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Did Quinn masterfully manipulate the clock, or did Harbaugh simply hand the Commanders the game?

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00:00think responsibly and the question is simple did dan quinn out coach john harbaugh last night
00:05let me go to the poll and i'm gonna answer yes i thought down the stretch the commanders were
00:11in a position a few times to come back and win the game and i thought harbaugh had a couple
00:17opportunities to salt the game away and he went conservative now going for it on fourth down
00:23would have been super controversial much like when dan campbell did it a couple weeks ago but
00:27they would have got the ball back if they got stuffed and if they didn't get stuffed they
00:32would have continued to drive and eaten up more clock and then i also think it's just a very
00:37conservative way where you just run run run uh you'll see a lot of teams sometimes you just need
00:44one more first down really one first down and you win the game a lot of times you'll see teams
00:49expecting that blitz run a play action and a quick little you know screen pass or something like that
00:55on second down like you'll run on first down to force them to do a timeout but then on second
00:59down you'll run that play action and i just don't think he was brave he played it uber conservative
01:05then he got burned when his punter it's a 13 yard classic boomer coach move just run run run and
01:12and
01:13try to pick it up that way and it blew up in his face and look they stopped the commanders
01:18the first
01:19time interception stopped them the second time interception but they gave the commanders a third
01:23chance to win it and they did yeah i i don't know i guess you could say dq uh out
01:30coached him i don't
01:31feel strongly one way or the other on it to be honest with you i think they outplayed players
01:35outplayed them they outplayed the giants um dq did a great job jumping in there without even waiting
01:40for any replay or anything saying that winston didn't get that first down yeah um that you know
01:45that was pretty obvious that was everybody's instinct i think watching that like how on earth did you give
01:49him that um so that was that was yeah i mean if you're a giant fan you might want to
01:54run scadaboo
01:55there right maybe you want if you want short yardage that's why they bring james in i know and they
02:01got
02:01that the first time but i i probably would rather have scadaboo but if you want to say dan quinn
02:06i'll
02:07coach them sure they outplayed him and i'll coach them i thought the guys were pretty disciplined there
02:11were still a couple uh pre-snap penalties i see baldinger is raving about um brandon coleman though his
02:17work at left tackle i think on the whole the offensive line did a great job keeping jayden
02:22pretty clean only sacked the one time right i haven't studied all the stats um but and here's
02:29the other thing the last two games they've cut down on the penalties they only had four last night
02:32yeah 17 yards yeah that's good that's big yeah doing a little bit better there and again put him
02:37in a bad spot there i can't remember when it was in the game but when they had the third
02:42and 25 or
02:43big big moment for ben sinnet and and jp and i the guys we were talking about during the break
02:49so not only did chig go out there for a little bit came back uh but with colson yankoff being
02:55out
02:55they had no choice they had to go to sinnet and he showed his athleticism and raw ability and why
03:01he
03:01was a second round draft pick because i'm sure he's got measurables and was given an opportunity to
03:07make a couple plays like i'm not a big advocate of hurtling over a guy uh but it worked out
03:11it shows
03:12you the athleticism big big big big day for him he answered the bell when he had his opportunity
03:17big time he hasn't really gotten those opportunities this year or in this first three years that was
03:23really nice to see um again defensively sunny styles has flashed at various times and people
03:28been raving about him all season for me that was his most impressive game to me you know i'm not
03:33i'm
03:33no defensive expert um but he just was all over the field he got beaten on particular plays like the
03:39touchdown was sunny styles was just a hair late yeah uh jj mccarthy got that in just i mean snuck
03:47it in between two defenders yeah and then if you look cakes was talking about we're laughing we have
03:51them on the show sometimes because we kind of get a kick out of his trolling but that guy first
03:56round
03:56mock was ripping sunny styles on all of the touchdowns and he was getting beaten on a block
04:02but the guy had 13 tackles and made a huge yes huge play i think jj mccarthy wouldn't have made
04:07it
