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00:00Hello and welcome. Good evening. You're watching Super 6 here on India Today.
00:03I'm Akshita Nanda Gopalo. The next one hour I'll break down today's top stories for you.
00:08We're standing by for a big exclusive with the Goa Chief Minister at the Vixit Goa Summit
00:12being hosted by the India Today group.
00:14But what have we got lined up for you in this edition of Super 6?
00:18As always, we put the spotlight on the big southern stories of the day.
00:22And today, Prime Minister Modi is in Karnataka.
00:26We'll get your details on the show this evening of the pink line.
00:31The metro pink line that's been inaugurated in Bengaluru by Prime Minister Modi
00:35that's led to a political showdown, a credit war between the BGP and the Congress,
00:40between the centre and the state.
00:42Now, even as we get to what to expect on the show,
00:46I want to cut across now to an exclusive conversation with Goa Chief Minister for Mutsama.
00:56The other members of the Karhazuna and the State of Karnataka.
00:57How is it?
00:58You got to have to move to Congress and your hands on your own way.
01:01Now, you say that you will join the 30 seats.
01:04So how many are on this 30 seats?
01:07How many are already on this 30 seats?
01:08How many will be on this 30 seats?
01:11It's why I'm telling you that we will win 30 seats.
01:16How many will be on this 30 seats?
01:20The rest of the rest of the 10 seats of you have also come to us.
01:22The rest of the 10 seats of you have been on this.
01:23You have to look at the ten seats.
01:25Thank you very much.
01:55But in your party, there is such a shame that after winning the other party, people also are prepared for
02:00you to come to the party.
02:02And this is a series of 2017. When you have 13 seats, Congress of 17 seats, then 12 people have
02:08come to you.
02:09You have 20 seats, then you have 8 Congress of MLS. They also have made a minister.
02:14Now I heard that the Congress, who was a member of Congress, who was a member of the Congress,
02:19and who was a member of the Congress, and now they have made a minister. So they have made a
02:25chocolate.
02:26They have made a minister. They will get the minister.
02:28I will not say that everyone, everyone, is the leader.
02:34We have thought that the government will be the leader.
02:36Everyone will come to us, together.
02:39They have no trust in their leadership.
02:42And when they are leaders, then definitely anyone will come and join the government.
02:47We think that the convention by changing slogan, Mr. Egypt.
02:50Zabka Sath, then let everyone have a minister.
02:54We do not have a minister.
02:56Now I am back on the way.
02:58That my leadership matters.
03:01When one of the tall leaders is about 20 describes Narendra Modi,
03:03which is the territory within the party.
03:05this because it's about 20 for 47 vision
03:08again the 20th year vision is now showing
03:11definitely the people will join
03:12we will come to the vikas of the buddha
03:13will come to the next question
03:14after you ask a question my question is
03:16that sir you understand that you
03:20are the original bjp and how many congress
03:22have been done by myself
03:26once the bjp has been arrived
03:27then bjp has been happened
03:29before and after we don't think
03:31after all it has been happened
03:33I will tell you that in the region of Goa,
03:38seven years of the government,
03:39it is not easy to be able to do it.
03:42For many people,
03:43for two months,
03:44for ten days,
03:45you will be able to do it.
03:46You will be able to do it.
03:49What does it mean?
03:51You have to have a record of many people.
03:53So it was difficult,
03:56difficult,
03:57easy,
03:58or you have done it?
03:59I will just say this,
04:02the government party is the party with the difference.
04:05I mean,
04:05when there are so big leaders
04:07and party organizations
04:09are working so well here,
04:13so definitely,
04:14as I am,
04:16the government party
04:16has made it
04:19because
04:20only the nation first,
04:23state first
04:24to work on this level,
04:25the second and third level,
04:28when we think about this level,
04:29so definitely,
04:30the party will continue.
04:31And,
04:31the party has become the president
04:33in 2019.
04:34In 2012,
04:34when under my leadership,
04:36the election has happened.
04:37And,
04:37the other people have supported me
04:41automatically,
04:43the party has continued
04:43for another five years.
04:45And,
04:46I am talking about development,
05:15I am talking about development,
05:28the people in their country,
05:45especially
05:45and
05:45the people in their country
05:46are not
05:51This is a very important thing. I have never forgotten this.
05:57That's why I said that definitely, I mean that Modi Ji has so much support.
06:00I had this line after that.
06:03Modi Ji's blessings are all going on to BJP.
06:05Without their blessings, there is nothing to do without their blessings.
06:07If you have a fight in your netrutvah, then you accept it.
06:11100%.
06:11And if you have a fight in your netrutvah, 100% to the party will give the opportunity.
06:15We will lead the election campaign.
06:18Because now the campaign has already started for 2 months.
06:21We have already been leading the campaign.
