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Jeremy White and Joe DiBiase kick things off today by dissecting the Bills big trade deadline acquisition, Amani Hooker! They start off by explaining why it’s exactly the kind of move that the Bills needed to make. Sneaky Joe highlights the fact that Hooker is signed to a deal with term left which makes him a much more attractive acquisition. They also emphasize the fit with Bishop, the cost of acquisition, and more!
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00:00Bills trade for Monty Hooker, and good. Good job.
00:04Yes. Very much so.
00:06Very much so. Totally, totally satisfies the hunger for a good, sizable trade.
00:12Good job.
00:13Yeah. Very happy with the results of yesterday.
00:17Good player, it seems.
00:19And you know me, Joe. I like to sometimes do the...
00:22I don't need to watch the film. I'll look at the contract,
00:24and the contract will tell me what kind of player I've got.
00:26Right?
00:27When the Bills cut C.J. Gardner-Johnson,
00:30one thing that I tweeted about, talked about on the air,
00:34was often your, hey man, low-risk, high-reward signings deliver low rewards.
00:42That was C.J. Gardner-Johnson.
00:43The Bills have been living in that safety spot in the dollar bin.
00:50The bargain bin.
00:51The bargain bin.
00:52Taylor Rapp, $3 million per year.
00:53Mike Edwards, $1 million per year.
00:55DeMar Hamlin coming back all the time on like a league minimum.
00:58Even C.J. Gardner-Johnson.
00:59Like, it's been these low-level contracts for the safety position since Poyer and Hyde,
01:05and they've kind of played it like it doesn't matter that much,
01:09outside of Cole Bishop, which is a good investment.
01:11They're getting by.
01:12They're trying to get by.
01:13And here comes Amani Hooker, and this guy makes money.
01:16He is paid.
01:17He was drafted.
01:18He's good.
01:19His team re-signed him, and he's on a contract that pays him real safety money.
01:25Thirteen and a half AAV.
01:29Four times what C.J. Gardner-Johnson was.
01:31You have upgraded in a very, very big way.
01:34I know, like, there are some overpaid players in the league, but for me, very simple.
01:39What's the guy make?
01:40He makes a lot of money.
01:41He's probably pretty good.
01:41That's a really good way to look at it.
01:44But it's, you make a, not to make a fantasy football comparison,
01:47but you make your dynasty trade with a group.
01:49You go in and check the fantasy pro's score.
01:52I'm like, oh, this guy's a 73, and the guy I had was a 12?
01:56Yeah.
01:56I've done well.
01:57I don't have to look at much more than that.
01:59Of course, we will.
02:00And we'll talk about the fit and all that.
02:03But they didn't mortgage their future for all the pearl clutchers.
02:08They spent a draft pick for a guy that might make a difference next year
02:13in the second round pick.
02:14Next year's Davis Enigman-Oson or whatever that might be.
02:16Yep.
02:17Instead, they got a starting player for multiple seasons at a position of need.
02:20That's a job well done.
02:22They acquired the 12th highest paid safety in the NFL by average per year yesterday.
02:27And before that, C.J. Gardner-Johnson was their highest paid safety.
02:32He ranked, I should say, 44th in the NFL.
02:36So by investment, by the draft pick investment, it is a sizable investment.
02:42It's the D.J. Moore trade for the defense.
02:45Is it not exactly the same compensation?
02:47It's almost exactly the same deal.
02:49Where's Moore rank among wide receivers?
02:51Is he 14th?
02:52Pretty close to right around that ballpark in terms of how much he is paid.
02:56So, yeah, Amani Hooker.
02:59And to get a deal to help the defense add a position of need
03:03to spend the highest pick they have spent in a trade deadline
03:07since Brandon Bean has been the general manager?
03:11No.
03:11No first-round pick.
03:12No, oh, we did the Jordan Davis trade like Jacksonville.
03:15The, oh, oh, oh, the Jacksonville's going all in.
03:18But they got a player that's going to help them now
03:21and is 28 years old and under contract for three years.
