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Rico Beard, Mike Valenti, and the crew are back for another edition of "Can We Say That?" on The Valenti Show with Rico! The guys dive into Jim Harbaugh’s struggles and whether he makes it through the season, if the Chargers should completely blow it up and trade Justin Herbert, and who the Vikings should target at quarterback.
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00:09All right, we'll get to take a little break from the local heaviness
00:13and get to can we say that.
00:25Gentlemen, can we say that Jim Harbaugh will not make it to the end of the year?
00:32Sitting at 0-7 right now.
00:34No, I don't think the Spanos would fire him mid-year.
00:38It's a disaster.
00:39There's really no point.
00:41There's no one on the staff to take the job or take a look at it.
00:45I got an O.C.
00:46I'll just say this.
00:48One of the worst takes of my life was thinking the Chargers could make a Super Bowl run.
00:53I still think if we get away from just that ridiculousness,
00:57it is one of the most stunning outright collapses of a team that has two 11 win seasons
01:05recent, last year.
01:06To go from that to halfway through the year, Rico, you are winless.
01:12Your franchise QB looks shattered and a guy who's been a great NFL head coach
01:18and look to be on that path of getting you there.
01:22Rico, they are a legitimate contender to go winless.
01:27It's stunning.
01:28They are.
01:29First of all, I can't say anything to you.
01:31I've lost two weeks in a row to you.
01:33You can say everything you want.
01:34Talk about bad takes.
01:36Second, and we were talking pre-show, they're also saying we're not selling off any pieces
01:41to this team.
01:42We're not even thinking about it.
01:43It's like, huh?
01:44Yeah.
01:44You're 0-7.
01:46You should be trying to do whatever you can to recuperate this.
01:50Justin, I will say this to you, and then I'll have the guys take it to six.
01:55If I'm L.A., I just think I have to start all over.
01:58Justin Herbert looks completely broken, needs a change of scenery,
02:03and I do think you could get a franchise-altering trade package for him
02:07that someone will, quote, fix him.
02:09But yeah, Paul, go ahead.
02:11Well, no, it's just, I don't, to your point, Rico,
02:14I don't know with their 0-7 why they aren't trying to trade off some assets.
02:16Like, get what you can.
02:18This might be hard to do a Justin Herbert trade midseason,
02:20but it's definitely something you should look into in the offseason,
02:23especially if they're going to be drafting in the top five,
02:25which they probably are going to be.
02:26But I was kind of shocked.
02:28Like, I get Mike McDaniels just there,
02:29but I'm kind of shocked they didn't make a move with the bye week
02:32to move on from him at least and go back to maybe Harbaugh style of doing things
02:35because it doesn't seem like they're clashing well,
02:37even though they played nicey-nicey during the offseason.
02:40They're kind of weird guys, and it kind of doesn't seem to be working.
02:45No, it's not.
02:46And real quick, I mean, so if he moves, I mean, we're talking,
02:50we laughed and said, like, Lamar Jackson will go to the Jets.
02:53Where's Harbaugh going to go?
02:56Vikings, Jets.
02:57Vikings.
02:58You know what?
02:59Speaking of which, speaking of which, I'm glad you said that.
03:02Can we say that the Vikings need to trade for a quarterback
03:06more than a running back right now?
03:08Because what I saw, look, and I also,
03:11I think Jordan Mason's a good football player.
03:14Their offensive line stinks.
03:16They can't crush a grape in a food fight.
03:18Yeah, the problem is who you're trading for.
03:20I don't know that the Raiders are ready to totally pack it in.
03:23They did win yesterday.
03:25You're going to go to Mendoza, but, like, do you really want to get,
03:29what are you going to get for Kirk Cousins, a sixth-round pick?
03:31Like, what do you get?
03:32Let me offer you something that could be very cheap for the Vikings.
03:38Because you can't do any worse than what you have right now.
03:40So let me give you that caveat, okay?
03:43Before you laugh at me, nothing could be worse than what I saw yesterday
03:47at Ford Field, and it would probably cost you a seventh-round pick,
03:51and maybe not even this year, next year.
03:53Anthony Richardson.
04:00No.
04:02I'm going to co-sign.
04:03No.
04:04Okay.
04:05It actually can get worse.
04:06Yeah, no.
04:07Sorry.
04:08Can I offer you another one, Rico, for a sixth- or seventh-round pick?
04:12He's cheap because another team is paying most of his contract.
04:15He might not physically be able to play more than five snaps before he dies,
04:19but that's to a tongue-of-eye-low it to the Vikings.
04:22At least he could accurately throw passes to the receivers they have.