06:25The party and the government have already started the campaign.
06:33Now, I would like to talk about some of the goals and goals.
06:37After that, we will talk about the future.
06:40There are two or three things that are very small.
06:41In closed-up actions.
06:42On the other side.
06:42That is the reason for the great people here.
06:42If you are a vote, the people who have come here.
06:46The people who have come here.
06:46Either you are a good candidate.
06:47Let us tell them that, what is a good job is done.
06:50But on the other side.
06:52The people who are a slave to goa and who are a slave to goa money.
06:57They are a different opinion.
06:59With the people who are the right of these.
07:00What is the controversial thing?
07:01That is the contradiction.
07:02You can do better because ultimately,
07:04goa کے لوگ جو یہاں پر ہیں وہی آپ کے ووٹرز ہیں اب وہ کہتے ہیں
07:08کہ جو یہ پرٹن ہو رہا ہے اور جو ایک اندھا دون طرح کا وکاس
07:12ہو رہا ہے اس میں ان کی جو امیدیں ہیں ان کی جو مہاتوکانکشائیں
07:16ہیں وہ کہیں نیچے جا رہی ہیں روزگار کا وہ مدہ اٹھاتے ہیں
07:19کہ سمبانت روزگار ملے تین مدے بڑے ہیں جو مجھے سمجھ میں آئے
07:23ایک زمین کا جو لانڈیوز کا مدہ ہے جس پر وہ گھیرتے ہیں کہ
07:28بھئی یہ غلط ہے یہ وپخش کا بھی آروپ ہے دوسرا روزگار کا ہے اور
07:32تیسرا ہے اویوستہ traffic congestion بہت سارا جو daily life disrupt ہوتا ہے
07:37گوانز کا تینوں پر آپ کا جواب تیسرے مجھے سے میں سٹارٹ کر لیتا
07:41ہو کیونکہ گوہ کا population is approximately the 17 lakhs یہاں پہ جو
07:44tourist آتا ہے the more than one crore tourist comes daily in the state of the
07:48goa tourism management زیادہ تر لوگ پسند کرتے ہیں کہ the coastal
07:52belt میں زیادہ ترے traffic congestion اور یہ سب کچھ and the coastal belt
07:56اور the capital city یہاں پہ زیادہ ہوتا ہے we have shifted towards
08:00the interior side of the goa اس لیے تو ہم interior goa wildlife centuries
08:08باقی goa ہم اس طرف بڑھا رہے جاکے traffic congestion یہاں پہ کم
08:14ہو we are managing with the all types of the traffic management ہم کر رہے ہیں
08:19رہے آپ کی دوسری بات دوسری بات جو آپ نے کہی ویٹی جن یہاں
08:24کے employment opportunities اور باقی کی بات آپ نے کہی ہم last میں
08:28چار سال سے skilling reskilling upskilling کے اوپر زیادہ بھر دے
08:32رہا ہوں اور زیادہ تر بچوں کیس طرح سے either the government job
08:36private sector jobs اور باقی گون لوگوں کو یہ زیادہ تر کس طرح سے
08:40ملے اس کے اوپر through our staff selection commission human resource
08:44corporations یا یہاں کی جو industries سے زیادہ کر کے فارما
08:48industries سے یہاں پہ shipbuilding industries سے ان میں جو
08:51train human resource چاہیے تھا skill human resource چاہیے تھا
08:55اس کے لئے سرکار کی پوری کوشش ہے اس لیے
08:57یٹی آئی ویہو اپ گریڈیٹ ویہو سٹارٹیڈ ویڈا نیو
09:00apprenticeship program we have started with our human resource corporation
09:04جس طرح کے جو پہ انہیں یہاں کے 10th field 12th field
09:09اس بچوں کے بھی چنتہ میں کر رہا ہوں ایزا مکہ منتری ہونے کے
09:12ناتے سب بچوں کے لئے جیسے کہ ہم آئی ایٹی گریڈویڈ
09:15انجینئرز ان کی جب چنتہ کرتے ہیں تو پھر اس انہیں
09:18انڈرگریڈویڈ بچوں کے بھی چنتہ کرنا ہے اس لیے
09:21we have started with a human resource corporation
09:23اس لیے ان کو secured job ہم زیادہ تر بچوں کو دے چکے ہیں
09:27ہاں unemployment کی بات ہر ایک کرتا ہے کہ ہر ایک کو تو government job
09:30نہیں مل سکتا ہے لیکن private sector میں یہاں پہ
09:33ڈیڑھ سارے opportunities available ہیں اور بچے لے رہے ہیں
09:36the third thing you are coming on the land issues
09:39town and country planning act کی 39a
09:41جس میں آپ گوہ واسیوں کی چنتہ نہ کر کے
09:44real estate والوں کی کر رہے ہیں
09:46ایسا نہیں ہے ایسا نہیں ہے ایسا نہیں ہے
09:48actually which is a subjurious matter
09:49پھر بھی میں اس کے اوپر بات کرتے ہوتا کہوں گا
09:51with the people's interest we are acting on it
