,
25:43different people that are getting involved now, uh, coming to me asking about things.
25:49And I don't know, it's obviously staying and, um, there's just a lot going on.
25:55And so I think we do have to make sure that, uh, the audience is, the audience is somewhat
26:03taken care of and they're happy.
26:04And they're, that's the whole job is, that's the whole, the whole job is to make an audience
26:10feel, feel something and ultimately be happy.
26:13It's what else, what else is it, you know?
26:17So what are the roles and that people particularly talk to you about then from fans?
26:21What are the ones, are there ones that you know that they always come up for certain ones?
26:25Or do you find this more general and people just support everything?
26:28I think, I mean, they do, they, a lot of, they, you know, a lot of, almost everything
26:34I do that, they're, my, my fans are, I mean, geez, they're so awesome.
26:40They're so loyal.
26:41They're so incredible.
26:42They're so great.
26:44Um, I mean, yeah, that's, that's, that's just it.
26:48That's just it.
26:49They're just great.
26:50So, whatever, sorry, I was thinking so much on how great they are.
26:57I forgot what, what was the question again?
26:59It's just if there's certain roles that always sort of people always mention to you.
27:03I think it's all of them.
27:04It's all of them.
27:05They, they just, you know, they, they are very supportive and I'm very appreciative and
27:09grateful to that.
27:10So.
27:11Okay.
27:12So what would you say you've noticed are just the biggest changes now?
27:18Cause it's interesting you saying, obviously everyone's now like, it's gone from presumably
27:22when you started to verticals or a bit, everyone was a bit or whatever verticals.
27:26And now you're probably the hot ticket in town of someone who really has been in a lot
27:30of verticals.
27:30And I can understand that you're being pulled into a lot of meetings.
27:33If Noah will know the answers, we'll ask Noah.
27:37Yeah.
27:38I mean, are you saying like where they're going in a sense?
27:42Yeah.
27:42And I guess just what it's like that there's been such a massive shift from, I guess it felt
27:47like it was like a little niche area to now suddenly everyone's interested and wants to
27:51get involved.
27:52Yeah.
27:53I mean, before there was only a couple actors and there was, you know, there was like eight
27:57to 10 guys and eight to 10 girls technically that were, you know, creating films and, and
28:03it was very little.
28:04Now it's so big and, um, you know, you do have a lot of people that have done a bunch of
28:10them, you know, I've done, you know, 54, uh, shows for, for this.
28:17So, um, I have been around and I know a lot of other people have done a bunch.
28:22So, um, yeah, it started off as something that nobody knew what was going on and it has
28:26grown into something that, um, makes a lot of people happy, um, generates.
28:34Um, and money to keep this going and, um, and it's obviously a thing that's here to stay.
28:43And in the beginning I was like, I don't know.
28:47I don't, you know, I'm, I was, I was, you know, movie, movie, movie buff, but it is here
28:53to stay for sure.
28:53And I'm, and I'm very grateful to be a part of it.
28:56I'm very grateful to be loved in it.
28:58And, um, and, you know, I have a lot of other things going on as well, but I'm, you
29:02know, I'm very blessed to be here.
29:04For sure.
29:05You're very good at this.
29:06Cause you've just led into my next question.
29:08If I have other things going on.
29:11So anyone who kind of follows you knows that you've just been doing, I think what everyone
29:17hopes for vertical axis, cause we all know that much as we love you there, obviously you
29:22will have ambitions and hopes beyond being in a phone screen that way around.
29:27So obviously doing horizontal, um, how was that then basically just getting to the
29:34and getting to do something totally different and getting to go and I guess partly just
29:37having time for a role.
29:40Are you referring to what I worked on recently?
29:43Yes.
29:44Yes.
29:45Yeah.
29:45American.
29:46Are we allowed to say American love story?
29:48Yeah.
29:49Yeah.
29:49Isn't the press you're in it?
29:51Yes, it is.
29:52It is in the, it is in the press.
29:54Uh, yeah, it was, um, American love story.
29:57Um, and I mean, it was, it was incredible.
30:03It was, it was incredible.
30:05Um, and I've worked on, on network shows and, and in movies before, but it was something
30:12that was way different for me, uh, in the sense of, I don't know.
30:18It was, I was, I was, I mean, I don't know.
