00:00It's a football Friday with a bye week. What will you do with all your free time?
00:05The games to watch. Last night's game was a good one. Maybe the best one of the weekend in terms
00:09of
00:12outcomes for the Bills and what you'd want because the Patriots lost and the Bills will play the
00:17Bears if they beat the Bears. That's a chance to gain a game on them. There's a lot made about,
00:21of course, the division and your head-to-heads, which makes sense, but it's quite regular or normal
00:30that two teams in the same division, you could lose to a team twice and you just beat other teams
00:35and
00:36you don't even go to a tiebreaker. You're going to beat them. It's one of the strange things about
00:39the NFL where the number one spot for winning the division is not division record. It's just record.
00:47Patriots lost to the Bears. If the Bills beat the Bears, that's a win for the Bills.
00:518-0-3-0-5-50, the phone number. Anyway, we had some Sabre stuff early, some Bills stuff here
00:57as well.
00:58At the bye week for the Bills, Joe off today, Jeremy White, Joe Kelly, Owen Parker. I almost made
01:04Joe Parker here. But anyway, these guys are here. On the Bills in the bye week, how much should we
01:13be
01:14thinking about a trade? The Josh Palmer trade idea, maybe this was created by Chris Trapasso,
01:18Buddy Chris Trapasso, who obviously would make a good point to bring this up, that you could trade
01:23him out. And if you do that, you're doing it to save cap space. If the Bills were to trade
01:27Josh Palmer,
01:28they could save $6 million in cap space for a guy that has a couple touchdowns, has had a couple
01:35opportunities, but not a lot. We know the Josh Palmer story here. And if they were to lose him to
01:41a
01:41trade to create space, it would only make sense if they were going to do it in the interest of
01:48getting
01:48someone else. I would think yes at receiver or linebacker, safety, whatever. I think that by the
01:57time we get to the trade deadline, which is in a couple of weeks, the Bills will make some sort
02:02of move
02:03for a starting caliber player. What teams are selling off that maybe it's a surprise to see
02:10them selling? The Eagles are one, right? Linebacker Zach Bond could be a name for this.
02:15The safeties, we've run through them before. Buda Baker in Arizona, we talked about him last year.
02:20Derwin James in LA. There are other linebacker ideas. Jesse Bates, another safety out of Atlanta.
02:27And maybe the next two to three weeks, you got games this week. You got the Baltimore week when the
02:31Bills play the Ravens and then Monday Night Football, Bills Vikings. So three weeks still
02:36for teams to find out if they're in it or not, right? Are they, are you in the race for
02:41the
02:41playoffs? Are you going to probably miss? You can identify you're probably going to miss
02:44and make some changes. And it's worth pointing out that right now in the AFC, a four and two team
02:53would miss the playoffs. So if you're a team that's just hanging around in the AFC, it's maybe
03:00harder than ever to get back into it. So teams that could sell, here's Houston at two and four,
03:05a four and two team would miss the playoffs right now in the, or before New England lost last night.
03:10So there's, um, there's a lot of competition for those top spots. And there, there are,
03:15if there are 14 playoff spots, there really might be 13 good teams sneaking in and getting in.
03:22Maybe the divisions get that. Maybe the NFC East gets that. You want to toss the NFC South in there
03:28too. I guess you could, the Browns being foreign to is a surprising. Are they going to make it?
03:33They think they can, they can get in Pittsburgh's foreign to think they can get in in the next two
03:38to three weeks. We might see some teams have a better idea of who they are and who's selling,
03:43but for trade candidates for the bills, back to the Palmer idea. I, I just have so much trouble
03:49thinking about them changing their receiver room in a substantive way because the offense is good
03:57and Allen is doing well. The line is good to great. The run game is good. They have DJ Moore
04:03as the top dog. They were able to get through two weeks of sitting him out as much as he
04:09might not
04:09have liked that. He sat for two weeks and they won two games and now he can come back against
04:14Baltimore
04:14and go for the stretch run. If however, he were to re-aggravate or get injured before the deadline,
04:21I think you'd have to have to dip into that market, but to seek it out otherwise, where you
04:26would move a Palmer, you'd be paying someone to take him paying a team. Here's a fourth round pick
04:34for Palmer and a seventh round pick or something like that. You would move up. You're basically spending
04:40money to, to buy a draft pick if you're that team and you're taking Josh Palmer as part of the
04:45deal.