09:54definitely it will come in
09:56اس کے اوپر میجرز آ جائیں گے
10:00عام آدمی پارٹی کا آروپ اس بات کو لے کر ہے
10:02جس کا ذکرہ بھی کیا لینڈ یوز بدلنے کو لے کر
10:06کہ جان بوچ کر یہ قانون اس لیے لائے گیا تھا
10:09کہ جو عام گوہ کر ہے وہ اپنی زمین بیچے گا
10:12تو وہ اس آدمی کو بیچے گا جو اس کا لینڈ یوز بدل سکے
10:15اگر عام آدمی وہاں پر گھر بنانے جائے گا
10:18تو سرکار کے طرف سے اس کی پرویشن نہیں ملتی
10:20بلکل صحیح نہیں ہے میں آپ نے سمجھو دیکھا وہ سیکشن
10:23تو جو دو سو سکوئر میٹر میں جنہوں نے گھر بنائے ہیں
10:26تین سو سکوئر میٹر جنہوں نے گھر بنائے ہیں
10:28ان کے گھر بھی تو ریگولرائز ہونے چاہیے ہیں
10:30یعنی کوئی بھی پرائیویٹ چھوٹا گوون بھی جا کے
10:31لائنڈ یوز چینج کرنے کے لیے آپ نے دیکھا
10:34تو deny otèneー toen
10:37ان نے سکوئر میٹر خونتی کا
10:42تو انہوں نے desta کنسٹرکشن کیا ہیں
10:43تو ان کے گھر یعنی ریگولرائز ہوں
10:46یا اس طرح کے گھر کرنے کے لئے ان کو ملے
10:49اس لیے یہ سیکشنگ لیا تھا
10:51ہاں ہاں Arete ListerFewPaser
10:52دیا啊 منہ نے çنگ
10:54کوو کنورجن کے لیے
10:55بھی کافوفی بزنس اپورجونریٹی
10:57یہاں پے ہیں اس لئے دیا ہے لیکن
10:59more than Govan and small land use to change this section.
11:06One more thing is that the vision document that you have made for 2037
11:10Vickershid Goa.
11:13It seems that you want to work from first from India.
11:16Because the government has a vision document in 2047.
11:19You are trying to work in 2037.
11:22But the vision document is very interesting.
11:24The traditional Goa businesses like tourism and mining
11:28is in the future of Goa.
11:30Green Energy, Semiconductor or other manufacturing
11:33What can you do?
11:34That's what you are trying to do.
11:37Goa is ready for these things today.
11:39As you said in the vision document
11:42Vickershid Goa 2037
11:43That's why we are doing this.
11:45Goa is in 100% literate state.
11:48Goa is in highest per capita income.
11:50Goa is in highest literate state.
11:52Goa is in highest literate state.
11:54Goa is in the highest literate state.
11:57Already we have achieved almost 90% of the scheme.
12:01100% we have achieved.
12:03That's why we are doing that
12:04the rest of the big or small government
12:06we are on one step.
12:08And even though in the sustainable development
12:10when my chief minister was made,
12:12they were 7 numbers.
12:13Now we have 3 or 2 numbers
12:16in sustainable development.
12:18You have seen the financial management system
12:20so we are the one of the second state
12:23after the Odisha.
12:24One of the best performing state
12:26with the financial management
12:27government in the second state.
12:28That's why we want to
12:30look at Vickershid Goa 2037
12:32which we have said
12:33that the traditional business
12:35which is mining or the ship building
12:37which is already in place.
12:41The mining in 2012
12:42which was closed in the
12:44Supreme Court's guidelines
12:44and then we have
12:46the sustainable mining
12:47already started.
12:48The mining is closed
12:49because the families
12:50are also a big issue
12:52that is going to be
12:52a big issue.
12:52That is a very big issue
12:54that you don't think
12:55environment versus mining
12:56is how the government
12:57will run the path
12:58in this situation?
12:59How will the government
12:59I am going to tell you
13:00one thing.
13:01The people who are sitting in the
13:02A.C. houses
13:04or the people who are sitting
13:05in the PENGIM
13:05or the people who are sitting
13:07in the environment versus mining
13:08I am going to talk about
13:11the mining company.
13:12I am going to be
13:12My father was a mining company
13:14operator.
13:15I am going to know
13:16because mining
13:18through
13:18which people
13:19get income
13:21and which
13:21is going to be
13:23In the A.C. office
13:24I am going to talk about
13:25mining.