03:24I like that part a lot, that three years, like, he's playing football on this team
03:31probably until Josh Allen is like 34 years old.
03:33Yeah.
03:34So, and he's a good player.
03:36You'll see.
03:37Some safeties play long into their careers.
03:39Maybe he even goes beyond that.
03:40But maybe he's the next Jordan Poirier.
03:42Maybe he's the next Jordan Poirier.
03:44Right, he's just here for a while.
03:45Play until he's 34.
03:46The comp, of course, for him was Micah Hyde.
03:47I mean, maybe, whatever.
03:48He could be one of those hybrid guys.
03:50And, you know, you've got Bean up there saying he reminds him of Micah Hyde,
03:54which I saw other people suggesting as well.
03:56He went to Iowa.
03:58So, what do we do now?
04:00Nothing to complain about.
04:01Right?
04:02We'd be happy that they closed.
04:04One of these teams closed the deal.
04:06They weren't just in on somebody.
04:08They weren't just closing in.
04:10Bean did say in his press conference yesterday, he thought yesterday,
04:13around lunchtime, he did not think a deal was going to get done yesterday.
04:16But they got there.
04:17There have been reports that they were pushing on Buda Baker,
04:21but that he wasn't really available.
04:23So, there is your in on it.
04:26I was going to say, they were in on while also making a deal.
04:29That's the next stage of in on.
04:31Right, and having another idea ready to go and, you know,
04:35have it on the table so that if you've got to pull the trigger,
04:37you have something else there.
04:39And that's if, by the way, that's even true about Baker.
04:41I know there was a report, Howard Balzer, who reports for the Cardinals beat
04:47reporter, Lindy's Magazine, Cardinals Wire.
04:50He reported yesterday that the Bills and the Cardinals weren't serious
04:54talking about Baker, that the Bills wanted Hooker all along.
04:59But maybe it was their plan A.
05:01Fit-wise, it always kind of sounded like the plan A.
05:04Wasn't there a little bit out there of, Buda Baker's a bigger name,
05:08he's been an all-pro.
05:08He's almost more of a playmaker, but not the better fit.
05:13Yeah, Ball Hawk, and not that, I mean, Ball Hawk,
05:16I mean, not that Hooker can't be.
05:17He leads the NFL in interceptions at the moment.
05:20But Baker was box guy that can move around, and maybe it was,
05:26I saw a lot of, he's excellent, and you do that if you can,
05:30but him and Bishop would kind of have to figure out how to play together.
05:34And Hooker, it's more, this guy is like the perfect marriage with Bishop back there.
05:40Center fielder, he can actually do everything in that department,
05:44but he can let Bishop kind of roam in the box.
05:47And I just think fit-wise, it sounds good.
05:50I mean, it's kind of incredible, maybe?
05:54I don't know.
05:54I don't know.
05:55Is it incredible that he's never been named to a Pro Bowl?
05:57You go to his Pro Football reference page, it's the difference between Baker and Hooker.
06:01Baker, you go to his page, decorated.
06:04Like, eight Pro Bowls, two-time first-team All-Pro, two-time second-team All-Pro,
06:09and you go to Amani Hooker's Pro Football reference page,
06:12and it's just blanks next to the seasons.
06:15Nothing.
06:15But could that just be he's played in Tennessee?
06:18Remember Stephon Gilmore here?
06:20I do.
06:21He's not on TV, he's not getting no, and then he's like a defensive player of the year.
06:24Right, Gilmore here in five years made one Pro Bowl, like, that was it.
06:29Like, was not, I don't remember being talked about as, like, the best corner in football.
06:33And then he left, and like, oh, no, he's on Sunday Night Football every week,
06:37and guess what, he's a first-team All-Pro.
06:39Like, maybe that happens here.
06:40Maybe Hooker gets on TV more often, and he becomes, like, a household name
06:44as one of the best safeties in football.
06:46You got three picks of Joe Burrow, that'll help.
06:48That'll help.
06:49Brandon Bean, yesterday in his press conference, one of the things he,
06:51I think he was kind of suggesting or joking about was,
06:54the three interceptions might have made it tougher.
