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New Delhi: In an exclusive interview with IANS, renowned musician Ustad Amjad Ali Khan and his wife, dancer Subhalakshmi Barua Khan, opened up about their personal and musical journeys. Subhalakshmi spoke about stepping into music as a vocalist after being surrounded by some of the most celebrated musicians in her family. Ustad Amjad Ali Khan also shared his reaction to Subhalakshmi finding her own musical voice, rather than simply being a part of his musical world. Both of them spoke about how music truly unites people, with Ustad Amjad noting that 'music is a precious gift of God'.Further in the conversation, Subhalakshmi revealed a side of herself that she discovered through this album which she had not encountered before. Ustad Amjad also spoke about how his relationship with the sarod has evolved with age and about the nuances of the instrument that his younger self could not have understood. The couple also spoke about the demise of veteran actor Nana Patekar and expressed their condolences for the departed soul.

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00:00Ma'am, you're making your debut by the most and after being surrounded by some of the most
00:07celebrated musicians in your family, was finding your voice also an act of finding your own
00:12identity within that legacy? Well, it is quite a challenging thing for me because when I recorded
00:21this, it was just for the family and for the posterity of the children that the record will
00:29be there. I am singing because these are the slokas that I have learned in my school days in Kalakshetra,
00:37Rukmini Devi Arundel's famous dance institution, my guru. And these were the prayers we used to do
00:43every morning and every day there was a different prayer. So it has naturally gone into me very deep
00:50and understood the meaning of it. And music and prayers, I think they go hand in hand.
00:57It's so much of feeling, so much of everything. And naturally, I take a backseat with so many
01:05musicians around me in the house. Start with Khan Sahab, then Aman and Ayaan, taken off. Now my
01:11grandchildren, Zohan and Abir, they are also started performing, playing. They are the eighth generation
01:19of an unbroken chain of Sarut playing. So I think I feel very honoured, grateful to God that this has
01:27happened. But it was not planned as it has come out to be today.
01:33And later on, I realised, not only it was song, Khan Sahab also put in his music, Aman and Ayaan
01:40did. So the culmination of the whole thing has turned out to be totally different.
01:45Different, what shall I say, the effect. And the sound, the people who have recorded, the arranger, Savan Datta, Sai
01:57Sravanam.
01:58And they have done a great job, especially Savan, who is a family friend and very attached to me. She
02:07also said that, Aunty, you have to do it. So this is how it carried on.
02:11And, well, here I am, and I only hope people like it. And I am passed in my exam.
02:21What was your reaction when she first recorded? How was that?
02:27You see, our family, we are committed, dedicated to the peace of, peace of the world. And after my marriage
02:38marriage, to Suvalakshmi Barua, at home, she was always in her prayers, chanting, reciting these shlokas. And so children, Aman
02:53and Ayaan especially,
02:54by listening to all the chants, they were very, they tried to learn also. And some of them can recite
03:04Hanuman Chalisa also.
03:08So, the chants, they are committed to the peace and harmony. And why she took so long, it was not
03:19in her control, because Aman, Ayaan, or especially Ayaan,
03:25wanted to preserve all these shlokas, all these chants, what she recites.
03:31So, one day, they took her to the studio, and did not give her time to rehearse or practice.
03:38And they immediately made her sing whatever she knew. And I am sure she has said that she learned in
03:47Kalash Ketra from her guru, Krukmani Arundel.
03:50I was definitely not in my best form, I think. But I did it, for the love of it. And
03:58because my children wanted me to do it. So, you know how it is,
04:02you are in the hands of your children, and very forceful. And they said, you have to do it. So
04:09I'm grateful. I think I did it. I don't know how good it is.
04:12But also, Khansab said, yes, it is a chant, not a music, singing as such. It will be good. I
04:20was very nervous. I'm still very nervous how people are going to take it.
04:25I played Sarod, Aman, Ayaan, we all played Sarod to her voice. And there are another great singers, Pandit Krishnadas
04:35and Nina Rao, and many other scholars and Pandit.
04:40There is a similar album with His Holiness, Dalai Lama. It's called Meditation, where all three of us performed and
04:51collaborated with His Holiness. His life is committed to peace and harmony. And finally, all of us received Grammy Awards.