13:27Because in Congress
13:28in one day
13:29we have seen
13:31all the environment
13:32clearances
13:33all the environment
13:33that we have seen
13:34in a day.
13:35We have seen
13:35that we have seen
13:35that we have seen
13:35in a day.
13:39That's why
13:40I know
13:40and that's why
13:41I have seen
13:42the Supreme Court
13:42ban
13:43after
13:44after
13:452019
13:46from the first day
13:48how to start
13:49with the legal mining
13:49and how to start
13:50with the sustainable mining
13:52and how to start
13:52Then,
13:53the people who are
13:53who are here
13:55were workers,
13:56mines.
13:57That's why
13:57we have started mining
13:58started mining
13:58now
13:59political
14:00questions.
14:01I feel like
14:03all the
14:04CMs have been
14:05in their
14:06hold
14:06how to break
14:08the opposition
14:08in the
14:10operation
14:10lotus
14:11but
14:11congress
14:12I feel like
14:13the first prize
14:14you are getting
14:15here.
14:17here.
14:18If a race
14:19had to go
14:19but the second
14:22thing is
14:22this
14:22is
14:23that
14:25you believe
14:55you don't want
15:25that
15:55the
15:56to go
15:57quickly
15:58but the
15:59original
15:59BJP
16:00kept the
16:01party
16:02like
16:02Lakshmikan
16:04is
16:04the
16:04former
16:05chief
16:05minister
16:05is
16:06the
16:06party
16:08who
16:09is
16:16for your
16:20information
16:21for your
16:21information
16:22for your
16:23information
16:24to
16:24party
16:24to
16:25the
16:26party
16:26to
16:29the
16:32other
16:33party
16:34should
16:35listen
16:35to
16:36to
16:36every
16:36time
16:36it
16:36will
16:38become
16:39great
16:40and
16:40we
16:44here
16:49but
16:50when
16:50we
16:50are
16:50in
16:50Goa
16:50and
16:52we
16:53thought
16:54that
16:54we
16:54thought
17:01that
17:03you
17:04can
17:05catch
17:05that
17:05full
17:06conversation
17:07on
17:08India
17:08today
17:08and
17:09what's
17:13happening
17:14in the
17:14southern
17:14states
17:14US
17:14prime
17:15minister
17:15in
17:15Karnataka
17:17and one
17:20of the
17:20big
17:20headlines
17:21was that
17:22another
17:23link
17:23was launched
17:27the
17:27100
17:28kilometer
17:29mark
17:29has been
17:43crossed
17:44with
17:44cost
17:45provisions
17:45and
17:45approvals
17:46for future
17:46projects
17:47as well
17:47not the
17:48first time
17:48we've seen
17:49this kind
17:49of a fight
17:50play out
17:50between the
17:51state and
17:52central metro
17:52in Karnataka
18:00bengaluru's
18:01namma metro has just crossed the 100 kilometer milestone with the inauguration of the pink line on Friday
18:09the pink line connects kalena agrahara to Tawarkere it was built at a cost of around 3,470 crore rupees
18:19it offers interchange with the existing network and is expected to ease the
18:23traffic congestion
18:25this city
18:27is a big engine of the innovation and economic growth
18:30this city is a big engine of the economic growth of the Bengaluru region
18:36and the public infrastructure of the Kendra government is a big advantage of the Kendra government
18:44with this idea
18:44the Kendra government is supporting the Kendra government in the city of the Nama Metro
18:48the Kendra government is supporting the Kendra government
18:51even as the city celebrates the inauguration was marred by a credit war between the center and the DK Shivakumar
18:58government
18:58the Kendra government
19:01Metro projects may bring a 50-50 partnership but actual financial burden in the state which is higher in Bangalore
19:09Metro bears the cost of the land about 50 land acquisition for 50-50 but still the central taxes 100
19:16% of the state taxes remain in the state
19:18the Kendra government entire of most costs with us
19:22greater Bengaluru development minister Krishnabaregora claims that Karnataka paid 65,291 crore rupees or 83.8% of the 77
19:33,891 crore rupees approved for Nama Metro's phase 3
19:54the Kendra government has rejected the claim by the Kendra government
20:05the Kendra government has rejected the claim by the Congress government
20:09will be 71,895 sort of 20.8%
20:12you have been in 2013
20:16the Kendra government
20:17...
20:17the Kendra government
20:17the Kendra government
20:19of the Bank of the Nama Metro
20:26the Kendra government
20:27has hit the century
20:28Bengaluru
20:28Metro Network
20:29is today
20:30103 Kками
20:32Two competing claims
20:34one
20:35them
20:35the Kendra
20:37The difference between the Congress and the BJP has led to fears that the controversy
20:40could delay approval for revised cost estimates and future projects of NAMMA Metro.
