00:00The Browns play the Ravens on Sunday.
00:03What a transition.
00:03What a way to get out of that one.
00:04What a transition, huh?
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00:20All right.
00:21Browns play a game on Sunday.
00:22Lamar has not practiced this week.
00:24Don't give a damn.
00:25This is a man who at once went to the locker room,
00:28came back out and beat us until he doesn't run out there.
00:34I'm assuming he's playing on Sunday.
00:37Yeah.
00:37Are you the same way?
00:38Yeah.
00:38If anybody has paid attention to the oddity that is the Lamar Jackson situation
00:46with detailing his injuries over the years, him not practicing.
00:50Most guys.
00:51I don't think it matters.
00:52Quarterbacks that don't practice on Thursdays, they just don't play.
00:56He just is not in the facility for a week,
00:59and then he'll just show up on game day and be like,
01:01yeah, I'm in the game.
01:01So let me throw it at you here.
01:03Is he even traveling with the team?
01:04Is Sunday.
01:05Well, even if he doesn't travel with the team,
01:07I assume he'll find a way here, and I assume he'll play.
01:11I'm telling you, until he doesn't play,
01:13or until he's on that list of inactives,
01:15like I'm not going to sit there and believe that stuff.
01:18I'm going to assume he's going to play.
01:19He'll get in that George Jetson new Elon Musk vehicle
01:22that will just be able to take off.
01:24945 is coming in hot.
01:27945 is coming in hot.
01:30Listen, so I rode in the rocket car.
01:33I've ridden in the rocket car with little John.
01:36What?
01:37It's a good time.
01:38I know.
01:38It is.
01:39Windy.
01:40It was windier than hell, but it was a good time.
01:42So let me get to this.
01:44If Tyler Huntley does end up playing,
01:47what are you laughing about?
01:48If Tyler Huntley does end up playing,
01:50is Sunday a must win?
01:52Oh, I love this.
01:54Yeah, it does feel like that.
01:55Really?
01:56It does feel like that because.
01:57Oh, that's interesting.
01:58Especially for Deshaun Watson, right?
01:59Even if it's not all his fault.
02:02Like, I didn't think the Jets game,
02:03I thought there were much bigger problems
02:05than Deshaun Watson in that Jets game.
02:07And even if, you know, it's not all him,
02:11but they lose just because they don't have enough.
02:14They've got these defensive line issues.
02:17I do think that that's going to be problematic
02:19because most fans have had to,
02:24even if they don't love Deshaun Watson,
02:27when you win three games in a row,
02:29you hold your nose and you accept it
02:32because you're a Browns fan.
02:33But if you lose two in a row
02:35and that Jets game was winnable,
02:38now it very easily goes the other way.
02:41Because I saw it.
02:41I saw it even with that game.
02:42He had won three in a row.
02:43He had engineered three fourth quarter victories.
02:47He had another one pending.
02:49He had taken the lead in the fourth quarter
02:51and made some great plays.
02:52Some vintage.
02:53Deshaun Watson plays in that fourth quarter
02:56to put them on top.
02:57And immediately after the game,
02:59Watson was a total disaster.
03:01You could see, every sack was on him.
03:03Like, people aren't going to be fair.
03:04I didn't say that.
03:05No, you didn't.
03:05Okay.
03:06But I saw it.
03:07You said I was fair.
03:07I saw plenty of it from some bigger accounts
03:10with a lot of followers
03:11and I heard it on the post-game shows.
03:13Like, so he's going to get no grace
03:16because, frankly, he's earned that
03:19over the course of his time
03:20as a Cleveland Browns
03:22since making all that money
03:23and just not being available
03:24and not playing well when he's available.
03:26Yeah, there's still very little wiggle room.
03:27Yeah, so just losing games,
03:29it doesn't really matter how he plays.
03:31I'm just getting a real bad feeling about it.
03:32Like, the conversation,
03:35the insistence on the shotgun conversation.
03:39And, again, I hear Todd Munkin's answers about it.
03:42I hear his answer about it even
03:43because he's like,
03:44oh, no, I'll play basically anything.
03:45And then he kind of, like,
03:46talks about comfortability.
03:48And I'm thinking, yeah.
03:51And when Mary Kaye said to me yesterday
03:53or said to us yesterday,
03:54well, they did a lot of under center
03:56at the beginning of the season.
03:57Yeah, they played the Jaguars
03:58and embarrassed themselves
03:59at the beginning of the season.
04:00And he embarrassed himself
04:01and he looked like an unplayable quarterback
04:02at any level, let alone the NFL.
04:04And so they're in shotgun now.