04:45But for Palmer, I kind of feel the same way that I did about Keon Coleman last year, which is
04:52unless you actually have a different idea, just a dump for the sake of a dump, because you haven't
04:58been happy with the production, it doesn't make a lot of sense. It's a super expensive position.
05:03If you want to upgrade from him, it's doable. It just seems like a lot of, a lot of work
05:09that I
05:09just, I don't think the bills would do. So could they save 6 million? Yeah, right. It could, but
05:15you're paying a team to do it. And then on top of that, paying more. So hypothetically, you've
05:21identified this receiver, unless it's a guy off the street or if it's Tyrell Shavers, or if it's,
05:27you know, somebody else like that, and you're using that six on a linebacker or a safety,
05:31you are, you're probably weakening your group, even though Palmer has, you know, been disappointing
05:37for the most part. But I, I, I see that, that suggestion. I don't know that it's a full
05:43on trade rumor. I haven't seen an insider connect a team to having interest. And I, again, if
05:48you're a team that has interest, you're probably a bad team that is short on draft capital trying
05:53to move up. So anyway, 803-0550 to join us here on WGR on the bills.
06:01on the bye week, they go to the bye week, looking for answers defensively to see if
06:06they can find their way to, I guess, something more sustainable. They stopped the run. They
06:15don't stop the pass, but everybody we talked to, we talked to Carl Jones yesterday, our weekly
06:20visits with Joe Marino, everybody we talked to is just on the idea that it doesn't have
06:27to be this bad. They've got communication issues. And when they're rolling back in
06:32their zones, they are just missing things. So an extended week here where you have a bye
06:38week, time on task, all that. To me, it seems entirely reasonable that they could get back
06:46to like a baseline of slightly below average. And if you have a defense that just has a little
06:53bit of a nasty edge to it from a havoc standpoint, where they can get the quarterback occasionally,
06:58they can force bad throws occasionally, but are by yards and EPA, just a middle of the
07:05road defense. Like that'll work. That'll often work. And I think the bills can get there.
07:10I think they can maybe one player added to the defense, maybe a linebacker added to the defense,
07:15maybe a safety in place of CJ Gardner Johnson and time on task. Those two things get you to average
07:22and try to win the Superbowl at the bye week. How different do you feel about them? I am about
07:31the
07:31same. And it's in large part because the defense, I mean, it really would have had a difficult time
07:39convincing me of anything concrete anytime before Thanksgiving. Five, six games here or there.
07:47They've played a tough slate of offenses. No doubt about that. Really good offenses for the most part.
07:53So, you know, if they beat up on the jets and they beat up on the dolphins and it starts
07:56to look
07:57better, that'll, that'll sound right to me. But right now the team is about what I thought it would be.
08:04Not exactly how I thought it would be. The offense is probably a little better than I thought it
08:08would be. And the defense is probably a lot worse than I thought it would be, but you know, five
08:13and one doing the job and room for improvement. But Joe Brady and Jim Leonard sorting this out and
08:20figuring out what to do on that side of the ball. It's a, it's going to take time and it
08:25might take
08:26a little more help from the roster. 803-0550 is just the way to get in touch with us. We'll
08:34talk
08:34with Sal Capaccio at 730. I've got bi-week awards to get to. We've also got to talk about what
08:39the
08:39Knicks did because their owner is notorious for being different, odd, difficult, out of touch. And
08:48what he did with his organization in the last couple of days is pretty wild. A wild story to tell
08:53you
08:53about a spam phishing email and championship rings. So we'll get to that. 803-0550 on WGR.
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