20:47For citizens, the question is simple, will the credit war slow down the next metro line?
20:53Bureau Report, India Today.
20:59Now, yes, there's a lot of politics that's playing out over the metro and who's really
21:05funded this project.
21:06We'll get to that in just a bit and have our panelists with us, but one of the striking
21:10moments of the Prime Minister's visit to Karnataka has been these images of the born homie, the
21:16warmth, the friendship between Prime Minister Modi and Karnataka Chief Minister D.K.
21:21Shuf Kumar.
21:21It was hard to miss really because at every event that they were together, they were all
21:26smiles and you could see the warmth between the two leaders from exchanging handshakes,
21:30sharing a laugh or two, flagging off the metro together.
21:34The Prime Minister did this last time with Chief Minister Vijay also when they had flagged
21:39off a train together once again when they had held hands, this time with D.K. Shuf Kumar.
21:44Now, all of this, you could argue, is a formal gesture, but the born homie between the center
21:50and southern state leaders seem to be emerging as a new normal because you're seeing this with
21:55the Prime Minister in Karnataka with D.K. Shuf Kumar and the Prime Minister in Tamil Nadu,
22:01with Chief Minister Vijay, with Rewant Reddy in Telangana, with V.D. Satishan in Keralam.
22:06The political equation is looking very different from the days of the old guard in Karnataka and
22:12Tamil Nadu where boycotts was the flavour of the season. The moment the Prime Minister would
22:16touch down, the Chief Minister would skip protocol of being there. Now, however, D.K. Shuf Kumar has
22:21made it a point to be there every step of the way at every official function of the Prime Minister,
22:26as it should be. And what we're therefore also seeing is perhaps a new chapter where even Congress
22:31Chief Ministers are saying we need good ties with the central government irrespective of political
22:37differences and that that will help the state progress further. Those images, by the way,
22:42going viral now of D.K. Shuf Kumar and Prime Minister Modi sharing a laugh or two. Let me open
22:47this up.
22:48We're focusing, remember, on Namam Metro and the pink line that was inaugurated today by Prime Minister
22:53Modi and Chief Minister D.K. Shuf Kumar. Questions being asked of who funded this project. Was it the
22:59Karnataka government? Was it the central government? Sudha Halkai, Karnataka BJP spokesperson and Bhavya
23:04Narasimha Murthy, Congress national spokesperson with us on this broadcast. Namaskara. Thank you
23:09both very much for your time. Sudha Ma'am, I'd like to begin with you because I did see what
23:15the
23:15BJP has been saying very clearly about the funding for this project. The Congress has responded saying,
23:20look, just because a loan has been granted, that doesn't automatically translate to funding from the
23:26central government. Very good evening and congratulations to all the people of Bangalore
23:33for the Namam Metro elevation of 7.5 kilometers once again. And as the Honorable Prime Minister
23:39Modi has told that seven kilometers was there in 2014 and now it has hit the century of more than
23:46103 kilometers now. Now, when it comes to the credit score, what the false propaganda Congress,
23:52as usual, they're doing the false negative narrative, what they've been always building up.
23:56Let me tell you, it is 20-20% of the state and the central government and the rest of
24:01the 60%,
24:01that is more than 41,550 crores, has been taken from the World Bank. And Bangalore being the Silicon
24:10City and the engine of the development and economy, the central government under the leadership of
24:16Honorable Prime Minister Modi has taken this big step to ease the comforts of the people of
24:22Bangalore. And now, let me come to this point. These people who tell that they don't have money for
24:28the diesel to put for the buses, these people who don't have the money to fill the potholes,
24:33these people who don't have the money to give the guarantees, these people who say that the
24:38extra crew of the government is empty, we don't have money, we don't have money. All the while they
24:44have been saying this for everything, not even to give money to the farmers who are,
24:48we have a drought in, which has hit in the past 70 years, and these people have the money to
24:53give
24:54for the metro. This is the false narrative, what they've always been taking.
24:58No, you've given, ma'am, you've given the breakdown, you've given the breakdown in which you've referred,
25:02you've referred to a foreign loan, which is the World Bank contribution that you're talking about.
25:07That is taken by the central government.
25:10Who pays off that loan?
25:11That is taken by the central government.
25:13Who pays off that loan?
25:15No, no, one minute, one minute, one minute, one minute. See, this decision was taken by the central
25:21government, okay? And it is 9,000 was the only, 9,100 odd crore was the only thing for the
25:27land
25:28the state government had to give and that because they have delayed and everything 14,000 crores,
25:32they have to pay with a penalty. So, rest of the amount is paid by the central government.
25:36What do you say, what do you have to, why not the other schemes or the other development
25:40going on in Karnataka?
25:42Okay, Bhavya Narasimha Murthy, do you want to respond?