06:57Like, uh-oh, all of a sudden this guy leads the league in interceptions at safety.
07:00Like, the price went up.
07:02And the price was basically the Jacksonville price.
07:05I mean, off of that, the fifth-round pick goes the other way.
07:08But that Jesse Bates trade kind of probably set the market for what,
07:12like, listen, I'm going to need it too.
07:14And then if you're Tennessee, my guess is the fifth-round pick,
07:19and whether that was going to be a fourth or a sixth
07:21or how the slide was going to happen,
07:23or maybe the Bills just offered a straight-up third,
07:26and Tennessee comes back and says,
07:27how about a second and we'll send a fifth back your way?
07:30Yep.
07:30Because that makes a ton of sense.
07:32So they get it across the line, they get it done,
07:36and congratulations to the GM for doing the deal.
07:39You know, he went out to suggest or to talk about how a lot of things
07:43have to come together.
07:44And, you know, I guess pat yourself on the back,
07:48Bills Mafia and the entire NFL machine.
07:51This was not out of left field.
07:53This was one of the three guys we talked about.
07:55There are really two guys we talked about the most.
07:58That's Baker and Amani Hooker, and maybe Jesse Bates, I guess.
08:02Cam Bynum.
08:03Safety was always the position we were talking about the most.
08:07Linebacker was in there.
08:08Everybody talks about receiver.
08:09But it was the most obvious need because their plan at safety
08:13and C.J. Garner-Johnson went out the door.
08:16So they, you know, shift gears and get a guy that can make a difference.
08:21So good.
08:22Now safety is take it off the draft board, too.
08:25I got a pair of safeties for three years.
08:27Right.
08:28Take it off the draft board.
08:29To me, that's the thing.
08:30And this is about the Bills.
08:32It's about every team.
08:34I feel like the language of all in and the language of going for it
08:38and the language of mortgaging the future is just so twistedly one-sided.
08:44You really just are able to use a time machine.
08:47Hey, instead of drafting this player with a second-round pick,
08:50a starting safety, which if they had not done this,
08:53at next year's draft we would have probably talked about,
08:55how about a starting safety with a second-round pick for Cole Bishop?
08:58Instead of that, you just say, oh, we'll just give that to Tennessee.
09:02And oh, what if he's also under contract?
09:05Great.
09:06That's what you do.
09:07More teams should be doing this.
09:09The Bills make their trade.
09:10The Chiefs make their trade.
09:12The Bengals did not make their trade.
09:14Right?
09:15They did not make their trade.
09:16So they look like fools.
09:18If you're Jacksonville, you went in.
09:20Denver didn't do anything.
09:22No.
09:23I've got a lot of teams.
09:24They added a good linebacker.
09:26Sorry, linebacker.
09:27Okay, linebacker.
09:28Right.
09:28Like a coverage linebacker, which they were missing.
09:31Yeah, did you hear the comment from the Jags GM yesterday, Gladstone,
09:36about, like, he got asked about the F them picks mentality because he comes from the Rams.
09:42And, like, his comments about, he basically said, we value picks.
09:47We just don't always use them on the three days of the draft.
09:50Like, we're basically selecting these players with those picks.
09:53Bean has said that before.
09:54Right?
09:55Whenever receiver, how many times over the past six years has Bean, in reference to investment at wide receiver,
10:03said that they used a first-round pick on Stephon Diggs?
10:07That it's almost like they drafted him in the first round.
10:09That has been said multiple times.
10:11You could apply that here.
10:12That, yeah, okay, like, oh, you lose your second-round pick.
10:15It's basically like you're drafting Imani Hooker with the second-round pick.
10:18You lose the rookie wage scale part of it.
10:21You lose the, oh, this guy could be here for ten years part of it.
10:25You lose the uncertainty.
10:26That's the thing.
10:27You're trading that for uncertainty of you draft a second-round pick and the guy just isn't that good.
10:32You know this guy is good.
10:34And there are times where it's time to make a trade like that.