30:23I don't, I don't want to go too deep into it, but obviously what's out is that I was playing
30:29the role of Michael Bergen, um, and I for sure wanted to, uh, uh, tell his story correctly
30:37and, and, um, you know, not, not mess it up, not, you know, I wanted to, to put him in
30:47the light that his story needs to be in.
30:54Um, and so, yeah, so it was, it was an experience that, um, for sure, just, it did so much for
31:02my personal life actually, um, in the sense of, of my soul and my, my healing and my, I
31:10don't know, time.
31:11I was, I was in New York for a lot of months and so that kind of took me out of LA and put
31:18me in a different world and I needed that moment.
31:21So, so, you know, it was amazing and I will definitely, you know, speak on it a lot more
31:28later down the line.
31:31Um, that's just for right now, that's kind of what I have, but, but yeah, it was incredible.
31:35The people are incredible.
31:37The, um, there are a lot of, um, genuine kind people there in that, in that world.
31:45And I was just blessed and grateful to be brought in and a part of it.
31:50And, you know, it was just awesome.
31:53So, yeah, I got a lot more speak on it, but you know, later down the line.
31:58Just, it's just one question just out of curiosity.
32:01So when you're doing a role that is obviously people's real life and it's kind of obviously
32:06it would be an interpretation, do they give you like research and go, here's everything
32:12you can watch?
32:13Or is it very much you as an actor decide I can do that or I can do my own thing?
32:19Um.
32:20Basically how much homework was there?
32:22Is there like, now we're going to need to take all this in.
32:26I'll say this.
32:28Um, I did so much, I did so much research on, on Michael.
32:35Uh, I did so much research on Michael.
32:38Uh, and I really felt like I knew him.
32:43And also I'll say that I was in the modeling world for a very long time.
32:49I know what, I know what goes on in the modeling world.
32:51I know how you feel.
32:53I know how people make you feel.
32:56I know the situations you get put in and, and, you know, and, and so that's kind of
33:02why I walked away from the modeling world.
33:04It wasn't for me.
33:05Um, and so I, you know, I really connected to him on that level.
33:10And I think I was, I don't know, I was, I was very, I, I understood the feelings that
33:20he felt in situations and I don't know, it was just, it hit, it hit home.
33:26Of, of, of the understanding of, of it all.
33:29So, um, I'll just say, yeah, I, I, I just, I wanted to make sure that he was put in a,
33:36his story was put in a, in a correct light.
33:42That's a beautiful answer.
33:45You've done that beautifully.
33:47I'm sorry.
33:47That was my, that's my only hard question.
33:49I promise everything's easier.
33:50Um, obviously you really enjoyed New York.
33:53Was there ever a moment we think, Hey, I might come and live and work in New York.
33:57I've been to New York a lot in the last three years.
34:01I've like, I, I was like flying in New York to film like every month for like two years.
34:06Um, I love New York.
34:08I would stay at the same hotel every single time I'm in New York.
34:11Um, and yeah, I, when I live there, maybe in the future, maybe in the future, but I've
34:20always said in the future, I'll live in New York, but you know, maybe at that time I'll
34:24finally, you know, I have a wife, I'll have a kid, I'll have kids and, uh, I'll be living
34:29in Austin, Texas, maybe.
34:31I mean, you didn't say you're a country boy, so yeah, I can see.
34:35I am.
34:36I, I, I want to live in Austin, Texas.
34:38I want to have a wife.
34:39I want to have kids.
34:41I want to have a family.
34:43Um, and I also want to make movies that, that people feel because I, I, in my own personal
34:52life, I mean, I don't know.
34:53I, I, I live for, I live for people, making people happy, making people feel good.
35:01Feel, feel something.
35:03And so, you know, I really want to, I really want a family to, uh, I don't know, take care
35:09of and love and give them what they deserve.
35:14So.
35:16Talking of families, obviously in verticals, you can get thrown into a family quite fast
35:21with the children that characters have.
35:25Um, how is it working with child actors?
35:28Cause that's quite a, you've got to build a bomb pretty darn fast, haven't you?
35:33I mean, yeah, some, some, some, I mean, they're all great.
35:36I mean, to, to be a child actor and be put in a position of this fast pace in this, you
35:44know, environment, filming environment.
35:46I mean, wow, you gotta, you gotta really have, have some, something and also their parents
35:52that are, you know, with them and, and putting them, you know, and, and are, are, are, uh,
35:59standing side by side with them in, in these situations.
36:02So yeah, it must be really difficult for them, but they're all great.