04:06And one of the other big questions
04:08about the shotgun is,
04:09why are you taking such a deep drop,
04:10things like that?
04:11All right, I still think
04:13he is in protectionist mode for himself,
04:17which I don't think he's playing scared,
04:18but I do think that they're trying to protect him.
04:21So when you become insistent on shotgun,
04:23you can ask Lance Reisland,
04:25it does take away parts of your offense,
04:27especially if I got, no offense,
04:29Audrick Estime, who I know a lot about,
04:31and a lot of other people do,
04:32and that's only because I saw him play
04:34at Notre Dame.
04:35But you also have Jaleel McLaughlin.
04:37You have,
04:39you have,
04:39no, you don't have Rocket Sanders, right?
04:41So now you don't have,
04:42you don't have any of those.
04:43So now I got Quinshot and Junkins in a boot.
04:45Maybe Dylan Sampson.
04:48Okay.
04:49The window opened back up.
04:49Okay.
04:50So I got the window open,
04:52but I don't got the call clear to play now.
04:54Like my running game is anemic.
04:56This is bad.
04:56And I'm supposed to be able to play both sides.
04:59Like,
04:59I just think that there's a lot of things
05:01clicking into place that we,
05:05hopefully the guardians keep on winning
05:07and we can just keep on taking Gardo's calls
05:09and stuff,
05:10sorry,
05:11guardians calls and stuff like that.
05:13Cause I think the calls on Monday,
05:15if they don't play well,
05:16and if,
05:17and if they don't play well because of the offense,
05:20yeah,
05:20there's going to be some,
05:21there's going to be some upset people
05:22and there's going to be some people calling for change
05:23at three and three.
05:24They'll think they got the green light
05:26to call for change.
05:27Now if he plays,
05:27if he plays well and they lose the game,
05:29cause this is a team,
05:31they're four and one.
05:31They're very good.
05:32They're very talented.
05:32He can play well and they could lose that game.
05:35So I can't just be results based on this
05:38just because of the win.
05:39I got it or loss.
05:40I got to see how he plays in it.
05:42But we've been talking about Deshaun Watson
05:44being the starting quarterback for the year.
05:46And it's basically been on,
05:47well,
05:47it's results based.
05:48It's three and one,
05:49but I'm not going to make a change just based on this.
05:52And they won't change.
05:52I mean,
05:52with,
05:53with Tennessee after that and Pittsburgh,
05:54a team he's already beaten.
05:55And then new Orleans.
05:56I mean,
05:57that's,
05:57that's three games after this,
05:59that he'll have that shot.
06:00And if they were to like lose all three,
06:02yeah,
06:03it's over.
06:03The Deshaun Watson stuff is over as we know it,
06:06but I still think he'll get some more time.
06:07And here's what I'm nervous about.
06:10We just saw the jets and Aaron Glenn drop a masterful game plan.
06:14The Browns cannot block them right now.
06:17They were able to do it against the Steelers and go vertical.
06:20That was not going to be available in those rainy conditions.
06:24That certainly picked up as well in the fourth quarter,
06:26unfortunately.
06:27So they are going to have trouble with that as is.
06:30So the tape is out there.
06:31The,
06:32the,
06:32the,
06:32the jets kind of paved the way,
06:34you know,
06:35Baltimore understands that.
06:37And then you add,
06:38and this is something we haven't talked a ton about.
06:41Sometimes it's more than your offensive line.
06:43You need a lot of things to come into place.
06:45Harold Fannin.
06:46The tape is very ugly on his ability to block.
06:50Oh,
06:50I'm saying the block.
06:51No Fannin Fannin is doing some Travis Kelsey stuff out there in,
06:56in pass routes and make himself available.
06:59And he's tough to bring down.
07:00He's great at all that stuff.
07:02He can not block.
07:03It's year two.
07:05This might be something he's never good at.
07:06There were a couple of plays last week where he missed his blocks so bad.
07:11And he was like,
07:12I'm just going to go on a route now.
07:13And he ended up getting dumped off.
07:14Yes.
07:15They threw it to him because he was not supposed to be there.
07:18I don't think it didn't look like it.
07:20And did you see Judkins try to chip some of the jet David Bailey?
07:25Oh my God.
07:25Listen,
07:26I,
07:26and so,
07:26so if you,
07:27if your offensive line's not doing it and they're,
07:30they're becoming a revolving door in some of these situations and then
07:34you're added protection because that's inevitably you're going to take
07:37targets away.
07:38And now you have to bring guys in Kenny nitty gritty.
07:41Football time from you.
07:42I want to hear it.