10:38Trade the uncertainty for, yeah, I'll suffer the no-rookie contract and not being 22 years old
10:45because I'm getting certainty that this is a good player.
10:47Yep.
10:48And he's going to help me right now.
10:50803-0550.
10:51What do you think, everybody?
10:52How do you like it?
10:53The Chiefs get Josh Downs.
10:55It's a nice move for them.
10:57They needed that probably much more than the Bills needed Josh Downs.
11:00Not that the Bills could not use Josh Downs, but Kansas City was desperate.
11:04And they traded a fourth or fifth and a seventh, which, man, every single deadline you should do that.
11:09That's, I get a notification in my fantasy league that a, what?
11:12Sorry, it was a four.
11:13It was Downs and a seventh for a fourth and a fifth.
11:15Okay, Downs and a seventh.
11:16It's even less.
11:17Yeah.
11:18A fourth and a fifth for Josh Downs.
11:20Right.
11:20Like, in my fantasy league, I see a player that's good moves for two-fourths, and I think,
11:25you fools, these picks mean nothing.
11:27What are you doing?
11:28So that's a pretty low price.
11:30And a second for Hooker, who's a starting safety, like, yeah.
11:35Good job.
11:36I can tell you now what's, you know what's going to happen now, though, right?
11:39We're going to have a draft party, and they're going to trade down because they need to rebuild the second
11:43round.
11:43Listen, we're going to talk about that.
11:44We're going to talk about that because we're going to have a draft party.
11:49They are going to trade down to, like, 40, and they are going to get a bunch of pillar picks.
11:52This is the year that we have a draft party, and we actually come up with the concept of draft
11:57first-round insurance.
11:59Come to our draft party, and if they don't pick someone in the first round, everybody in attendance gets, like,
12:04a $25 gift card.
12:06We're going to get some sort of insurance policy.
12:09Draft pick insurance on our draft party this year.
12:12Now, speaking of the draft, they didn't spend their first round pick.
12:16They're not going to spend it on safety.
12:18No.
12:18They're not going to spend it on tackle because now Deion Dawkins is on the team for at least another
12:22year by restructuring him.
12:23Yep.
12:23No safety.
12:25No tackle.
12:27You could always take running back and, like, guard off the table, I think.
12:30Oh, take him off the table, yes.
12:31Yeah, off the table.
12:32Off the table.
12:33Center off the table.
12:34Center's off the table.
12:36Tight end.
12:36I mean, edge, you've got to get T.J. Sanders and T.J. Parker need room to grow.
12:40I don't have room for any edges.
12:42Don't you dare take edge off the table.
12:44They would absolutely take edge right off the table because you know what they're taking the first round.
12:47They could have the best edge room in the league, and you can't take edge off the table for them.
12:51They will definitely, of course, need to be taking.
12:55There's time to get to it in the future, but they'll take a wide receiver.
12:59We're back.
13:00We're so back.
13:01Thank you, Brandon Bean.
13:03Thank you for not trading that first round pick.
13:06You're going to need those linebackers to look a little bit better.
13:09You can't spend a first on a linebacker.
13:11Sure can.
13:11You get a linebacker on the third.
13:13They've done that twice.
13:14The two guys in there are third round picks.
13:16Good.
13:17They've done fine.
13:18Find one that fits better.
13:20The best linebacker they had in the last 10 years was a fifth.
13:24That's true.
13:25All right.
13:25That is true.
13:27Still got that first.
13:28They have spent a first round pick on a linebacker before, though.
13:31Yes, that's right.
13:31They have.
13:32They could.
13:33Look at there.
13:34They have not spent one.
13:35They did not address linebacker.
13:37These are their guys.
13:38Yes.
13:39I thought, Bean said, too, like, we had other deals.
13:42We were checking in on deals that never got imminent after the hooker trade was completed, and I was listening
13:51to his press conference and wondering, like, what position might that have been?
13:55I mean, I was waiting for someone to ask him, like, did you ever consider a trade on offense?
13:59Like, that never really came up.
14:01It doesn't have to be receiver specific.
14:02I mean, if you ask about offense, it would have been receiver because what else would it have been?
