00:00First of all, I want to remind everybody of the time 100 years ago, the rise of fascism and nazism
00:10in Europe.
00:11And one of the enablers in this were the anonymous leaflets and anonymous posters.
00:18And what I want to highlight here is exactly the responsibility for what you're saying.
00:23Many people, when they open today, their social media feed, it's full of AI-generated misinformation.
00:33But the misinformation is not about me or someone as a person in their real name, their identity, standing behind
00:42what they say, as much as it might be even a lie.
00:45But it's the anonymous accounts, anonymous bot farms that are trying to undermine the trust of people in their representatives,
00:54whatever the political side there is.
00:57And I think this is important to realize.
00:58This is not about what you can say.
01:02This is about basically anonymous accounts, fake accounts and fake bot farms and also the social media platforms that are
01:13allowing this to happen, that are enabling this.
01:16And they need to be held accountable because we have a legislation and we need to enforce it.
01:23And the social media platforms need to act or face consequences.
01:28And I think this is the problem.
01:29It's about basically, if you can imagine, someone putting posters that are lying around you, all around the neighborhood, without
01:41any signature, without identification, who said it, would dealing with this be censorship?
01:48Because if someone is critiquing you, if someone is standing, I don't agree with you, and standing behind what they
01:54say, that's the democratic discussion.
01:58But spreading anonymously lies, it's not that manipulation that we need to stop.
02:05Because people should be able to stand up for their rights and stand up for the defense of their freedom.
02:13When we talk about artificial intelligence and jobs, social norms, where should we draw the line?
02:24What do you think the consequences might be?
02:26And what can national parliaments do to inject some form of social and democratic process in the area that we
02:37want?
02:38Well, this is a very broad area.
02:42And to just focus on one thing, AI generally, you know, it can be a good servant, but it definitely
02:50would be a very bad master.
02:52And AI already today is putting jobs in danger, eliminating some of the jobs, and not necessarily for the benefit.
03:04But starting young lawyers are being replaced by AI, architects, other white-collar jobs.
03:12Because lots of the, so to say, easy entry-level work can be done by AI.
03:17But how can you become a senior and experienced when you don't have the chance to grow, to practice?
03:26And also, this represents a big risk for the companies, because they get dependent on the AI agents.
03:35They lose the know-how.
03:37Equally, the challenge is that, you know, if we offload our own cognitive skills as humans onto the AI, we
03:47become simply dumber.
03:49Equally, just brain is a muscle.
03:51You have to train it.
03:52And if you don't, if you let the AI thing instead of you, well, you're not going to be so
04:00critical.
04:01You're not going to be able to analyze.
04:02What can we do as legislators?
04:06It's not an easy job.
04:07This is something which has its own speed.
04:10And it's almost outside of what we can do.
04:13We have the AI Act, which puts boundaries and which puts certain guardrails on the use of AI in Europe.
04:23I think we have to do our best to make sure that it's a human-centered AI, and human is,
04:29at the end, the decisive agent.
04:32But also, we really need to work more with also the National Parliament in making sure that the legislation in
04:40terms of the labor force and the working conditions vis-a-vis AI protects the dignity, protects the people, and
04:51gives them good quality jobs.
04:53One final question on this conference and, you know, meeting colleagues from all over Europe.
05:02This is a broader forum.
05:04It's the Council of Europe, which is an institution that not many people talk about in our national speech.
05:12Do you think that there is a way in which parliaments can cooperate and can find common ground at the
05:19European level, at the broader European level, not just the European Union?
05:22And have you found some particular feedback or ideas, suggestions from your colleagues that you're going to bring back to
05:33Strasbourg and Brussels?
05:35Well, for me, the exchange between the parliaments, not only within the European Union, but also broadly within the Council
05:41of Europe, is a very important element, and we need to work more together.
05:47Within EU, it is, I believe, the important job of holding the executive accountable.
05:56Both, you know, Italian parliament, as well as the European parliament, we are directly elected by the citizens.
06:03And the Italian parliament holds the government accountable.
06:07We hold the commission accountable.
06:08And I think in both cases, when we work as a parliament together more, we can be better in pushing
06:17what the people elected us for.
06:19We can be better in making sure that the government, as well as the European commission, do the job better
06:25for the people.
06:26And talking with the partners outside of the European Union, within the Council of Europe, well, it's like talking with
06:33neighbours.
06:34It's discussing the common challenges that we have, addressing, for example, with accession countries, the issues that they face.
06:43But also, and I had a bilateral meeting with the speaker of the House from the UK this week, now
06:53in Rome, the Canadian speaker is here.
06:57These are, in my case, very close allies.
06:59And I think working together with them, in this world, where we see the pressure and the threats that we
07:08are getting, not only from East, from Russia, but also from President Trump.
07:13I think it's more important than ever that we work closely together with our friends to have a strong Europe,
07:22which can be a true power, providing security, well-being for the people in this village.
07:29I think it's a great tricky world.