07:43Well,
07:43no,
07:43it's difficult.
07:43Okay.
07:44Because you're,
07:44you're giving me a real tough case to make a case,
07:48to make a win for the Cleveland Browns on Sunday.
07:50Cause Tyler Huntley can be an effective quarterback.
07:52I think Deshaun Watson,
07:53as we've seen this year at times can be an effective quarterback,
07:56but there's a lot of things that play into this.
07:59I mean,
07:59you're talking about the block.
08:00I didn't,
08:00but I didn't get excited about Harold Fannin based on his ability to be
08:04Mark Bavaro.
08:05They don't have tight ends.
08:06They don't,
08:06but they don't have anybody else.
08:08They don't have really,
08:09they really don't have anybody else to really help.
08:10You're right about that.
08:11The offensive line has struggled.
08:13The offensive line has struggled because you got new guys,
08:15you got young guys in there.
08:16So I'm really watching on two fifths of the offensive line to see what their
08:20future is.
08:21I've already started to make that move.
08:22My running game is,
08:23is rough to say the least.
08:25At least I have to stay in gun because what's my running game.
08:29My running game is Deshaun Watson.
08:31So how comfortable is he?
08:32And I laugh in gun.
08:34He's more comfortable in gun.
08:35And he's my running.
08:36When people say,
08:37well,
08:38I look forward to somebody tweeted this to me yesterday.
08:40That's the problem.
08:41I look forward to going to somebody else who can actually play under center.
08:44Sure.
08:45Sanders will not be playing under center with this team.
08:47That will not be happening.
08:48Cause I got to be able to protect him to give him a little bit of time.
08:50But you see,
08:51that's the problem is I'm still a limited offense.
08:54It's still handcuffs my offense.
08:56So I go,
08:57what's my running game?
08:58My running game is Deshaun Watson.
09:00Okay.
09:00I got to do it out of the gun,
09:01but the defense is going to know either way.
09:03So I'm damned.
09:04If I do damned,
09:05if I don't.
09:06And so you can beat Tennessee because Tennessee is more bun.
09:10And I wonder if there's already a quit factor there.
09:12And I don't know what the saints are right now.
09:14I think a lot of people don't know what the saints are.
09:16Their defense is not very good.
09:18And the Steelers,
09:19while you're going to Pittsburgh,
09:20you haven't beaten them in the,
09:21well,
09:21I think it's Pittsburgh,
09:22then New Orleans,
09:22but you haven't beaten Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh in the regular season since
09:25what?
09:252003 since 2003.
09:28So you got this nice reprieve afterwards,
09:32but this is going to be a sincere test here over the next month of Deshaun
09:36Watson.
09:37And then of course we got all these other rumors going around about why
09:40backup quarterbacks,
09:41the backup quarterback for your football team got an agent.
09:44Now they deny it as much as they possibly can.
09:47But I got Florio over there saying,
09:50yeah,
09:50he got an agent because he wants to go in there and demand a trade.
09:52Okay.
09:53I got Daryl in there who beat around the bush,
09:56but basically said the same thing.
09:58And you and I,
09:59why do you hire an agent in October?
10:02Timing is odd,
10:03isn't it?
10:04So I,
10:06I just keep saying,
10:08and somebody sent me a very thoughtful note,
10:10like,
10:10Hey,
10:10he,
10:11he applied for a job.
10:12He didn't get the job.
10:13Maybe he's looking for other opportunities.
10:15And I'm going,
10:15Hey buddy,
10:16you still have an opportunity here.
10:17You still have an opportunity with our team.
10:19I just explained why I just explained what exactly the guy in front of you is not out of the
10:23woods.
10:23And by the way,
10:24this week,
10:25Kyle Hamilton,
10:27Roquan Smith.
10:28Good luck.
10:30Roquan Smith's lost step though.
10:32Oh God.
10:32I said that.
10:33And that's going to,
10:34David Bailey hasn't been much of a performer so far.
10:37It's going to hurt.
10:39I got a bad feeling about that.
10:41Now you think you'll hear that in the open on Monday morning.
10:44Too many.
10:45Trevor Lawrence hasn't really impressed me.
10:46And it's.
10:49I said what I said.
10:51I'm not making a sign and standing outside of Huntington Bank field.
10:54I'll tell you that right now.
10:55Not over Roquan Smith coming up at eight 40 this morning,
11:00Zach Meisel.
11:00And that's going to be like right at eight 40,
11:02eight 41 this morning.
11:03Also,
11:04can I give the skies a little bit of credit for a guardians win yesterday?
11:08Ken Carmen,
11:08Anthony Lyman live.