14:07But maybe it could have been, like, line, you know, protection, injury, whatever.
14:11But the other deals that they might have been in on and still talking about, even if it was to
14:19a smaller extent, after the hooker trade, like, was that linebacker?
14:24Or was that edge depth?
14:25Like, I really was interested in, like, what that would have ended up being.
14:30Because linebacker is going a little bit better these last two weeks, but, again, the quarterbacks, I don't know how
14:36much stock I want to put into that.
14:37I still feel like that's weakness, but shouldn't it?
14:41Like, their defense right now, they are not the worst.
14:44I do not think they're the worst defense in football.
14:46I don't think they're great.
14:47I don't think they're even probably good.
14:48But they're not the worst.
14:51How good can they get?
14:52Because even if I admit to the linebackers are a problem, that they can get exposed against the right matchup,
15:02but Russo and Walker and Oliver are so good up front, and my secondary is going to round into form
15:09because now I've got Hooker, and that'll make Bishop play better, and IGB and Benford are trending up.
15:15So, like, if my secondary and my line can perform and look good, I feel like that should be enough.
15:23I feel like I should be able to insulate.
15:25If everything around my linebackers is doing good, then I want to think that that doesn't have to crush them.
15:33So, I'm optimistic that they're – I'm really optimistic their defense is going to get to, you know, middle of
15:39the pack.
15:40They're going to play Kyle McCord in two weeks, so they're probably going to rank really high after that.
15:43Whoa, easy.
15:44I got my Q's hat on today.
15:45I noticed that.
15:46Did you wear that on purpose?
15:47No, but I do have my Q's hat on today.
15:49So, shout out Kyle McCord, who was –
15:51They are going to – there's another Fignano, right?
15:54No.
15:55Better than Fignano?
15:56He got drafted.
15:57He did?
15:58And he was good in college.
15:59How many teams has he been on since he got drafted?
16:01I mean, everybody wants them.
16:02A lot of – you know, it feels good to be wanted.
16:05Two teams?
16:06This is his third.
16:06Third team.
16:07Look at all these teams.
16:08Third team in one year.
16:09They want to slice it, Kyle McCord.
16:11Nothing wrong with that.
16:11Well, he'll start against the Bills in two weeks.
16:13All-time leading passer single season for Syracuse University.
16:16How about that?
16:16Is he?
16:17Yeah.
16:17He had a great year.
16:18Don't ask how he played in Pittsburgh.
16:20That was one really bad game.
16:21Really, really bad game.
16:23It was like a Peterman-level game for him in Pittsburgh against the Pitt Panthers.
16:26But the rest of it was great.
16:29Anyway, 803-0550.
16:31That's the phone number.
16:32Are you disappointed?
16:33My favorite topic to bring up from yesterday that we haven't touched on yet.
16:38I posted a poll right when the deal got done.
16:40Are we giving Bean back his sunglasses?
16:43Does he get sunglasses?
16:45The memes, the big baller Bean.
16:48Is this a sunglasses move?
16:51I saw that poll, and I didn't even really want to vote in it because it's so close.
16:57It's very close.
16:58It's very close.
16:59Very close for me.
17:00Was DJ Moore a sunglasses-level move?
17:02Because we said the same move.
17:04A second and a player for the – you trade a second for a player and a fifth.
17:09And he's under contract, and he can play, and he might be exactly the level that DJ Moore is.
17:15Like, you have a good player, really good player that's had success.
17:20Is it a sunglasses move?
17:21I guess I'll say yes, because we have to measure it against what gets done in the league.
17:29James Gladstone's is beyond sunglasses.
17:31His is war chest bleep them picks.
17:34Sunglasses is just kind of like, hey, I'm doing the job over here, right?
17:40I'm aggressive.
17:41He says he wants to be aggressive.
17:43Was this aggressive?
17:44Whatever.
17:44Sure.
17:44By league standards, yes.
17:47I think more teams should be doing this.
17:51If you are a contender at all, you should be spending your seconds and arguably your firsts to try to
17:57win.