04:26He might not be very far down the field,
04:28but at least he could accurately get it there.
04:30I mean, you know what?
04:32You only need him for about – I just need him for five wins.
04:35Here, I'll just say it.
04:37Play Carson Wentz.
04:38There.
04:39Make fun of me.
04:40Just play Carson Wentz.
04:42You can't continue to do this.
04:43Kyler Murray, I mean, he walked himself into a three-man rush sack.
04:47He cannot process.
04:49He has nothing.
04:51You saw that, too.
04:51Like, did you just walk right into a sack?
04:53It's because he doesn't know what he's looking at,
04:56and then there's nothing on the football anymore.
04:59It's almost as if his shoulder is just shot.
05:01He has nothing on the ball.
05:06They cannot play him anymore.
05:07He's just – it's over.
05:12Oh, you want to say – I thought Paul was about to say something.
05:14Can we say that Oklahoma State's semester maker will be the first quarterback
05:19selected in the draft?
05:22It's possible, but I want to hearken – I have to keep our streak alive,
05:27albeit today's a somber day.
05:29Paul said something earlier, and I think it's very, very intelligent.
05:34Oh, he might be the number one pick, but I don't think it's because he's some
05:37super number one overall type talent.
05:40It's because the rest of his QB class has faltered.
05:43Look, here's my problem with Mestonmaker, and you could say, oh, my God,
05:47you're holding this against him.
05:48You're unfair.
05:49There's no pedigree.
05:50The no-star recruit.
05:52He comes from nowhere.
05:54And me being a truther of his from when he was at North Texas and now playing
06:00for Pistol Pete, Rico, the last time there was a no-star recruit that went
06:04number one overall, his name is Cam Ward.
06:06You've got to have a level of pedigree to me.
06:11How many stars did Mendoza have?
06:14He was four, I thought, when he went to Cal.
06:17No, my point is, buddy, be a high-rated three-star.
06:20No, these guys, you're finding these dudes from under a rock.
06:24I'd be careful about that.
06:26I like him, but as a college quarterback.
06:29Paul, you tell me.
06:30It's your team who's going to take him.
06:31You've got a quarterback already.
06:33Well, let's not get crazy, Rico.
06:36But I needed that laugh.
06:41The dry nature of that comment.
06:44No, I agree with Mike.
06:45I think Mestonmaker's biggest knock is, I don't know if necessarily is star power
06:49or star rating, but he's very inexperienced.
06:51This is his first year playing big-time college football.
06:55It didn't work out well when Mark Sanchez left early.
06:58There is a certain amount of barometer.
07:00In college, you need 30 starts or whatever they say it is, the barometer.
07:04And Mensa's probably the next guy on the list because he's been really good for Miami,
07:08and that's about it because Arch Manning has fallen off a cliff,
07:12and Dante Moore got hurt, and he's—
07:14You know who else was good for Miami?
07:16Cam Ward.
07:17Yes.
07:17You've got to be careful playing in the ACC, and you simply have superior talent
07:22than everyone.
07:23That's my one problem.
07:25I'm not knocking Mensa.
07:26We're not talking college.
07:27College, he's probably your leader for the Heisman.
07:29Well, I would say the only pushback I'd have on that is that Mensa showed more accuracy
07:34so far in college than Ward has.
07:36Yes, 100%.
07:37I wouldn't take any quarterback number one overall.
07:39I'd take Jeremiah Smith.
07:40I think he's a generational prospect.
07:42But if I needed one, then you've got to find a way to trade out of that.
07:47I just don't think there's a guy worthy of the number one pick that I've seen in college this year.
07:51Can we say that if Michigan—
07:56Now, this is going to the assumption that they beat Michigan State this week,
07:59then they'll finish up the year 6-6.
08:02This will be the last win they'll have this season.
08:04Yeah, they're terrible.
08:05That game against—
08:06At Oregon, UCLA at home, at Ohio State.
08:10Yeah, they're terrible.
08:12They are objectively terrible.
08:13That performance against Rutgers was terrible.
08:16And I was watching people in Radio Shack helmets running wide open.
08:22I'm like, what is this?
08:25Rico, they're just bad.
08:28You know the logo.
08:29I know that's an old head remark.
08:31They're bad.
08:33Yeah, Rico, sure.
08:34And if they go 6-6, it really means 5-7.
08:37You lost to Western.
08:38We have to stop living under this illusion.
08:41You lost.
08:42That is true.
08:43I'm just going by what the number says.
08:45David?
08:46Yes, this would be the last win they get if they get it.
08:49If they get it.
08:51But I'll just tell you this.
08:53It is interesting and fun a little bit seeing that banner hang up at Western Michigan University.