36:06I mean, you know, we're on this world once we're on, we're on this planet once.
36:10What is, I don't know.
36:12They're, they're, it's great that they're doing it.
36:15And I think, you know, you have to have fun with it.
36:18I got to a point when I was filming that I was like, I stopped having fun.
36:22It was, it was so, it was so life or death for me to, to even the smallest, littlest scene
36:29make it this thing.
36:32And it's just, it's not.
36:34So, um, yeah, I've worked with a bunch of them.
36:37I love working with them.
36:39They're incredible.
36:40And, uh, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
36:44Um, see, obviously, I know you've kind of spoken that a lot of it's been really intense,
36:50but kind of, what are you, do you remember some of the funniest moments you've had on set?
36:54Any ones that like.
36:57Funniest moments on set?
36:58I don't know.
37:01I mean, I don't know.
37:05There's been so many.
37:06I've done, I mean, I did 54 of these things.
37:09At this point, there's so many memories.
37:12I just, I'm living on a day-to-day basis over here.
37:15Yeah.
37:15Um, I'm living in a, in a moment-to-moment basis.
37:19Um, there's been a lot of great moments.
37:21I've worked with a lot of great people.
37:23I'm very happy with how everything went.
37:26So, uh, yeah, I don't really have a, you know, one.
37:30Are there any people then that you're like, it's really bizarre, but I haven't worked with?
37:34Uh, there are, um, I'm, I'm, I don't want to say their names because I'm going to, I just kind of figured out the situation to, to work with them and the next two weeks or the next, you know, two months.
37:52Um, so, uh, the two individuals that I have not worked with, that I really wanted to work with, um, I'm going to be now.
38:01We, we figured out a way to say, you know, and they said yes to do, you know, the film, the films with me.
38:08So I'm very excited.
38:10So you'll have to see when it comes out.
38:13Um, and then kind of, I guess, are there sort of dreams that you'd like to do?
38:19Is there anything like that would be really cool to do?
38:23Dreams.
38:23Um, what are my dreams?
38:31Um, I want to own a studio one day.
38:34I want to own my own movie studio one day.
38:37Um, I want to do a film.
38:42I love the film Jason.
38:44I love Matt Damon's Jason Bourne.
38:45Uh, it's always been a, it's always been a big thing for me.
38:50Uh, there's, there's underlying layers of that that I really love.
38:54Those are, those are really my, my dreams and aspirations.
38:57I don't know.
38:57I want to, I want to make people happy.
38:58That's really all I care about.
39:00I want to make people happy.
39:01I want to make people smile.
39:04I, I'm, I mean, I love, I'm, I mean, I'm a huge, uh, Jake Gyllenhaal, uh, fan, Matt Damon fan.
39:14Um, those two individuals just, there's something behind the acting and behind the, the stuff.
39:23Yeah.
39:24That is, to me is so similar.
39:26Uh, and it's so deep in what I feel and see.
39:31And, um, I don't know, one day, one day I'd love to, I'd love to, to meet those two individuals and speak with them.
39:38And I don't know.
39:39There's just something about those two that I'm, I mean, just a massive fan of.
39:45So.
39:46I mean, I would agree with you about Born Identity is one of my favorite movies of all time.
39:50One of my favorite, one of my favorite movies ever made.
39:55And you can rewatch it endlessly because it's so tight.
39:59There's not a wasted moment in it.
40:01I mean, I'd probably watch it maybe a hundred times, maybe a hundred times.
40:05Okay.
40:05I think you might just about beat me then.
40:08I've watched it so many times.
40:11Absolutely.
40:11Um, but with Jake Gyllenhaal, what, is there a kind of a similar role that you're like, that's the one that I've watched loads?
40:20I don't know.
40:20I mean, I don't know.
40:22I don't know Jake Gyllenhaal's personal life.
40:24But there's something behind his acting that just, I don't know if it's a, I don't know.
40:34I find something about behind his eyes that is very similar to me.
40:39And there's a lot of moments that I have in my life that I just, for some reason, see behind his eyes, him dealing with or handling or going through these same things.
40:53And so, um, I don't know.
40:57I've just, I've, I love that guy.
40:59I've always loved that guy.
41:00And, and I, you know, one day I'd really, I'd really like to, uh, to be in his presence and just, I don't know.
41:07I was thinking they could both potentially play your dad.
41:12My dad?
41:12Yeah.
41:14Um, they could, they could, they could play my dad.