25:44Why did they say that 84% is paid by the state government?
25:45No, they should have spoken the truth, isn't it? They told 84% is paid by the state government.
25:52It's a big lie.
25:54Please, Bhavya Narasimha Murthy.
25:55Can I come in?
25:56Can I come in?
25:57Yeah, please, please, please.
25:59Let me give you the breakdown, okay?
26:02Please.
26:02The 28,000 crore loan that we took from BMRCL.
26:10Who is going to repay the loan, Narendra Modi?
26:13Who is going to repay the state government?
26:16Or the central government?
26:17The state government is going to repay the state government.
26:19The state government is going to repay the state government.
26:21Bhavya, ma'am, I'm sorry, but it's a national channel, Kannada Beda, ma'am.
26:25Please, English, ma'am.
26:26You should not interrupt me.
26:27English, ma'am, please, it's a national channel, Kannada Beda, I'm sorry.
26:31Bhavya, ma'am.
26:32I'm really happy you said this because every time there is a Hindi spokesperson.
26:36No, you people never interrupt me.
26:37Trust me, no, no, trust me, I do it.
26:40Irrespective man, trust me.
26:41I'm someone from the South, I do it.
26:42Yeah, let me come back.
26:43Let me come back to this.
26:45You know what the guarantor means?
26:47Let me explain it in a very basic term to Ms. Sudha.
26:52Guarantor means this person is taking loan.
26:55On behalf of this person, I'm going to give a guarantee.
26:59So, the central government, which is much bigger compared to state governments,
27:03whenever we take a foreign loan, they give a guarantee.
27:06That's it.
27:07It ends there.
27:08They don't repay EMI's, they don't pay the interest, they don't pay back the loan.
27:13They have taken this big step up.
27:15So, if you are my friend, Ms. Sudha, let's consider you are my friend.
27:19I'm buying a house because I don't have that much asset.
27:22I'll ask you to come as a guarantor.
27:25So, you will come and sit in my house and say, you are the owner?
27:28No, it doesn't work for that.
27:31Bhavya, why did your leaders?
27:33I'm going to pay my loan, so I am the lawyer.
27:35You are just a guarantor.
27:37I am the owner.
27:38No, why did your leader take the cost that you owe my debt?
27:43One point at a time, one point at a time, one point at a time, one second.
27:47You understand the meaning of a guarantor now?
27:50Okay, one second.
27:52Sudha ma'am, do you want to answer on the point of guarantor?
27:54Not central government.
27:55Sudha ma'am, do you want to answer about the specific point about the guarantor?
27:58No, let them tell.
27:59See, we know what is guarantor, we know everything, okay?
28:02Let them tell.
28:03I'm giving you facts, Sudha.
28:04Hey, listen, let me tell you.
28:07See, okay, okay, one at a time, please, one at a time.
28:09Because she knows she's lying.
28:11Ask her not to interrupt me.
28:12Let me finish it.
28:13Ask your leaders not to lie.
28:1463,000 is bailed by the state government.
28:16Aren't they lying to the people of Karnatakar?
28:19Okay, you asked a question, Sudha and Karnatakar.
28:21Who is going to repay?
28:22Who is going to repay?
28:23Central government will repay?
28:24Who is going to repay?
28:25People of Karnatakar repay.
28:27Have the people, have the people.
28:29No, why have you taken the loan of 8 lakhs?
28:31More than 8 lakhs loan is there on the 8 lakhs crore loan.
28:35So, because they took loan and central government gave a guarantee, so that means central government paid the money.
28:41Who is going to repay the loan?
28:44Karnatakar, people of Karnatakar, BNRCA promise earnings.
28:48So, earnings, they are going to pay.
28:51How can you?
28:52Okay, one second.
28:53Let's take this question by question.
28:55Please, nothing is coming across.
28:57No point is coming across if they're shouting over each other.
29:01One point at a time, one point at a time.
29:04Sudha Ma'am, once again, the point that the Congress is constantly raising,
29:08is that a guarantor doesn't automatically mean that you have given the money.
29:13See, one minute.
29:14All the initiative was taken by the central government.
29:18My question is, why these people have lied to the people of Karnataka that
29:22more than 65,000 crores is paid by the state government?
29:26My question is very simple.
29:28All this debate has erupted only after the false narrative, what these people have said.
29:33The Congress leaders, so-called Congress leaders, take it Krishna Bhairagauda or D.K. Shukumar,
29:39what all they've told to the people, that they have paid more than 60 percent.
29:42Is it a fact?
29:43So, what are the numbers?
29:44Let them clarify.
29:44What are the numbers?
29:45What are the numbers?
29:46I'll tell you.
29:46I'll come in with the numbers.
29:48Please do.
29:48Please tell us the numbers.