04:07to the first down even if sunny styles let's say possible but by getting him that far behind the
04:13line of scrimmage forced him to punt he also got he didn't get the sack but he did truck devon
04:17singletary early in the game when he tried to you know who stood him up stood him up one time
04:22he had a good before jj to throw it out of bounds but also on the last play on douglas's
04:27pick yeah
04:27sunny got in there and got his hand on uh jj and i think it affected the throw a little
04:33bit
04:33might have cut it a little short no it was an excellent game yeah 13 tests offensive line mock
04:37he's clueless was actually fantastic so they gave up one sack they only gave up two quarterback hits
04:42yeah arvel reese did have 13 tackles but zero quarterback hits cave on thibodeau zero quarterback
04:49hits uh abdul carter one quarterback hit and on the they have guys who can get after the quarterback
04:55arvel reese coming off a three sack game and they pretty much blanked him a guy who was just
04:59kind of walking the street who's who sealed the game for them last night was rasul douglas
05:03yeah he just has a nose for picking off the ball he's got three interceptions this season through
05:09what nine games at this point that's a that's a good add to what had been a beleaguered secondary
05:14hey hey did you notice during the post-game interviews this was just my little interpretation i felt
05:21like jayden didn't want to use the term winning time moments like he was about to say it he pulled
05:27himself back from saying it probably because he's aware of all the criticism lately no and that was
05:32kind of the slogan one of the slogans during the 2024 season i guess i wasn't paying attention that
05:37closely no it just i think he's also just a forward-thinking guy he doesn't want to focus on
05:42what happened in 2024 and rehash whatever the old slug line was he's about what's happening now he looked
05:49like a 500 pound gorilla was off of his back during that post-game interview on amazon yeah yeah
05:56it was massive for him i but you know stefan digg said uh he never wavered he actually compared him
06:03to kobe he said there's a big article on espn that kime wrote about his obsession with kobe bryant
06:10how he talks to lebron james how he talks to a couple other stars including peyton manning tom brady
06:15but he loves he's a he's a mamba guy mama mentality he was clearly frustrated with himself that he
06:22threw those interceptions but he had the poise he didn't back down and it led him to the game
06:27winning drive which was massive in a must-win situation by far most exhilarating most important win
06:35of the season it was fun to see uh payton's brother eli go home probably with the frown on his
06:41face
06:41he was there watching the game yeah i drive by his house all the time when i visit my brother
06:46oh by
06:46the way they're so lucky that the weather that was hitting i know before the game didn't happen
06:52during the game i know because it was massive downpours they pulled the guys off the field it
06:57was crazy weather but like throughout the game there might have been like some sprinkles some light
07:03rain but it wasn't anything like no it was happening there was lightning i mean yeah there was no one
07:08was
07:08allowed in the stadium yeah all right nobody wants to give dq ret just looking at the early votes yeah
07:14you know 66 are saying no and here's a typical response um anything that gives oxygen to keeping
07:23that buffoon dan quinn for a fourth year is a disaster i understand why people like that that's
07:28like us like seeking validation for taking out the trash like we're supposed to take out the trash
07:35yeah you know what i'm saying but the question is did he outcoach harbaugh last night he's doing it
07:39because jp's uh obsessed with going forward on fourth down yeah and harbaugh didn't do it in that
07:43when he was deep in his own territory also dan dan is considered a buffoon coach and he just outcoached
07:50you know someone who's just been getting flowers all season yeah good yeah
07:57let's not give him too much credit but that it's more about what harbaugh didn't do than about
08:03what dq did i think that's where jp's coming but i also think they look they didn't burn timeouts
08:08earlier and you can say well that's what you're supposed to do right but they were able to
08:12manipulate the clock so that jayden had plenty of time when i go to the bathroom and i hit the
08:17urinal do i get credit for that i mean you're supposed to hit the urinal everybody wants to just
08:22it was kind of coaching 101 but the david blau thing would have i would have been irate if they
08:28lose
08:28that game by possession if they don't score at the end of the first half right the question is
08:32did he out coach harbaugh yesterday it's not whether he's a better coach i don't know i think