08:58They have a banner saying we beat Michigan with the score.
09:01That is kind of strange to see.
09:03Do you see the interception out of that game against Bowling Green?
09:06I did.
09:07That was an incredible play by that kid.
09:09Yes, it was.
09:10It was like Charles Woodson 1997 at Michigan State.
09:13Couldn't believe it.
09:14Oh, yes.
09:14The Todd Schultz one.
09:16That kid made an incredible play on the football.
09:19Yeah, I was working camera on the field and I said, where'd the ball go?
09:22It went to the greatest defensive back I've ever seen in college in Charles Woodson.
09:27I'm like, is this Penn and Teller out here?
09:29No.
09:30Okay.
09:30Guys, this is actually a true story.
09:32It is kind of somewhat breaking.
09:35Yeah.
09:36Brandon Ayuk is hiring a new agent.
09:39Can we say that we'll see him playing on the field this season?
09:43No, I think he needs an offseason.
09:45He needs to get in shape.
09:46He's going to need to do interviews.
09:48He's going to need full PR support.
09:51He's going to need counseling because there's clearly something going on.
09:54No, I think he at best next season.
09:59Because I figured, okay, maybe he's had that come to Jesus moment.
10:02A little too late.
10:03Let me hire somebody to go ahead.
10:05You know what, guys?
10:06I was on that ooey for a while, but now I'm off.
10:09We're going to see you next year.
10:10He might need an exorcist.
10:12You know, just something to get himself right.
10:13Because, like, I just don't see him in the NFL.
10:15Why would anyone put up with what he was doing on social media and all this stuff that 49ers have
10:20had to put up with?
10:21He's one of those receivers.
10:22They have talent, but mentally, how long will they be there?
10:27I'm not bringing that in my locker room in the middle of a year.
10:32I'm going to say no.
10:33We will not see him this year.
10:35He did hire the right agent, though, to get him a job eventually, Drew Rosenhaus.
10:39So eventually we will see him, just not in 2026.
10:42Well, hopefully Drew has a different approach than what he did for T.O. years ago.
10:46No driveway workout sessions.
10:49I remember that.
10:50Him doing sit-ups.
10:52Can we say that the Broncos are the best team in the AFC West after their defeat of Kansas City?
10:59Oh, you're going to force me to do the thing where I say the team that lost is still better
11:03than the team that won?
11:05That's why we're here.
11:06Cookies always hated when I did that on the pod.
11:08But, no, the Chiefs are better.
11:09The Chiefs blew that game.
11:11I don't think Denver won it.
11:12They blew it.
11:13I don't know what ooh-wee Andy Reid was on with the third and fourth down calls.
11:18That Kenneth Walker run on third down was the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
11:21Right.
11:22It was like, okay, you're acting like there's 30 seconds left in the game.
11:25But it also was nice.
11:27Both lines kind of stood up and were like, are we really doing this?
11:31And then K-9 basically ran into a brick wall.
11:33Of all the things you could dial up there, and then fourth down, why do I have Mahomes in the
11:39shotgun
11:39when you've taken away the true threat of a play-action pass, a run?
11:43I didn't like it.
11:45Did you like Brittany Mahomes?
11:47I know you love it when wives hit social media.
11:50I don't know what she did.
11:51She got upset and blamed the referees, saying they just don't like the Chiefs.
11:56Okay.
11:57Of all teams.
11:58Okay.
11:59You know what?
12:00Let's just put it like this, David.
12:01That one did not end well for her.
12:04You may want to go ahead and delete that one.
12:05This is another plague on society.
12:08The, quote, wags of the league.
12:11Wives and girlfriends.
12:12You know what we should give them?
12:13Pretend phones like you hand a kid.
12:16It doesn't actually call anyone, and whatever you type in it isn't actually getting broadcast
12:22to the interwebs.
12:23The Brady Hoke headset?
12:24We should get the WAGs, play school phones, and headsets.
12:27The Brady Hoke headset.
12:28Okay.
12:29It's like, what was the one a few weeks ago from the Bengals about how hard it is to be
12:33a girlfriend of a player in the travel and the makeup?
12:37Honey, there are people out here, they can't afford to buy groceries.
12:40Okay.
12:41What?
12:42Play school phone.
12:44Type your thoughts into here.
12:45I promise it'll post.
12:48I can't do it.
12:49Oh, man.
12:50All right.
12:51That's it, David.
12:52All right.
12:52That's, can we say, 97-1.
12:54That's it, everyone.
12:54That's it, everyone.
12:54That's it, everyone.
12:55That's it, everyone.
12:55That's it, everyone.
12:55That's it, everyone.