41:17That's, that's correct.
41:18Which makes me feel old now.
41:20Oh my God.
41:20But yeah, they're probably, I'm thinking they must be, they must be late forties, early fifties, potentially.
41:25Have you worked out how to take time out?
41:28A time out?
41:29Yeah.
41:29Like pause?
41:30As in time for you.
41:32Time to make Noah happy.
41:34Cause it sounds like.
41:34I've been doing that.
41:35I admire that you can make everyone else happy, but we want you to be happy as well.
41:39I've been doing that recently.
41:41I've been taking time for myself.
41:42Um, I don't know.
41:45I'm still working on that.
41:46I'm not going to sit here and lie.
41:48I'm not going to sit here and create something that's not true.
41:50I'm still working on it.
41:52I, you know, I, I, I have a lot of, I got a lot of, I don't know.
41:56I, I go through a lot in my, in my head.
41:59Um, I'm still working on Noah.
42:03I'm still working on, uh, you know, how to be myself, how to love myself, how to, um,
42:10handle that.
42:12I, I feel better playing another individual.
42:16I, and then doing another person's life.
42:18It's drugs, struggle with, you know, with, uh, finding, you know, you know, what do I do
42:24today?
42:24I just, I don't know what to do.
42:25And so I'm still working on that.
42:28All right.
42:30I'm still working on Noah.
42:32That's what I'll say.
42:33You'll be okay.
42:35You'll get a, yeah.
42:36It's a lot of, I don't know.
42:38I'm 45 and I haven't quite got that yet, but it will come.
42:42Um, I have to ask about the car.
42:46My car.
42:47Your car brings you joy.
42:49I feel.
42:49My car brings joy.
42:51Yeah.
42:51I feel we need like a, I don't know.
42:54Could it make a cameo in a vertical or does it need to stay separate?
42:56Is it too good?
42:57No, I, I, uh, I work on it in my free time.
43:00Um, 1968 Mustang.
43:02It keeps, I keep it in my garage.
43:03It's not my daily driver, but I, but I, but I drive.
43:06I drive it often.
43:07I love it.
43:08Um, yeah, that's my, that's my thing.
43:10I love cars.
43:11Actually.
43:12That's my, that's my them.
43:13I'm a huge, uh, you know, it's actually so funny.
43:16I was a huge Paul Walker guy my whole life.
43:19Um, yeah, huge.
43:23So yeah.
43:25Best car movie that you've seen.
43:27Would you then say fast and furious?
43:30Uh, yeah, one of the, yeah, for sure.
43:32You know, one of the beginning ones, um, with Paul, with Paul.
43:35Uh, I mean, Paul Walker has been a, yeah, he was an inspiration to me growing up.
43:40I love that.
43:40I love that guy.
43:41Um, there, you know, hit me deep when he, when he, when he passed and, uh, yeah, big car guy
43:48for sure.
43:49Big car guy.
43:50And are you self-taught then with the working on it?
43:53Have you just.
43:54With the car?
43:55Yeah.
43:55Self-taught.
43:56Okay.
43:57I'm not going to lie.
43:58I do have a garage that helps and does a lot of the work.
44:02Uh, I'm not going to lie.
44:03They, they do a lot.
44:04They do a lot of the work for me.
44:05They, they teach me about it.
44:07I hang at the garage on days that I have no fricking clue what to do with my life.
44:12Um, and they kind of teach me on, you know, what to do, how to, how to handle it, um, how
44:17to maintain it and, and how to build it.
44:19So they're teaching me.
44:20Um, but yeah, I've been learning.
44:22I've been learning from the garage that I go to.
44:26But that's, that's, that's like a really useful life skill though.
44:28It is knowing how to, knowing how to work on cars for sure.
44:33I've, I mean, in the last couple of years, I've definitely, I've definitely learned a
44:37lot.
44:38Definitely learned a lot.
44:39And I'm very grateful to that new skill.
44:41Okay.
44:42And then the final question is, I just wanted to ask you a bit about travel.
44:46So obviously you've done New York, um, but the verticals are filming all over now, but
44:51you know, obviously there's, there's other opportunities.
44:53Is that something that appeals of working in other countries, whether it's going up to
44:57Vancouver or going to Turkey or, I mean, I'm actually headed to, I'm going, I'm flying
45:04to Turkey, uh, in a couple of weeks.
45:05I fly to Vancouver a lot.
45:08Um, I fly to New York a lot.