08:38he did it was just the whole staff i mean the whole staff i'm not going to give just dan
08:42quinn credit
08:43i mean the whole staff has to get a piece of head coach that's fine he's got guys on him
08:47when they
08:48lose that's true and he we should but he's also leaning on other guys i don't know what he did
08:52that
08:52was extraordinary they had a game plan and it worked yeah it worked felt he's why he laughing
08:59i don't know i thought it was pretty obvious he did i thought so too i mean he did he
09:05did his job
09:06we crush him for the the end of the giants game um i know what did he do that stood
09:12out that's all
09:13the challenge the challenge was good i i credited him for that the time management was i thought was
09:19was splendid yeah i guess at the end of the first half for the first half and i'd say i'd
09:25also say
09:25for the for the end of the game as well i mean i just i he coached a really good
09:30game a really good
09:31game for someone who's just been getting dragged getting dragged i think he did his job yeah i would
09:37agree but you could give him credit it's fine i it's fine i don't care you have a lot of
09:42animus
09:43towards david blau and dan quinn i don't have much regard for black i don't have any idea what the
09:47theme of our offense is i never know what we're gonna get we had an opportunity to step on their
09:51throats in the second half getting the you know score in halftime come back double dip and i think
09:57it was a three and out i mean whatever it was you mean after the uh half time after the
10:01half time
10:01but after the fumble also that was an opportunity this should be a theme going forward get the ball
10:06more to antonio williams because that dude separates i just he's a playmaker well and also digs
10:12digs too well digs is targeted 10 times yeah yeah that's what we needed it wasn't until late
10:17the drive you're upset by the way to start the second half was run on first down rashad white
10:23got stuffed maybe lost a yard then jayden took a sack yes so then it was third and super long
10:30then they had to delay a game it was a nightmare so that was i think their third pre-snap
10:34penalty
10:34of the day total night and then they just gave up and ran to eckler for three yards they needed
10:39some
10:39room for tress what were you going to say about these i just i don't understand how how this team
10:44and dan and jayden and and everything has become sort of a a punching bag for around the league
10:50for mismanagement of time and and downs and and all and points and now and now they've done something
10:58to change the narrative well they did what they were supposed to do well exactly that's how do you
11:04want to give them flowers okay you can i guess you can it's just for this particular game they got
11:08it kind of jumped out at a lot of fans including myself maybe not to you that harbaugh kind of
11:13botched
11:14things played it so super conservative i think more often than not they the giants would win
11:20that the way that scenario plays out more often not they probably get a first down i don't know
11:26but we're glad they didn't they didn't last keeps the season afloat get to play the music i get to
11:33play this music instead of titanic music which is always i think to me the best coach on the field
11:39yesterday and i don't know anything but me just sitting in my chair was derante jones yeah
11:42that to me was the best coach he was setting me let's not act like they just shut down the
11:48giants
11:48the giants aren't a prolific offense jayson mccarthy played pretty good the first couple drives from
11:53the giants they were running up and down the field got lucky with the missed field goal
11:57i think you're cutting derante too much second drive skydeboos running all over i've seen way too
12:01many games where we're just passive we lay off guys hell just last week we were you know amos is
12:0710 yards off a guy uh on a critical what fourth down play i i i just love the way
12:13they closed the
12:14giants had 400 yards of offense they had more offense than the commanders yeah i thought derante was
12:19the best coach i don't know what to tell you they forced a couple turnovers so that's huge
12:23and they closed out the game but giving up 400 yards to the new york giants that's not great
12:29but you want to give them his flowers it's fine to me i think dan quinn it's a win to
12:34me it's a win
12:35take the win and enjoy it i think this guy who tweeted us at junks radio is right he goes
12:39yes
12:39dq was the better coach but anyone who says no is just not being fair but one game i mean
12:46i just don't
12:46know what if you're asking me who would i rather have as my coach harbaugh or quinn i mean it's
12:51not
12:51even a discussion of course that's not the question

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