29:49Because here's what we have, Karnataka has contributed 65,291 crores,
29:55their center, 12,600 crores.
29:58This is what the state government is saying.
30:00No, this is what the state government is saying.
30:03But the fact is, that is 9,164 crores is given for the land and 41,665 crores is given
30:13by the
30:14central government.
30:15That is whatever they've taken the funds from the world bank and 20 percent is given by the state
30:20government, 20 percent by the central government.
30:23No, no, no.
30:24Suta, you're making a fool of yourself by lying on the national channel.
30:2520 percent, 20 percent is given by the central government.
30:3020 percent is given by the state government.
30:32Suta, you're making a fool of yourself by lying on the national channel, please.
30:35One at a time, please.
30:36One at a time.
30:37Bhavya, Bhavya, your response.
30:39The rest is taken by the world bank.
30:40Okay, Suta, ma'am, please hold on.
30:42You people are making a fool of yourself, Bhavya.
30:44You people are making a fool of yourself.
30:45Please hold on.
30:46Bhavya, Bhavya, please make your coin.
30:48We'll get into a shouting fest, please.
30:50No shouting fest, please.
30:51Bhavya, this is your time.
30:52Go ahead.
30:5512,000 crore is what central government gave.
30:58You are adding 28,000 crore loan to central government grant.
31:02No, that's not how it works.
31:04The loan is supposed to be repaid.
31:06Will central government pay the 28,000 crore rupees?
31:10No.
31:11We, the people of Karnataka, will pay.
31:14So central government did not contribute 41,000 crores.
31:17Central government only gave 12,000 crores.
31:22That's it.
31:23You cannot steal credit like that.
31:25Okay, but let me highlight.
31:27Bhavya, let me also highlight to you what the BGP has been saying.
31:35It's not in the central government.
31:38It's not in the central government.
31:38It's not in the central government.
31:40It's just the government of Karnataka.
31:40Bhavya, just hold on, please.
31:42Give me a minute.
31:43Tejasvi Surya, while holding a press conference,
31:45asked this question of the Congress.
31:46I'd like your response.
31:47Asking, essentially, why when other states go ahead and use stamp duty,
31:53property revenues to support metro projects, development charges,
31:56why didn't Karnataka do that?
31:57Why did they bring in additional sources of metro revenue?
32:01We have our own model.
32:03Not every, every state has to follow one.
32:05But that's what led to the borrower.
32:06Why should we do that?
32:07No, no, no.
32:08Why should we?
32:08One second.
32:09The state, the stamp duty, everything comes from across Karnataka.
32:13How can we use that completely on a Bangalore infrastructure?
32:16No, but that's how it works.
32:18Whatever loan we take, the Bangalore infrastructure, whatever income comes in BMRCL,
32:23they will pay.
32:23That's how a sustainable model is done.
32:26A loan is sustainable.
32:27You're saying that that's more sustainable.
32:29Some other state might follow a different model.
32:30We are not going to follow that.
32:33Sudha, your response.
32:34Yeah.
32:35Okay.
32:35Now, let me come into this.
32:36Now, after these three years of the formation of the Congress government in Karnataka,
32:41the inflation right has reached to the sky.
32:42And when she's talking about the stamp duty handle, it has increased for more than 500
32:47times.
32:48Okay.
32:49Now, all the prices have been increased from milk, bus fares to alcohol and everything.
32:54More than 200 types of fares have been increased and taxes have been increased and the farmers
32:58subsidies, everything has been canceled till date.
33:01My question is, they are talking about the sustainability of the Bangalore or the state.
33:06How are they going to sustain?
33:08Where is the money?
33:08They're saying the extractor is empty.
33:10What about the 4,50,000 budget?
33:13What they have allocated?
33:14What about the 8.5 lakh loan?
33:16What they have taken?
33:17The guarantee amount.
33:18And they have taken more than 32,000 crores extra money from the increase in the price
33:24act from the people of Karnataka.
33:25That is more than half of the guarantee scheme amount what they've given.
33:28So, where is all the money gone?
33:30They absolutely, when it comes to farmers, they're saying,
33:33we don't have the money.
33:34When it comes to diesel, we don't have money to put diesel for the buses.
33:39I mean, what are the price hikes, yeah?
33:41Huh?
33:4132% price hike for the buses and more than 20 rupees price hike in past three years for the
33:47milk.
33:47One liter milk that, imagine, 600 rupees is increased per month if a minimum one liter
33:52milk is taken by one family.
33:54Okay.
33:54Look at the bus fares and electricity fares, everything.
33:57This is the sustainability of the state.
33:59Okay, Bhavya, your final response before I wrap this up.
34:01You know, I don't even know why she brought up the price hike when she was caught red-handed.
34:06No, she's suggesting that the state coffers are empty.