45:11Um, there's been a lot of other places that have, that have, have reached out to me, you
45:15know, London, China, Australia, uh, South Africa.
45:21Um, there's Mexico.
45:24Mexico, there's been so many countries that kind of has there, you know, it's so funny.
45:29And there was one point that I think I counted, there was 19 different countries and there
45:34was one month, like a long time ago, maybe a year ago, one month that like 19 different
45:38countries had sent an email about doing one for them, um, which I thought was insane.
45:43Cause I was like, how, you know, how, maybe I think it was actually more than 19.
45:48It was crazy.
45:49Um, do I want to?
45:50Yes.
45:51Um, I would, but I also have two dogs at home and I'm also a homebody.
45:56So being away, it's hard for me.
45:59I like to be home.
46:00I like to be in my little, my little bubble here.
46:03I'm, I'm happy here.
46:04I, I feel safe here.
46:07Um, I like my home.
46:08I'm a homebody guy.
46:09So, so that's, I was thinking that's the biggest thing.
46:11If you've got two dogs, that's not easy because I got two, I got two babies.
46:15I got two babies and, uh, and one of them might be pregnant.
46:21No way.
46:23You're going to be a dog.
46:24That's so exciting.
46:26Yeah.
46:26One of them, uh, I believe one of them is pregnant and, uh, and I think she'll be having
46:32babies on November 9th if it's, if it all pans out and it's true, um, which means that
46:37puppies would be ready for Christmas.
46:39Um, and, uh, I mean, it's, uh, my family bred golden retrievers growing up.
46:45So, uh, having two Frenchies and maybe going through that process would be a thing.
46:51So I'm for sure going to be working every day for a long time now up until then.
46:56And then maybe when the puppies are delivered, I'll take some time off, be with them.
47:01So that's just like the best thing to end on.
47:05Do you, do you know who, do we know who the father is?
47:08I, yes, I do know.
47:10I do know who the father is.
47:12I do.
47:12His name is, uh, his name's Rolex and the father is, is such a good looking dog.
47:19And, uh, it's just, it's, it's a, I don't know.
47:22It's really, it's a great experience.
47:23And I'm very excited to, to have that go on in my life.
47:27If that's what ends up happening.
47:30I don't know.
47:30I went a bit all vertical then.
47:31It was like a contract dog marriage and the family line had to be carried on.
47:36Then it's all good.
47:38Yeah.
47:38I mean, yeah, but they're my babies and I love them.
47:42So, uh, well, I think we probably should just end there.
47:45Cause that's such a good way to end of just congratulations and good luck with the future
47:49puppies and the fact you probably won't get any sleep.
47:52So probably not, I'm going to have to get some, get some helping, some helpers with
47:58that.
47:59So have you got anyone lined up?
48:01Who's already said, um, I have a couple of people that help me with the dogs cause I
48:07work so much.
48:08Um, I'll definitely have to bring in maybe another person or two to come help me with
48:13the whole situation.
48:14Um, maybe a friend, maybe a girlfriend at the time, who knows?
48:18I don't know.
48:19So I got to figure out the whole dog situation, but I'll definitely need some helpers.
48:23That is for sure.
48:25Um, I just want to say thank you so much because you're very busy man and you've made time to
48:31talk to me and really, really appreciate it.
48:33Um, thank you for all the amazing roles.
48:35You know, I've always been a fan, so you've made me smile a lot and you've made me very
48:39happy.
48:39So if that is your goal, you have a hundred percent already achieved it.
48:43If you stop now, you've made people very, very happy.
48:45So thank you.
48:47And just, yeah, I hope you're happy to, or good luck with all the things you've got coming
48:51out soon.
48:52Well, you know, thank you very much.
48:54Um, Jen, you've been, I think I speak for myself and everybody else.
48:59Uh, you've been such a, so many people love you and appreciate you and appreciate your
49:05energy and your kindness and your generosity and your time.
49:08Um, and it's not overlooked.
49:11A lot of people see that.
49:13And so, um, just from me and I, and I think from everybody else, thank you for, for everything
49:20that you do.
49:20It's very much appreciated.
49:22And a lot of people love you.
49:24They do.
49:25They, and they appreciate you.
49:27They appreciate you.
49:27That's the main thing that I think you need to know as for you.
49:32They appreciate you.
49:33They respect you.
49:33They love you.
49:34So thank you very much from myself and everybody else.
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