05:03So this is a historical moment that father and sons receiving the same award, Grammy Award together. And Aman and
05:14yet to receive any Indian awards. I hope every youngster who are in their 40s receive encouragement from our government.
05:26Aman and yet to receive a lot of love may not be awards, but the blessings and love of people,
05:34which is so important in our life. That's the greatest award.
05:40Yes.
05:46But Ustajji did the first record session of Ma'am, make you fall in love with her once again.
05:52Yes, you are right. I never knew.
05:56I am so embarrassed because I have done it, yes, but I don't know what you think about it.
06:02No, no, I am very happy. And because she is not dancing now, but she remains an artist of great...
06:14Well, an artist is always an artist. The art cannot die. It is within you and it will keep growing
06:21till you die. You know, that is the art form is such...
06:26It's like nature. Nature will be there always as long as you are alive and the tree will be always
06:32there as long as it is dead. Art form is like that, I think.
06:37And I don't know, Khan-Sahab will appreciate any way he will say anything good about me, but Janata kya
06:45kehte hai that is more important today for me.
06:48We are very grateful that God has given Aman Ayan in our life and we are most grateful to God
06:55that Subhu Lakshmi Barua, she is in our life.
06:59We can't do without her and we all depend on her as she is so stressed because she takes care
07:09of everything right from kitchen to the terrace.
07:14And I hope she has 100 years to live in the world.
07:17My God, Khan-Sahab is very, very, you know, generous with his compliments.
07:22We all love her and we all depend on her.
07:27No, no, that is not true.
07:31No, that's the encouragement that Khan-Sahab has done.
07:35You know, always everything is good. Aman Ayan.
07:38We are very lucky to have children like Aman and Ayan.
07:41They have really taken so much care and they still take care.
07:45We only hope that, you know, they are successful, loved by people in their own lives.
07:52We have many more disciples all over the world.
07:55They are living on music, they are successful and they are performing.
08:01So my next question to both of you is that, you know, the chance of unity, it's on chance of
08:06unity.
08:07Can music truly unite people or does it merely remind us that we were never as different as we imagined?
08:14You see, music has connected the world.
08:19Music is a precious gift of God.
08:21Music does not belong to any religion like flowers, air, water, fire, fragrance, colors.
08:29So, unfortunately, language creates barriers.
08:33It is my appeal to all the schools that they must begin the assembly with Sare Gama Padhani.
08:41These seven musical notes are connected with all the cells of your mind.
08:49And instead of imposing lots of language, lots of songs on the children, I think the school should begin with
08:59the Sare Gama Padhani.
09:01And another appeal to the schools and the parents of the child, that I hope every child becomes Rehemdil, kind,
09:14compassionate, and every child should respect all religions of the world.
09:20This is very important because there is no period or no subject in the school to tell the children.
09:28But I would like my children and all the children of the world, they must respect all the religions of
09:37the world.
09:38Now, what about you?
09:39Well, when you go to a concert, I'll give you a very simple example.
09:44I can't talk like Khan Sahib, but a very simple example I give.
09:49When people go to a music concert, there are hundreds of people sitting together.
09:54Nobody talks about religion.
09:56Nobody talks about anything.
09:58It is the music who speaks by itself.
10:01Nobody is asking that.
10:02That means music is above all and our cultural heritage is so strong and which binds people together.
10:11The language, then the religion, caste, creed, they take a secondary place altogether.
10:18I would say that it is best, great, not best, it is great to be a good human being first
10:24and rest will follow.
10:27We need more compassionate people in the world and we need kind people.
10:34And I hope every youngster achieve his goal of life.
10:42I wish all the youngsters of the world to achieve their manzil, their goal of life.
10:50Also, ma'am, you know, there's something vulnerable about putting your own voice into the world.
10:56And what part of yourself did you discover through this album or through this whole process?
11:03Well, I have yet to discover what I am.
11:05But because first time I'm coming with a vocal, this thing, I don't know how people will take it.
11:12That depends upon that.
11:13I did my job because for the children mainly, but then they have given a very formal form to the
11:21whole, the chant record, the album.
11:26And it all depends how people take it because I have done it with utmost sincerity and love for music
11:33and whatever I have learned.
11:35It reminded me of my school days, how I learned coming from Assam, being an Assamese, from a family who
11:43loved music, culture, everything.