17:59And the idea that it could all go south, it's one thing I think that is often a bit oversold.
18:05And he talked about it yesterday.
18:07Brandon Bean talked about it yesterday.
18:08You know, I don't want to come in here and have a season where we had to cut all these
18:11guys because of something I did.
18:12In what world does that look like it would ever happen?
18:15You never, you re-sign everybody.
18:18The idea you're going to have to cut a bunch of players in some sort of cap dump, you move
18:23more money into the future than most teams, they do not, to me, look like that has ever come close
18:29to happening.
18:29What's the biggest cap casualty they've ever had to make?
18:32The toughest decision.
18:34They dumped digs because they wanted to and took a $26 million dead cap.
18:39Who else?
18:40Is it Trey White, Matt Milano, Joey?
18:42Like, the dead cap, where's the player they've ever had to cut?
18:46Because, well, we just, it's really tough.
18:49The cap here is such that we gotta let him go.
18:52It was that day they cut Trey White, and did they not also cut a couple other, like Mitch Morse
18:57got cut?
18:58Okay.
18:58It's like one day in seven years.
19:00One day, and Mitch Morse went and played one season and retired.
19:03Right.
19:04And Trey White was not the same and probably cut because of injuries, and they kind of knew he wasn't
19:08the same.
19:08Right.
19:09And then they brought him back.
19:10I guess you're right.
19:11I guess Trey White and Mitch Morse.
19:12But that was, again, that was one day.
19:14It's also so far in their career, and you would have planned for timelines for those guys.
19:19So.
19:19Yeah.
19:20Morse was the surprise.
19:21Yeah.
19:21Maybe it's the year that they dumped a bunch of captains where they didn't re-sign Gabe, and they cut
19:25Morse.
19:26Yep.
19:26And how did they do?
19:28The exact same.
19:29They were the same team.
19:30They did fine.
19:31They did fine to great.
19:32They won the division.
19:33Yep.
19:34I, they probably, I think that should have been.
19:36Yeah, the last year was the only year they didn't.
19:38So, I think, yeah, like, that point, man.
19:41Like, the idea that they were going to have to tear down certain things next year because they would have
19:47spent, what, a first-round pick on Max Crosby?
19:51Like, you just, you make those moves.
19:53Yep.
19:55The, the sunglasses part of it.
19:58Do you want to give him back?
19:58I might lean, maybe, if you're leaning yes, I might lean no because, like, I think you gotta be the
20:05talk of the league when you make a deal like that.
20:07Like, you've, this was not, this was a good, measured trade.
20:13This was a responsible trade.
20:15This is not bleep them picks.
20:18This is not, wow, can you believe that?
20:20Like, that to me is more what I, what I would want for, because that's, that is, that's trading for
20:27digs.
20:27That is signing Von Miller to a $120 million deal.
20:32You're saying sunglasses moves are those two.
20:34Yeah, sunglasses, like, big, big swings.
20:36If you want to, again, I'm, I'm not criticizing Hooker for never making a Pro Bowl because the Pro Bowl,
20:40by the way, is, like, also not even that valuable.
20:42But guys never had an all-pro vote before, like, a good player that's been in the league for eight
20:47years, you acquire him for a late second, I'm like, yeah, that's a good, that's just a good measured trade.
20:53That's good.
20:54Yep.
20:55But, yeah, I feel like sunglasses is, like, one little step above that.
20:59Fair, fair.
21:00I mean, first-round pick as part of a trade and I'll go sunglasses.
21:03I didn't even need that yesterday.
21:05I'm not saying I wanted that.
21:06I don't always, you don't always need sunglasses moves.
21:08They're fun.
21:09We'll get some calls in, 803-0550.
21:12Another way to say it if you want to, don't want to make it about the sunglasses, John Scott, I
21:16saw of Channel 2, he tweeted about this and people kind of got mad at the idea.
21:22He referred to it as not a big swing.
21:25Like, this is a good, solid move, but he didn't want to classify it as a big swing.
21:30And the first couple of comments I read were really mad about that.
21:33They think it's a big swing.