34:08She's suggesting that the state coffers are empty.
34:10It's bad financial planning by Karnataka.
34:14So, if you want to discuss price, then we can have another debate.
34:19Okay, and whatever the milk price, it is definitely for the sustainability of the state.
34:24Sustainability.
34:24This is how you're going to maintain the sustainability of the state, Bhavya?
34:28This is how you're going to maintain that?
34:30See, this woman, she's not even letting me speak.
34:32Yeah, Sudham, just hold on, please.
34:34Let her finish.
34:34It's a closing comment.
34:35Let her finish, please.
34:36I am super quiet.
34:37She doesn't even let me talk.
34:38Go ahead, go ahead.
34:38We will answer.
34:39Go ahead.
34:41Now, you're talking about the price, Sudha.
34:43Do you know how economy works?
34:46How much is the price of a petrol or the diesel?
34:48I'm just talking about it on diesel.
34:50Don't let her finish.
34:50Overnight.
34:51You think transport charges doesn't apply?
34:53When petrol and diesel prices are increasing, every commodity, it automatically increases.
35:01So, first, let's start from there.
35:03Who is responsible for that?
35:05Do you know the price of petrol and diesel today?
35:08Or should I tell you?
35:10So, let's not even get into that debate.
35:12Come back to, coming back to Metro.
35:13I have given you a proper breakdown of 1,000 crore safety on its head.
35:19Okay, I'm wrapping this up.
35:211 lakh crore amount has taken the burden to safeguard the people of Karnataka and India as well for the
35:25petrol engine.
35:26I'm wrapping this up.
35:27Ultimately, I will say this.
35:28Congratulations to both of you because we now have the pink light of the metro inaugurated.
35:34Irrespective of who has, you know, ensured it's done.
35:38Thank you to both of you, the centre and the state for making this possible because Bengaluru needs it.
35:43The people of Karnataka deserve it more.
35:44And today, Karnataka is second on the metro line.
35:46Karnataka people deserve it more and not 9% of the local government.
35:48Look, I thought I could get both of you on the same page on this.
35:53Clearly, I can't.
35:53They are the owners.
35:54I tried to get the BJP and the Congress on the same page that at least we're welcoming an additional
36:00stretch of the number metro in Bengaluru.
36:02I'll wrap this up.
36:03Thank you both very much for your time.
36:04Sudha Halkai and Bhavya Narsimov.
36:09Okay, heated debate.
36:10The Karnataka metro project triggering this big centre versus state showdown.
36:14But let's move on now.
36:15Talk about news from Tamil Nadu where we saw Chief Minister Vijay with little talapathis, if you will, this Children's
36:23Day.
36:23Tamil Nadu Chief Minister turned up at a school in Kolatur.
36:27That's not a coincidence, spending the day with his youngest fans.
36:30From sharing smiles and distributing guris to sitting down for a meal with their children.
36:35These are some of those viral images from the celebration.
37:01Tamil Nadu witnessed its first Children's Day celebrations under Chief Minister C. Joseph Vijay on Friday.
37:08From personally distributing cakes and greeting cards to spending time with school children,
37:13in Kolatur, the Chief Minister made sure the day was special for the little ones.
37:25Cakes were distributed to over 61.84 lakh students across the state.
37:31Chief Minister Vijay also penned his wishes on drawings by students.
37:36But the celebrations were not just about gifts and greetings.
37:42Chief Minister inspected the school kitchen and checked the food supplies to ensure children
37:46were being served hygienic and nutritious meals.
37:54And while Vijay had surprises for the children, the little ones had something for him too.
37:59From handwritten letters to their heartfelt messages, children made sure that the
38:05Chief Minister took home a few special memories.
38:12State Ministers Basi Anand and Adhavarjuna also joined the celebrations.
38:21Minister Adhavarjuna has come inside this classroom wishing the students here for happy Children's Day.
38:27He's there distributing cake and greeting card and a chocolate.
38:31It's quite gleeful the kind of atmosphere that we're witnessing here.
38:35He's come inside to personally give a sweet box hamper, some sort of a hamper on the occasion of Children's
38:42Day.
38:42It's tomorrow actually, but today is Friday and tomorrow is the school holiday.
38:46And therefore, it's early Children's Day here in Tamil Nadu.
38:50What are you doing here?
38:53Chocolate and biscuit and cake and card and pouch.
39:01Have you done it?
39:02Chocolate and cake and chocolate?
39:03Yes, I'm eating right now.
39:07What are you doing here?
39:08How are you doing here?
39:09You have chocolate, biscuit, cake and pouch.
39:21For children, it's often the little moments, the smiles, the hugs and the memories that make a day truly special.
39:28And Vijay did that for them.
39:31With Anaga Keshav, Bureau Report, India Today.