11:45And that was just an extension when I went to Kalakshetra.
11:49So I think it's a complete life and then marrying Amjad Ali Khan, having the children.
11:55Now my grandchildren are the eighth generation of an unbroken chain of Sarut playing.
12:00And I only pray to God that they continue and get the love and the blessings of people.
12:05Our life is committed to peace and harmony and seeing the world intolerant.
12:18We feel very sad to hear Russia, Ukraine, America and Iran.
12:27So we are all the time praying for the world peace.
12:30I hope our younger generation, they always have peace and harmony in their life.
12:37They never see war or any conflict in the world.
12:42Our humble prayers, as they say it, through this chant for the world peace will have, if not wave, definitely
12:52some ripple in lives of people.
12:55Thank you so much.
12:57Sir, I have a question.
13:00Sorry.
13:01Ustajji, how has your relationship with the Sarut changed as you have grown older?
13:07Is there something you understand about the instrument now, which the younger Amjad Ali Khan did not know about or
13:15did not understand?
13:19I have my younger day Sarut in my museum in Gualia, where I was born.
13:27Our ancestral home has been converted into a museum.
13:30It's called Sarut Ghar.
13:31All the instruments of my forefathers and other great masters of India.
13:36It's all there.
13:40So according to…
13:40Kindly donated.
13:41A lot of great musicians have donated their instruments.
13:45Great musicians, they have donated their instruments.
13:47And every Sarut player, they gave their best.
13:54And every Sarut player has a different desire, different kind of sound.
14:00My father's Sarut was a different sound.
14:04And Anaman sounds different.
14:08Ayan sounds different.
14:09And my sound, finally, by the grace of God, I…
14:15I don't play Sarut.
14:16I sing through my instrument.
14:19The singing is most important to bring out…
14:39So every Sarut player has a different mission, every Sarut player.
14:44And I am very happy that today there are about 500 Sarut players all over the world.
14:49So the future of Sarut is very bright in every field, whether sitar, tabla, gana, dance.
14:58There are amazing youngsters.
15:00I am so proud of them.
15:01What are your plans?
15:06Well, the best way, I think, to celebrate a birthday through…
15:11Oh, sorry.
15:12The best way to celebrate a birthday, I think, nothing better than music.
15:17And fortunately, tomorrow, there is a function where Aman and Ayan will be performing.
15:22And that will be a tribute to their father also.
15:25Usually, we do have a lot of things happening, students coming in.
15:29But this year, we thought we'll go a little slow.
15:32Yeah.
15:33You see, the birthday is more enjoyable of our children.
15:41When you are 10 years old, 12 years old, the birthday has a lot of meaning.
15:47But at our age, I think we want to be quiet and be low.
15:54And only the family dinner is most important.
15:59That's what I always need.
16:01I like to be pampered by my children on my birthday.
16:05Khan Sahib is very, very holy type.
16:07It is not that.
16:08But I enjoy my children's company.
16:10The fast they make you around.
16:12It's lovely, I think.
16:14Yeah.
16:14Love of the family members.
16:15It's matter.
16:17Blessings of the people on my birthday means a lot.
16:24It's a very sad thing that has happened today.
16:26That is, Nana Ji passed away.
16:28And he's had this whole four decades long journey in cinema.
16:31I'm sure you must have crossed paths somewhere.
16:33So how would you pay your tribute if you have some memories?
16:36We are very sad to hear legendary Nana Patikal Ji's passing away.
16:43He was a great artist and we are all great admirers of his work.
16:48And I had the honor of meeting him only once.
16:52And I still remember.
16:54I have seen many of his films.
16:56I don't think anybody can replace him.
17:00He was a great actor.
17:02Whatever actor.
17:02It's a great loss of the film industry.
17:06He will always be remembered.
17:08Would you like to say something?
17:10Well, I have been a great admirer of his and I haven't met him.
17:14I'm not fortunate enough like you.
17:17But his acting capacity.
17:19I mean, I'm nobody to judge.
17:21But that style only he could do.
17:24Nana Patikar was Nana Patikar.
17:26That's all you've said.
17:27He will always live in our heart and mind.
17:31And through his films, he'll always be remembered.
17:48Thank you so much.
17:50Namaskar.
17:51So what we're seeing here.
17:51Well, you can do that.

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