21:35So, to me, the biggest debate about this is how big you think it is, but I don't hear many
21:41people out there that think they shouldn't have done it.
21:44If you think that, give us a ring at 803-0550.
21:47Rob in Connecticut before the break.
21:49Hey, Rob, good morning.
21:50Good morning, guys.
21:51I just, I felt the need to wake up early and listen to you, Jeremy and Joe, and what your
21:56opinion was.
21:57You know, because, of course, I mean, actually, I think today is like four years that I've been listening to
22:04you guys.
22:05This is like my anniversary.
22:06Happy anniversary to us.
22:08Yeah, there's a lot of good things.
22:09You know, I lost my eyesight in 2022, and my Beyonce turned me on to you guys.
22:15And I've been doing the thing in the morning, every morning, listening to you guys, and it's been awesome.
22:21A lot of great things have been going on with the Bills.
22:24I just wanted to say that I'm happy.
22:27I was really, like, getting tired of just listening about the trade with the people calling and not being satisfied
22:33with what Bean was or wasn't doing.
22:36But after yesterday, I have to say and agree that I'm satisfied.
22:41I wouldn't say it's a knock it out of the park home run, but I'd say it's inside the park
22:46home run.
22:47For me, it was needed, and hopefully it works out for us.
22:54I think the best comment that Bean did say yesterday that we could put our guns and knives away, and
23:00I found that pretty funny.
23:02So, let's do this.
23:04We'll see what Hooker does for us.
23:07Let's go, Bills.
23:08Thanks, Rob.
23:10You know, if we're talking about this from a standpoint of politics and PR, Bean has a real opportunity to
23:18look really, really good.
23:20Because C.J. Gardner-Johnson departs, and they have two games against bad quarterbacks and start to trend in the
23:26right direction.
23:27And then they add in Amani Hooker.
23:29If they continue to climb up the EPA rankings and get to be an average defense, he will get tons
23:36of credit for being a big part of the turnaround.
23:40The GM saw it.
23:42He saw the trend.
23:43He grabbed this player.
23:44The defense is better.
23:45And, again, the credit will be his because he builds it.
23:48But, also, the timing of it will be – I think it'll just – it'll easily fit into a storyline
23:54slash an arc of this defense and what it has become.
23:58Because it was earlier in the year really bad.
24:02And the last couple weeks we've seen signs of life.
24:05And perhaps now we really see Jim Leonard able to dip into his bag and do whatever he wants.
24:10And in the next couple weeks, could they get the one?
24:13I did have the thought of Terry Pagoula rattling off the numbers at the press conference and people not knowing
24:18what the numbers were.
24:19And they were the seed that the Bills had.
24:21Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:22Like, after this, you could have a one.
24:23A one in there.
24:24Throw a one at the end of it.
24:25Sustained success, you know?
24:26I mean, they're staring at 9-1 in the face.
24:29Right.
24:30Yeah, the Jets this week.
24:31Could Amani Hooker play?
24:33It's a good question.
24:34Coming up on the show today, we'll talk with Joe Marino of the Locked on Bills podcast at 7 o
24:38'clock.
24:38I'm eager to ask him how Hooker fits, why it's probably a better idea than Buda Baker, even though Buda
24:44Baker might be maybe a more reputable player or more accolades.
24:48A lot of people seem to think that Hooker is the better fit.
24:51At 8 o'clock, we'll talk with Peyton Krebs of the Buffalo Sabres.
24:54They've got a game tonight with Tampa, a revisitation with the Lightning, who they had so many great battles with
24:59last year.
25:00So Peyton Krebs at 8.
25:01Check in with Sal.
25:02We've also got Belknap hot and cold.
25:04The Cali counter continues.
25:05Joe Kelly's got three days left.
25:07Three days left.
25:09Jeez.
25:10So lots going on here with you on a Wednesday, right?
25:13Yeah, Wednesday.
25:14Post-trade deadline.
25:15What do you think?
25:16What did you need more of?
25:18And, you know, just do the job.
25:20Just scratch the edge for you.
25:21Jeremy and Joe on WGR.
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